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2 AM, September 26

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3 AM, September 26

03:24 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "This is another reason I no longer read sites like Hacker News. Once you recognise this pattern of pedantry and obtuseness, its impossible not to see it in many of the comments, even if the authors arent aware theyre doing it." https://rubenerd.com/if-you-want-to-understand-reality-dont-be-pedantic/

↺ https://rubenerd.com/if-you-want-to-understand-reality-dont-be-pedantic/

03:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Rubenerd: If you want to understand reality, dont be pedantic

03:39 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Social Media Has the Same Downsides As Alcohol - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/ Source: The Atlantic | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/

↺ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/social-media-attention-alcohol-booze-instagram-twitter/620101/

03:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theatlantic.com | Social Media Has the Same Downsides As Alcohol - The Atlantic

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4 AM, September 26

04:36 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Excess Deaths in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/

04:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in England and Wales Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far)


5 AM, September 26

05:18 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Survival After COVID-19 Takes More Than 4 Weeks (the 'Gold Standard' for Measuring Fatalities' Correlation and Cause) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-long-term/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-long-term/

05:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Survival After COVID-19 Takes More Than 4 Weeks (the Gold Standard for Measuring Fatalities Correlation and Cause)

05:25 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 Spreads Very Freely This Past Summer https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/percent-of-people-testing-positive/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/percent-of-people-testing-positive/

05:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Spreads Very Freely This Past Summer

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6 AM, September 26

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06:29 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the Brain https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/post-covid-alzheimers/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/post-covid-alzheimers/

06:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19: Permanent, Irreversible Impact on the Brain

06:31 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> UK Data: COVID-19 Infections Still Worse This Month Than the Same Time Two Years Ago https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-infections/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/covid-19-infections/

06:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Data: COVID-19 Infections Still Worse This Month Than the Same Time Two Years Ago

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7 AM, September 26

07:15 schestowitz-TR; my dad has a 80l tank

07:15 schestowitz-TR; with some trulty massive fish

07:15 schestowitz-TR; i spoke to him about it yesterday

07:15 schestowitz-TR; we adopted another approach

07:15 schestowitz-TR; of 'hosing' out the dirty water and adding fresher but pre-treated (days ahead)

07:15 schestowitz-TR; we have some ready for wednesday since friday

07:15 schestowitz-TR; the potions help add bacteria that eats up the poo and releases gases

07:15 schestowitz-TR; rianne is still reading up on it

07:15 schestowitz-TR; greening also caused by direct sunlight lately

07:20 schestowitz-TR; ----

07:20 schestowitz-TR; change of subject: atm in irc we talk about the new dementia study

07:20 schestowitz-TR; dated days ago

07:20 schestowitz-TR; it takes years to collect data on cause and effetc for split sibject groups

07:20 schestowitz-TR; so now we can see what covid-19 does

07:20 schestowitz-TR; (set aside vaccine; it's a bit of a red herring)

07:20 schestowitz-TR; i realise now some friends envy our approach

07:20 schestowitz-TR; we keps naturally health by isolating

07:20 schestowitz-TR; and found a way to still do the key activities

07:20 schestowitz-TR; not sure how much longer we can keep at it

07:20 schestowitz-TR; but I am hungry for information

07:20 schestowitz-TR; Ireckon one hour per week writing/reading about it is better than 100 hours in bed

07:20 schestowitz-TR; agonising and having no way back

07:34 schestowitz-TR; --

07:34 schestowitz-TR; all it takes is one small mistake

07:34 schestowitz-TR; and then a steep curve in health risk/harm

07:34 schestowitz-TR; tbh, i don't spent much time tracking all this

07:34 schestowitz-TR; i did a lot of stats as a student and this is very basic

07:34 schestowitz-TR; that john campbell reaches the same conclusions indpendently more or less validates

07:34 schestowitz-TR; what I'be been seeing and writing about

07:34 schestowitz-TR; but I'm not on social control media

07:34 schestowitz-TR; so I cannot be "warned" or "cautioned" or "suspended" anymore

07:34 schestowitz-TR; the first link I sent along shows that start hiding even death-related data

07:34 schestowitz-TR; I reckon they will go to great lengths to suppress statistics 101

07:34 schestowitz-TR; going through the raw data:

07:34 schestowitz-TR; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/26/spring-ons-data/

07:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Excess Deaths in England and Wales Office for National Statistics (Spring and Summer 2022 by Far the Worst So Far)

07:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe this is the next thing to be culled or manipulated

07:34 schestowitz-TR; like that weekly report that just 'vanished' without prior warning

07:34 schestowitz-TR; in start of July when there was a surge

07:34 schestowitz-TR; I am upset about this, but have not contacted my MP

07:34 schestowitz-TR; they're a lot less powerless than people are led to believe

07:34 schestowitz-TR; they're like one among hundreds who are just temporarily there

07:34 schestowitz-TR; having maybe 20 seconds to interject a sound bote

07:34 schestowitz-TR; *bite

07:36 schestowitz-TR; --

07:36 schestowitz-TR; i may or may have have mentioned it yesterday, my my athelete friend had to see knee specialist

07:36 schestowitz-TR; and get special treatment "2 weeks" after the vaccine (I only found our yesterday)

07:36 schestowitz-TR; and my other good friend had the same thing, so when he told me I called rianne over and told her

07:36 schestowitz-TR; she needed to hear it (that's 2 out of 2); but they work in an office enviropnment, so cannot isolate fully

07:49 Techrights-sec; offices usually have exceptionally poor ventilation and sanitation these days

07:50 schestowitz-TR; then there is "hot-desking", which is gross and likely meant to lessen morale

07:50 schestowitz-TR; lessen chance of building solidarity, unions, friendships

07:51 Techrights-sec; that's even worse since hot desking is not only filthy but about ensuring

07:51 Techrights-sec; that the employees do not have and are unable to acquire/retain any of the

07:51 Techrights-sec; physical artifacts necessary to do or supplement their work

07:58 schestowitz-TR; i wanted to say earlier, but dreaded the prospect of overruning your scrollback buffer

07:58 schestowitz-TR; I still remember the first warning we got re astrazeneca

07:58 schestowitz-TR; I wrote about this in the gym and emailed myself

07:58 schestowitz-TR; also, the media has since then been on a massive voice-suppression campaign

07:58 schestowitz-TR; people need to whisper about it for fear

07:58 schestowitz-TR; and then you have social control media, where everything is under surveillance

07:58 schestowitz-TR; and during lockdowns it's the only thing people used

07:58 schestowitz-TR; it shows that, like FB 'experiments', they already dabble in mass manipulation of "consensus"

07:58 schestowitz-TR; a la conflicts

07:58 schestowitz-TR; even in the streets (new laws here)

07:58 schestowitz-TR; then you have wannabe irckkkops lurking in irc networks

07:58 schestowitz-TR; freenode aside

07:58 schestowitz-TR; they know no boundaries

07:58 schestowitz-TR; but lecture people about "boundaries"

07:58 schestowitz-TR; I totally support medicine, modern medicine

07:58 schestowitz-TR; but I reject oppression against speech, which itself is needed for proper research

07:58 schestowitz-TR; or even a shift away from fossil fuels

07:59 Techrights-sec; yes

07:59 Techrights-sec; and that silence has been exploited and used to push strawman arguments

07:59 Techrights-sec; by associating any questions with anti-vax whackos


8 AM, September 26

08:00 Techrights-sec; ack


9 AM, September 26

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10 AM, September 26

10:13 Techrights-sec; https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/

10:13 Techrights-sec; ^old

10:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/ )

↺ https://www.projectcensored.org/elite-lapdogs-always-welcome-in-the-corporate-media/

10:13 schestowitz-TR; hust ran around the stadium again

10:13 schestowitz-TR; went to the store

10:13 schestowitz-TR; before the sun vanishes

10:13 schestowitz-TR; will post links, then record in bulk

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10:22 Techrights-sec; ack

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11 AM, September 26

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noon, September 26

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12:35 schestowitz-TR; OTA (btw, I'm reasonablly sue it's irc that's costing me hours per day; but no guilt, irc too is important)

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14:09 schestowitz-TR; recording 6 videos

14:09 schestowitz-TR; it's a bit difficult to be frank

14:09 schestowitz-TR; the topics change fast

14:09 schestowitz-TR; i will try this a few times more and then see if I find a way to cope

14:09 schestowitz-TR; going to start encoding and writing now

14:26 Techrights-sec; ack

14:30 schestowitz-TR; rianne was also walking around here doing the clothes/laundry

14:30 schestowitz-TR; which contributed to distraction

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I'll try the same again tomorrow

14:30 Techrights-sec; ack

14:33 schestowitz-TR; draft

14:33 schestowitz-TR; (should we ever use the word "boycott" in relation tro ubuntu?)

14:33 Techrights-sec; (probably not just yet, but it is certainly appropriate to steer to other

14:33 Techrights-sec; Debian derivatives nowadays and, when possible, even Devuan derivatives.)

14:34 schestowitz-TR; there are not many microsofeters in canonical (that I know of)

14:34 schestowitz-TR; Red Hat is worse

14:40 Techrights-sec; There are at least a few, and placed in influential posts.

14:41 schestowitz-TR; possible task: make a list from the corporate site

14:41 schestowitz-TR; check their cv one at a time

14:41 schestowitz-TR; should be.... intereesting

14:47 Techrights-sec; Few microsofters post their CVs anymore, and those that do somehow manage

14:47 Techrights-sec; to omit incriminating employement

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14:48 schestowitz-TR; i did a video about this (4 ou of 6, iirc)

14:48 schestowitz-TR; in relation to linkedin

14:48 schestowitz-TR; the last public v of mine is very old, 20+ years

14:48 schestowitz-TR; *cv

14:48 schestowitz-TR; draft

14:50 Techrights-sec; are there some percentages (and rate of decline) to cite in either the summary

14:50 Techrights-sec; or the body?

14:50 Techrights-sec; And what is the rate of decline over the course of these last 3, 6, or 9 months?

14:51 schestowitz-TR; ah, that's tricky

14:51 schestowitz-TR; it dpeneds what you measure

14:51 schestowitz-TR; i cover it in the video

14:53 schestowitz-TR; if I stick to this publicatino pipeline, I will do a playlist file so that processing of the files can be done with minimal intervention

14:53 schestowitz-TR; i also want to find a better way to show the progress bar on an external pc

14:53 schestowitz-TR; so that i can see issues and progression better

14:54 schestowitz-TR; we've under-utilisede the video pipeline lately


3 PM, September 26

15:09 Techrights-sec; ack

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15:20 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:20 Techrights-sec; checking

15:21 Techrights-sec; It is important to note that the kind of people who would work at M$ would

15:21 Techrights-sec; not be advantageous for others to hire, they'd fail on both technical skills

15:21 Techrights-sec; and, especially, ethics.

15:23 Techrights-sec; Furthermore they appear to prioritize loyalty to

15:23 Techrights-sec; microsoft as a movement over even the survival of their new paymasters. In

15:23 Techrights-sec; effect they remain employed by M$ but with another company paying the paychecks

15:23 Techrights-sec; instead.

15:39 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_Visas

http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_Visas

15:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft - Offshoring and Visas - Techrights

15:39 schestowitz-TR; i will add some links to clarify this

15:39 Techrights-sec; Thanks. And some text for the links, please, so they make sense also in Gemini

15:39 Techrights-sec; too.

15:41 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_Visas

http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_-_Offshoring_and_Visas

15:41 schestowitz-TR; this page is very vey very old

15:41 schestowitz-TR; at least it is in gemini also

15:41 schestowitz-TR; the decline//demise of microsoft is already happening

15:41 schestowitz-TR; but we falsely assume the media would properly report on it

15:41 schestowitz-TR; instead it's like the irqui info minister

15:41 schestowitz-TR; *iraqi

15:41 schestowitz-TR; same for icbm

15:41 schestowitz-TR; always dominated a lot of the media and narrative

15:41 schestowitz-TR; even when ibm goes down in flames for over a decade already

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4 PM, September 26

16:06 Techrights-sec; checking

16:06 Techrights-sec; Might mention a few standalone IRC clients and several non Libera networks.

16:06 Techrights-sec; Maybe even have a few lines about how IRC networks are structured.

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16:18 schestowitz-TR; draft

16:18 schestowitz-TR; added a very long paragraph

16:18 schestowitz-TR; that can help add some new people

16:19 schestowitz-TR; mark (cubexyz) came back some days ago

16:19 schestowitz-TR; been around since the early years

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16:28 Techrights-sec; checking

16:28 Techrights-sec; Thanks. Is there a list of IRC networks to link to somewhere?

16:28 Techrights-sec; ttps://netsplit.de/networks/

16:28 Techrights-sec; https://search.mibbit.com/networks

↺ https://search.mibbit.com/networks

16:28 Techrights-sec; https://search.mibbit.com/add_network.php

↺ https://search.mibbit.com/add_network.php

16:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-search.mibbit.com | IRC Networks

16:28 Techrights-sec; https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=techrights

↺ https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=techrights

16:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-search.mibbit.com | Add your network

16:28 Techrights-sec; MOTD needs replacement

16:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-netsplit.de | NO TITLE

16:28 schestowitz-TR; will plug in some lists

16:28 schestowitz-TR; you can write a new welcoming message

16:28 schestowitz-TR; or we can edit collaboratively

16:33 Techrights-sec; The list in netsplit.de could label #techrights as the /official/ channel

16:38 schestowitz-TR; prefer not to mention but not a secret either: i keep one machine connected to the old channel in both other network, logging to the same

16:38 schestowitz-TR; file

16:38 schestowitz-TR; in effetc merging them in

16:38 schestowitz-TR; but hardly anything happens there anyway

16:38 schestowitz-TR; so the techrights channel is basically logging from 3 different network to the same log file

16:38 schestowitz-TR; only one has any signal in it

16:38 schestowitz-TR; signal LEFT

16:38 schestowitz-TR; there used to be some

16:38 Techrights-sec; Ok.

16:38 Techrights-sec; The post could have pointed out that there are multiple channels per network,

16:38 Techrights-sec; since that is something newcomers might not be aware of.

16:38 Techrights-sec; ack

16:39 Techrights-sec; I don't suppose there is a way to close the old ones so that no new clients

16:39 Techrights-sec; can join them?

16:39 Techrights-sec; s/old/wrong/

16:39 schestowitz-TR; i am just a guest there

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16:55 schestowitz-TR; draft

16:56 Techrights-sec; checking

16:56 Techrights-sec; otr; might mention that GNU provides much of the user-space for GNU/Linux distrootr: and even a little for other systems up to and including MacOS and FreeB

16:56 Techrights-sec; SD

16:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/open-sources/1565925823/ch06.html

↺ https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/open-sources/1565925823/ch06.html

16:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-gnulinux

↺ https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/what-is-gnulinux

16:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch01s02.html.en

↺ https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch01s02.html.en

16:56 Techrights-sec; obligatory : https://www.gnu.org/

↺ https://www.gnu.org/

16:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.oreilly.com | 5. The GNU Operating System and the Free Software Movement - Open Sources [Book]

16:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-What Is GNU/Linux? | PCMag

16:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debian.org | 1.2.What is GNU/Linux?

16:56 Techrights-sec; for later, regarding Halloween Documents:

16:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.theguardian.com/books/firstchapters/story/0,6761,471281,00.html

↺ https://www.theguardian.com/books/firstchapters/story/0,6761,471281,00.html

16:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.gnu.org | The GNU Operating System and the Free Software Movement

16:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theguardian.com | Rebel Code: Linus Torvalds, Open Source, and the War for the Soul of Software by Glyn Moody | First chapters | guardian.co.uk Books

16:56 Techrights-sec; biab


5 PM, September 26

17:21 Techrights-sec; ack

17:44 schestowitz-TR; added all the links

17:44 schestowitz-TR; last draft (6th video)

17:44 Techrights-sec; checking

17:44 Techrights-sec; "The corruption at the European Patent Office (EPO) is ..."

17:44 Techrights-sec; a few words about why Campinos and Batistelli belong in prison would help

17:44 Techrights-sec; the paragraph about copyright trolling breaks the flow, maybe it should go

17:44 Techrights-sec; closer to the end?

17:44 Techrights-sec; Really only the first paragraph covers the European Patent Office, so if it

17:45 Techrights-sec; is not the main topic of the post, the first paragraph in the body should

17:45 Techrights-sec; map out the flow and tie together the subsequent three paragraphs

17:45 Techrights-sec; (The summary though is fine as it is)

17:59 Techrights-sec; (the acronym EPO needs to be spelled out in the first non-summary paragraph)


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21:47 Techrights-sec; breaking: https://text.npr.org/1125109303

↺ https://text.npr.org/1125109303

21:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | Putin grants Russian citizenship to Edward Snowden

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22:15 schestowitz-TR; thanks, checking grammar now

22:15 schestowitz-TR; [topic] Google Photos Corruopted, Highlighting Dangers of Clown Computing

22:15 schestowitz-TR; *Corrupted

22:15 schestowitz-TR; the lessons learned are, even large companies cannot be relied upon with your dsta; in fact, they don't value this data and won't make a special

22:15 schestowitz-TR; effort to protect or restore it

22:15 schestowitz-TR; with Picaza, they just tore down people's tools and data, purely for business reasons

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22:54 schestowitz; [22:53] <techrights-news> "The solution is to only use the spellchecker options that keep the data on your computerand dont send it into the cloud..." THE CLOWN!! https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/leaking-passwords-through-the-spellchecker.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/09/leaking-passwords-through-the-spellchecker.html

22:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Leaking Passwords through the Spellchecker - Schneier on Security


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