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beginning of new day, February 26

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2 AM, February 26

02:44 Techrights-sec; systemctl status cron

02:44 Techrights-sec; lots of /home/gemini/bin/gemini-latest-videos.sh

02:46 Techrights-sec; perhaps

02:46 Techrights-sec; systemctl restart cron

02:46 Techrights-sec; is needed?

02:47 schestowitz-TR; done

02:48 Techrights-sec; hmm still loads of /home/gemini/bin/gemini-latest-videos.sh there,

02:48 Techrights-sec; I wonder how to clean them out

02:48 Techrights-sec; pkill -x CRON

02:48 Techrights-sec; ?

02:48 Techrights-sec; then systemd unit ought to resume

02:51 schestowitz-TR; i tail -f syslog

02:51 schestowitz-TR; seems likely you arer seeing past runs for cron

02:51 schestowitz-TR; i see mostly gemini activity

02:51 Techrights-sec; it looks like they have not finished and are hanging around

02:53 schestowitz; killall gemini-latest-videos.sh has eliminated many, but ffprobe remains

02:54 Techrights-sec; stuff from days ago:

02:54 Techrights-sec; ps -p $(systemctl status cron | grep CRON | grep -o -P '\d+' | tr '\n' ',' | sed

02:54 Techrights-sec; 's/,$//') -o pid,user,start,args

02:54 Techrights-sec; probably timeouts are needed in all the scripts

02:54 Techrights-sec; ack

02:55 schestowitz-TR; sleep now, very tired

02:55 schestowitz-TR; ukraine thing ansd work at home and outdoors left me nom time for vvideos

02:55 schestowitz-TR; and essays

02:55 schestowitz-TR; but will make up tomorrow


3 AM, February 26

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4 AM, February 26

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5 AM, February 26

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6 AM, February 26

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7 AM, February 26

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8 AM, February 26

08:27 schestowitz-TR; the official gemini site is still offline this morning

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08:54 Techrights-sec; how many days has it been gone, it's been quite a while now

08:54 Techrights-sec; how many days has it been gone, it's been quite a while now

08:55 schestowitz-TR; I have not been counting

08:55 schestowitz-TR; but it can contribute to FUD about the project

08:55 schestowitz-TR; whose paricipants hardly have a plce to spoeak

08:55 schestowitz-TR; I have not been counting

08:55 schestowitz-TR; but it can contribute to FUD about the project

08:55 schestowitz-TR; whose paricipants hardly have a plce to spoeak

08:56 Techrights-sec; Agreed.

08:57 schestowitz-TR; but is is so decentralised on many levels

08:57 schestowitz-TR; with the Web, removing some sites or schema

08:57 schestowitz-TR; would break some pages

08:57 schestowitz-TR; due to the nature of one site

08:57 schestowitz-TR; depending on many others


9 AM, February 26

09:10 Techrights-sec; The important part is adherence to the standard

09:10 Techrights-sec; The important part is adherence to the standard


10 AM, February 26

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10:08 Techrights-sec; yes, he and Moscow Mitch and many others of their ilk are/were on the payroll

10:08 Techrights-sec; some of that is coming to light, albeit too slowly and too late

10:08 Techrights-sec; RT and Sputnik are no longer viable, they are propaganda with a carrier signal

10:08 Techrights-sec; of news. It's not worth trying to cherry pick because that just lends credibilit

10:08 Techrights-sec; y to their drivel

10:08 schestowitz-TR; otr

10:08 schestowitz-TR; ukraine tech video

10:08 schestowitz-TR; ota

10:34 schestowitz-TR; i will have a draft soon

10:34 schestowitz-TR; mom got covid last night


11 AM, February 26

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11:03 schestowitz-TR; draft

11:05 schestowitz; x https://www.computerworld.com/article/3505976/slack-vs-teams-which-is-best-for-your-business.html

↺ https://www.computerworld.com/article/3505976/slack-vs-teams-which-is-best-for-your-business.html

11:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Slack vs. Teams: Which is best for your business? | Computerworld

11:06 schestowitz; x https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651491/cisco-ids-top-2022-security-threats-and-what-to-do-about-them.html

↺ https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651491/cisco-ids-top-2022-security-threats-and-what-to-do-about-them.html

11:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.networkworld.com | Cisco IDs top 2022 security threats and what to do about them | Network World

11:07 schestowitz-TR; I hope she does not have serious damage from it.

11:07 schestowitz-TR; Checking draft.

11:07 schestowitz-TR; The "phones" are even more dangerous than Windows, for many reasons, including

11:07 schestowitz-TR; lack of security but also through how the towers track the signals. Probably

11:07 schestowitz-TR; many troops on both sides have smuggled such tracking devices into the field.

11:07 schestowitz-TR; Then there is the mysterious baseband processor which only the bad actors and

11:07 schestowitz-TR; a few manufacturers have access to.

11:15 Techrights-sec; Even though both types of "smart" phone have subsumed a lot of FOSS technology

11:15 Techrights-sec; they are effectively closed, proprietary systems, especially Apple's.

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noon, February 26

12:05 Techrights-sec; ack

12:05 Techrights-sec; They're moving /to/ WordPress

12:05 schestowitz-TR; https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220224/16315648534/important-announcement-te

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220224/16315648534/important-announcement-te

12:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Important Announcement: Techdirt Is Migrating To A New Platform | Techdirt

12:05 schestowitz-TR; chdirt-is-migrating-to-new-platform.shtml

12:05 schestowitz-TR; Yes, I was just about to type that to you

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1 PM, February 26

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2 PM, February 26

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14:08 Techrights-sec; They're moving /to/ WordPress

14:08 Techrights-sec; crontab still not working on the RPi.

14:09 schestowitz-TR; now working at all?

14:09 schestowitz-TR; *not

14:11 Techrights-sec; I haven't checked all the items but at least two seem not to work.

14:11 Techrights-sec; I moved the latest addition to the start of the file and it still does not

14:11 Techrights-sec; run AFAIK

14:11 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/chat/

14:11 Techrights-sec; ### Last updated 2022-2-26 at 13:45 UTC

14:12 Techrights-sec; Intermittent.

14:12 Techrights-sec; gemini-make-feed.pl seems not to run at all

14:12 schestowitz-TR; chat not updating was likely my fault

14:12 schestowitz-TR; watch was running in a window too small

14:12 schestowitz-TR; it goes a line long every day

14:33 Techrights-sec; Most of the others seem to run.

14:33 Techrights-sec; The wiki gets updated, for example.


3 PM, February 26

15:26 Techrights-sec; more "tweets" in place of reliable news sources by mainstream media has

15:26 Techrights-sec; gotten much worse

15:27 schestowitz-TR; I've become more 'mean-spirited' towards social conterol media as a whole

15:27 schestowitz-TR; there is no assumption that people need to have a badsi understanding

15:27 schestowitz-TR; to comment on some subjects

15:27 schestowitz-TR; even stallman.org is full of guates'; guardian, soi I deleted that

15:27 schestowitz-TR; from my rss feeds

15:27 schestowitz-TR; I would rather read nothing at all about some topic than read bullshit about it

15:31 Techrights-sec; The misuse of tweets in place of news sources and in place of official

15:31 Techrights-sec; communicaton channels has worsened greatly. It is accepted as normal by

15:31 Techrights-sec; the "news" these days and not considered in light of its fundamental

15:31 Techrights-sec; drawbacks.

15:31 Techrights-sec; Unfortuantely the bullshit is all the news is starting to produce since they;ve

15:31 Techrights-sec; given on investigation. Also they are pushed into bullshit by (worst of all)

15:31 Techrights-sec; politicians and agencies which insist on makeing press statements via

15:31 Techrights-sec; social control media, perhaps even knowing full well that it is unreliable

15:31 Techrights-sec; afiltered and skewed.

15:31 Techrights-sec; Thus feeding the disinformation cycle.

15:33 schestowitz-TR; yes, exactly

15:33 schestowitz-TR; unlike you (I think(, I'm not all negatuive

15:33 schestowitz-TR; some decent news sources do exist

15:33 schestowitz-TR; they are not so well known

15:33 schestowitz-TR; and can be audited on the fly

15:33 schestowitz-TR; trhen rejected

15:33 schestowitz-TR; we do not need 1000 newsrooms

15:33 schestowitz-TR; the main issue then is,

15:33 schestowitz-TR; a lot of people around us are led to believe in BS

15:33 schestowitz-TR; even rianne

15:33 schestowitz-TR; who gets too much ""news" from gulagtube and billBC

15:33 schestowitz-TR; hence I was doing some fact checks lately

15:36 Techrights-sec; Ak

15:36 Techrights-sec; ack

15:36 Techrights-sec; my main complaint in the abobe is that the "news" articles from many services

15:36 Techrights-sec; have been leading in with "X tweeted that" or "X tweeted from their official

15:36 Techrights-sec; account that " and other sewage.

15:36 Techrights-sec; as everywhere else too

15:37 schestowitz-TR; I too write crap in social control media sometimes

15:37 schestowitz-TR; but I make it very clear, if typos do not give it aay,

15:37 schestowitz-TR; that theofficial messages are not in IRC

15:37 schestowitz-TR; or in some site that has hashtag

15:37 schestowitz-TR; the IRC channels have lately been devolving into russian/east euroe chat

15:37 schestowitz-TR; and that is not what techrights is actually about at all

15:37 schestowitz-TR; today I saw osnews adding a ukraine flag to their site's logo

15:37 schestowitz-TR; I doi not think their authors (still) have any connectiuon to that country

15:37 schestowitz-TR; those who i think were russian left ages ago

15:37 schestowitz-TR; some french diustro I nsaw yesterday (new release) added a message of

15:37 schestowitz-TR; solidarity toi the front page

15:38 Techrights-sec; "twactivism" is very empty, it has no effect

15:38 Techrights-sec; cutting of SWIFT would be a start but that's not "twactivism" or even activism

15:38 schestowitz-TR; every "like" receive is time wasting, not doing something that mibht

15:39 schestowitz-TR; actually have a real impact

15:40 schestowitz-TR; there was a US president (apparently) for 4 years who wrote lots of crap

15:40 schestowitz-TR; all hat crap vanished before he even finished his term

15:40 schestowitz-TR; but there was a lot of toxic residue in many peoplee's minds

15:48 Techrights-sec; ack

15:48 Techrights-sec; and social ccontol media, twitter in particular, fed off that anyway

15:49 schestowitz-TR; iirc, those were the only years Twitter ever temporarily made somem profit

15:50 Techrights-sec; annual or only quartely? I think only the latter happened.

15:50 schestowitz-TR; I did not check closely enough to see 4 consecutive quarters

15:51 schestowitz-TR; even in the weekend I still managed to scrape some actual Linux and BSD news off

15:51 schestowitz-TR; gulag noise

15:51 schestowitz-TR; as I am doing right now

15:51 schestowitz-TR; lately I've been adding some gemini links

15:51 schestowitz-TR; with the new software it'll be easier to find more of it

15:54 Techrights-sec; https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/TWTR/financials/annual/income-statement

↺ https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/TWTR/financials/annual/income-statement

15:54 Techrights-sec; It's been quite hard to find reall, bonafide BSD or GNuLinux news for a long

15:54 Techrights-sec; time

15:54 Techrights-sec; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/technology/twitter-earnings-4q-2021.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/10/technology/twitter-earnings-4q-2021.html

15:54 Techrights-sec; "Twitter also announced that its board had authorized a $4 billion buyback of its

15:54 Techrights-sec; stock."

15:54 Techrights-sec; Yes, you and Rianne have been doing a great job with TM. Fast and lots of

15:54 Techrights-sec; posts.

15:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TWTR | Twitter Inc. Annual Income Statement - WSJ

15:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | Twitter's Mixed Fourth-Quarter Earnings Show Challenges Ahead - The New York Times

15:54 Techrights-sec; https://time.com/4241716/twitter-losses-twtr/

↺ https://time.com/4241716/twitter-losses-twtr/

15:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Twitter Has Lost More Than $2 Billion in 10 Years | Time

15:55 schestowitz-TR; on monday we'll see techdirt's make-or-break migration

15:55 schestowitz-TR; ime, when sites do this it is a last gasp

15:55 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines will be OK as long as there is still a flow os info, even if

15:55 schestowitz-TR; it's just some developers' blog posts

15:55 schestowitz-TR; because gnu/linux users multiply (now many kde users on steam dreck)

15:55 schestowitz-TR; and they want to know what goes on

15:56 schestowitz-TR; Twitter exxists not for financial reasons

15:56 schestowitz-TR; similarlyly , Windows is part-time honeypot

15:56 schestowitz-TR; and anyone with a clue will NOT deploay a honeypot for critical infrA


4 PM, February 26

16:00 Techrights-sec; Not a honeypot, since it is impossible to contain. More like a digital

16:00 Techrights-sec; Chernobyl


7 PM, February 26

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19:21 schestowitz-TR; the arse-covering by the employer was worth mentioning

19:21 schestowitz-TR; but I could only share the cover letter

19:21 schestowitz-TR; they did a 120-page report investigating themselves

19:21 schestowitz-TR; so funny

19:21 schestowitz-TR; but this is what I wanted

19:21 schestowitz-TR; like with NHS last year

19:21 schestowitz-TR; they put a lot of effort into it

19:21 schestowitz-TR; just to defend themselves from my accusations, which still stand btw

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8 PM, February 26

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9 PM, February 26

21:24 Techrights-sec; how much of the 120 page report can be debunked?

21:26 schestowitz-TR; it was a typing error, I meant 10

21:26 schestowitz-TR; but still, it forced them to spend a lot of time/effort arse-covering

21:26 schestowitz-TR; and if still debbunkable

21:26 schestowitz-TR; I won't bother

21:26 schestowitz-TR; I have better things to do :-)

21:26 Techrights-sec; ok

21:26 Techrights-sec; ack

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