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beginning of new day, November 26

00:35 Techrightssec; good to hear. Mumble is very useful, especially if echo cancellation is active


4 AM, November 26

04:35 schestowitz-TR; Oh, god! 'Linux'Hint has just published another couple dozen WINDOWS stories, Proprietary Crap, and other stuff totally NOT related to Linux. That site has been like this throughout November. Might as well just shut the thing down! In respect to the people who USED to run it.

04:35 Techrightssec; :/

04:35 schestowitz-TR; 'Linux'Hint is now run/written by people who don't know Linux, don't use Linux, and generally reject Linus

04:37 schestowitz-TR; It's fair to say 'Linux'Hint is now an anti-Linux site. It promotes Windows!

04:38 schestowitz-TR; draft (3 videos this mornign; one as per your suggestion)

04:49 Techrightssec; checking

04:49 Techrightssec; Maybe expand "EPO" for the first occurence of the acronym.

04:49 Techrightssec; What channels to Eurppean citizens have to ask for oversight of the EPO?

04:50 schestowitz-TR; thanks, amending

04:50 schestowitz-TR; no official channels

04:50 schestowitz-TR; will emntion this in next artic.e..

04:58 Techrightssec; The absence of official channels should be mentioned then, possibly along

04:58 Techrightssec; with the existing, suboptimal options such as they are.


5 AM, November 26

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6 AM, November 26

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8 AM, November 26

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08:06 Techrightssec; it is not possible for microsofters to 'reskill' and become ICT professionals

08:06 Techrightssec; because not only is the skillset incompatible but the very mindset and illogical

08:06 Techrightssec; way they have of (not) organizing their thoughts is incompatible.

08:06 Techrightssec; for actual ICT you need a clear and organized thought process and logic.

08:06 Techrightssec; the m$ crap follows neither and is just randomly put together, thus it drives

08:06 Techrightssec; away those that would even have the potential to someday become skilled in ICT.

08:06 Techrightssec; that and their gatekeeper style oral tradition ensure that no one who is not

08:07 Techrightssec; 100% loyal to the cult will get the essential but undocumented knowledge needed

08:07 Techrightssec; to pretend to operate m$ products. thus there can be no crossover.

08:09 schestowitz-TR; i do not have sufficient direct experience with microsofters inside a company

08:09 schestowitz-TR; maybe I'm lucky to have dodged that

08:09 schestowitz-TR; the cloest was my phd supervisor, but he more than tolerated the use of gnu/linux by his postgrad students

08:23 schestowitz-TR; not to brag

08:23 schestowitz-TR; and not to claim a correlation for sure

08:23 schestowitz-TR; but since calling out spamnil i see he is reluctant with the clicfraud

08:23 schestowitz-TR; and limits how many he does (I think he sends a list of URLs for the bots)

08:23 schestowitz-TR; you can see videos almost 2 months old with less than 10 views

08:23 schestowitz-TR; and he doesn't make many videoa anymore, but what owrries me nowadays

08:23 schestowitz-TR; is what happened to linuxhint

08:23 schestowitz-TR; today it was a net of 0% linus

08:23 schestowitz-TR; and lots of windows

08:23 schestowitz-TR; it went rhough periods, sometimes doing programming posts

08:23 schestowitz-TR; then PLAGIARISING programming post

08:23 schestowitz-TR; after it had attemped to do amazon catalogue disguised as reviews and such

08:23 schestowitz-TR; a year ago the site was still mostly OK

08:23 schestowitz-TR; a

08:23 schestowitz-TR; TON of GOOD howtos

08:23 schestowitz-TR; those are very rarely now and author names have changed

08:23 schestowitz-TR; if this keeps happening to good sites, we'll be short on material for daily links

08:23 schestowitz-TR; and TM

08:26 Techrightssec; ack

08:26 Techrightssec; excellent

08:26 Techrightssec; that he is curbing the bullshit

08:26 Techrightssec; Yes, site after site has been falling away, eithe shut down outright or passing

08:26 Techrightssec; through an ugly pro-M$ phase first.

08:26 Techrightssec; It's a matter of national security for all nations that there is only

08:26 Techrightssec; microsoftianism taught (a vocation) instead of theory and applied theory

08:26 Techrightssec; at universities. I bet it's not possible to get through a basic 5-year

08:26 Techrightssec; Comp Sci or Electrical Engineering degree without being *required* to

08:27 Techrightssec; use m$ gimmicks for at least two semesters. It's a bet I'd like to lose but

08:27 Techrightssec; all the indicators are that Bill has destroyed higher ed in the US.

08:27 Techrightssec; Reagan took out the primary and secondary education first though.

08:27 schestowitz-TR; you are right, even 22 years ago there was a semester with a module where we needed to do some stuff in excel

08:27 schestowitz-TR; or access or something

08:27 schestowitz-TR; back then they didn't have staroffice as an option

08:30 Techrightssec; The institutions lock people into m$ + blackboard and then don't give a rat's

08:30 Techrightssec; asshole if either work or if instead the teachers or students end up frittering

08:30 Techrightssec; away the contact hours unproductively attempting to accomplished the assigned

08:30 Techrightssec; tasks using the toys required in place of real tools.

08:34 schestowitz-TR; 2 daysa ago I saw a blog post (you sent the rss feeds) about someone who had taught, moved to industry, then made

08:34 schestowitz-TR; a statement on teacher (IIRC, maybe a comeback)

08:34 schestowitz-TR; the problem with such a trajectory is, people who taught decades ago have not much to go BACK to

08:34 schestowitz-TR; as that thing they had come from changed over time

08:34 schestowitz-TR; I recently examples the syllabus of UoM and it's mostly OK, aside from buzzwords

08:34 schestowitz-TR; but that's a relatively high-ranked CS school

08:34 schestowitz-TR; becoming a teachers in universities now, I would gues, means lots of clown, smut "phones",

08:34 schestowitz-TR; and other crap never designed with either productivity nor education

08:34 schestowitz-TR; *or

08:34 schestowitz-TR; in mind

08:34 schestowitz-TR; ime, based on Palm PDA/Palm OS since 2001, too much of these gadgets is harmful and possibly addictive

08:36 Techrightssec; https://www.bbc.com/news/education-46019429

↺ https://www.bbc.com/news/education-46019429

08:36 Techrightssec; It's worse for mental / social health

08:36 Techrightssec; Back then the PDAs were still about getting work done. Nowadays the tools are

08:36 Techrightssec; either designed intentionally as addictive timewasters (engagement) on purpose,

08:36 Techrightssec; or unintentionally by kids who have only ever seen inefficient, time-wasting

08:36 Techrightssec; user interfaces and think not only that it is "normal" but expect it.

08:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Surgery students 'losing dexterity to stitch patients' - BBC News

08:42 schestowitz-TR; yesterday I had a lengthy chat with my mom about what cars were becoming

08:42 schestowitz-TR; she hadn't thought much about it, but the point sank in after a while

08:42 schestowitz-TR; I still don't know what the "latest" cars are like, it's moving ahead fast,

08:42 schestowitz-TR; converging with what cars are NOT meant to me

08:42 schestowitz-TR; becoming more of a distraction (hence, death toll)

08:42 schestowitz-TR; I still don't fully understand how people "use" [sic] tiktok but sometimes I see

08:42 schestowitz-TR; people use "phones" and "apps". Their time would be better spent talking to an

08:42 schestowitz-TR; actual person or using actual programs such as kdenlive or cad suites

08:42 schestowitz-TR; getting stuff "done" in life using "car" screen and "mobile" is like getting by

08:42 schestowitz-TR; nutrition/diet-wide on 12-pack bags of craisps and pcks of chewing gum


9 AM, November 26

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09:13 schestowitz-TR; going through links atm, seeing more on twitter going titsup

09:13 schestowitz-TR; this is very very very good news

09:13 schestowitz-TR; also the alexa bubble

09:13 schestowitz-TR; losses upon losses just to record people inside their own homes

09:13 schestowitz-TR; companies operating at a loss... for social control, rewarded by "deep state" budget

09:15 Techrightssec; IIRC it was Cory who has been vocal about cars being computers you put your

09:15 Techrightssec; body into; They're more complex than that though and are really rolling

09:15 Techrightssec; networks of networks which are in turn often connected intentionally or

09:15 Techrightssec; accidentally to The Internet.

09:15 Techrightssec; If Musk can take out Twitter permanently then that will only be a good thing.

09:15 Techrightssec; However, there is a small risk that he and his Saudi backers can succeed in

09:15 Techrightssec; turning it into a loud and successful version of Gab or Pravda -- for social

09:15 Techrightssec; control.

09:15 Techrightssec; Like m$, it does not matter how much losses there are nor for how long the losses run. It's entirely about control.

09:15 Techrightssec; Just like the rest of modern computing.

09:16 schestowitz-TR; yes, that's one message we need to convey

09:16 schestowitz-TR; with burden of proof on us

09:16 schestowitz-TR; as that contradicts the well-funded marketing machines, which nowadays include "the media"

09:16 Techrightssec; It's hard to convey when almost no one under the age of 40 even knows how

09:16 Techrightssec; to use a computer let alone actually uses one. Under the age of 30 even fewer

09:16 Techrightssec; have even seen a general purpose computer.

09:18 schestowitz-TR; it's not easy to convince people

09:18 schestowitz-TR; same issue when the vast majority do not understand how patents work

09:18 schestowitz-TR; or why some meds, even vaccines, are made so expensive (superficially)

09:18 schestowitz-TR; and hence the rich get richer rapidly

09:18 Techrightssec; Or if they have some misguided or misinformed idea that patents are related in

09:18 Techrightssec; any way to innovation. Yes there is correlation but an inverse one. :(

09:21 schestowitz-TR; my mom thought patents are an actual thing

09:22 schestowitz-TR; like if you see a screw, that's a patent

09:22 schestowitz-TR; because something about it might be patented

09:22 schestowitz-TR; the media played a big role in this

09:22 schestowitz-TR; I saw some very misleading headline

09:22 schestowitz-TR; when I was a teenager and we did a business the media covered us, saying we "invent patents"

09:22 schestowitz-TR; which makes no sense

09:22 schestowitz-TR; also, we never pursued any patents

09:22 schestowitz-TR; so it was a lie on several level

09:22 schestowitz-TR; I still have a clipping of that title (headline) and the article

09:22 schestowitz-TR; they basically used teens to make a bunch of noise about "patents"

09:22 schestowitz-TR; where none at all were involved

09:22 schestowitz-TR; my guess is that patent-related activists have been quiet due to shock and trauma of this economy

09:22 schestowitz-TR; or lack of participation from media with broader audiences

09:22 schestowitz-TR; which in turns lowers incentive to do the activism, the work

09:37 Techrightssec; One of the reasons lawyers and MBAs can get away with so much noise is that

09:37 Techrightssec; they've succeeded in confusing and disorienting the public by yammering on

09:37 Techrightssec; about "intellectual property rights" which are neither intellectual,

09:37 Techrightssec; nor property, nor rights. The media has chosen to play along so many

09:37 Techrightssec; smart and otherwise well-intentioned individuals don't know better and parrot

09:37 Techrightssec; those lines. Basically by steering the discussion away from the concrete

09:37 Techrightssec; and distinct domains of 1) patents, 2) copyright, 3) trademarks, or

09:37 Techrightssec; 4) trade secrets they make discussin impossible and that is the main goal that

09:37 Techrightssec; I see from use of the misleading term "intellectual property rights"

09:37 Techrightssec; If you can't even converse about the topic you certainly cannot fight it or even

09:37 Techrightssec; reform it because you are *not* talking about it but instead some fantasy in

09:37 Techrightssec; its place.

09:38 schestowitz-TR; clown computing

09:38 schestowitz-TR; home assistants

09:38 schestowitz-TR; "enterprise" software

09:39 schestowitz-TR; and so on

09:39 schestowitz-TR; the media chooses the language

09:39 schestowitz-TR; and we know who fudns the media

09:58 Techrightssec; One of the spying microphones is losing money. I wonder how long the company

09:58 Techrightssec; fronting it will keep it around anyway despite the ongoing losses.


10 AM, November 26

10:11 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the aws cia contract is circo 10bn

10:11 schestowitz-TR; or 6

10:11 schestowitz-TR; was 6 around 2015?

10:38 mjg59_; CIA have no meaningful need for compute, it's nowhere near that much

10:39 mjg59_; It's a number that would make sense for the NSA


11 AM, November 26

11:02 Techrightssec; Not sure. Do you mean this one, it is just a drop in the bucket:

11:02 Techrightssec; https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/

↺ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/

11:02 Techrightssec; https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2020/11/exclusive-cia-awards-secret-multibillion-dollar-cloud-contract/170227/

↺ https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2020/11/exclusive-cia-awards-secret-multibillion-dollar-cloud-contract/170227/

11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/ )

↺ https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/cia-awards-multibillion-c2e-cloud-contract-aws-microsoft-google-oracle-and-ibm/

11:02 Techrightssec; More bailout money for M$

11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CIA Awards Secret Multibillion-Dollar Cloud Contract - Nextgov

11:02 Techrightssec; https://fortune.com/2015/06/29/intelligence-community-loves-its-new-amazon-cloud/

↺ https://fortune.com/2015/06/29/intelligence-community-loves-its-new-amazon-cloud/

11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-CIA cloud gets kudos from security agencies | Fortune

11:02 Techrightssec; https://www.govexec.com/magazine/features/2014/07/daring-deal/88207/

↺ https://www.govexec.com/magazine/features/2014/07/daring-deal/88207/

11:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.govexec.com | Daring Deal - Government Executive

11:03 schestowitz-TR; oceans of "money" (debt)

11:03 schestowitz-TR; bailout (financial, threat to national security) under the guise of "defence"


1 PM, November 26

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13:28 schestowitz-TR; Statistics About COVID-19 Vaccines in the United States https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/26/statistics-about-covid-19-vaccines/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/26/statistics-about-covid-19-vaccines/

13:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Statistics About COVID-19 Vaccines in the United States


3 PM, November 26

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6 PM, November 26

18:05 schestowitz-TR; ping

18:05 schestowitz-TR; never mind

18:05 schestowitz-TR; but there's a draft

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7 PM, November 26

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19:36 Techrightssec; back

19:36 Techrightssec; checking

19:39 schestowitz-TR; been setting up pi400 to do things

19:39 schestowitz-TR; nice to have a spare to experiment on like this

19:39 Techrightssec; Yes a spare is quite valuable. If you have additional USB sticks to boot from

19:39 Techrightssec; then you effectively have an additional machine from each stick.

19:49 schestowitz-TR; this machine is already a 'hot spare' in case the 2020 pi dies

19:49 schestowitz-TR; and it's hard to get more of them now


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