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1 AM, June 26

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5 AM, June 26

05:16 schestowitz; https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/

↺ https://www.linuxtoday.com/blog/

05:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxtoday.com | Blog Archives | Linux Today

05:16 schestowitz; look at the "pegination"

05:16 schestowitz; not even a Web page

05:16 schestowitz; this is awful

05:20 schestowitz-TR; also, unless I am missing something, it is no longer possible to leave comments

05:20 schestowitz-TR; AND

05:20 schestowitz-TR; all the old comments are gone

05:20 schestowitz-TR; there used to be some good comments on there until about a decade ago

05:20 schestowitz-TR; I dislike it when sites make important comments just vanish like they don't matter

05:20 schestowitz-TR; and never existed

05:22 schestowitz-TR; no authors page

05:22 schestowitz-TR; no archives

05:22 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to 'bash' them publicly though

05:22 schestowitz-TR; sometimes they link to us

05:23 schestowitz-TR; they clearly did not optimise for usability or preservation but something like "UX" or marketing

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6 AM, June 26

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06:38 Techrights-sec2; "UX" is a pox

06:44 schestowitz-TR; Being A Confident Pedestrian gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1035

↺ gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1035


7 AM, June 26

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07:35 Techrights-sec2; checking

07:35 Techrights-sec2; were all of RMS' interviews removed or just the RT ones?

07:35 schestowitz-TR; draft

07:35 schestowitz-TR; very thing RT.. and his one time at Alex Jones/DisinfoWar

07:35 schestowitz-TR; *everything

07:37 Techrights-sec2; I had not known about the latter; that was even worse judgement than talking to

07:37 Techrights-sec2; RT. However, the most foolish of all was his going to Redmond; There aren't

07:37 Techrights-sec2; words to describe how stupid that looked even at the time, now that some time

07:37 Techrights-sec2; has passed, it looks even more foolish. That's really too bad, because he

07:37 Techrights-sec2; may not be able to make up for it

07:37 Techrights-sec2; strategically

07:38 schestowitz-TR; Coin-operated SJVN has since then used that to say even RMS is OK with Microsoft

07:38 schestowitz-TR; and thus anyone who dislikes Microsoft is even 'more extreme' than RMS

07:39 Techrights-sec2; Yep, they will continue to milk that for decades, assuming they are around that

07:39 Techrights-sec2; long. If RMS kicks off soon, they will even pull not just an "OK with" but

07:39 Techrights-sec2; a posthumous endorsement out of it like many did with Swartz

07:53 schestowitz-TR; draft

07:53 Techrights-sec2; ack

07:53 Techrights-sec2; btw there was a good article in popsci or something like that evaluating

07:53 Techrights-sec2; laptops with Linux pre-installed

07:53 Techrights-sec2; checking draft ...

07:55 schestowitz-TR; that's the article I mentioned to you yesterday

07:55 schestowitz-TR; I added that to tuxmachines

07:55 schestowitz-TR; about once a ay I check gulag noise to see what "Linux" news I do not yet have an rss feed for, then I search for feed categry

07:55 schestowitz-TR; and try to cover the gap

07:55 schestowitz-TR; until some time from now when I won't check anymore

07:55 schestowitz-TR; popsci won't cover Linux often

07:55 schestowitz-TR; so even if there is an rss feed for such a category

07:55 Techrights-sec2; how is LF paying journalists to play along?

07:56 schestowitz-TR; it would be a wasste of b/w at both ends

07:56 schestowitz-TR; it is explained in the video

07:56 schestowitz-TR; it pays their employer (site)

07:56 Techrights-sec2; ok that it is explained in the video ought to be mentioned in the texxt

07:56 Techrights-sec2; to encourage listening to the video


8 AM, June 26

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I have added a long footnote as that was technically easier

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I think we must repeat and repoeat the LF info

08:02 schestowitz-TR; in different ways and angles

08:02 schestowitz-TR; even if people get upset at LF they tend to forget and mayeb forgive after a while

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I mentions jperlow in passing

08:02 schestowitz-TR; along with various other things

08:02 schestowitz-TR; I forgot to mention patents in the video

08:02 schestowitz-TR; so compensated in the text later

08:07 Techrights-sec2; ack

08:08 schestowitz-TR; with lunuke with "LONG footmind-19"

08:08 schestowitz-TR; *foggymind

08:08 schestowitz-TR; and with the likes of FOSSForce bought/bribed

08:09 schestowitz-TR; the number of people capable of touching this subject is very small

08:09 schestowitz-TR; which is what they want of course

08:09 schestowitz-TR; never underestimate the power of liars with access to oversized budgets (EPO had BILLIONS, more than LF)

08:14 Techrights-sec2; yes

08:14 Techrights-sec2; Lunduke hasn't been all right for a very long time now

08:15 schestowitz-TR; if the wife is working, he might be OK

08:15 schestowitz-TR; see the above link (gemini) about not having a car at these times

08:15 schestowitz-TR; with gas price

08:16 Techrights-sec2; yes that was a good link

08:16 Techrights-sec2; unfortunately most US communities are designed so that it is physically

08:16 Techrights-sec2; impossible to operate without a car; and if one tries there will be social,

08:16 Techrights-sec2; legal, or dangers to contend with

08:16 Techrights-sec2; taxis would be the next alternative but that is still a form of car usage

08:27 Techrights-sec2; cars are the opposite of freedom

08:27 Techrights-sec2; and by car, that includes all the "light" trucks that people actually drive

08:27 Techrights-sec2; while still calling them cars

08:28 schestowitz-TR; cars, like kids, are a liability

08:28 schestowitz-TR; I have 5 nieces and newphews

08:28 schestowitz-TR; and they are iether miserable right now (in the US) or have learning/development perils

08:28 schestowitz-TR; which begets misery for the parents

08:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "This capsule is now self-hosted on an ESP32 development board (ESP32-DevKitC V4) connected to a phone charger and Wi-Fi." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/self-hosting-on-esp32.gmi

↺ gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/self-hosting-on-esp32.gmi

08:34 Techrights-sec2; both are common, but the former is ubquitous; businesses have maneuvered

08:34 Techrights-sec2; society into being pure misery for most adults and for all kids

08:34 Techrights-sec2; and it's worse for the kids because they have not learned to lie to themselves

08:34 Techrights-sec2; about their situation

08:34 Techrights-sec2; then looking ahead they see only trouble, at best

08:34 Techrights-sec2; we're in a situation now where "TikTok" (chinese business) and other social

08:34 Techrights-sec2; control media companies determine what is culture these days, not the other

08:34 Techrights-sec2; way around

08:34 Techrights-sec2; up until the 1980s the businesses (tv and such) reflected society and society

08:34 Techrights-sec2; and culture were determined by the population sort of organically

08:34 Techrights-sec2; now it's a top-down model

08:34 Techrights-sec2; anyway, the tech part of that is the abuse of addictive models via social

08:34 Techrights-sec2; control media to weaken and steer large volumes of individuals

08:34 Techrights-sec2; ESP32 is quite weak, it can barely handle the encryption necessary for the

08:34 Techrights-sec2; protocol and will crap out on the wireless quite often; though in all fairness

08:34 Techrights-sec2; WiFi is unsuitable even for general purpose computers and would be best

08:34 Techrights-sec2; removed and replaced with a completely different approach

08:37 schestowitz-TR; my pi is still on wired, a 'short leash' literally almost

08:37 schestowitz-TR; 1.2 m iirc

08:37 schestowitz-TR; i have other, longer cords

08:37 schestowitz-TR; but the reason isn't wifi being reliable only part of the time (it is actually very

08:37 schestowitz-TR; reliable here since the upgrades)

08:38 schestowitz-TR; the issue is the kernel I think

08:50 Techrights-sec2; wired is a lot faster

08:50 Techrights-sec2; if stuff is not moving around physically then wired connections are much less

08:50 Techrights-sec2; of a hassle and worth the speed increase

08:53 schestowitz-TR; I already told rianne twice that the pi won't be going back upstairs even when the wifi/kernel thing is tackled and it's wintertime (warmer

08:53 schestowitz-TR; upstairs, I might move back there in October)

08:53 schestowitz-TR; but the reason was not speed; it's just that I configures the scripts and the router for the wired setup, which is treated as separate from

08:53 schestowitz-TR; wifi

08:53 schestowitz-TR; and anyway I've learned to mostly ignore alerts on it and there is no screen attached.

08:53 schestowitz-TR; we used to have an alaer for when irc scrollback over gemini:// did not update

08:53 schestowitz-TR; I don't think this has been a problem for a while now...

08:53 schestowitz-TR; I'm about to hand over at work (9am)

08:56 Techrights-sec2; ack

08:56 schestowitz-TR; "head of Microsoft Philanthropies" = head of a crime syndicate disguised as a charity, much like the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/3-5-million-cyber-security-jobs-will-open-up-by-2025/92447785 | Source: India Times

↺ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/3-5-million-cyber-security-jobs-will-open-up-by-2025/92447785

08:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | 3.5 Million Cyber Security Jobs Will Open Up By 2025, CIO News, ET CIO

08:57 schestowitz-TR; without any additional comments I think that link might not send the right mesage


9 AM, June 26

09:00 Techrights-sec2; ok

09:00 Techrights-sec2; their approach to "security" is job security (for them alone) and not actual

09:00 Techrights-sec2; computer security

09:01 schestowitz-TR; I shgall quote that

09:10 schestowitz-TR; I am greateful that it has not been too hot so far this year, but we do need more rain to avoid yellowing

09:10 schestowitz-TR; water shortages became a frequent theme in recent years

09:10 schestowitz-TR; 2018, 2021, maybe this year also

09:48 schestowitz-TR; in one word, is the oslo shooter an incel loser or a jihadist? the name alone says.

09:49 Techrights-sec2; jihadist

09:56 schestowitz-TR; one article I saw said "hate crime" in the headline

09:56 schestowitz-TR; that is technically correct


10 AM, June 26

10:00 Techrights-sec2; by the way is there a link to the "original" joe rogan clip with RMS?

10:01 Techrights-sec2; what is the origin / source then?

10:01 schestowitz-TR; no, it was alwasy a cip of the whole

10:01 schestowitz-TR; so iow, I don't even have a link for the original

10:01 schestowitz-TR; I got the clip from yewtu.be

10:01 schestowitz-TR; it's like a spamnil, someone who uploads clips or portions of clips

10:02 Techrights-sec2; hmm suspicious

10:03 schestowitz-TR; speaking of spamnil, I checked this monring, no clickfraud storm for 3 weeks now

10:03 schestowitz-TR; maybe if called out on it he will hesitate

10:04 Techrights-sec2; I found the clip in youtube but there is no link to an original it seems

10:04 Techrights-sec2; like a composite

10:04 Techrights-sec2; spamnil is only around because of LF money

10:05 schestowitz-TR; go upstream

10:05 schestowitz-TR; LF is around because of [...] money

10:06 schestowitz-TR; and just like LF, he does this 'work' (PR/spam) on a 'Mac' with proprietary junk

10:06 schestowitz-TR; while some sign that says "Linux" hangs behind his back

10:06 schestowitz-TR; devaluing the brand

10:28 schestowitz-TR; minor (not important): for two weks now varghese had little output other than phone "reviews"

10:28 schestowitz-TR; nothing indicates he got these as gifts

10:28 schestowitz-TR; the editor is listed as stan beer again (he owns the site afaik)

10:28 schestowitz-TR; he took some shots in his home

10:28 schestowitz-TR; seems modest

10:28 schestowitz-TR; but I wish he would focus on rebuttals to FUD and corporate abuse

10:28 schestowitz-TR; after he attacked RMS I didn't see much good output from him

10:28 schestowitz-TR; seldom, some rebuttals to security FUSD

10:28 schestowitz-TR; and some puff pieces for Debian, which he likes

10:29 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Phoronix continues jumping the shark. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CBL-Mariner-2.0-June-2022

↺ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CBL-Mariner-2.0-June-2022

10:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft's CBL-Mariner 2.0 Linux Distro Now Supports Kernel Live Patching, PXE Boot - Phoronix


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noon, June 26

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1 PM, June 26

13:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> The acronym "FLOSS" is being hijacked https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28776

↺ https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28776

13:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center

13:35 schestowitz-TR; spamnil does not know what "coming out" means; don't even try to say he's brown-nosing corporations

13:35 schestowitz-TR; he might not understand what that means

13:44 Techrights-sec2; ack

13:44 Techrights-sec2; I see no reason too look at his drivel

13:44 schestowitz-TR; as you said, it can be off-putting and harm the image of things

13:44 Techrights-sec2; s/at/for/

13:44 Techrights-sec2; that is why he is hired, imho

13:44 Techrights-sec2; to get people to sour on the brand

13:53 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> After taking Cardano money, plus Dreck Hondahl's new job, the LF nowadays increasingly associates "Linux" with NFT and other scams. by boosting "crypto" crap and cargo cults it lends to this idea that Linux is a "crank" thing...


2 PM, June 26

14:16 Techrights-sec2; yep

14:16 Techrights-sec2; again, to get people ot sour on the trademark

14:45 schestowitz-TR; you will probablt tell me it's holiday

14:45 schestowitz-TR; or was a holiday

14:45 schestowitz-TR; but seriously, even my blog feed barely yeidl anything the past 3-4 days

14:45 schestowitz-TR; very very sparse

14:45 schestowitz-TR; it's partly why I slept so much

14:45 schestowitz-TR; I clean the feeds very fast

14:46 Techrights-sec2; yes it's been getting sparser; it's not just the holiday but the holiday was

14:46 Techrights-sec2; probably used to time the ramp down

14:48 schestowitz-TR; a lot of these are not news sites per se but blogs of people

14:48 schestowitz-TR; they too seem to have taken the foot off the pedal

14:48 schestowitz-TR; and without an inflow of information it is difficult to produce output

14:48 schestowitz-TR; the "blank page syndrome" was not an issue eyars ago, there was just a lack of time to cover all the important things

14:48 schestowitz-TR; even the "planets" of distros are reletively stale

14:48 schestowitz-TR; technically everything works

14:48 schestowitz-TR; but nobody is producing

14:48 Techrights-sec2; ack

14:48 Techrights-sec2; that's separate from the general news slowdow in some ways

14:48 Techrights-sec2; private individuals are ramping down, too

14:52 schestowitz-TR; I need to adjust or reconsider a bit how I cover feeds, or add new ones, of new set of filters to run through the general newss sites

14:52 schestowitz-TR; gulag noise was getting far too messy

14:52 schestowitz-TR; I really should have already abandoned it more than a year ago

14:52 schestowitz-TR; it was angst, strife, and timewasting most of the time

14:52 schestowitz-TR; for the mere chanc of finding the silver needle

14:52 schestowitz-TR; until 2019 (IIRC) I also searched for "open source" news and it ended up mainly openwashing, spam/PR, and mindless junk that

14:52 schestowitz-TR; does not even resemble journalism

14:53 schestowitz-TR; it had already gone downhill by then

14:53 schestowitz-TR; if it were not for tuxmachines, I'd likely have adopted another strategy or catch-words

14:53 schestowitz-TR; not that "Linux" gets us good ratio, esp. as there's this parasite called "LF"

14:53 schestowitz-TR; So I get vaccine news and "crypto" news and shit

14:53 schestowitz-TR; even in yewtu.be

14:53 schestowitz-TR; today I searched torvalds

14:53 schestowitz-TR; and got a ton of "crypto" junk from the past week

14:54 Techrights-sec2; Google News has such a low yield of relevant links that I find it hard to

14:54 Techrights-sec2; imagine that many people still use it even out of inertia; I certainly can't

14:54 Techrights-sec2; imagine that new people would begin using it since it is just crap

14:54 Techrights-sec2; the keyword "Linux" is attached to all kinds of crap unrelated to the actual

14:54 Techrights-sec2; topic of Linux, kernels, and similar

14:54 Techrights-sec2; I'm not sure what to say other than to comiserate

14:57 schestowitz-TR; worse yet, you saw LINUX.COM

14:57 schestowitz-TR; you get things like family stories and work police and...

14:57 schestowitz-TR; going under the word "Linux"... somehow

14:57 schestowitz-TR; Dan Allowing (WHiting) has no clue what Linux is

14:58 schestowitz-TR; and somehow he is now editor of that site

14:58 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of blacklash around 2008 when editor of LinuxInsider turned out not to be a Linux user

14:58 schestowitz-TR; *backlash

14:58 schestowitz-TR; nowadays "Linux" Insider produces lots of stenography for LF

14:58 schestowitz-TR; as if did a few days ago, too

14:58 schestowitz-TR; in fact, a high % of its "stories" there are LF fluff

14:58 schestowitz-TR; so that's another "Linux"-themed domain they got under their thumb

14:58 schestowitz-TR; like FOSS "Force"

14:58 Techrights-sec2; ack

14:58 Techrights-sec2; I haven't seen anything relevant at LinuxInsider for years


3 PM, June 26

15:01 schestowitz-TR; it is mostly one man left

15:01 schestowitz-TR; jack

15:01 schestowitz-TR; and he used to do distro reviews and decet material

15:01 schestowitz-TR; now he barely posts once a week

15:01 schestowitz-TR; usually when LF "commissions" something or has event

15:01 schestowitz-TR; he would maybe writ e review about once a month

15:01 schestowitz-TR; I can guess which one pays the salary, however low

15:01 schestowitz-TR; he looks like roughly retirement age

15:01 schestowitz-TR; SJVN had a major operation

15:01 schestowitz-TR; they had to split open his back

15:01 schestowitz-TR; so zemlin can insert big giant Microsoft coins

15:01 schestowitz-TR; they called him "Zoltan"

15:05 schestowitz-TR; back in ~2005-06 Yahoo News wasn't too bad either

15:05 schestowitz-TR; what's left of the remnants of that is just a press releases farm

15:05 schestowitz-TR; worse than worthless

15:05 schestowitz-TR; back then there was far too much news... more than one person could properly keep up with

15:05 schestowitz-TR; even just on a narrow range of topics

15:08 schestowitz; LONG COVID is really something... https://lunduke.substack.com/p/google-pulls-plug-on-sentient-ai

↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/google-pulls-plug-on-sentient-ai

15:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | Google pulls plug on "Sentient A.I." after it begins using Arch Linux

15:48 Techrights-sec2; I don't suppose Lunduke is likely to recover, it it's gone on this log

15:48 Techrights-sec2; ^long

15:48 Techrights-sec2; maybe he feels compelled to play to a fringe audience

15:50 schestowitz-TR; I've managed to scoop another 8 picks or so from a list of URLs I cannot possibly get in RSS form so check manually once a week

15:50 schestowitz-TR; mostly search results page or author pages

15:50 schestowitz-TR; I have code for detecting changes in the page, but RSS does a lot more than flag changes

15:55 Techrights-sec2; ack


4 PM, June 26

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16:28 schestowitz; [16:25] <SaphirJD> One question, would it be possible to manually drop my old nick so i could register it new?

16:28 schestowitz; MinceR: I think you did something like this before?

16:28 schestowitz; for leah?

16:30 MinceR; i have done it for something, yes

16:30 MinceR; i'm not quite sure what worked

16:31 MinceR; because just dropping the account keeps the nick unusable

16:31 MinceR; maybe someone who has access can reconfigure ergo so it doesn't hold on to dropped nicks like that

16:31 MinceR; at least i think it would be an improvement

16:32 SaphirJD; well if it does not work, its ok too

16:33 SaphirJD; i simply keep this nick then

16:33 MinceR; looks like it was nickserv sadrop and nickserv erase

16:33 MinceR; but i'm not sure if there was some additional complication

16:35 schestowitz-TR; btw, I've just made full backup of ircd

16:35 schestowitz-TR; I'm looking into this

16:35 SaphirJD; as far as i can see this network requires sasl authentication if one registers a nick, so dropping it, re-registering it and login with sasl should work then

16:35 schestowitz-TR; gives me a change to make a backup anyway

16:35 schestowitz-TR; *chance

16:36 SaphirJD; anyway, my old nick i would love to own again was Saphir - i registered it in 2021

16:36 schestowitz-TR; in our db we have saphir

16:36 schestowitz-TR; and sphirJD

16:36 schestowitz-TR; which one do you want?

16:36 SaphirJD; Saphir :)

16:37 schestowitz-TR; the passwors is hashed

16:37 schestowitz-TR; as it should be

16:38 MinceR; seems to me i'm logging in fine without SASL

16:38 SaphirJD; well for me /nickserv identify password does not work, i only can login over sasl

16:38 schestowitz-TR; there is also sapphir

16:39 SaphirJD; oh my....Also from me, i registered 2 times - but as i was unable to use my accounts as said, i moved away and did not visit here anymore :D

16:39 schestowitz; ircd:/home/ircd/ergo# grep exists ircd.db | wc -l

16:40 schestowitz; 193

16:40 SaphirJD; anyway, i really would be thankful if it would be possible to use Saphir again

16:40 schestowitz; anyway, with hashes there I cannot send you your password

16:40 schestowitz; nor should I be able to

16:40 schestowitz; so that's OK

16:40 SaphirJD; well the simplest method would be to drop the nick as said, that should be possible

16:42 SaphirJD; https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/irc/nickserv.go - perhaps this does help, there is the command unregister and erase

↺ https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/irc/nickserv.go

16:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ergo/nickserv.go at master ergochat/ergo GitHub

16:43 SaphirJD; toquote - ERASE deletes all records of an account, allowing it to be re-registered.

16:48 schestowitz-TR; I'd do it if our irc guru was available online

16:48 schestowitz-TR; just in case it goes wrong

16:48 schestowitz-TR; she knows the ins and outs of ergodb

16:49 schestowitz-TR; ergoirc

16:49 SaphirJD; unrgister and erase shold do no damage, as it just wipes out the specified account, its just the admin variant of the user drop command

16:50 SaphirJD; theoretically even a /msg nickserv drop Saphir should be doing its job :D

16:50 SaphirJD; as an admin must be theoretically be able to do that without requiring the user password


5 PM, June 26

17:01 schestowitz; [17:01] [Notice] -NickServ- Could not ungroup nick

17:01 schestowitz; anyway, it does not matte rmuch

17:04 Techrights-sec2; ack

17:24 schestowitz; "Extreme" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H3GwiZeM9_8

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H3GwiZeM9_8

17:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Are software patents evil? #askbastian - Invidious

17:24 schestowitz; he lives in fantasy land

17:44 schestowitz-TR; shallow people who charge 3000 euros an hour

17:44 schestowitz-TR; 300 up

17:44 schestowitz-TR; for shady practices

17:44 schestowitz-TR; wilcommen deutschland

17:44 schestowitz-TR; *kommen

17:44 Techrights-sec2; checking

17:44 Techrights-sec2; :(

17:53 Techrights-sec2; ack

17:53 schestowitz-TR; seems like our nazi 'friend' is now known as "alf"

17:56 Techrights-sec2; :/

17:56 Techrights-sec2; nymshifting

17:56 schestowitz-TR; of cause [sic] !!


6 PM, June 26

18:01 schestowitz-TR; what is the word for an incel who gets rejectd from the job market rather than women (or both)?

18:01 Techrights-sec2; not sure, a microsofter?

18:05 schestowitz-TR; off-topic-ish speculation:

18:05 schestowitz-TR; freom what IU saw of Micosofters

18:05 schestowitz-TR; they're not very bright engineers not very good kids either

18:05 schestowitz-TR; they overcompensate by pursuit of moneyh

18:05 schestowitz-TR; they don't care if the company is evil either

18:05 schestowitz-TR; and in job interviiew type Z looks for type Zs

18:05 schestowitz-TR; so you end up with a bunch of money obsessed drones who aren't even particularly

18:05 schestowitz-TR; good at programming

18:05 schestowitz-TR; nor at other disciplines

18:05 schestowitz-TR; you get a blank stare if you try to explain SF to them

18:05 schestowitz-TR; like RMS tried

18:05 schestowitz-TR; very naive

18:05 schestowitz-TR; all to lose

18:05 schestowitz-TR; nothing to gain

18:06 schestowitz-TR; if he thought Microsoft would take suggestion from RMS

18:06 schestowitz-TR; Jesus: "yo Romans! Did I tell you the story about... ouch!! Stop poking me"

18:06 schestowitz-TR; I remember Assange joking about him being made head of NSA or CIA or something

18:06 schestowitz-TR; we ended up doing private communication about how tactless that "joke" was

18:06 schestowitz-TR; nope

18:06 schestowitz-TR; and dishonest as hell

18:06 schestowitz-TR; on average

18:06 schestowitz-TR; the job selects for and cultivates sociopaths

18:06 schestowitz-TR; their technical skills tend to be minimal as with their general education

18:06 Techrights-sec2; nope

18:06 Techrights-sec2; and dishonest as hell

18:06 Techrights-sec2; on average

18:06 Techrights-sec2; the job selects for and cultivates sociopaths

18:06 Techrights-sec2; their technical skills tend to be minimal as with their general education

18:06 schestowitz-TR; the real damage comes from the marketing arm known as "Microsoft Research"

18:06 Techrights-sec2; the real damage comes from the marketing arm known as "Microsoft Research"

18:06 schestowitz-TR; which dangles chump change in front of starving graduate students in exchange

18:06 Techrights-sec2; which dangles chump change in front of starving graduate students in exchange

18:06 schestowitz-TR; for selling out as well as stamping M$ at the end of the authors' list

18:06 schestowitz-TR; ack

18:06 Techrights-sec2; for selling out as well as stamping M$ at the end of the authors' list

18:06 schestowitz-TR; ack

18:06 Techrights-sec2; ack

18:06 Techrights-sec2; ack

18:17 schestowitz-TR; Gulag goes down a similar route for image restitution

18:17 schestowitz-TR; but not to the same extent

18:17 schestowitz-TR; the problem is also the uni administraors that allow this

18:17 schestowitz-TR; their eyes are a pair of dollar signs

18:17 schestowitz-TR; many are not skilled in sciences

18:17 schestowitz-TR; they are appointed on the basis of pseudoscience diplomas

18:17 schestowitz-TR; like the epo shurning out many fake patents they strive to have many fake graduates

18:17 schestowitz-TR; and their risk, to them, isn't running afoul but getting caught or perception changing

18:29 schestowitz; [03:13] <Source> Or like Alex Weaponized his alcoholism to not be held accountable because it makes him sad and want to drink[03:13]

18:29 schestowitz; * schestowitz rarely drinks

18:29 schestowitz; [03:14] <Source> Alex's friends got together and held an intervention for his addictions

18:29 schestowitz; [03:14] <Source> But they won't do the same thing for something that's about to send him to prison

18:29 schestowitz; [03:15] <Source> And please don't quote anything I've said in here

18:29 schestowitz; [03:15] <schestowitz> I won't

18:29 schestowitz; [03:15] <Source> I am completely open to the idea that Alex has some sort of personality disorder that needs treatment and that can be forgiven

18:29 schestowitz; [03:16] <schestowitz> oh, wait

18:30 schestowitz; [03:16] <Source> but what has been probably the worst part of the situation is the number of people that are bystanders

18:30 schestowitz; [03:16] <schestowitz> a few times I read that alex jones

18:30 schestowitz; [03:16] <schestowitz> so maybe I responded based on this false assumption

18:30 schestowitz; [03:16] <Source> Oh no I haven't been talking about Alex Jones at all since the part about the cyborgs

18:30 schestowitz; [03:16] <Source> I think it's a funny idea with a grain of truth

18:30 schestowitz; [03:19] <Source> You know it's like a humanity is scrambling to get on a life boat that is eternal life

18:30 schestowitz; [03:19] <schestowitz> well, not a new concept

18:30 schestowitz; [03:19] <schestowitz> like kings in egypt with their tombs

18:30 schestowitz; [03:19] <schestowitz> they end up in some museums, at best...

18:30 schestowitz; [03:20] <schestowitz> power for a humsn is temporary

18:30 schestowitz; [03:20] <Source> I'm sure they'll look at cryogenics the same way in the future

18:30 schestowitz; [03:20] <schestowitz> unused wealth is of no use

18:30 schestowitz; [03:21] <Source> What are you by the man that has everything?

18:30 schestowitz; [03:21] <Source> Eternal life

18:30 schestowitz; [03:21] <Source> Eli doesn't even try to hide it

18:30 schestowitz; [03:21] <Source> Elon

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <schestowitz> ah

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <schestowitz> btw

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <schestowitz> watch this video:

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <schestowitz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU

18:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU

↺ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <schestowitz> worth the time

18:30 schestowitz; [03:22] <Source> A Google product ?!!? [03:22] <Source> How shocking[03:23] <Source> You surprise me lol[03:23] <schestowitz> no

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <schestowitz> I was going to send another link

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <schestowitz> then thought

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <schestowitz> OK, give youtube URL

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <schestowitz> I boycott youtube

18:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU )

↺ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=Dkix4UzEbjU

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <schestowitz> I wrote code to bypass it

18:30 schestowitz; [03:23] <Source> That's cool

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <Source> I mean you can kind of do that on DuckDuckGo if they don't have whatever you think is wrong with them

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <schestowitz> DDG seems to be quasi proxy of Microsoft

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <schestowitz> I said it a decade+ ago

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <schestowitz> now we have more solid evidence

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <Source> Yeah brave got in trouble recently

18:30 schestowitz; [03:24] <Source> Forgot what they did wrong

18:30 schestowitz; [03:25] <Source> It was really bad though like exposing an IP address or some thing

18:30 schestowitz; [03:25] <schestowitz> With a whistleblower we exposed Startpage http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage

http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage

18:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights

18:30 schestowitz; [03:25] <schestowitz> Brave are dodgy folks

18:30 schestowitz; [03:25] <Source> MobileCoin is live

18:30 schestowitz; [03:25] <schestowitz> all those cryptocurrency charlatans with right-wing leanings or similar

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20:27 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> 1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and It's Not Over) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/26/covid-19-not-over/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/26/covid-19-not-over/

20:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive 1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and Its Not Over)

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