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03:44 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "You cant rely on Google to preserve the Web or anything that happened on it." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/google-youtube-gulagtube-removes-incredibly-racist-and-transphobic-political-ad-from-illinois-state-rep-jeanne-ives/

03:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google YouTube (GulagTube) removes incredibly racist and transphobic political ad from Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives. BaronHK's Rants

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06:15 Techrights-sec2; TM seems to be having difficulties, the httpd log shows that it is up

06:15 Techrights-sec2; but there is almost no traffic which is strange, and I can't reach it via

06:15 Techrights-sec2; http from here

06:15 Techrights-sec2; I've tried restarting httpd there, twice, to be sure but there has been no change in the problem

06:15 Techrights-sec2; restarted mysqld and that worked

06:15 Techrights-sec2; yes it looks like it,

06:15 Techrights-sec2; tmux is unavailable there until the OS move

06:15 schestowitz-TR; restarting httpd

06:15 schestowitz-TR; I just restarted both and it sorked

06:15 schestowitz-TR; maybe we both tried that around the same time

06:17 Techrights-sec2; 220627 5:15:22 [ERROR] /usr/libexec/mysqld: Table './drupal/cache_block' is marked as crashed and should be repaired

06:17 Techrights-sec2; hmm now that log file is gone

06:17 Techrights-sec2; can you run it from there, it'd not be good to run it twice concurrently

06:17 schestowitz-TR; oh, well spooted

06:17 schestowitz-TR; so we should run the repair script

06:17 schestowitz-TR; yes, I will run it

06:37 Techrights-sec2; no I am not running the repair script

06:37 Techrights-sec2; what is the datestamp on the lockfile?

06:38 schestowitz-TR; seems like there was a masssive backup file

06:38 schestowitz-TR; confused by the db state

06:38 schestowitz-TR; I've removed that

06:38 schestowitz-TR; are you running the repair script?

06:38 schestowitz-TR; it says there is a lockfile

06:38 schestowitz-TR; maybe some old and stale lockfile

06:38 schestowitz-TR; I am not sure

06:38 schestowitz-TR; can you check?

06:38 schestowitz-TR; you can enter via the hv

06:38 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines-old

06:38 schestowitz-TR; the script is /home/boycottn/bin/ repair

06:40 Techrights-sec2; looking for the script ..

06:40 Techrights-sec2; I'm in via hv

06:40 Techrights-sec2; something is wrong/broken with 'less'

06:40 Techrights-sec2; checking

06:40 Techrights-sec2; I'll try running the script here, ok?

06:40 Techrights-sec2; something has become weird with flock

06:40 Techrights-sec2; I'll have to look into that later, for now running the script

06:40 Techrights-sec2; it is fixing / checking the tables

06:40 Techrights-sec2; it has finished running

06:40 Techrights-sec2; TM responds

06:40 Techrights-sec2; I'll have to look into the lockfile there, it may not run properly via HV

06:47 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I've just taken a dump

06:47 schestowitz-TR; and the size of the file seems

06:47 schestowitz-TR; and regarding taking a dump, i was afk for a similar reason

06:47 schestowitz-TR; health issue, will pass, cause not known

06:47 schestowitz-TR; anyway, the DB dump seems correct and the site is back

06:47 schestowitz-TR; thanks for the help

06:47 schestowitz-TR; you can see such sites cannot just run themselves

06:47 schestowitz-TR; editorial and sys admin alike

06:47 schestowitz-TR; I keep reminding myself this is why many old "news" sites perish

06:47 schestowitz-TR; there's not enough income for them to justify sys admin bills

07:20 Techrights-sec2; one of the better metaphors is that sites are like a garden

07:20 Techrights-sec2; needing constant minor maintenance or else things will rapidly spiral out

07:20 Techrights-sec2; of control

07:20 schestowitz-TR; I watched the difficult move Constant Gardener

07:20 schestowitz-TR; my mom watched it separately, also found it difficult

07:20 schestowitz-TR; rianne is literally a constany gardener

07:20 schestowitz-TR; sometimes more than once per week

07:20 schestowitz-TR; I cut the gorass yesterday

07:20 schestowitz-TR; but she carried on for another hour doing the more minor bits

07:20 schestowitz-TR; no idea why it takes her so long or what she does exactly

07:20 schestowitz-TR; my mom also

07:20 schestowitz-TR; Women treat gardens differently

07:20 schestowitz-TR; indoors, too

07:23 Techrights-sec2; "slow" news is unfortunately here to stay for the forseable future

07:24 schestowitz-TR; I've converted or exchanged slow news cycled into more sleep lately

07:24 schestowitz-TR; we should not take this for granted but do something, I think

07:24 schestowitz-TR; patent news was 90%+ disinfo

07:24 schestowitz-TR; and "open source" lost its meaning several years ago (openwashing BS)

07:24 schestowitz-TR; not even with "Linux" it's hard to find enough for 30-50 nodes per day in TM

07:25 Techrights-sec2; yes anything about sw patents and, for the most part, patents in general

07:25 Techrights-sec2; via Google is disinformation and lies; there appears to be no penatly for

07:25 Techrights-sec2; lying publicly and loudly for any of the lawyers involved

07:25 Techrights-sec2; LF and OIN are part of the problem there, too

07:26 schestowitz-TR; same companies, same people

07:26 schestowitz-TR; new front, another "brand"

07:26 schestowitz-TR; and bastian best saying dumb things like

07:26 schestowitz-TR; it's either "patents" or "open source"

07:26 schestowitz-TR; I don't need to bother expalining to him that he compares cars to cats

07:27 Techrights-sec2; yes it is the same group of companies and in some cases even the same people

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07:32 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I was upstairs assessing where to put my desk next when winter comes and I need to escape the cold area

07:32 schestowitz-TR; but rianne and I both aren't sure yet about work cycles

07:32 schestowitz-TR; we know we'll work though and it doesn't matter, except the setup of phones and arrangement of computers, acquarium

07:32 schestowitz-TR; the more important bit is, how to edit the site (topics, sources) in light of what (I personally consider to be) seems

07:32 schestowitz-TR; like a gradualy demise of the www

07:32 schestowitz-TR; technically is is still there, but the "content" is being thrown away (gulagtube may be next; sotrage costs... like

07:32 schestowitz-TR; google+ and joindiaspora... lots of "stale" content)

07:32 schestowitz-TR; new articles aren't produced as much, either

07:33 Techrights-sec2; there will be more information later, no need to worry much about that yet

07:33 Techrights-sec2; I would think

07:37 schestowitz-TR; even if we swallowed 5000 RSS feeds and filtered them for relevant material, there would still not be much

07:37 schestowitz-TR; that's why Google News too seems to be struggling

07:37 schestowitz-TR; GIGO issue, IMHO

07:37 schestowitz-TR; the algorithms are not adapting

07:37 schestowitz-TR; and if you go to front page (www) of news.google.com you will see it's like social control media

07:37 schestowitz-TR; it does not ask you what you want

07:37 schestowitz-TR; like twitter or gulagtube front page it's designed to provoke, it is curated

07:37 schestowitz-TR; twitter funnels all the "engegement" to few accounts this way

07:37 schestowitz-TR; and it give a false impression of size and importance

07:37 schestowitz-TR; with only select few topics most people will discuss there

07:37 schestowitz-TR; all the rest is "legacy"

07:38 schestowitz-TR; barely maintained, can barely add new sources and instead allowingplagiarism like bollyinsider to stay

07:38 schestowitz-TR; there for years

07:38 Techrights-sec2; what's really bad is when sites cull old articles and/or their comment sections

07:38 Techrights-sec2; provocation == engagement == clicks == farmable behavior

07:38 Techrights-sec2; there is a surprisingly large amount of automated plagiarism out there

07:40 schestowitz-TR; this was sometimes used as reason/excuse for not having RSS feeds

07:40 schestowitz-TR; they're perceoved as facilitators of easier copying of whole "content"

07:40 schestowitz-TR; LinuxToday removed all the old comments afaik

07:40 schestowitz-TR; with CMS changes

07:40 schestowitz-TR; so it was a very lossy conversion

07:40 schestowitz-TR; wayback machine may have those tens of thousands of comments

07:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe 100,000

07:40 schestowitz-TR; sometimes in techrights we quoted some

07:40 schestowitz-TR; for sure dead links now

07:40 schestowitz-TR; on issues like Novell, Mono etc.

07:40 schestowitz-TR; that was not even very long ago, maybe a decade

07:41 Techrights-sec2; not if one is selective about which RSS feeds to track

07:41 Techrights-sec2; yes many dead links even when pointing at sites which still exist

07:41 Techrights-sec2; it's like the sites go out of their way /not/ to use Apache2's redirection

07:41 Techrights-sec2; and URL rewriting capabilities

07:44 schestowitz-TR; managers do not know what it means or how the web works

07:44 schestowitz-TR; their metrics are not curation-oriented but business oriented

07:44 schestowitz-TR; many business sites flush things out every x years and start all over again

07:44 schestowitz-TR; and with unis taking their "business" people inhouse (I met one in an

07:44 schestowitz-TR; interview)

07:44 schestowitz-TR; we can expect that unis sites will mostly kill old "content" that

07:44 schestowitz-TR; cannot bve "monetised" like homepages of profs

07:44 schestowitz-TR; and instead have a more "professional" presentation

07:44 schestowitz-TR; to sell enrollments

07:44 Techrights-sec2; yes there too

07:44 Techrights-sec2; especially as their role in scholarly communication is eliminated or marginalized

07:49 schestowitz-TR; I have clear memories of things I saw that put me off academia

07:49 schestowitz-TR; a) seeing my project mentor sitting there memorising her slides before lecture

07:49 schestowitz-TR; b) piles of exams to mask

07:49 schestowitz-TR; 3) phd supervisor telling me postdocs are not to work part time but only full time with expectation of

07:49 schestowitz-TR; further work after 5pm (I'm told teachers in schools are expected the same for even lower pay)

07:49 schestowitz-TR; d) veryvery low view counts or readership/circulation of published paper

07:49 schestowitz-TR; e) arduous peer review process, months to publish a barely-read paper (see (D))

07:49 schestowitz-TR; f) expectation of you being a serf for IEEE and others, doing extnsive reviews

07:49 schestowitz-TR; of other people'e work so that they can sell books (not the authors, the parasites... who

07:49 schestowitz-TR; roward you by sending you a "dead tree" of your voice with a fictional "value" attached to it)

07:49 schestowitz-TR; instead of paying you for your time with REAL money

07:49 Techrights-sec2; books are generally not counted towards career advancement in academia, not even

07:49 Techrights-sec2; important ones and chapters are not even indexed in many catalogs

07:50 schestowitz-TR; books will barely be read or kept by people under 30 that I know

07:50 schestowitz-TR; they don't have time

07:50 schestowitz-TR; (not that they do better things with their time)

07:50 schestowitz-TR; they lost the ability to read or never gained that ability to begin with

07:51 Techrights-sec2; most under 40 cannot actually read long form

07:51 Techrights-sec2; they never learned the ability to actually read beyond short paragraphs for

07:53 schestowitz-TR; the gilf book I go through while shaving is split into 1000 paragraphs, numbered, with photos on every second page

07:53 schestowitz-TR; it's a format I never saw before

07:53 Techrights-sec2; strange format

07:55 schestowitz-TR; it was almost a giveaway at m&s

07:55 schestowitz-TR; down to (iirc) 1 pound instead of line 10+ times more

07:55 schestowitz-TR; we also got soime recipe books this way

07:55 schestowitz-TR; m&s discounts have terrible sucked the past 5 years or so

07:55 schestowitz-TR; not even worth checkinng

07:56 schestowitz-TR; but we saved thousands over the years by hoarding discounted items there, clothes, homeware etc.

08:05 schestowitz-TR; I am thinking

08:05 schestowitz-TR; a) we exhausted news sources for gnu/linux

08:05 schestowitz-TR; b) TM is just about as active as it can get withouyt straying to other topics

08:05 schestowitz-TR; c) suan used to do original articles like distro reviews

08:05 schestowitz-TR; one option might be doing original articles about gnu/linux and cross-post these in TR and TM

08:05 schestowitz-TR; but some people might oppose

08:05 schestowitz-TR; I attempted this briefly around 2014

08:05 schestowitz-TR; [[d) the news won't suddenly "wake up" again... web stagnation means it'll only languih away further. cadence]]

08:05 schestowitz-TR; the web is "done"... not it's Chrome Wide Something

08:05 schestowitz-TR; and moving further towards consolidation around "frameworks"

08:05 schestowitz-TR; with proprietary fonts and infinite scrolls

08:05 schestowitz-TR; yesterday in IRC I mentioned that zdnet is not all infinite scroll

08:06 Techrights-sec2; yes I was about to mention the possibility but those are a lot of effort

08:06 Techrights-sec2; the hard part is getting original material, not just accurately but in a

08:06 Techrights-sec2; timely manner,

08:06 Techrights-sec2; no the news is quiet for a reason, only the superficial reason is money

08:06 Techrights-sec2; the money is about control

08:07 schestowitz-TR; I think lack of funding is also due to lack of financial returns

08:07 schestowitz-TR; a miscalculation

08:07 schestowitz-TR; not PURE sabotage by the "venture capitalists"

08:09 Techrights-sec2; not just lack of financial returns but also the avoidance of inconvenient

08:09 Techrights-sec2; articles digging around on topics they'd rather leave undiscussed

08:11 schestowitz-TR; (and the causes aside, the net outcome is, news is going away and gone away... lexology and mondaq wants us

08:11 schestowitz-TR; to think copies of pages from law firm's web sites are substitutes for journalism)

08:11 schestowitz-TR; publications like newspapers used to be self-funding, mostly classifieds and fake articles, so

08:11 schestowitz-TR; the reliance on the state or VCs were not always there

08:12 Techrights-sec2; press releases and lies

08:15 schestowitz-TR; spamnil is trying that

08:15 schestowitz-TR; he gets money from LF, I think

08:15 schestowitz-TR; muktware become spam.io

08:15 schestowitz-TR; same site, different domain names, shuffling names around like the problem was the name alone

08:15 schestowitz-TR; muktware used toi get about 700 views per article

08:15 schestowitz-TR; now it's like 20 per 'article'

08:15 schestowitz-TR; no sane person goes there for news

08:15 schestowitz-TR; those 20 are maybe googlebot and baidu

08:15 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to think what to do next

08:15 schestowitz-TR; I have spare time now, both in weekdays and weekends

08:15 schestowitz-TR; due mostly to the lack of input from the Web AND Gemini

08:18 schestowitz-TR; I tried thinking what to write in C, I still have those skills, but writing c programs for a very simple thing is pointless

08:18 schestowitz-TR; and I cannot think of a progrsm worth investing in that does not exist already

08:19 schestowitz-TR; iirc, quiterss is c++

08:19 Techrights-sec2; scripting is more efficient in regards to the time put in versus the result

08:19 Techrights-sec2; C is very useful within specific domains, but you know that better than I

08:19 schestowitz-TR; last release was 2020

08:19 schestowitz-TR; GPL, IIRC

08:21 Techrights-sec2; scripting is more efficient in regards to the time put in versus the result

08:21 Techrights-sec2; C is very useful within specific domains, but you know that better than I

08:21 schestowitz-TR; with c I'd have to recompile for new distros, archs (e.g. raspi)

08:21 schestowitz-TR; like I said, by 2000 we probablt already had all vital programs as free software we can hack on

08:21 schestowitz-TR; by 2010 already a lot of options

08:21 schestowitz-TR; in 2022 you have like 20 gemini servers

08:21 schestowitz-TR; and they tell us there is "talent shortage"

08:24 schestowitz-TR; my fear re quiterss is that rss become the news nntp/newsgroups/usenet

08:24 schestowitz-TR; and thus many rss readers are like the next KNode

08:24 schestowitz-TR; not enough active users to justify further maintenance

08:24 schestowitz-TR; and as a new verion or qt comes it means further rewrites

08:24 schestowitz-TR; or removalk of past features as mean of shortcut so that the thing compiles and does

08:24 schestowitz-TR; not crash

08:24 schestowitz-TR; Lars left qt

08:24 schestowitz-TR; that's not a good sign

08:24 schestowitz-TR; and it doesn't seem like it's a big step up for him

08:24 schestowitz-TR; some tiny company in oslo I think

08:28 schestowitz-TR; some companies adapt and evolve, some do not

08:28 schestowitz-TR; but not all companies can rely on government (tax graft) bailouts

08:28 schestowitz-TR; or "subsidies" for some ulterior agenda

08:28 schestowitz-TR; a lot of people like kaniini spent/wasted years of their lives developing gfor irc

08:28 schestowitz-TR; and then for social control media (pleroma)

08:28 schestowitz-TR; those things will end up like diaspora

08:28 schestowitz-TR; a downwars head curve

08:28 schestowitz-TR; and a lawsuit from bkuhnhehim against Trump

08:28 schestowitz-TR; for press (marketing) coverage

08:28 schestowitz-TR; that does lead some developers to depression, like cmdrtaci/rob malda

08:28 schestowitz-TR; their work is "has been"

08:28 schestowitz-TR; like a retired footballer

08:32 Techrights-sec2; bailouts have been an ongoing problem, especially since they have been so

08:32 Techrights-sec2; heavily misused to prop up profits for otherwise unprofitable industries

08:32 Techrights-sec2; such as banking and microsoft

08:32 Techrights-sec2; I recall him, and his site got destroyed quickly after he sold

08:32 Techrights-sec2; the software is still running but the community is gone (on purpose)

08:32 Techrights-sec2; and the content replaced with astroturf and spam

08:35 schestowitz-TR; footballers are expected to retire around 35, already well pat their peak

08:35 schestowitz-TR; in 5 years assange went from exposing the CIA to having stroke in solitary

08:35 schestowitz-TR; PIA/Lee probably cannot pay back the debt, but I'm not in contact and cannot

08:35 schestowitz-TR; assess the situation

08:35 schestowitz-TR; this can have knock-on effect on the family (2 kids, iirc)

08:35 schestowitz-TR; kim schmitz lost almost everything, except his life

08:35 schestowitz-TR; and his twitter account (afaik)

08:35 schestowitz-TR; (he's pro-Trump)

08:35 schestowitz-TR; what you describe is the opposite of free market

08:35 schestowitz-TR; but nepotism-based market interferences by the government

08:35 schestowitz-TR; trying to impose failing things (Microsoft) and things that cause misery (mortgage pipeline)

08:35 schestowitz-TR; on us, at our own expense if necessary

08:35 schestowitz-TR; or telling a USian living in a tent with a mattrss that he or she needs to chip in

08:35 schestowitz-TR; for 1.3 trillion dollar per year to "support the tr.... overseas occupation bases"

08:35 schestowitz-TR; btw,m the report keeps misreporting pentagon/doid budget

08:35 schestowitz-TR; what congress votes on is just a little more than half the total sum

08:35 schestowitz-TR; funny how thge press has not mentioned "black budget" in the past 5 years or so

08:36 Techrights-sec2; yes that's accurate

08:36 Techrights-sec2; corporate welfare is the rule there

08:40 schestowitz-TR; thanks, got git commit, got daily links

08:40 schestowitz-TR; finishing my shift in 23 mins

08:40 schestowitz-TR; rianne helped as usual

08:40 schestowitz-TR; (fossforce dead for over a month now)

08:40 schestowitz-TR; oh, I did not know liam proven had his own blog

08:40 schestowitz-TR; I used his theregister rss feed

08:40 schestowitz-TR; now I have two feeds for him

08:40 schestowitz-TR; he has been around for many years, he's a good hire for the register

08:45 schestowitz-TR; hollywood does receive some subsidies, but I fail to recall the details of how that worked

08:45 schestowitz-TR; netflix is a dliverty system of the hegemony propaganda machine

08:45 schestowitz-TR; maybe they too can be "helped" by the taxpayers (read: more national debt)

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08:51 schestowitz-TR; "Microsoft's complicated dance with..."

08:51 schestowitz-TR; "Hitler's complicated dance with Jews"

08:51 schestowitz-TR; "Putin's complicated dance with Kiev"

08:51 schestowitz-TR; "China's complicated dance with Tibet..."

08:51 schestowitz-TR; and the list goes on

08:51 schestowitz-TR; for this one entry, F* SN

08:52 schestowitz-TR; hopefully those are rare

08:54 Techrights-sec2; hollywood also has handlers, especially regarding the portrayal of the US

08:54 Techrights-sec2; military

09:00 Techrights-sec2; Esperessif just announced a dual band board, that'll be the first embedded system afaik with 5GHz support

09:00 Techrights-sec2; SN is still probably salvageable but be sure that the microsofters have

09:00 Techrights-sec2; been working against it since the beginning

09:00 Techrights-sec2; don't give them an inch

09:00 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Compulabs new IoT gateway provides support for two processor models, the C1800Q and the C1800QM." Compulab should shun criminals from Microsoft. Bad neighbourhood. https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ | Source: Linux Gizmos

09:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/compulabs-new-iot-gateway-is-based-on-nxps-i-mx-8m-processor-and-runs-on-linux-ms-azure-iot-and-node-red/ )

09:01 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is trying to infiltrate from this angle too

09:01 schestowitz-TR; I mentioned other examples a few hours ago

09:01 schestowitz-TR; infiltration is their ownly chance at survival

09:09 Techrights-sec2; yes and their main tactic

09:09 Techrights-sec2; buying influence is done for small money

09:09 Techrights-sec2; and then you get cultist minions for free on occasion

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10:20 Techrights-sec2; probably have fixed the locking in the repair script

10:24 schestowitz-TR; thanks, just done gym

10:24 schestowitz-TR; lost about 2kg today

10:24 schestowitz-TR; another kind of DB dump

10:24 schestowitz-TR; not sure what caused it though, very strange, esp. given massive time gap between last meal

10:24 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I'll aim to get down to 90kg (from 95)

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I still don't know how to deal with low RSS feeds volume/yield

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I thought about it, tuxmachines should stay as it is

10:24 schestowitz-TR; but we cannot make articles of reevance pop up out of thin air

10:24 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I filters "assange" in those 32,000+ general feeds as it is indirectly relevant

10:25 schestowitz-TR; s/n ratio better than it was in gulag noise

10:25 Techrights-sec2; RSS is still a slog to get through though it helps to focus on different

10:25 Techrights-sec2; sections on different days

10:31 schestowitz-TR; just fyi: the opml feeds you sent, I never check them up to more than 2 days ago

10:31 schestowitz-TR; to avoid collusion

10:31 schestowitz-TR; so I'm always 2-3 days "behind"

10:31 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I "take turns" in TM to avoid posting dupes by mistake

10:31 schestowitz-TR; when quiterss crapped its own DB I lost about 5-10 rss feeds that are hard to find

10:31 schestowitz-TR; but iirc those were mostly for howtos

10:32 Techrights-sec2; frequent backups are needed with QuiteRSS, especially after adding hard-to-fond

10:32 Techrights-sec2; ^hard-to-find

10:32 Techrights-sec2; feeds; been there, done that

10:33 schestowitz-TR; *collision

10:33 schestowitz-TR; happened to rianne before

10:33 schestowitz-TR; it can happen after unclean exits

10:33 schestowitz-TR; for me it was the first time (this catastrophic)

10:35 Techrights-sec2; I've hardly scripted at all for a long time, I should try to gather motivation

10:35 Techrights-sec2; to try writing an RSS reader

10:35 Techrights-sec2; few such sites even have RSS feeds

10:35 Techrights-sec2; it's mostly individual bloggers

10:39 schestowitz-TR; I think we might be surprised by how few people use rss feeds of msm sites

10:39 schestowitz-TR; compared to high-profile bloggers like kottke

10:39 schestowitz-TR; what I fancy a LOT about reading from kate is that I'd see names like Justice Jackson

10:39 schestowitz-TR; like hundreds of times

10:39 schestowitz-TR; post about it

10:39 schestowitz-TR; but I still don't know what she looks like

10:39 schestowitz-TR; if I saw a photo, I'd not recognise her

10:39 schestowitz-TR; but it's like books, let the imagination work

10:39 schestowitz-TR; I found that photos can distract from substance of stories anyway

10:39 schestowitz-TR; to explain something or write about something you don't need to memorise faces

10:39 schestowitz-TR; as much as names and details (who they are, what they did)

10:39 schestowitz-TR; so this "worth a thousand words" thing might be waste of storage

10:39 schestowitz-TR; mental storage

10:39 schestowitz-TR; I literally read the general news in kate, and then post or "register" a link to that

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10:41 Techrights-sec2; if they are grouped, then the groups can be examined and that saves time

10:41 Techrights-sec2; then if it turns out that there are some with lots of posts

10:41 Techrights-sec2; they can be checked in more detail

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10:43 schestowitz-TR; the feeds are so sparse right now that it is insanly inefficient to go through them

10:43 schestowitz-TR; letting them build up makes clustering easier

10:43 schestowitz-TR; I'm taking a littlew timeout from them

10:43 schestowitz-TR; there used to be thousands of things to wade through and cherry-pick from

10:43 schestowitz-TR; now I double- and -triple- check the iterms just to be 100% sure I did not miss or skip anything

10:43 schestowitz-TR; one thing thunderbird always sorely lacked, even with all the extension, is good aggregation

10:44 schestowitz-TR; wherein you see all the items from all sources in one place

10:44 schestowitz-TR; pref. with some indicator like site favicon

10:44 schestowitz-TR; even rssowl had that when I ised that about 18 years ago

10:44 schestowitz-TR; it's a very basic feature

10:44 schestowitz-TR; it's also important when grouping related things and removing dupes

10:44 schestowitz-TR; thunderbird did have a dupe remover

10:44 schestowitz-TR; of course it's no longer compatible and they ruined the software as RSS reader

10:44 schestowitz-TR; now they go for "apps"

10:44 schestowitz-TR; which, as doctorow put it some days ago, is like software but a lot worse

10:44 Techrights-sec2; no. RSS is not part of e-mail. Thunderbird already has too many irrelevant

10:44 Techrights-sec2; and inappropriate gimmicks

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I cnanot even remember when exactly or why I mobed to thunderbird for my feeds

10:47 schestowitz-TR; rssowl was a java application and wasn't that great

10:47 schestowitz-TR; ben pasero stopped developing it at some point

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I tried feedlounge before google reader was launched to kill it

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I was a beta tester

10:47 schestowitz-TR; they could not compete with free (gulag)... and it did not last long

10:47 schestowitz-TR; gulag abandons things when they show no propsect of "monetisation"

10:47 schestowitz-TR; gulag reader threatened their other service, a cash cow associated with advertising

10:47 schestowitz-TR; gruber is still posting spam inside his RSS feed

10:47 schestowitz-TR; I thought people had dtopped trying that crap like over a decade ago

11:03 schestowitz-TR; I've just recovered from memory one rss feed I lost in the DB crash

11:03 schestowitz-TR; but it only posted one iterm (howto) this monthj

11:03 schestowitz-TR; after a busy month last month (>10)

11:03 schestowitz-TR; sometimes you catch and latch onto those site when they are on the high and become visible/promionent

11:03 schestowitz-TR; and then when you're there they lose momentum, slow down, even stop or go offline

11:03 schestowitz-TR; linuxhint has not posted much lately

11:03 schestowitz-TR; they used to be prolific

11:03 schestowitz-TR; they did some experiment with microsoft spam

11:03 schestowitz-TR; then with amazon catalogues disguised as "articles"

11:03 schestowitz-TR; tomshardware discussed in the main channel atm

11:03 schestowitz-TR; I've looked at it more closely

11:03 schestowitz-TR; without filter

11:03 schestowitz-TR; it's full of spam

11:03 schestowitz-TR; "best of"

11:03 schestowitz-TR; they do cover raspi a lot though

11:07 Techrights-sec2; that probably reduced their audience noticeably

11:07 Techrights-sec2; for the time being the cover raspberry pis a lot but that's a low hanging

11:07 Techrights-sec2; fruit, no pun intended; theyre still super popular despite being almost

11:07 Techrights-sec2; impossible to acquire any more

11:07 Techrights-sec2; however the lack of availability is gradually starting to take its toll and

11:07 Techrights-sec2; soon, if they are not able to get the supply chain moving, interest and

11:07 Techrights-sec2; momentum will dry up quite suddenly

11:07 Techrights-sec2; one of the reasons for the popularity was that not only were they cheap

11:07 Techrights-sec2; but you could get one very quickly and very easily

11:08 schestowitz-TR; builders of $40,000 automobil will be willing to pay more for the same components

11:08 schestowitz-TR; so there's that factor, too

11:08 schestowitz-TR; but you could no longer buy one with cash, at least not in the official cambridge store

11:08 schestowitz-TR; I doubt they sell them off the shelf at any of the "normal" stores here

11:08 schestowitz-TR; so anonymous buys would be second-hand market

11:09 Techrights-sec2; not just the lack of cash purchase but they are mostly out of stock /everywhere/

11:09 Techrights-sec2; regardless of payment method

11:09 Techrights-sec2; so scalpers are sniping the online shops with bots and then selling for

11:09 Techrights-sec2; most unreasonable prices and, as a side effect, damaging the reputation

11:09 Techrights-sec2; of the RPi

11:11 schestowitz-TR; it isa good thing rianne and I netted not one but two of them

11:11 schestowitz-TR; hers become a vpn and noc machine with 4 browser windows and a 28-inch scren

11:13 Techrights-sec2; the RPi4 can actually drive two displays quite well

11:13 Techrights-sec2; or have fewer computer running

11:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, we do not have more monitors than display ports

11:13 schestowitz-TR; we could drive at last 4 more monitors

11:13 schestowitz-TR; but tbh it's where the energy price/cost paid exceeds any real benefit

11:15 Techrights-sec2; more time for exercise then

11:16 schestowitz-TR; I gave rianne of of "mine" ("iza") becaause she could make more use of it than me

11:16 schestowitz-TR; it keeps changing depending on what needs doing

11:16 schestowitz-TR; like I said, I have a lot more time lately

11:16 schestowitz-TR; but no solace

11:16 schestowitz-TR; as the old routinely depend on the web working

11:16 schestowitz-TR; I even slept more... again

11:16 schestowitz-TR; cleaned the feeds, then lacked the motivation/drive to get back

11:16 schestowitz-TR; epo quiet so far today

11:19 schestowitz-TR; if you check the gulag maps (soundsfunny, that's a plus!), you'll see wen're not near busy roads

11:19 schestowitz-TR; the door is wide open next to me

11:19 schestowitz-TR; the hum is quiet and distant

11:19 schestowitz-TR; sometimes at night it's down to 0db

11:19 schestowitz-TR; which is sort of amazing

11:20 Techrights-sec2; excellent

11:26 schestowitz-TR; we need a strategy on android

11:26 schestowitz-TR; it's bigger than windows in some ways

11:26 schestowitz-TR; reminding people with the "spy in the pocket" does

11:26 schestowitz-TR; is not enough

11:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne still posts android leftovers because technically it is linus

11:26 schestowitz-TR; just like Microsoft "green" datacentres and "vaccine apps" are "linux"

11:27 Techrights-sec2; only in name, though

11:28 schestowitz-TR; fsf almost never criticises google

11:28 schestowitz-TR; and money has something to do with this on two levels

11:28 schestowitz-TR; 1) money gulag gives fsf (and fsfe etc.)

11:28 schestowitz-TR; 2) the false perception among other recipient of gulag grants that gulag in "your friend"

11:28 schestowitz-TR; the (2) part relates to the first. FSF would risk alienating some FS people who are receiving some slush funds

11:29 schestowitz-TR; from the "big g"

11:29 schestowitz-TR; so they keep mostly passive

11:29 schestowitz-TR; no matter if FS issues are both applicable and urgent

11:53 Techrights-sec2; money corrupts

11:53 Techrights-sec2; EFF has been gutted too

11:54 schestowitz-TR; they still pay a salary to keep doctorow going

11:54 schestowitz-TR; his wife works foir billbc iirc

11:54 schestowitz-TR; and they lay off a lot

11:54 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall if he has kids

11:54 schestowitz-TR; if he does, he barely mentions them

11:54 Techrights-sec2; between the two they were the two most prominent advocates for software freedom

11:54 Techrights-sec2; doctorow is important, it's too bad he is outnumbered there; he should

11:54 Techrights-sec2; instead be surrounded by peers, like he would have been under the old EFF

11:56 schestowitz-TR; in eff doctorow is "extremists"

11:56 schestowitz-TR; in fsf fms is "extremist"

11:56 schestowitz-TR; this is how political parties work

11:56 schestowitz-TR; drift to the centre in (d) and shift to nazism in (r)

11:56 schestowitz-TR; then they will say liz cheney is some sort of "leftist"

11:56 schestowitz-TR; cheney... left

11:56 schestowitz-TR; or "antifa"

11:56 schestowitz-TR; that's how they put it when facing a challenge

11:56 schestowitz-TR; s/center/far right/

11:56 Techrights-sec2; s/center/far right/

12:06 schestowitz-TR; I post a few links in TM and will have more batches, in between I still think about how to change strategies

12:06 schestowitz-TR; given that all 3 of us struggle to scrape much off of the rss pool

12:06 schestowitz-TR; despite the pool itself growing or the net cast further and wider

12:13 Techrights-sec2; the stances that RMS and Corey Doctorow take in their respective organizations

12:13 Techrights-sec2; are not extreme but as the institutions get corrupted and people replaced

12:13 Techrights-sec2; problems arrise to attack both. Look at old, pre-sale Wired articles. They'd

12:13 Techrights-sec2; be banned from most sites these days if they were published as new

12:14 schestowitz-TR; it is infeasible for me to write gnu/linux articles at a pace that can compensate for loss of material in TM

12:14 schestowitz-TR; and it would likely change what the site stands for

12:14 schestowitz-TR; so that's not a good option

12:14 schestowitz-TR; re rms and cd, they're different

12:14 schestowitz-TR; both talk about tech and politics

12:14 schestowitz-TR; but they have different styles

12:16 Techrights-sec2; yes different styles but remain close to the original goals, RMS of course

12:16 Techrights-sec2; becaue he /founded/ the movement

12:16 Techrights-sec2; Doctorow is quite articulate

12:19 schestowitz-TR; he is sympathetic to us

12:19 schestowitz-TR; both him and rms

12:19 schestowitz-TR; but we have another style and points we focus on

12:19 schestowitz-TR; doctorow mde a big name in the past decade for the area of drm, then monopolies

12:19 schestowitz-TR; like lessig did cc and then bribery in politics

12:19 schestowitz-TR; for us it's still patents

12:19 schestowitz-TR; rms is barely even writing anything except his "tweets" in his personal site

12:19 schestowitz-TR; fsf would, at best, link to a new article of his at gnu.org

12:19 schestowitz-TR; now they have anew dutch femme public face

12:19 schestowitz-TR; (who did not really say anything since becoming ED)

12:20 Techrights-sec2; yes of course

12:22 schestowitz-TR; rms and lt are mascots now

12:22 schestowitz-TR; they are allowed a space in the web site

12:22 schestowitz-TR; sometimes a littl slot in the events

12:22 schestowitz-TR; sometimes

12:22 schestowitz-TR; no media interview

12:22 Techrights-sec2; sadly so

12:22 schestowitz-TR; (when did RMS last do a media interview? wondered why???)

12:22 schestowitz-TR; rms is like a boy who, "i need to ask mam for permission"

12:22 schestowitz-TR; all I asked him, can we do a quick q and a

12:22 schestowitz-TR; then he says yes

12:22 schestowitz-TR; then silence

12:22 schestowitz-TR; then apology

12:23 schestowitz-TR; in religions they use "sin"

12:23 schestowitz-TR; not limited to christianity

12:23 schestowitz-TR; in orgs they use guilt

12:23 schestowitz-TR; they just need to cause embarassment

12:23 schestowitz-TR; and the shock effect leads to "ok, ok, i'll keep a lower profile from now on" (back seat)

12:23 Techrights-sec2; MIT really hurt him (intetionally) by thowing him under the bus to protect

12:23 Techrights-sec2; bill gates, it did not help that he had just been in Redmond for abuse

12:26 schestowitz-TR; we reprinted his article that explained his reasons

12:26 schestowitz-TR; it was not an idea that came from him but "sayta"

12:26 schestowitz-TR; maybe via some associate of rms at fsf

12:26 schestowitz-TR; anyway, at least they had no "dick scandal" about rms

12:26 schestowitz-TR; all they found was some ol' toe cheese and some dumb "tweet" inspired by a dutch gnu coder

12:26 schestowitz-TR; who had a sick mind

12:26 schestowitz-TR; kipman must have done something a lot worse

12:26 schestowitz-TR; but not as bad as billg

12:26 schestowitz-TR; thoough he diesn't have his kind of money and connections

12:28 schestowitz-TR; I keep thinking what in theory people can "dish" at me

12:28 schestowitz-TR; I think there's not much

12:28 schestowitz-TR; I have idea but can rebut on the spot firmly

12:28 schestowitz-TR; the "by association" smears are low blos

12:28 schestowitz-TR; like saying my dad's cousins are rich or something

12:28 schestowitz-TR; or using "mark fink" as a way of holding me accountable

12:28 schestowitz-TR; because I responded to an email he sent me once

12:28 schestowitz-TR; likely some pseudonyms

12:29 Techrights-sec2; Don't worry, they're not in the least concerned about sticking to facts

12:29 Techrights-sec2; or going to allow facts on the table

12:29 Techrights-sec2; Look at RMS, he was taken down by a cascade of lies each one more outrageous

12:29 Techrights-sec2; and more detached from reality than the previous

12:30 schestowitz-TR; they make up for it by "details"

12:30 schestowitz-TR; "ok, he's not x, but he stared at me... looked at me funny"

12:30 schestowitz-TR; rowan atkinson did a show about the cop who arrests people for the most "ludicrous reasons"

12:30 schestowitz-TR; getting link

12:30 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU

12:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - Invidious

12:35 Techrights-sec2; yes, seen that Atkinson speech

12:35 Techrights-sec2; Hmm. I heard that he was a philatelist and that his "wife" was a thespian

12:37 schestowitz-TR; thespian?

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I had to check wikipedia

12:41 schestowitz-TR; collecting many things from the past is trendy when one's past is a lot more glorious than present times

12:41 schestowitz-TR; or emulating long-forgotten behavious life afternoon tea, golf, horse-riding etc.

12:41 schestowitz-TR; that's why many still tolerate the "monarchy"

12:41 schestowitz-TR; a fake mnemonic for The Empire

12:41 schestowitz-TR; Mac Asay's article

12:41 schestowitz-TR; he allowed Microsoft to enter OSI

12:41 schestowitz-TR; Groklaw blasted humself for it

12:41 schestowitz-TR; he had aplso applied for a job at Microsoft

12:41 schestowitz-TR; SN had bad smell test or uncaring (about SN) elements

12:42 Techrights-sec2; they could do better about vetting the staff

12:42 Techrights-sec2; however the community is still mostly ok for the time being except for the

12:42 Techrights-sec2; shills paid to stir things up and impair discussions

12:45 schestowitz-TR; the latter group you mention puts off and distracts from (at best) the former

12:45 schestowitz-TR; until the former cease to exist

12:45 schestowitz-TR; and then it's the point of no turnaround

12:45 schestowitz-TR; in irc our "nazi" lad is now called "hollander" a

12:45 schestowitz-TR; and pretend to be dutch lady

12:45 schestowitz-TR; mjg also picked on this

12:45 schestowitz-TR; and makde fun, collectively, using conspiracy theorists about the dutch plane (or was it asian plane with dutch in it?)

12:45 schestowitz-TR; falling in ukraine

12:46 schestowitz-TR; microsoft's jo shield picked on some comment in techrights that said microsofters need the "gas chamber" and attributed this to the site

12:46 schestowitz-TR; saying that it represented the view of that

12:46 schestowitz-TR; and this articlee was then in linux today

12:46 schestowitz-TR; and I communicated with brian (now in redhat/icbm) that this was false

12:46 schestowitz-TR; shields worked on attacking both ubuntu and debian with mono back then

12:46 schestowitz-TR; of course he joined his true masters eventually

12:47 Techrights-sec2; unless people become aware of the shills and their methods and counteract them

12:47 Techrights-sec2; shields was / is a shill and like other M$ minions will cherry pick and

12:47 Techrights-sec2; misrepresent as much as they are able to

12:47 Techrights-sec2; shields hurt ubuntu very badly and the managment of Ubuntu / Canonical

12:47 Techrights-sec2; did not acknowledge his role in the harm

12:49 schestowitz-TR; as if today's canonical views Microsoft as a rival LOL

12:49 schestowitz-TR; see all the azur, WSL etc.s hilling

12:49 schestowitz-TR; the other day I saw a video asking if anonical is evil

12:49 schestowitz-TR; it was of awful quality

12:49 schestowitz-TR; I mentioned it in irc, in passing

12:49 schestowitz-TR; it was a new video

12:50 schestowitz-TR; many users voted with their feet and moved to another distro

12:50 schestowitz-TR; which is like freenode spilling out many users to opher networks

12:50 schestowitz-TR; sadly mostly 2 networks

12:50 schestowitz-TR; bohth controlled by ther same people who controlled freenode (original, not leenode)

12:50 Techrights-sec2; correctr, they actively encouraged subversion and infiltration by their

12:50 Techrights-sec2; nastiest (only) competitor

12:50 Techrights-sec2; most to Linux Mint but that is only an Ubuntu derivative not yet

12:50 Techrights-sec2; directly from Debian or Devuan

12:52 schestowitz-TR; I installed LMDE on this machine

12:52 schestowitz-TR; very fine distro

12:52 schestowitz-TR; they are increasingly treating it as near equal

12:52 schestowitz-TR; it is their lifeboat

12:52 schestowitz-TR; debian with nicer initial settings etc.

12:52 schestowitz-TR; don't know if debian can recover

12:52 schestowitz-TR; but then again it has not been so stellar for many years already

12:52 schestowitz-TR; but still generally works, based on experiences of rianne and mine...

12:52 schestowitz-TR; not perfect, but solid

12:58 schestowitz-TR; just discussed editorial sie of tuxmachines with rianne

12:58 schestowitz-TR; she keeps saying "we're not obliged as we don't take money from poeople"

12:58 schestowitz-TR; in refrerence to scenario where we cannot find "enough" links

12:58 schestowitz-TR; posting original content there can alienate some pople

12:58 schestowitz-TR; "I don't agree with that site" is not applicable when it just links to other sites

12:58 schestowitz-TR; TR can take the punches

13:02 schestowitz-TR; I've just manged to get myself to read the whole SN post

13:02 schestowitz-TR; that just makes SN look bad

13:02 schestowitz-TR; I don't know how it's managed, but I saw some IRC logs of disputes

13:02 schestowitz-TR; even if it's a reader's submission

13:02 schestowitz-TR; the editors call the final shot

13:02 schestowitz-TR; and this is in bad taste

13:04 Techrights-sec2; the editor who posted it is quite new and as mentioned, no idea about the

13:04 Techrights-sec2; vetting process if any

13:05 psydruid; a Dutch lady wouldn't call herself "Hollander" but rather "Nederlandse", in contrast with "Nederlander" for a Dutch male

13:05 schestowitz-TR; wwe should live in a world or world wide web where the extremists anf those running aflouf of a CoC

13:05 schestowitz-TR; are coporate shills like these

13:05 schestowitz-TR; not those who confront them over corporate shilling

13:06 schestowitz-TR; but money can set the narrative if we're not careful

13:06 schestowitz-TR; relections are not auctions

13:06 schestowitz-TR; *elections

13:06 schestowitz-TR; but in OSI they are

13:06 schestowitz-TR; we recently covered that in a long video

13:06 schestowitz-TR; and that's how people like Mac Asay, a fucking lawyer who cannot code, ended up inside OSI's door

13:06 schestowitz-TR; opening the door behind him to Ramji or Bill Hilf

13:06 schestowitz-TR; this is like irc freenode all over again, where staff likely means volunteer and thus there's hardly

13:06 schestowitz-TR; room for selection and ejectiuon

13:06 schestowitz-TR; any jane or john can set a foot

13:06 schestowitz-TR; with intention to gain some OTHER way

13:06 schestowitz-TR; like the censors of freenode

13:06 schestowitz-TR; who got to decide what views are permissible

13:06 schestowitz-TR; with activelow we just taunt him a little

13:06 schestowitz-TR; and I keep reminding him techpol exists for a reason

13:06 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: ^ context https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/06/26/0032216#1256491

13:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Microsoft's Complicated Dance With Open Source - SoylentNews

13:06 psydruid; Holland is just these two provinces in the west where Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague lie

13:06 schestowitz-TR; yes, I read about the differences a few years ago

13:06 schestowitz-TR; because in some languages it's just "holland"

13:08 psydruid; Historically they were the important parts when it comes to trade in the East India Company

13:08 schestowitz-TR; and slaves?

13:09 psydruid; that too of course

13:11 schestowitz-TR; a dutch red hat employee once told me the dutch were "market leaders" in slavery

13:13 psydruid; they must have done really well for someone like me having indentured labourers as ancestors to end up first in South America and then here in Europe

13:15 schestowitz-TR; they have come to grips with reality

13:15 schestowitz-TR; they are not mentally superior

13:16 schestowitz-TR; and not financially advantaged due to "superior genetics"

13:16 schestowitz-TR; moments ago I linked in tuxmachines to new about okular adding moe features

13:16 schestowitz-TR; developed by an indian coder obviously

13:17 schestowitz-TR; the wage disparity is still an issue

13:17 schestowitz-TR; the racists don't like to talk about it

13:17 schestowitz-TR; they are used to riding the surplus of other people's productive work

13:19 Techrights-sec2; best to try to keep him and DFC reined in

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13:20 schestowitz-TR; yes, the other channels helped in that regard, the s/n ratio in #techrights is important

13:20 schestowitz-TR; as this is how many choose to see the site when they dig for dirt

13:20 schestowitz-TR; it was done to wikileaks

13:20 schestowitz-TR; several times over the yeards

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13:33 Techrights-sec2; best to try to keep him and DFC reined in

13:33 Techrights-sec2; yes a separate section for Gemini + Gopher might be good, or maybe just

13:33 Techrights-sec2; Gemini only

13:33 schestowitz-TR; rather weird thought:

13:33 schestowitz-TR; should we make a new top-level section in Daily Links for Gemini and Gopher?

13:33 schestowitz-TR; so that there is no cross-breeding?

13:33 schestowitz-TR; I find more and more such links over time

13:33 schestowitz-TR; for some people it's hard to understandd what it is

13:33 schestowitz-TR; so on top of a new (fourth) top level block we can add a link explainign what it is and how to access the links

13:34 Techrights-sec2; yes a separate section for Gemini + Gopher might be good, or maybe just

13:34 Techrights-sec2; Gemini only

13:38 schestowitz-TR; the only thing worse than leaving PARCELS in the garbage is making the service so garbage that it

13:38 schestowitz-TR; does not even deliver

13:38 schestowitz-TR; it only collects from senders

13:38 schestowitz-TR; maybe then shuffles around the iterm between 'deliverty' warehouses

13:38 schestowitz-TR; that no longer deliver

13:38 schestowitz-TR; a) go buy at store; if you don't like it, return and get money back at the spot, given anonymous receipt

13:38 schestowitz-TR; b) go pay for Internet connection (expensive in some places), buy things you cannot see

13:38 schestowitz-TR; c) get items in the garbage can

13:38 schestowitz-TR; d) pay for things online (b), but you need to collect like in (a) without any of the benefits

13:38 schestowitz-TR; 1) anonymity

13:38 schestowitz-TR; 2) retruns

13:38 schestowitz-TR; you are now at ->>>>> d

13:38 schestowitz-TR; soon we'll get some new covid numbers

13:38 schestowitz-TR; I'll work on making a new gemini section in the template in git

14:14 schestowitz-TR; I've just pushed changes to template in git

14:14 schestowitz-TR; as it says in the commit log, maybe I got some minor thing wrong, like validation, so might have another commit soon

15:34 schestowitz-TR; i'm going to record re epo shortly

15:34 Techrights-sec2; checking

15:34 Techrights-sec2; regarding that draft "meme", you might link to the TR survey done a few years

15:34 Techrights-sec2; ago that demostrated the bloat in the WWW

15:36 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall how to find it, can you?

15:36 Techrights-sec2; it's there somewhere was it 2019 or 2020?

15:36 Techrights-sec2; there were scripts and all

15:37 schestowitz-TR; i cannot recall that post, that's why I'm asking

15:37 schestowitz-TR; I know we did a count of diversity of sources we link to and graph

15:38 Techrights-sec2; sometime in 2019, towards the tail end of the year IIRC

15:38 Techrights-sec2; there is no search function in WP

15:45 schestowitz-TR; published

17:05 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Todays COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/27/covid-19-surge-almost-july/

17:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Todays COVID-19 Numbers in England: Deaths Up, Hospitalisations Up Sharly, New Cases at Over 100,000 Per Week

17:20 Techrights-sec2; s/llmit/limit/

17:20 schestowitz-TR; thanks, amending second (final) read now

17:20 schestowitz-TR; notice the criminalityu

17:20 schestowitz-TR; the banality of crime

17:23 Techrights-sec2; the link from "as usual" could be moved forward under "Campinos is basically bribing the voters with jobs" instead, since the latter is already bold and

17:23 Techrights-sec2; is semantically what the URL leads to it would be a more appropriate anchor

17:28 schestowitz-TR; sure, anchor text gets that associated accordingly in "search" ngixssssss ;-)

17:28 schestowitz-TR; wait, I cannot before href and bold are not compatible

17:28 schestowitz-TR; oh, wait , there is a trick

17:28 Techrights-sec2; href is a kind of bold, I would say

17:35 schestowitz-TR; sure, anchor text gets that associated accordingly in "search" ngixssssss ;-)

17:35 schestowitz-TR; wait, I cannot before href and bold are not compatible

17:35 schestowitz-TR; oh, wait , there is a trick

17:35 schestowitz-TR; tonight I will publish the first Daily Links with gemini section

17:35 schestowitz-TR; I did some testing of the parsing, I hope it'll work consistently

17:35 schestowitz-TR; I also did a quick blog post about this

17:35 schestowitz-TR; gemini is not going away

17:35 schestowitz-TR; it needs more cross-capsule linking

17:37 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "It has now been ten days since I first showed symptoms of COVID-19, and I've been cleared by a doctor to end my quarantine." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202206/20220627-2022-week-24-25-thoughts-and-photos.gmi

17:38 schestowitz-TR; sad that I trust these anecdotes more than I trust gates-bribes BBC and Guardian

17:38 schestowitz-TR; but that's where we are

17:42 schestowitz-TR; rianne is out looking for food with reasonable price

17:42 schestowitz-TR; when i first heard "independent networking" I though communutes that sell frut and veg and barten

17:42 schestowitz-TR; barter privately with one another

17:42 schestowitz-TR; those too get slapped with stereotypes

17:42 schestowitz-TR; because they work "outside" "the economy"

17:42 schestowitz-TR; tax is not enough to demonise them

17:46 schestowitz-TR; They call it "dark Web" while at the same time telling us "blacklist" is offensive and sounds racist.

17:46 schestowitz-TR; Corporate media and billionaires: only us can used terms with racist and negative connotation. Also: we buy all the major media/sites, so the Web won't talk about this double standard...

17:46 schestowitz-TR; Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166543

17:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Dilution and Misuse of the "Linux" Brand | Tux Machines

18:17 schestowitz-TR; activelow back with a second nym for today

18:17 schestowitz-TR; troll-like behaviour

18:17 schestowitz-TR; he does not even ban-evade

18:17 schestowitz-TR; but many people ignore him

18:17 schestowitz-TR; some might even /mute him

18:17 schestowitz-TR; I know 'dfc' is muted by some

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