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beginning of new day, December 26

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1 AM, December 26

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3 AM, December 26

03:31 schestowitz-TR; today is backup and maintenance day

03:31 schestowitz-TR; will be busy the best 2 horsm long list if annual tasks

03:31 techrightssec2; ack

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03:56 techrightssec2; So far main.php is the only file I've noticed missing from the static archive

03:56 techrightssec2; of "gallery" for tm-new. Are there others that you can spot from a quick look?

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03:58 schestowitz-TR; i will take a look ina bit

03:58 schestowitz-TR; trying not to multitask atm

03:58 schestowitz-TR; just noticed irc-archives going to exceed 10k fiels today

03:59 schestowitz-TR; these started around 2019


4 AM, December 26

04:51 schestowitz-TR; ok, done tm annual tasks, took a lot longer than usual

04:51 schestowitz-TR; as I forgot some things

04:51 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I asked rianne if she still remembers how we added stories to drupal

04:51 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I will make backups after those changes

04:51 schestowitz-TR; where do I test the static gallery as a visitor?

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5 AM, December 26

05:03 schestowitz-TR; When 'Linux'Hint covers Git it ASSUMES you use MICROSOFT, WINDOWS, and GITHUB (Microsoft! Proprietary!) https://linuxhint.com/git-shallow-clone-and-clone-depth/

↺ https://linuxhint.com/git-shallow-clone-and-clone-depth/

05:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxhint.com | Git Shallow Clone and Clone Depth

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05:13 techrightssec2; https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

05:13 techrightssec2; Remember about 20 years ago when insurance companies were charging less if

05:13 techrightssec2; sites had no M$ Windows around? Whatever happened to that? It seems more

05:13 techrightssec2; relevant than ever now with US banks alone processing over a billion USD in

05:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | TuxGallery

05:13 techrightssec2; ransomware payments, pey year.

05:15 schestowitz-TR; testing static gallery for edge cases

05:15 schestowitz-TR; (remember for drupal I have some scraping script, but let's do one thing at a time...)

05:15 schestowitz-TR; biab trying to find ways to 'fail' the clone

05:18 schestowitz-TR; if I try to see full sized screenshot, it puts upside down (like spanish) question mark

05:18 schestowitz-TR; and does not (atm) present the image

05:18 schestowitz-TR; I think old reviews of distros link to images this way

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05:23 schestowitz-TR; some other navigation links give 404, with the upside-down question marek

05:23 schestowitz-TR; not moaning ;-) just trying to supply feedback

05:23 schestowitz-TR; btw (ramble warning)

05:23 schestowitz-TR; today I went through a lot of old TM, realising that it still gets many views, esp. ceretain pages

05:23 schestowitz-TR; it does contain a ton of material from over the years, even where originals ceased to exist

05:23 schestowitz-TR; the new site I checked too, seems like about 60k requests per day, and that's just for stuff published

05:24 schestowitz-TR; since late summer

05:24 schestowitz-TR; rankings in SEs matter because few people bother with anything else

05:24 schestowitz-TR; partly due to UIs gravitating in that direction

05:24 schestowitz-TR; inc. GoogleFirefox, where Mozilla assume you search google when you enter some work somewhere

05:24 schestowitz-TR; more so android

05:24 schestowitz-TR; zonker said he was seeing a rebound for rss

05:24 schestowitz-TR; or foreseeing that due to twitter's collapse

05:24 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure about that, but really, for producticity's sake, people need to change habits

05:24 schestowitz-TR; less search engines, more directories, more rss, less "phones"

05:42 schestowitz-TR; So Far This Christmas More COVID-19 Patients Hospitalised Than Last Christmas https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/26/covid-19-this-christmas/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/26/covid-19-this-christmas/

05:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive So Far This Christmas More COVID-19 Patients Hospitalised Than Last Christmas

05:43 schestowitz-TR; "mild" hospital visits


6 AM, December 26

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06:43 techrightssec2; The radical move away from usability and efficiency and into 'engagement'

06:43 techrightssec2; has severe repercussions for productivity directly and indirectly. The

06:43 techrightssec2; direct effects are obvious but the indirect effects are via the damage it does

06:43 techrightssec2; to mental health and the usual side effects of psychological addiction.

06:47 schestowitz-TR; information overload can be worse than addiciton

06:47 schestowitz-TR; and worse is misinformation ovrload

06:48 schestowitz-TR; which turns healthy minds into dangerous cranks


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8 AM, December 26

08:57 schestowitz-TR; someone asked rms about gemini this month

08:57 schestowitz-TR; rms responds he didn't hear about gemini

08:57 schestowitz-TR; but we told him about it 12 months ago

08:57 schestowitz-TR; see latest post

08:57 techrightssec2; cts of psychological addiction.

08:57 techrightssec2; checking

08:57 techrightssec2; He said, "I don't remember if I ever heard of it before, sorry."

08:57 techrightssec2; It must be really off his radar then

08:58 schestowitz-TR; he once said java instead of javascript but quickly corrected himse

08:58 schestowitz-TR; his mind still works well

08:58 schestowitz-TR; but I am sureprised he forgot about gemini


9 AM, December 26

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10 AM, December 26

10:00 techrightssec2; If it's not in his area of interest at all or he hasn't concluded that it is

10:00 techrightssec2; important then he is unlikely to remember it. Part of the problem is that

10:00 techrightssec2; it is very low key and might not even have packaged clients for the distro

10:00 techrightssec2; he is on.

10:00 techrightssec2; Perhaps he has dismissed it. He was certainly negative about the text-only

10:00 techrightssec2; aspect.

10:00 techrightssec2; Any comment on the static archive of the gallery?

10:00 schestowitz-TR; sorry, back from exercise and shower

10:00 schestowitz-TR; just emailed rms about gemini

10:00 schestowitz-TR; one of our computers is not in a good state, but not important machine

10:00 schestowitz-TR; so additonal task

10:00 schestowitz-TR; I send feedback on static gallery earlier on, did you get it?

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10:05 schestowitz-TR; not sure how to interpret "fully cahrge" but "1%"

10:05 schestowitz-TR; not sure if the usb hamalayan salt lamp damaged something in power management after a month's use

10:05 schestowitz-TR; or maybe something else

10:05 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it shuts off after a minute

10:05 schestowitz-TR; sometimes 6 hours

10:05 schestowitz-TR; very weird to explain

10:05 schestowitz-TR; ----------------------

10:20 techrightssec2; What about the USB George Foreman Grill?

10:22 schestowitz-TR; i don't get the reference

10:22 schestowitz-TR; this is a lamp that changes colours and it built into himalayan salt

10:22 schestowitz-TR; we got a great price on it at a local shop with nepal connections

10:22 schestowitz-TR; but nothing suggests that this was the cause of issus

10:22 schestowitz-TR; though yesterday the machine started making some whirling noise

10:22 schestowitz-TR; they seem to be gone now

10:52 schestowitz-TR; many extensive flocks of gulls around our house lately

10:52 schestowitz-TR; more than in recent years

10:52 schestowitz-TR; other birds hate them, they can be vicious

10:52 schestowitz-TR; but the play is, throw it in such a way they can catch the food in the air


11 AM, December 26

11:03 techrightssec2; ack

11:05 schestowitz-TR; d in the air

11:05 schestowitz-TR; i nearly linked to tomaz the msft shill

11:05 schestowitz-TR; it was in my draft

11:05 schestowitz-TR; but then you spottef it was azure shilling disguised as r and python

11:05 schestowitz-TR; gemini also has some microsoft shills in it, one notable person in poland

11:05 schestowitz-TR; sometimes you need to read deep to understand what they shill

11:05 schestowitz-TR; it's no the langs

11:05 schestowitz-TR; or sokme software

11:05 schestowitz-TR; but some proprietary microsoft crap

11:05 schestowitz-TR; like linuxhint covering git (windows, ms, github ASSUMED)

11:06 techrightssec2; ack

11:06 techrightssec2; Yes, they make an effort to hide these days, knowing how unpopulare m$ really is

11:06 techrightssec2; They've really been working to undermine both Python and R, especially the

11:06 techrightssec2; latter.

11:07 schestowitz-TR; they will get their way when people confuse the brands

11:07 schestowitz-TR; linux=wsl

11:07 schestowitz-TR; python=azure

11:07 schestowitz-TR; etc.

11:07 schestowitz-TR; and cannot distinguish

11:07 schestowitz-TR; git is just github

11:07 schestowitz-TR; to the average person

11:08 techrightssec2; Confusion has been sown by having the R Foundation and the R Consortium, one

11:08 techrightssec2; of which is M$ and only about subverting R while the other is actually about

11:08 techrightssec2; advancing R

11:08 techrightssec2; Remember the "three guys in a garage" against ODF? Similar approach.

11:10 schestowitz-TR; marbux, gary and sam were not in fact against odf

11:10 schestowitz-TR; icbm accused them of things

11:10 schestowitz-TR; it was icbm that sold us out

11:10 schestowitz-TR; back door deal with msft

11:10 schestowitz-TR; for ooxml

11:10 schestowitz-TR; like durusau (patrick)

11:10 schestowitz-TR; I spoke to the "garage" people, they all vanished after all that

11:17 schestowitz-TR; s/back door/back room/

11:17 schestowitz-TR; buth both are ironically fitting

11:17 schestowitz-TR; i remember my conversations esp. with marbux and gary

11:17 schestowitz-TR; icbm spread some fud at some point

11:17 schestowitz-TR; causing confusion

11:17 schestowitz-TR; and doubt

11:17 schestowitz-TR; about gary and olivian his wife

11:17 schestowitz-TR; ad hominem

11:17 schestowitz-TR; they nearly got sued (marbux was going to)

11:18 schestowitz-TR; we had an irc channel

11:18 schestowitz-TR; and pj stepped in after I had shown what went on there

11:18 schestowitz-TR; (freenode)

11:19 techrightssec2; OOXML does not really exist in practice and even paper it is severely

11:19 techrightssec2; underdocumented and substantially incomplete. Yet there will still be liars

11:19 techrightssec2; popping up from time to time asserting that M$ uses it, which it doesn't

11:19 techrightssec2; Yes, the backdoor deal by IBM was a really bad move. Also something happened

11:19 techrightssec2; with Apple as it decied to side with M$ against ODF, I presume that the

11:19 techrightssec2; stance against ODF was a contractual requirement for some aspect of DOCX support

11:19 techrightssec2; or similar.

11:19 techrightssec2; http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/george_foreman_usb_igrill

↺ http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/george_foreman_usb_igrill

11:19 techrightssec2; http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/himalaya_salt_usb_lamp ??

↺ http://hoaxes.org/af_database/permalink/himalaya_salt_usb_lamp

11:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hoaxes.org | George Foreman USB iGrill (April Fool, 2003)

11:19 techrightssec2; marbux sowed a lot of strife within the ODF groups, apparently intentionally

11:20 techrightssec2; so it looked at the time more like he was really out to impair ODF especially

11:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hoaxes.org | Return of the Dodo (April Fool, 2002)

11:20 techrightssec2; with his blathing various M$ talking points continuously.

11:20 techrightssec2; s/blathing/blathering/

11:20 techrightssec2; His attacks generally targeted the most productive group members so I have to

11:20 techrightssec2; say that it really looks like he was against the success of ODF. Whether that

11:20 techrightssec2; was due to some ties to m$, I do not know. However, the damage he was doing was

11:20 techrightssec2; apparent to all.

11:20 schestowitz-TR; [11:20] <techrightssec2> was due to some ties to m$, I do not know. However, the damage he was doing wa

11:20 schestowitz-TR; did the conniving start after 2008?

11:21 schestowitz-TR; pj trusted marbux enough to put him in charge of News Picjs

11:21 schestowitz-TR; as a right-hand man of sorts

11:21 schestowitz-TR; so I used to mail him links every day

11:21 schestowitz-TR; did the conniving start after 2008?

11:23 techrightssec2; Interesting

11:23 techrightssec2; Probably, he was not bad at first but I can no longer remember the precise

11:23 techrightssec2; time line of events. There were also strange national network outages here

11:23 techrightssec2; and there in time with the ISO scandals. It was like someone was pulling the

11:23 techrightssec2; plug on net blocks where there was a high density of ODF material, such as

11:23 techrightssec2; Groklaw

11:25 schestowitz-TR; TR will publish articles about ISO next month

11:25 schestowitz-TR; It looks like "It's FOSS" has just been cracked and hijacked.

11:27 techrightssec2; Excellent. Unfortunately there were shocking scandals in each of the national

11:27 techrightssec2; standars bodies. Each country had a different kind of scandal, which sadly

11:27 techrightssec2; did not make national news anywhere. IIRC all the members of the Norwegian

11:27 techrightssec2; standards body quit in protest and the only result was getting replaced buy

11:27 techrightssec2; ^by

11:27 techrightssec2; shills and microsofters.

11:27 techrightssec2; checking

11:27 techrightssec2; Still seems ok

11:27 techrightssec2; Though the last article visible is from the 23rd.

11:28 schestowitz-TR; tehir rss feed was abused and links to some unrelated blogspam

11:28 schestowitz-TR; maybe they revert back to a backup

11:35 techrightssec2; I did not check the RSS, just the main page

11:36 schestowitz-TR; even if they got cracked and I can prove it, I'd rather not pick on them

11:36 schestowitz-TR; I did this to opensuse some eyars ago

11:36 schestowitz-TR; and it became a scandal for them

11:36 schestowitz-TR; which they then belittles

11:36 schestowitz-TR; *led

11:36 schestowitz-TR; spoke to me in irc even

11:36 techrightssec2; "when will he consider issues with operating systems that are not licensing issues?"

11:36 techrightssec2; Subverting the spirit of the license as has been done with systemd should

11:36 techrightssec2; still be covered by the FSF though it is years late to the game on that

11:36 techrightssec2; particular example.

11:38 techrightssec2; I did not check the RSS, just the main page

11:38 techrightssec2; ack

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noon, December 26

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> Hi,

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> I've just reposted your Q&A at:

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/

http://techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/26/emacsconf-2022-q-and-a/

12:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Uploaded a Week Ago: Richard Stallman Responds to Questions at EmacsConf 2022 | Techrights

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] [Notice] -TechBytesBot to #techbytes- techrights.org | Uploaded a Week Ago: Richard Stallman Responds to

12:00 schestowitz-TR; Questions at EmacsConf 2022 | Techrights

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> The last question you were asked concerned Gemini.

12:00 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> 12 months ago we suggested that FSF and GNU could adopt Gemini. You said you would consider

12:01 schestowitz-TR; it.

12:01 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> In the Q&A you said you hadn't heard of it.

12:01 schestowitz-TR; [09:54] <schestowitz> Can I relay to you some information about it?

12:01 schestowitz-TR; [09:55] <schestowitz> Images are possible in Gemini, they're just not in the official spec.

12:01 techrightssec2; ack

12:04 schestowitz-TR; it's boxing day and I get overloaded with tasks already

12:04 schestowitz-TR; and drowned

12:04 schestowitz-TR; possibly part of that is the troublesome machine

12:04 schestowitz-TR; but anyway I caught up

12:04 schestowitz-TR; albeit massive overhead, working badkward to figure out what I forgot

12:04 schestowitz-TR; or what caused a negative emotional reaction (I think the Microsoft shills)

12:04 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I wrote down the tasks for the rest of the day

12:04 schestowitz-TR; I think I missed nothing, except time

12:04 schestowitz-TR; the bad PC "iza" is still a bit of an enigma

12:04 schestowitz-TR; we already confined its movement due to very sensitive PSU

12:04 schestowitz-TR; riane mistook me asking questions about what led to issue for me "blaming" her

12:04 schestowitz-TR; when in fact I try to study cause and effect, the correlation can teach us what not to do

12:04 techrightssec2; ack

12:07 schestowitz-TR; a couple of years ago I noticed that I get a similar reaction to

12:07 schestowitz-TR; a) forgetting what I wanted to do and

12:07 schestowitz-TR; b) abnoxious news or trolls, usually but not always microsoft

12:07 schestowitz-TR; the latter means there's nothing to be done, just move on

12:07 schestowitz-TR; but if you mistake a and b, then you might chasing in vain some "Forgotten task"

12:07 schestowitz-TR; when it fact it's a negative reaction

12:07 schestowitz-TR; I will have Daily Links ready soon

12:07 schestowitz-TR; no "tomaz"

12:47 schestowitz-TR; "I could not even have guessed at the level of wealth I see when that Times letter was published during the early epoch of Reaganism." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/26/a-brave-new-world/

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/12/26/a-brave-new-world/

12:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A Brave New World - CounterPunch.org


1 PM, December 26

13:08 schestowitz-TR; there seems to be a healthy feedback loop between fsf, tr, and now digital vegan

13:08 schestowitz-TR; among others

13:08 schestowitz-TR; even epo insider

13:08 schestowitz-TR; lots of material ahead for sirius too, but it needs to be generalised somewhat

13:08 schestowitz-TR; very improbable I'll take a full-time job again

13:09 techrightssec2; Excellen. Andy's writings cover very important topics and compliment the FSF's

13:09 techrightssec2; original messaging. Same for TR. Hopefully between TR and Andy, the FSF can

13:09 techrightssec2; gain some inspiration to reactivate.

13:10 schestowitz-TR; listento rms q and q aroudn 5-10min

13:10 schestowitz-TR; he wants more people to take the role he intends to carry on with as long as he is able

13:10 techrightssec2; Part-time might be useful as a touchstone for what the current trends and moods

13:10 techrightssec2; are in industry.

13:10 techrightssec2; ack

13:16 schestowitz-TR; rms mentioned stallmansupport.org at the end

13:16 schestowitz-TR; he turns 70 around april iirc

13:16 schestowitz-TR; gnu (usenet ANN) turns 40 in octobe iirc

13:16 schestowitz-TR; i left my job at 40

13:16 schestowitz-TR; he left at 30

13:16 schestowitz-TR; he had already done gnu emacs before it was gnu or gpl existed

13:16 schestowitz-TR; and did some system-level dev

13:16 schestowitz-TR; i suppose good practice for the OS work later

13:17 schestowitz-TR; i want and i need to focus on tr now

13:17 schestowitz-TR; I learned a lot (good and bad) at my job

13:17 schestowitz-TR; part-time from home would be enough and leave the mind open to thinking

13:17 schestowitz-TR; draft (not original)

13:18 schestowitz-TR; my dad turns 67 in 2 weeks

13:18 schestowitz-TR; he started reading my work, which is well overdue

13:18 schestowitz-TR; he now understands things better

13:27 techrightssec2; ack

13:27 schestowitz-TR; LF = coalition of monopolies, sellouts, and even scum (like spies)

13:27 schestowitz-TR; we need a coalition too, but opposite of the above

13:29 techrightssec2; How will the new foundation or consortium come up with the money to hire

13:29 techrightssec2; Linus?

13:31 schestowitz-TR; that is infeasible and not really the solution

13:32 schestowitz-TR; because Torvalds is not in sufficient control anymore

13:32 schestowitz-TR; we saw that in 2018

13:32 schestowitz-TR; the system or status quo is built around finances conundrum

13:32 schestowitz-TR; so you don't want developers controlled by github (loss leader) or luis villa

13:32 schestowitz-TR; and all those GAFAM operatives

13:32 schestowitz-TR; but life has financial strains, inc. legal bullying

13:32 schestowitz-TR; some people run away

13:32 techrightssec2; Nothing happpens without productive developers though.

13:36 schestowitz-TR; let's consider how linux is developed in 2022

13:36 schestowitz-TR; mailing lists (kernel.org)

13:36 schestowitz-TR; bugzilla

13:36 schestowitz-TR; many companies wanting to stick their patches before -rc1

13:36 schestowitz-TR; and Linus sort of deiciding

13:36 schestowitz-TR; except when Google et al decide for him, e.g rust

13:36 schestowitz-TR; after 4 years of lobbying through polymorphic front grou

13:37 schestowitz-TR; the go-to reasoning being "secuity"

13:37 schestowitz-TR; which is possible to debunk

13:37 schestowitz-TR; good devs write mem-safe code

13:37 schestowitz-TR; rust itself is a security and maintainance yoke

13:37 schestowitz-TR; etc etc

13:37 schestowitz-TR; then you have the salaries and infra

13:37 schestowitz-TR; LF is mostly ms github

13:37 schestowitz-TR; torvalds loist dight og what rms spoke about

13:37 schestowitz-TR; he likes gplv2

13:37 schestowitz-TR; he should reread the motivations for gplv2

13:37 schestowitz-TR; or v3

13:37 schestowitz-TR; he lost control of his work already

13:37 schestowitz-TR; fwiw, rms too shoulod reread it. microsoft systemd is bypassing or undermining gpl

13:37 schestowitz-TR; but unlike tivoisation, here the fsf does nothing

13:37 schestowitz-TR; while bagging money from the company that co-founded systemd, along with anotrher (intel)

13:37 schestowitz-TR; and then rewards crazy matt for helping exactly the agenda fsf had warned about for 2 years

13:37 techrightssec2; Yes, the FSF has been worringly quiet on the systemd-style attacks.

13:39 schestowitz-TR; i will say something strange:

13:39 schestowitz-TR; I think deeper inside fsf is shy to admit it missed something

13:39 schestowitz-TR; or was wrong

13:39 schestowitz-TR; esp. with large programs

13:39 schestowitz-TR; and frequent release cycles

13:39 schestowitz-TR; those too are threats

13:39 schestowitz-TR; figosdev wrote some new sthreats down

13:39 schestowitz-TR; fsf does not want to deviate from the original script

13:39 schestowitz-TR; or introduce gplv4 to deal with new issues

13:39 schestowitz-TR; gplv3 was already painful enough as some rejected the "patch"

13:39 schestowitz-TR; and that led to a split/rift

13:39 techrightssec2; Maybe but Athe longer they wait to correct the omission the worse those kinds

13:39 techrightssec2; of attacks spread.

13:39 techrightssec2; GPLv4 will be difficult. Eben has retired without a successor.

13:39 techrightssec2; GPLv3 was rejected, IMO, because few understand patents and even fewer sw patents

13:41 schestowitz-TR; maybe you and/or I should research those systemd software patents

13:41 schestowitz-TR; LP is now in Microsot

13:41 schestowitz-TR; and ICBM is also a swpats bully and lobbyist

13:41 schestowitz-TR; so it is relevant again

13:41 schestowitz-TR; I forgot the patent numbers

13:41 schestowitz-TR; but they do exist

13:41 schestowitz-TR; and maybe we can start debating systemd in the context of legal threats

13:41 schestowitz-TR; like we did mono

13:46 techrightssec2; It's probably less of a legal threat than more of a work-around preventing

13:46 techrightssec2; the freedom to examine or change the code because even trying to do so requires

13:46 techrightssec2; and inordinant amount of time, effort, and skill. Even if one ignores that

13:46 techrightssec2; last point, skill, and takes it for granted, systemd code is not even remotely

13:46 techrightssec2; accessible unless such a large amount of time and effort are expended as to

13:46 techrightssec2; effectively put it out of reach for anyone who hasn't been hired to work on the

13:46 techrightssec2; base

13:46 schestowitz-TR; and gets msft account at shithub

13:47 techrightssec2; There were analyses a while back going on about how few comments were in the

13:47 techrightssec2; code base and how few of those that were there were actually relevant

13:47 schestowitz-TR; MinceR: ^

13:51 techrightssec2; Might do Andy and Glyn a favor and include the ISBNs for their two works in

13:51 techrightssec2; the post. That will make it that much easier for people to get ahold of the

13:51 techrightssec2; books.

13:52 schestowitz-TR; funny that you mention it

13:52 schestowitz-TR; i was thinking almost the same at the same time

13:52 schestowitz-TR; 2-5 mins ago I thought about giving a url for the book

13:52 schestowitz-TR; but then pictures bezos face

13:52 schestowitz-TR; changed mind

13:52 schestowitz-TR; can you get the books' isbn

13:52 schestowitz-TR; I thought about adding cover pictures, but it would do no favour to the original from oliva

13:53 schestowitz-TR; I only fixed two typos in there

13:53 techrightssec2; Amazon can be avoided for both

13:53 techrightssec2; Double check but I think they are :

13:53 techrightssec2; "Walled Culture: How Big Content Uses Technology and the Law to Lock Down Culture and Keep Creators Poor." Glyn

13:53 techrightssec2; Moody. (2022) BTF Press. ISBN 9789464594959

13:53 techrightssec2; "Digital Vegan" Andy Farnell. (2021) Applied Scientific Press, London, England. ISBN 9780956088611

13:58 schestowitz-TR; added

13:58 schestowitz-TR; tested to ensure isbn leads to the correct books

13:58 schestowitz-TR; cheers

13:59 schestowitz-TR; the upcoming series is being chopped down to parts now

13:59 schestowitz-TR; like a big cow

13:59 schestowitz-TR; after finishing tm anual tasks I feel so much more relieved

13:59 schestowitz-TR; I used to have even worse annual tasks, lasting like half a day

13:59 schestowitz-TR; but some were automated

13:59 schestowitz-TR; now I can envision how I can split the chores till jan 5th

13:59 schestowitz-TR; seeing a paralegal later this week


2 PM, December 26

14:00 techrightssec2; np

14:00 techrightssec2; good

14:00 techrightssec2; I think the gallery is now properly archived but am not sure. Could you please

14:00 techrightssec2; put checking it on the list of things to do there? You and Rianne are much more

14:00 techrightssec2; familiar with what is supposed to be there and how it should look. I would be

14:00 techrightssec2; guessing on both aspects.

14:00 techrightssec2; https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

14:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | TuxGallery

14:00 schestowitz-TR; [05:15] <schestowitz-TR> testing static gallery for edge cases

14:00 schestowitz-TR; [05:15] <schestowitz-TR> (remember for drupal I have some scraping script, but let's do one thing at a time...)

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:15] <schestowitz-TR> biab trying to find ways to 'fail' the clone

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:18] <schestowitz-TR> if I try to see full sized screenshot, it puts upside down (like spanish) question mark

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:18] <schestowitz-TR> and does not (atm) present the image

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:18] <schestowitz-TR> I think old reviews of distros link to images this way

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14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:23] <schestowitz-TR> some other navigation links give 404, with the upside-down question marek

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:23] <schestowitz-TR> not moaning ;-) just trying to supply feedback

14:01 schestowitz-TR; [05:23] <schestowitz-TR> btw (ramble warning)

14:08 techrightssec2; Thanks!

14:08 techrightssec2; Which URLs have bad links? The questionmark is not allowed in path names for

14:08 techrightssec2; URLs since it denotes the end of the path + file name and the start of the

14:08 techrightssec2; query string. The inverted question mark seems like a fair substitute.

14:08 techrightssec2; But if there are broken links somewhere, those need to be identified by URL

14:09 schestowitz-TR; there are two factors (maybe more)

14:09 schestowitz-TR; a) how gallery links to itself (inwards)

14:09 schestowitz-TR; b) how search engines link to images and pages + how susan's reviews link to or hotlink those images

14:09 schestowitz-TR; ideally _all_ links should remain in tact

14:09 schestowitz-TR; so as to also avoid penalties from SEs and "lost" material previously indexes (many "news"

14:09 schestowitz-TR; sites doomed themselves cause f****ing suits don't know what changing a CMS actually begets)

14:10 techrightssec2; The links remain intact, the question mark removal is non negotiable with

14:10 techrightssec2; Apache2 and Nginx and other standards-compliant web servers.

14:10 techrightssec2; What can be done is have the Apache2 rewrite engine rewrite + redirect the

14:10 techrightssec2; old URLs at the old address to the new site.

14:10 techrightssec2; But the question remains, are there any dead links *within* the gallery on

14:10 techrightssec2; the new site?

14:15 schestowitz-TR; when I last checked, yes. several examples above.

14:15 schestowitz-TR; brb, water boiling

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3 PM, December 26

15:18 schestowitz-TR; larabel shitposting again

15:18 schestowitz-TR; he won't survive till 20 years (2024) with this style

15:18 schestowitz-TR; it's like those comments in lzer

15:18 schestowitz-TR; and phoronix forums

15:18 schestowitz-TR; people have a choice

15:18 schestowitz-TR; they have a choice to live and find BS-less place

15:18 schestowitz-TR; *leave

15:18 techrightssec2; ack

15:18 schestowitz-TR; slashdot's veiled hostility is alwo showing

15:18 schestowitz-TR; shilling systemd and the like

15:19 techrightssec2; ./ hostility against FOSS is not so veiled

15:20 schestowitz-TR; in relative terms. lol

15:45 schestowitz; https://www.fosslife.org/new-features-rust

↺ https://www.fosslife.org/new-features-rust

15:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | New Features in Rust

15:45 schestowitz; "

15:45 schestowitz; Now that the latest LTS version of the Linux kernel (version 6.1) includes initial support for Rust, interest in the programming language just keeps growing.

15:45 schestowitz; And, the language keeps evolving, too. The unique approach of the Rust programming language results in better code with fewer compromises than C, C++, Go, and the other languages you probably use. It also gets updated regularly, often every month, says InfoWorld.

15:45 schestowitz; In this article, Paul Krill and Serdar Yegulalp look at whats new in the most recent versions. For example, Rust 1.66 includes:

15:45 schestowitz; A newly stabilized black_box function

15:45 schestowitz; Use of cargo remove for removing dependencies

15:45 schestowitz; Improved runtime performance and memory usage

15:45 schestowitz; "

15:48 schestowitz-TR; SBOM = Suckewr for Bill Or Melinda

15:48 schestowitz-TR; Zemlin PAC

15:48 schestowitz-TR; Zemlin hailed billg as security visionary 2 months ago

15:48 schestowitz-TR; how does billg find the time. prof bill isn't tooo busy developing vaccines in a lab?

15:48 techrightssec2; ack

15:48 techrightssec2; SBOM is about creating further barriers to non-M$ software and basically anything modular.

15:50 schestowitz-TR; just look who pushed (and sponsored) this INTO the LF

15:50 schestowitz-TR; zemlin is not in charge

15:50 schestowitz-TR; his wife is not in charge of him either, unlike what he claims

15:50 schestowitz-TR; she is controlled by companies like microsoft

15:50 schestowitz-TR; and hence him and LF

15:50 schestowitz-TR; it's all about money

15:50 schestowitz-TR; just money

15:50 schestowitz-TR; always money

15:50 schestowitz-TR; they never turn down money

15:50 schestowitz-TR; and money is always right

15:55 techrightssec2; They try to make it as complex as possible to have any modular components.

15:55 techrightssec2; ie. FOSS

15:57 schestowitz-TR; industry seems to eventually gravitate towards putting frauds and liars in charge

15:57 schestowitz-TR; because in the short run lying (e.g.to shareholders and/or clients) "pays off"

15:57 schestowitz-TR; honesty does not

15:57 schestowitz-TR; hard work does not

15:57 schestowitz-TR; but exploiting hard-working people is another matter

15:57 schestowitz-TR; breinging people in conditionally from a very poor country is a strong motuivator

15:57 schestowitz-TR; irrespective of skils

15:57 schestowitz-TR; i just added to tm a story on docker and containers

15:57 schestowitz-TR; software used to be core and meta packages conbined

15:57 schestowitz-TR; the latter as services and groups of apis, stattically linked

15:57 schestowitz-TR; now they push container-style stuff

15:57 schestowitz-TR; like "android" and "apps"

15:57 schestowitz-TR; appimage, snap, flatpak

15:57 schestowitz-TR; that makes security even worse in a lot of ways

15:57 techrightssec2; Or despite actual lack of skills.

15:57 techrightssec2; s/despite/because of/

15:59 schestowitz-TR; fashion "Comes and Goes"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; "not in the mode"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; "Trending"

15:59 schestowitz-TR; mainframes -> personal pc -> mainf^h^hclown comptuing

15:59 schestowitz-TR; appliances -> general purpose computers - app******s


4 PM, December 26

16:00 techrightssec2; ack

16:43 schestowitz-TR; Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AYiwms-Yp5s Moderna = patent cartel, stealing what the public paid for, privatising it using patents, then signing secret deals with governments to rob taxpayers a second time around

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AYiwms-Yp5s

16:43 schestowitz-TR; yewtu.be | Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants - Invidious

16:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Clip, Moderna expands, UK, Canada and Australia plants - Invidious

16:43 schestowitz-TR; theguardian 'forgot' to say that it is taking bribes from Bill Gates for over a decade already. Of course Gates profits a lot from those patents + graft. theguardian never criticises the Famous Criminal Gates, which is KNOWN -- not merely speculated -- to profit from this https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/rishi-sunak-refuses-to-say-if-he-will-profit-from-moderna-covid-vaccine

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/rishi-sunak-refuses-to-say-if-he-will-profit-from-moderna-covid-vaccine

16:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Rishi Sunak refuses to say if he will profit from Moderna Covid vaccine | Rishi Sunak | The Guardian

16:43 schestowitz-TR; www.theguardian.com | Rishi Sunak refuses to say if he will profit from Moderna Covid vaccine | Rishi Sunak | The Guardian

16:45 schestowitz-TR; theguardian can protect its evil mobster and sponsor Bill Gates by merely deflecting or redirecting rage. That's one heck of a business model. It also keeps mocking Gates' critics. Same at BillBC, which of course pockets bribes from Gates too (no disclosures given).

16:52 techrightssec2; ack

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5 PM, December 26

17:01 MinceR; schestowitz-TR: yeah, i wonder how the tax-free software foundation will be able to spin systemd as "free software" once MICROS~1 starts issuing patent threats about it

17:02 MinceR; oh, i'm sorry, some entity that is _technically_ not MICROS~1

17:02 schestowitz-TR; patent trolls by proxy

17:02 schestowitz-TR; as before

17:02 schestowitz-TR; e.g. acacia

17:03 schestowitz-TR; among others


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