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01:30 schestowitz-TR2; bad news/good news
01:30 schestowitz-TR2; joindiapora is shutting down
01:30 schestowitz-TR2; unless someone saves it o r takes over, which tbh I doubt at this point
01:31 schestowitz-TR2; so I'm thinking... maybe I should quit Twitter soon, discontinue/shelve the account there
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03:52 Techrights-sec; if / when you shelve the twitter account do it with a long lead in and lots of
03:52 Techrights-sec; notice both there and on the web
03:52 schestowitz-TR2; first let's see if we can save joindiapora, that still seems achievable
03:53 schestowitz-TR2; tuxmachines relies on it also. for twitter, mastodon, tumblr
03:53 Techrights-sec; ok that would be best
03:53 Techrights-sec; wow
03:54 schestowitz-TR2; i feel a little guilty that over tyhe past 2 years I've not bveen keeping up with replies there (whereas the garbage I get in MINDS I did keepo up with)
03:55 Techrights-sec; sites like diaspora live or die based on usage
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; that and funds... so I've said publicly I would gladly help pay for my share of the usage. I did donate about 5 times in recent years.
03:56 Techrights-sec; ack
03:57 schestowitz-TR2; pulling out of it and everything it connects to may be gratifying ont he shallow
03:57 schestowitz-TR2; surface, but it is in essence, pulling a Lunduke, harming onself
04:00 Techrights-sec; lunduke seems to have gone off the deep end anyway
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04:28 Techrights-sec; If students build a Gemini client or server on OpenBSD, then
04:28 Techrights-sec; https://man.openbsd.org/pledge
04:28 Techrights-sec; https://man.openbsd.org/unveil
04:28 Techrights-sec; unveil(2) and pledge(2) would help in not just securing the results but
04:28 Techrights-sec; organizing their concept of the system
04:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-man.openbsd.org | pledge(2) - OpenBSD manual pages
04:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-man.openbsd.org | unveil(2) - OpenBSD manual pages
04:28 schestowitz-TR2; maybe you can tell that to A.F. who is the reason I enters mumble
04:29 schestowitz-TR2; can do multip-user call
04:39 Techrights-sec; ok
04:39 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure I'm articulate on the topic, I'm certainly barely knowledgable.
04:41 Techrights-sec; OpenBSD is well-suited for teaching doe to it's careful design, very clean
04:41 Techrights-sec; code base, and exquisite documentation.
05:27 schestowitz; re: sorry - spelling
05:27 schestowitz; > Coroner was not spelt correctly to begin with, it is fixed now
05:27 schestowitz; >
05:27 schestowitz; > In case anybody tries to create more hype, the report is not a leak:
05:27 schestowitz; > anybody can contact the coroner's office to ask for a copy.
05:27 schestowitz; >
05:27 schestowitz; > Some people are already madly trying to block the link from search
05:27 schestowitz; > results. This goes against the nature of a coroner's report. The
05:27 schestowitz; > coroner conducts hearings in public so that society can look at the
05:27 schestowitz; > circumstances and learn from them.
05:28 schestowitz; http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/160687
05:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Coroner's Report: Lucy Wayland & Debian Abuse Culture | Tux Machines
05:35 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
05:35 schestowitz; "
05:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/
05:35 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () As this isnt my first rodeo Ive been through a few platform migrations Ive learned a few things and can suggest priorities based on them.
05:35 schestowitz; Preserving your own continuity and data are the most straightford and high-probability-of-success steps you can take. They directly enable other courses of action in the future and maximise future options.
05:35 schestowitz; Attempting to salvage JoindiasporaCom at this point is a long shot and one that seems unlikely given present admin responses (effectively: none). I dont know why Lukas is unresponsive, only that he is.
05:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
05:35 schestowitz; Suggested Actions, In Order of Priority
05:35 schestowitz; Establish a new presence now. That ensures a presence going forward. Even if you ultimately choose not to use that profile, it is useful and a form of insurance.
05:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
05:35 schestowitz; Archive your existing posts. Profile Settings Export Data (https://joindiaspora.com/user/edit)
05:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
05:35 schestowitz; The back-end for importing posts to a new instance has been developed, the front-end has not. You should be able to re-import and re-host your old posts in future.
05:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-joindiaspora.com | JoinDiaspora* - Sign in
05:35 schestowitz; Consider spinning up your own instance / self-hosting. That was the promise of Diaspora* all along.
05:35 schestowitz; Work to see if JoindiapsporaCom itself can be salvaged. Given that Lukas Matt is highly unresponsive to requests, that seems like a long shot.
05:35 schestowitz; The first four steps, though, will ensure that your own profile and data continue to exist.
05:35 schestowitz; Archiving Data
05:35 schestowitz; You can also reasonably easily submit your own posts to the Internet Archives Wayback Machine once youve extracted the JSON archive. That requires both that youve created the archive AND that JoindiasporaCom is still online, so the sooner you create the archive the better. IAs Wayback Machine does not include comments in its archives so far as I can tell. But youll at least have the posts, and links elsewhere can be reasonably
05:35 schestowitz; easily reassociated with IAs copy.
05:35 schestowitz; (Ive detailed more of this at the Migration Issues post mentioned previously in this thread.)
05:35 schestowitz; Archive.Today will capture comments, but theres no bulk archive capability that Im aware of, posts must be individually submitted, and the site puts up frequent CAPTCHAs.
05:35 schestowitz; You can also take steps to ensure your old posts are federated across other Diaspora* and Fediverse instances, though in my experience this doesnt capture older comments.
05:35 schestowitz; How much value you find in comments and discussions on your old posts is for you to determine.
05:35 schestowitz; Your Call
05:35 schestowitz; Again: this is my acquired wisdom over time. Your actions are your call. But given options and outcomes, I strongly recommend you create a profile (or multiple profiles) elsewhere, announce those now, and start exporting your data if youve not already done so.
05:35 schestowitz; "
05:55 schestowitz; Thank you for the long message. For my account, migration is almost infeasible (cannot export content except photos) and I think we should strive to get stewardship for this pod, provided it can be passed over with data, login credentials etc. If someone is willing to help, and if Lukas isn't responding, contact me as I think Lukas is responsive to those not perceived to be wasting time. Lukas, can you reconsider for this one pod the plan to
05:55 schestowitz; disband if we can raise enough funds from enough users?
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09:58 schestowitz-TR2; restarting apache
09:58 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
09:58 schestowitz; "
09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/
09:58 schestowitz; @Dr. Roy Schestowitz () My experience was that ~2800 posts ran about 18 MB compressed.
09:58 schestowitz; Text should be much smaller than photos.
09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
09:58 schestowitz; If you do actually have 500k posts (about 16% of all posts on JD FWIW), youre probably looking at a few GB of total data if your post size patterns follow my own.
09:58 schestowitz; (2800 posts, 18 MB compressed 6.4 kB/post 3.2 GB for 500k posts, very roughly.)
09:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
09:58 schestowitz; As I recall, most of your content is linking to your own Techrights.org site, or otherwise link syndication. Relatively little is unique to JD, correct?
09:58 schestowitz; Again, your call.
09:59 schestowitz; Pavithran S
09:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
09:59 schestowitz; Pavithran S - about 2 hours ago
09:59 schestowitz; For my account, migration is almost infeasible (cannot export content except photos)
09:59 schestowitz; Same problem, Is it because Roy and me have very old accounts?
09:59 schestowitz; Pavithran S
09:59 schestowitz; Pavithran S - about 2 hours ago
09:59 schestowitz; This is frightening news to me. I spent almost 12 years posting (I think) about half a million posts here, made friends and connections here, still rely on it a great deal.
09:59 schestowitz; Yes it is frightening. I remember you had not just those posts which might be exported but worst of all the community and comments are all gone :(
09:59 schestowitz; **joe
09:59 schestowitz; **joe - about an hour ago
09:59 schestowitz; I wonder if @Maxwell Salzberg can help?
09:59 schestowitz; "
09:59 schestowitz; I do not have the option to export my data and either way, it would be a shame to throw away a working domain with maybe a million links leading to it, tons of Internet history. Let's save what exists already, using the existing domain. We can raise money...
10:02 schestowitz-TR2; almost 3 hours downtime?
10:08 schestowitz-TR2; ack
10:08 schestowitz-TR2; checking
10:08 schestowitz-TR2; It went out at just after 05:00, so yeah it was out and my )(*&^%$%^&* script
10:08 schestowitz-TR2; failed to squawk.
10:09 schestowitz; https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-lawful-interception-market-size-102100572.html
10:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-finance.yahoo.com | The global Lawful Interception Market size is expected to grow USD 3.5 billion in 2021 to USD 12.9 billion by 2026, at a Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of 29.3%
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; nothin major in messages
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; ok, some quick thoughts
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; moving to the coffee now
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; it was a small breaskfast
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; so let me just see first what happens with joindiapora
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; ftr, here is how it works:
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; i posted there since 2010 or 2011
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; prior to that it was identica, which was warning
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; instead of exporting from identica to twitter i started doing this from JD
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; JS is joindiapora
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; JD would expore later also to wordpress.com
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; tuxmachines was later inheriting the official linus account in JD
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; it then exporet to:
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; twitter
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; mastodon
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; tumblr
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; so JD became a 'firehose for 4 accounts of tuxmachines and 3 of TR
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; never mind Daily Links, IRC, schestowiutz.com copies etc.
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; if JD falls over, as several instances of gnusocial/mastodon/pleroma did (I
11:22 schestowitz-TR2; used all 3 for fediverse presence), then we might need to o rethink a lot
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; JD cutoff or deadlie is March 1st
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; only last night Lukas started advertising this in the front page of everyone
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; so I think it's a call for help or for someone to take over using a
11:23 schestowitz-TR2; bit of alarmism
11:24 Techrights-sec; I don't have the skill to program the backend, or the front end for that matter
11:25 Techrights-sec; tail -f /var/log/messages ?
11:25 schestowitz-TR2; -n something | more
11:26 schestowitz-TR2; I took a look, did not help me
11:26 schestowitz-TR2; Jan 26 11:23:46 techrights rc.local: ...
11:26 schestowitz-TR2; specifically
11:26 schestowitz-TR2; it's mirroring IRC or something?
11:27 Techrights-sec; Jan 26 11:23:46 techrights rc.local: ...
11:27 Techrights-sec; specifically
11:27 Techrights-sec; it's mirroring IRC or something?
11:27 schestowitz-TR2; this is ok
11:27 Techrights-sec; Is this script: /root/irc-all.sh noisy on stdout or stderr?
11:28 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, this is not that file but the IRC bot itself
11:28 schestowitz-TR2; it has 5 instances for 5 channels
11:29 Techrights-sec; right but something is putting IRC messages into /var/log/messages
11:31 Techrights-sec; tail -f /var/log/messages | awk '$5~/rc.local/'
11:31 schestowitz-TR2; i imagine that's just the way the bot are made and certainly not the cause of apa
11:32 schestowitz-TR2; che issues
11:32 schestowitz-TR2; I did not write this bot
11:32 Techrights-sec; ok, then we'll need >/dev/null 2>&1 there
11:33 schestowitz-TR2; yes, can you use mumble?
12:36 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaconing
12:36 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law
12:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Meaconing - Wikipedia
12:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Ex post facto law - Wikipedia
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12:56 schestowitz; https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896
12:56 schestowitz; "https://joindiaspora.com/posts/22282896"
12:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@podmin@joindiaspora.com: # Hello JoinDiaspora there is some unfortunate news to share. Feneas will be dissolved and as Joindiaspora is one of the services. JD will also be shut down on 1 March. This is unless we can find someone who wants to take over the service. If you think you can handle the task please contact us via [hq@feneas.org](mailto:hq@feneas.org). You can find the original post below or via https://git.feneas.org/feneas/
12:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2021-12-09.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
12:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | meetings/agm-minutes-2022-01-04.txt master Feneas / association GitLab
12:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> git.feneas.org | Feneas GitLab
12:56 schestowitz; "Yeah true, I am also willing to donate. I also have so many comments and discussions which I cherish from this pod."
12:58 schestowitz; I can think of many active users here, Glyn Moody, for example, who knowing the situation would join us in a fund-raising campaign. What's the annual hosting bill, aside from manual work associated with it (maintenance)? This pod is so important to me that I'm willing to share the cost of the bills and also help on the technical side gives access to machines...
13:10 schestowitz-TR2; thanks for the long chat btw, lots of stuff to think about, got tons of days off work next month, trying to sort out the JD situation and will prioritise as necessary to ensure we maintain maximal/positive impact
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13:21 schestowitz-TR2; just wrapped up Daily Links
13:21 schestowitz-TR2; will "OTA" in a moment
13:21 schestowitz-TR2; hope site will cope ok
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13:36 Techrights-sec; np
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13:51 schestowitz-TR2; done
13:51 schestowitz-TR2; while recording I spotted a permissions issue
13:51 schestowitz-TR2; the ipfs account cannot write to the page in gemini that presents the list of ipf
13:51 schestowitz-TR2; s hashes
13:51 Techrights-sec; ack
13:51 Techrights-sec; I've been thinking more about the system and that part of the reality is that
13:51 Techrights-sec; all systems have a built-in lifecycle. With CentOS 6 having passed its EOL,
13:51 Techrights-sec; in March we probably ought to make concrete plans and set a timeline for
13:51 Techrights-sec; migration.
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13:56 schestowitz-TR2; permission issue solved, will record another video
13:57 Techrights-sec; looking
13:57 Techrights-sec; The directory permissions need to be member of the group ipfslinks
13:57 Techrights-sec; Then g=wrxs for the directory.
13:57 Techrights-sec; Also I should be in the group gpio in order to use the ping_roy script
13:58 Techrights-sec; or make another group instead of ipfslinks and use that for xxxx and gemini to
13:58 Techrights-sec; share the directory.
13:58 Techrights-sec; excellent
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; yes, we will do somethign about the whole infra, it's a sham that we are using su
13:58 schestowitz-TR2; ch stale a stack
14:04 schestowitz; usermod -aG gpio you
14:04 Techrights-sec; ack
14:04 schestowitz-TR2; OTA
14:44 schestowitz-TR2; done
14:44 schestowitz-TR2; the current scripts help me make and process several video in conjunction
15:04 schestowitz-TR2; restarting apxche
15:12 schestowitz-TR2; see draft
15:12 Techrights-sec; it must have been out only a short time
15:12 Techrights-sec; ack
15:13 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I caught that within a minute while trying the article after the gemini one, with the video now preocessing while the first finishes the upload
15:14 schestowitz; Don't Fall for Microsoft's Spin That Everything is Not Secure and Cannot be Secured
15:14 schestowitz; your witty remarks can be integrated
15:14 schestowitz; I am still working on the text
15:14 Techrights-sec; The simplicity of both the Gemini protocol and Gemtext are what makes it
15:14 Techrights-sec; attractive for teaching, for it allows the students to focus on
15:14 Techrights-sec; the system. As you pointed out earlier.
15:17 schestowitz-TR2; I have just triggered the processing of video #1 as the first one is doing phase
15:17 schestowitz-TR2; 2 of upload
15:17 schestowitz-TR2; rianne has tuxmachines covered for now, along with marius et al
15:17 schestowitz-TR2; I work at 5:30
16:17 schestowitz-TR2; draft
16:17 schestowitz-TR2; upload in phase 1 now so you can start playing the first few mins of the video
16:17 schestowitz-TR2; am still editing the text a bit, adding refs
16:17 Techrights-sec; Rust is GitHub :(
16:18 schestowitz-TR2; Rust is security :-)
16:18 schestowitz-TR2; except when Rust itself has holes
16:39 Techrights-sec; apache seems stuck again
16:39 Techrights-sec; ah yes, small text ...
16:39 schestowitz-TR2; yes, who to restart, me or you?
16:39 schestowitz-TR2; wait
16:39 schestowitz-TR2; you are in tuxmachines
16:39 schestowitz-TR2; wait
16:39 schestowitz-TR2; wrong machine
16:41 Techrights-sec; firefox: The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
16:49 Techrights-sec; Any idea how long the Gemini mailing list will be out for?
16:49 schestowitz-TR2; official gemini capsule/site does not say when, only that it will be back
16:53 schestowitz-TR2; thanks
16:53 Techrights-sec; thanks
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21:03 Techrights-sec; had to restart httpd again
21:03 Techrights-sec; 17:38
21:03 Techrights-sec; load is quite high for httpd / php-fpm
21:03 Techrights-sec; one of the php-fpm processes was pushing 99% CPU utilization so I killed it
21:03 Techrights-sec; manually and the whole load dropped off quickly afterward. FYI
21:03 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, I'm back again
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22:49 schestowitz-TR2; restarting
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