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beginning of new day, October 25

00:33 schestowitz-TR2; good news, I'm off work till Sat

00:33 schestowitz-TR2; holiday belatedly approved


1 AM, October 25

01:04 *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed)

01:44 *starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving)


3 AM, October 25

03:00 *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving)

03:21 techrights-sec[2]; congratulations


4 AM, October 25

04:50 *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@raydbxn3n23s4.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

04:54 techrights-sec[2]; The video here: http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/rms-self-driving-cars/

http://techrights.org/2022/10/24/rms-self-driving-cars/

04:54 techrights-sec[2]; needs to be deleted because it is corrupt. Neither the audio nor the video

04:54 techrights-sec[2]; are viable.

04:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Self-Driving Cars and Microsofts Universal Back Door | Techrights

04:55 schestowitz-TR2; I tstedd in vlc and browsers

04:59 schestowitz-TR2; works in 7 media players and browsers here

04:59 techrights-sec[2]; It does not work in VLC here. Can you please re-check it from your end?

04:59 techrights-sec[2]; The file seems quite corrupt even though it is only one minute.

04:59 techrights-sec[2]; I;ve tried re-downloading it.

04:59 techrights-sec[2]; Try downloading it from TR


5 AM, October 25

05:06 techrights-sec[2]; No aspect of it works from here. :/

05:06 techrights-sec[2]; oh well

05:06 techrights-sec[2]; checking

05:06 schestowitz-TR2; i even can stream it in vlc using the url

05:06 schestowitz-TR2; did any prior clips of thhis kind have the same issue?

05:07 techrights-sec[2]; This one seems to be wholly missingth evideo link: http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/libre-software/

http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/libre-software/

05:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Richard Stallman on Libre Software | Techrights

05:07 techrights-sec[2]; this one seems completely ok: http://techrights.org/2022/09/14/rms-books/

http://techrights.org/2022/09/14/rms-books/

05:07 techrights-sec[2]; .

05:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Privacy-Respecting Book Loaning | Techrights

05:08 schestowitz-TR2; maybe the way I use ffmpeg is not just sub-optimal but bad

05:08 schestowitz-TR2; I think it slips it without re-encodingf

05:08 schestowitz-TR2; the fast and distry way

05:08 schestowitz-TR2; but it never caused problems at my end

05:08 techrights-sec[2]; probably

05:21 techrights-sec[2]; Well a spot check of the last three shows there may be something severly wrong

05:21 techrights-sec[2]; with the work flow. However, be that as it may, is there a URL for today's

05:21 techrights-sec[2]; talk in India by RMS?

05:21 schestowitz-TR2; just the introduction in text

05:21 schestowitz-TR2; but no video

05:22 techrights-sec[2]; Too bad. I would like to find out what his topic is and how he covered it.

05:22 schestowitz-TR2; the talk is about 7 hours from now

05:22 schestowitz-TR2; I reproduced the talk's abstract last night

05:24 techrights-sec[2]; yes. I saw. It seems that just 3 - 4 years ago institutions were much

05:24 techrights-sec[2]; better at streaming.


6 AM, October 25

06:06 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).

06:07 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

06:07 *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social

↺ http://TechRights.org

06:07 *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021

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7 AM, October 25

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; By the way, Chromium-based web browsers block access to https://techrights.org/

https://techrights.org/

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; with no means of allowing the self-signed certificate through.

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; Given what Baker is doing to Mozilla it is a matter of time before Firefox

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; also fully blocks self-signed certificates. From what I recall, Let's Encrypt

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; never got recognition as a Certificate Authority and are still using a dual

07:28 techrights-sec[2]; CA as a temporary work-around which seems to have become kind of permanent.

07:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights

07:32 schestowitz-TR2; got back to keyboard

07:32 schestowitz-TR2; all server went offline (reboot maybe)

07:32 schestowitz-TR2; lots to fix and test

07:32 schestowitz-TR2; brb

07:39 techrights-sec[2]; checking servers, nothing triggered here so the outage must have been short

07:39 techrights-sec[2]; about 1h30m ago HV turned over, same for the guests


8 AM, October 25

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08:11 schestowitz-TR2; oh, well done

08:11 schestowitz-TR2; the changes to cron persistent across startups/reboots

08:11 schestowitz-TR2; ipfs does not yet start automatically though, but that's OK

08:11 schestowitz-TR2; I think everything is back now

08:11 schestowitz-TR2; and the system updates apply following reboots, which were planned weeks ago

08:12 techrights-sec[2]; excellent

08:12 techrights-sec[2]; yes, that was a benefit and overdue

08:17 schestowitz-TR2; sorry I was slow to respond, just slept, got back, many terminals were 'dead'

08:17 schestowitz-TR2; regarding https, TR is never advertised with that protocol

08:17 schestowitz-TR2; some browsers try to be 'clever', even without extensions

08:22 techrights-sec[2]; Chromium is not just 'some', it is like 85+ % of the market.

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, finfish from gemma group *german) is still around under some other name

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; regarding, chrom* if given a http:// domain or address

08:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: domain; Unknown error ( status 0 @ http:// domain )

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; I hope it does not try to rewrite it

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; I heard tor browser used to do that

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; maybe also librewolf by default

08:24 schestowitz-TR2; *finfisher

08:47 techrights-sec[2]; ack

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; I will open email tonight

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; latest thunderbird made it a lto faster to open

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; like a big issued 6-7 years after the problem started

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; and that gives temptation to break workflow again

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; by letting mail get in there

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; better done in bulk

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; esp. when some mail is not pleasant

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; e.g. copyright troll

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; re mood-swinging etc, a mechanical mindset/thinking (like working in garden, following routine) can help

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; but that very much depends on the root causes, e.g. chamical or outside factor

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; re covid-19, tonight or this afternoon we'll have more figures of mortality

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; i've looked forward to these for days already as they can help validate a hypothesis

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; Prince Sunak thinks money can solve everything, like carpenters with their nails and glue

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; I joked to rianne that all food would be just one penny because she found a large milk for that price

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; for a moment she though I was serious

08:54 schestowitz-TR2; Sunak is the one behind "eat out, help out" in summer 2020 (the spread of covid-19 was curbed)

08:58 techrights-sec[2]; Sunak's appointment is not beneficial

08:59 schestowitz-TR2; my friend destroyed his heart with excessive or too hard exercise

08:59 schestowitz-TR2; he broke some rowing record and did not know it was ruining his main arteries

08:59 schestowitz-TR2; until this past February

08:59 schestowitz-TR2; when he experienced shock like never before (from the news, not any bodily event)


9 AM, October 25

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; so what he thought made him younger and would elongate his life did the opposite

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; same with my dad and his diving (he only realised when it was too late)

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; there is ample literature on how athletes don't like long

09:00 techrights-sec[2]; Tragic

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; and that depends on their discpline esp. intensity they subject themselves to

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; my philosophhy is, exercise but as less as it is enjoyable

09:00 schestowitz-TR2; *as long

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; (not so private:)

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; I have the following routines

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; stair climbing, very fast, sets of 5 floors

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; pushups/situps/lunges etc. (floor)

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; computer room: shotput ball various things, inc. squats and fast-box

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; no equipment, but after hiatus in lockdowns (2020, 2021) each time I returned to the gym

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; I could handle the machines OK

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; so loss of body mass or muscle erosion (like, from illness) is the main risk

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; I find walking and jogging routes around the stadium/academy

09:06 techrights-sec[2]; planes are just nasty by every metric

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; and a shop to make it worth the journey

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; i keep hearing of unhealth people or people whose relatives are not healthy

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; (rubenerd, mastodon.technology's ash, some people I know in person)

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; which can mandate dangerous mingling with covidiots

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; or boarding planes where isolation is infeasible

09:06 schestowitz-TR2; sans the "sanitation theatre"

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; "leg room" is never an issue until you board a plane, where they already (iirc) patent

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; the stuffing of passengers in standing position to save space

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; not even military planes do this

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; "excuse me, you two people in the middle and aisle, I have to go pee, do you mind waking up and walk to the

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; aisle for me, once when I leave and then again when I get back? That would be greeeeeatttttt"

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; [holds breath for 5 mins and walks away from "scene of the crime"]

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; they call this "lifestyle", "seeing the world", and boast about "air miles"

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; like debt (not debit) cards that are made 95% of plastic but say "Gold" or "Platinum" on them

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; to stroke the egos of the likes of Zemlin, who barely knows how to restart a service let alone

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; deliver a presentation from his Mac PC without it getting jammed

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; people who look down on those who don't participate in these 'rituals' aren't worthy of enagement

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; let them find their other career-climbing losers to waste their lives with

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; apropos, social control media is a driver of this toxic culture

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; and takes it out of the classroom and the mall, shoving it into the home 24/7

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; "the phone in the socket that never stops beeping"

09:13 techrights-sec[2]; yep

09:13 techrights-sec[2]; one improvement has been the cessation of smoking on the flights;

09:13 techrights-sec[2]; the whole plane was otherwise filled with smoke such that the ceiling was

09:13 techrights-sec[2]; hardly visisble

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; smoke in plane is a safety hazard

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; if someone cannot avoid a fag for 2-10 hours of flight, one is a junkie

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; and junkies don't belong on planes

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; we sat next to one for 5 hours, it was truly horrible and I wrote about it

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; btw, pay in academic has sunk and the atmosphere at the job became very bad

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; at one postdoc position I worked 10 hours a week and was paid just enough for bills and barely food

09:19 schestowitz-TR2; so they're eliminating jobs that don't resemlbe wage slavery, by lowing the pay and also making the job

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; less pleasant

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; they've taken disgnity out of teaching jobs; in hungary there was a 80,000-strong protest by teachers

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; Orban hates scholars and academia

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; those "f*ckers" don't vote for him, so "f*ck them!"

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; that protest was this week, I posted a link in irc about it minutes ago

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; it's not just us/gop issue

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; when I was intervewed her for postdoc job (last time, cirica 2012) one person was my phd mentor

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; and the other was some "business development" BS person. she knew NOTHING about science

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; it was just some useless "business" (so-called) person

09:20 schestowitz-TR2; like a university needs to juistify its existence now by making money!

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; back then everyone who smoked more or less chain smoked for the duration of the

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; flight

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; yes academic pay is below minimum wage at least in the US and there the minimum

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; is not even remotely livable

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; then there are the terrible work conditions and irrelevant make-work tasks

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; thrown on top of the real tasks

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; you're lukcy these days if the job is only 'less pleasant' most workplaces

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; aim to have a downright unpleasant and nasty environment.

09:21 techrights-sec[2]; 3

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09:22 techrights-sec[2]; yes you mentioned. they ruin everything like a business now:

09:22 techrights-sec[2]; into the ground and ask for a bailout

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; that is an excellent analogy actually

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; similar to ones I tell my parents about

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; I keep reminding them my sinblings accomplish nothing

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; they waste their lives making a bunch of sociopaths richer

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; regarding dotcom, put aside ".com" and say tech or tech-fascism

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; aside from those milking off the taxpayers' teat, like Microsoft,

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; many companies perish atm

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; they never had a viable plan, just "many users"

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; Netflix, Spotify (layoffs)

09:28 schestowitz-TR2; Twitter "overstaffed" (no shit! Running a pile ofm JS shit takes that many staff???)

09:29 schestowitz-TR2; thewy don't even do any real moderation or assess appeal; they overturn nothing, just like gulag

09:29 schestowitz-TR2; and in youtube they strip sound or remove stuff autonmously (real sorry! not out fault!!! bad,, bad HEY HI)

09:29 schestowitz-TR2; (many "tech" companies, even large ones, don't even have their own infra to look after, they're overcharged

09:29 schestowitz-TR2; by bezos or gulag or -- for idiots -- a clusterfuck full of layoffs called "azure" -- whatever that is)

09:30 techrights-sec[2]; thus the "underpants gnomes" meme

09:30 techrights-sec[2]; in youtube, people have gotten copyright strikes for playing their own

09:30 techrights-sec[2]; compositions as well as for playing classical pieces like Bach, Beethoven, etc

09:30 techrights-sec[2]; Most "tech" companies don't produce anything and aim for a buyout / IPO

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; how to run youtube channel in "modern" GoogleTube:

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; 1) don't have any music, just speech

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; 2) never curse, no matter the context

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; 3) don't touch certain subjects; if you do, make 25% of the video all about "YouTube Guidelines" to waste viewers

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; ' time and pray your foes won't twist your words out of context

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; 4) don't expect money, even if your audience grows (reminder: spamnil 9 views in 9 days)

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; 5) don't buy any equipment like lighting ane expensive camera/microphone gear; those WILL NOT pay for themselves

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; had long chat about related staff (kitchen talk)

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; this afternoon we might go check the nearby gym

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; to see how crowded it is at off-peak times

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; for next year, assuming we resume

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; not the same gym as before

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, offpeak membership is about 22.5 a month

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; maybe less for a pair

09:45 schestowitz-TR2; it's where the water polo team is training, two large pools

09:47 techrights-sec[2]; ack


10 AM, October 25

10:46 techrights-sec[2]; more Mastodon clients for the Fediverse are now javascript-only, that

10:46 techrights-sec[2]; sucks even more than before

10:46 techrights-sec[2]; I think I'll just delete the last of the bookmarks over that

10:46 techrights-sec[2]; to the various instances. So much for openness and inclusivity.

10:46 techrights-sec[2]; They suck.

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; you understimate the "sucness"

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; the instance I moved tuxmachines to

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; not only wants JS

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; it also rejects many "modern" browsers

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; or does not render correctly

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; but I spend no time there

10:49 techrights-sec[2]; I've been checking every other week from a few bookmarks, but no longer.

10:49 techrights-sec[2]; There were *very* few links posted there anyway though sometimes independent

10:49 techrights-sec[2]; searching could follow clues given in the comments to find stuff. Either way

10:49 techrights-sec[2]; though it was very, very low yield.

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; everything feels low yield compared to a decade ago

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes I check the 12 or so static pages I have in a list for weekends

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; 10 minutes spent for maybe 3 links

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; rss feeds are full of shit but fast to navigate

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; gulag noise is mostly stuff I already have direct feeds for

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; and not there is a level of indirection/spying in URLs

10:51 schestowitz-TR2; so I stopped refreshing that

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; The way things are going with the browsers as VMs we should not have the world

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; running Firefox or Chromium but simple Qemu or VirtualBox

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; Compare to a decade ago, journalism has been abandoned and even back then it

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; was kind of thin compared to the turn of the century.

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; RSS is 100s of times faster to navigate than regular web access but still

10:54 techrights-sec[2]; very very slow and time consuming to find anything worth quoting.

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; i have just been to the gym, checked the whole place upside down, in and out

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; it's not bad

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; at one point he suggested I "download the apo" for more info

10:54 schestowitz-TR2; I didn't say anything to that

10:55 techrights-sec[2]; Which are the key resources you would want to use there? If I understand

10:55 techrights-sec[2]; correctly you are big enough for waterpolo but that is probably too much

10:55 techrights-sec[2]; lung exhaust all around.

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; I could probably do the goalkeeping as I did that since a little kid till 20 (in soccer though)

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; but I checked it not for the pools but for gym, showers etc.

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; you have reminded me I need to check for replies, if any, in mastodon

10:57 schestowitz-TR2; that always felt like a chore


11 AM, October 25

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; just spent 5-10 mins checking comments

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; it was not time well spent

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; and thought me not much new

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; mostyl a lot of scrolling

11:03 schestowitz-TR2; irc is a lot more effective than these GUIs

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11:20 schestowitz-TR2; arbitrary thought: in the early 2000s I wrote articles differently

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; those were articles based on other articles

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; because journalism existed

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; in my text file I'd add my references with excerpts from them

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; not it is difficult

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; as even if there is coverage of some issue, usually there is only one source for it

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; rianne told me this morning about sites she noticed were dying, inc. techrepublic (spam)

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; I gave her some more examples (she reads similar feeds to me)

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; she then mentioned what happened tio IPFire (licence infringment)

11:20 schestowitz-TR2; I said to her that a decade ago there would be article about it, but not anyore

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; journalism was harmed by "famred" social control media and now that it goes away many rush to other

11:21 schestowitz-TR2; things that ebb away

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11:25 techrights-sec[2]; ack

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noon, October 25

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; Like forecast in the mid-1990s, the centralized nature of web-based publishing

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; ensures that whole decades worth of material vanishes at the pull of a plug

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; or the stroke of a key. Each site has one, and only one, copy. When that is

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; gone, it does not matter how many people were using it or how important or

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; relevant the material was, it is gone.

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; With paper copies, those were distributed and the recipient could decide (legally) whether to preserve their copi

12:12 techrights-sec[2]; es and for how long.

12:23 techrights-sec[2]; So, as web sites fade away, it becomes more and more important for individual

12:23 techrights-sec[2]; posts to stand on their own, with quotes and other supporting data self-

12:23 techrights-sec[2]; contained as possbile.

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12:53 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, fell asleep, got new data from ONS

12:53 schestowitz-TR2; spoiler: it's a shocker

12:53 schestowitz-TR2; grabbing alculator

12:53 techrights-sec[2]; np

12:53 techrights-sec[2]; ok

12:53 techrights-sec[2]; ack


1 PM, October 25

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; ffs

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; I think I see what the issue is with my site now

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; many CMS bits don't work at the back end or altogether

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; not just my blof

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; they probably "upgraded" PHP or something

13:31 schestowitz-TR2; maybe not as severe as I thought -- they're looking into it atm

13:45 schestowitz-TR2; i was right, it was php versions

13:45 schestowitz-TR2; seems to be settled now

13:45 schestowitz-TR2; they set my account to old compat mode

13:45 schestowitz-TR2; php is messy business

13:45 schestowitz-TR2; if you won't keep up (same w/ pyton3 btw), code needs to be rewritten and stuff

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13:49 techrights-sec[2]; ack

13:49 techrights-sec[2]; Fortunately perl5 is quite stable

13:49 techrights-sec[2]; PHP will change (break) between point releases

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; static pages help overcome some of these changes

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes the cost of keeping a site offline become astronomical

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; as you need to rewrite a piece of software just to keep some ARCHIVES online

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; and some sites would rather shut down (go offline) than do this

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes you want to tell folks, slow down a bit, stop "innovating", you'e breaking people's workflows

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; and data far too often

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; society spends a lot of effort just chasing "latest version"

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; we covered this in techrights before

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; in passing at least

13:52 schestowitz-TR2; I still use jpilot in 2022


2 PM, October 25

14:01 schestowitz-TR2; no gym till the numbers improve a lot

14:01 schestowitz-TR2; they use "war", "inflation" and "politics" to pretent COVID-19 queries aren't relevant anymore:

14:02 schestowitz-TR2; Office for National Statistics (ONS): Deaths This Autumn 21% Higher Than Same Period Prior to COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/autumn-death-surge/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/autumn-death-surge/

14:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Office for National Statistics (ONS): Deaths This Autumn 21% Higher Than Same Period Prior to COVID-19

14:29 schestowitz-TR2; rianne says the trains now charge extra one pound to have a physical ticket for thew train

14:29 schestowitz-TR2; and no fee if you use "app"

14:29 schestowitz-TR2; f*cers

14:29 schestowitz-TR2; they call it "green"

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; to carry around a high-powered device

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; and conflict minerals used to asdsemble the darn thing

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; ridiculous

14:30 techrights-sec[2]; ack

14:31 techrights-sec[2]; Not just high powered but very electricity-hungry. Those need to be charged

14:31 techrights-sec[2]; several times per day, not per week, per day.

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; riaqnne is livid

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; this wasn't like this just 2-3 months ago

14:32 schestowitz-TR2; she wants to visit the aunt after cancer operation

14:32 techrights-sec[2]; Well of course she's livid, they are lying to her.

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; this sounds like a better option

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; here, they charge 7.50 to post the ticket to you

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; or you pay 1 pound to have it printed at the station

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; and she says they are greenwashing the "app" option

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; I guess they also profit from hoovring your data and selling it

14:34 schestowitz-TR2; (those are private companies now)

14:46 schestowitz-TR2; England and Wales Increase in Deaths by Age Group: 62% in Children, 12% in Teens, Almost 20% in Adults, and 16% in Old People https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/increase-in-deaths-by-age-groups/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/increase-in-deaths-by-age-groups/

14:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England and Wales Increase in Deaths by Age Group: 62% in Children, 12% in Teens, Almost 20% in Adults, and 16% in Old People

14:46 schestowitz-TR2; !!

14:52 techrights-sec[2]; That would probably the primary reason for foisting an "app" on all the

14:52 techrights-sec[2]; surveillance devices, to continually monitor and sell the observations.

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; kitchen talk about it atm

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; she agrees with me trhat buying the ticket does not even tall them if she boards the train

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; app can help track her before, durig, and after travel

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; then sell the data

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; and she tells me they already sell her data to booking.com (layoffs btw)

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; rianne found out about the booking.com diversion

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; I'm not even sure if train companies are permitted to pass data like this

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; ok, rianne now says that the revolving gates don't work for physical tickets mas they used to

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; with a barcode on the printed ticket

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; instead you neede to go to a person to let you through

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; with the idiots scan their [cr]app shit

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; to get through the revolving gates

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; I reckon they not only penalise financially old people whose pension barely suffice for food now

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; they also aim to compltely eliminate travel by people without [cr]apps

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; I watched thjese trends over the years

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; 10 years ago you could not use wifi anonymously unless in first class ('free' wifi, they can still

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; fingerprint you)

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; and to travel anonymously you needed to go to the counter

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; it's even harder to purcahse soccer ticketa anonumous

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; except froim scalpers

14:56 schestowitz-TR2; or using fake data you give the cashiers


3 PM, October 25

15:06 techrights-sec[2]; ack

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; lol!

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; so much progres

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; we can set satellite in orbit (for MASSIVE budgets... far more than justified)

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; but cannot run trains on time like 200 or so years ago with coal/steam)

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; because "the system is down"

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; lol!

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; "come right up, horse, we're going to the pub"

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; horse repair shop = vet

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; no blinkers to fix, just blinders

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; i thought about doing mems of car vs horse

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; along the lines of "rock vs hypePhone"

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; or ven palm PDA

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; battery life, privacy, security etc.

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; kitchen talk ctd:m rianne said the iran-xxxxx site that we support is having technical issues again

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; after moving from djangoCMS tro drupal

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; we've lost count; the context was, I mentioned python and php 'upgrade' paths

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; and she just noticed in triage that this client (you know who) is having compatibility problems

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; the bills they need to pay just to keep the site going and preserve 30k or so articles' archive are

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; hard to justify even when they hire "geeks" from yerevan (they are not that good tbh)

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; the ones they hired from india were a lot worse, but probably cheaper, more harm than good ime

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; we had to lock one out of the system because he kept making a mess; so his access would be request-based

15:16 schestowitz-TR2; no improvisig allowed; one troll in irc likes to mock people who strive to have stable systems

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15:17 techrights-sec[2]; ack

15:17 techrights-sec[2]; would a static archive be more suitable?

15:17 techrights-sec[2]; wget could scrape the old pages.

15:17 techrights-sec[2]; :(

15:18 schestowitz-TR2; coffee break, need [topic]

15:18 schestowitz-TR2; then rss again (super-slow, even for a tuesday when editors are typically 'back' temporarily)

15:18 schestowitz-TR2; in light of covid-19 numbers we decided to further delay gym

15:18 schestowitz-TR2; until we know wth is going on

15:18 schestowitz-TR2; seems like permanent health damage

15:28 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email

↺ https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email

15:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.axios.com | Republicans sue Google claiming spam filter blocks email

15:29 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email

↺ https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/rnc-lawsuit-google-spam-filter-blocks-email

15:29 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?

15:29 techrights-sec[2]; https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli

↺ https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli

15:29 techrights-sec[2]; gopoly-has-won.html

15:29 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-national-committee-sues-google-over-email-spam-filters-2022-10-22/

↺ https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-national-committee-sues-google-over-email-spam-filters-2022-10-22/

15:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli )

↺ https://cfenollosa.com/blog/after-self-hosting-my-email-for-twenty-three-years-i-have-thrown-in-the-towel-the-oli

15:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Republican National Committee sues Google over email spam filters | Reuters

15:35 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, i'll think of how to cover this

15:35 schestowitz-TR2; rianne meanwhile says, why can't they just make software that lasts many years and is maintained for a long time?

15:35 schestowitz-TR2; it's not a rhetorical questiob

15:35 schestowitz-TR2; it is partly the outcome of software being managed by suits rather then geeks like openbsd

15:36 schestowitz-TR2; e.g. in the case of linux, sheela microsoft and her wife james

15:36 schestowitz-TR2; being NOT techical but merely exploiting technical people (to get rich)

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; Part of the reason they can't do that is because M$ has sold people software

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; using the Appeal To Novelty (argumentum ad novitatem) that the drones in

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; purchasing and the suits in the C-suite evaluate software based on very

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; few other critera other than version number. Recall in the NT vs Netware days

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; they jump the versions up to have a higher number than the competition. Then

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; renamed it to "2000"

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; And part of that comes down to few to none of todays institutions having an

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; actual IT department where they /support/ the mission critical teams in finding

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; easier, more efficient tools and methods. Instead they have all become

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; embedded M$ resellers working against the company using the company's own

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; money.

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; "newer is not better; different is not better; only better is better;"

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; OpenBSD doesn't support any old versions beyond n-1 because they have positioned

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; themselves as mostly a research and development team and that is the way to

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; be able to drop old cruft. Ensuring "backwards compatibility" too long

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; ensures that some cruft never goes away. That's why so many remote exploits

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; affect all known versions of M$ Windows. Or as they put it, the exploits are

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; known to affect the old but supported versions but no info about the "latest

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; version". Then they push for across the board upgrades to the latest version.

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; Then after a pause of a few days or a week, it is quitely mentioned that

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; the "latest version" is also equally vulnerable, but to buy the new version

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; anyway.

15:41 techrights-sec[2]; s/That's why/That's one of the many reasons why/

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; type z "BS job": keep changing things that work

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; this way things change

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; and money changes hands

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; there are theories of so-called 'economists' about flow of money

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; which I don't quite get

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; first, money does not exist per se

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; it's a token/barter -- a concept

15:48 schestowitz-TR2; passing a goat from one person to another person to another person

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; yields no productive "gain"

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; so ideally you can buy a radio alarm clock (fm) that lasts you a lifetime

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; and build a home with good enough materials

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; (not going into specifics about all the things that go wrong with "modern" homes, built fast and cheaply to look

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; good on the surface)

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; cars diminish in value so fast that only a job and peer pressure can justify buying a "modern" one

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; meanwhile I drink a a whole teaspot of coffee that costs just 10p to prepare, inc. power and ingredients

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; *teapot

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; a plastic cup with coffee (i heard) now costs about 4 pounds

15:49 schestowitz-TR2; so you work for 30 minutes at minimum wage *(physically demanding) for some water with ground seeds in it

15:49 techrights-sec[2]; New appliances apparently have input from engineers assigned the task of having

15:49 techrights-sec[2]; critical components fail just after the warranty expires. e.g. plastic

15:49 techrights-sec[2]; encased bearings, glued-in perishable batteries, decomposing belts, etc

15:49 techrights-sec[2]; biab (wiring another computer)

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; a sceptic or cynic would scoff and say "conpricacy theorist"

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; without having read about the light bulb cartel or similar

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; there are hardly proseuctions for bribery anymore (see Microsoft)

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; so cracking down on price-fixing cartels(petrol, food, electronics with patents)

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; not likely any time soon

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; there are ways to shun them (direct action, personal) but it comes with some temporary inconveniences

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; and means you go through life having to constantly challenge and argue with "systems"

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; the aspiration is, make more people out there challenge the system to the point where it becomes

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; financially unjustifable

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; gym this morning: "you can download the app"

15:54 schestowitz-TR2; all your need is a stack of weights and a shower; no apps, no thank you!


4 PM, October 25

16:00 schestowitz-TR2; I tried m,any queries by which to find bits of the rms talk

16:00 schestowitz-TR2; but was not successful (yet)

16:00 schestowitz-TR2; i look forward to publishing andy's piece

16:00 schestowitz-TR2; he covered aspects like life further complicated by "systems"

16:01 techrights-sec[2]; ack

16:01 techrights-sec[2]; I too look forward to Andy's article.

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; flatpak has a new releas

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; egithub

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; the site says at the top (main headline/()

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; the future of APPS on LINUX

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; then shows slack.. steam... microsoft atom (eol!!)

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, the future

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; drm and dead Microsoft stuff

16:06 schestowitz-TR2; we became what we fought?

16:10 techrights-sec[2]; that's what they aim for -- drm and proprietary

16:10 techrights-sec[2]; infiltrated and subsumed; also the pipeline of new IT people has been cut off

16:10 techrights-sec[2]; so there are no places anyone can learn technology even if they wanted to

16:10 techrights-sec[2]; pgksrc is probably better

16:10 techrights-sec[2]; ^pkgsrc

16:10 schestowitz-TR2; they don't even announce the release anyywhere but shithub

16:10 schestowitz-TR2; and I refuse to link to THAT

16:10 schestowitz-TR2; their web site is very out of dats

16:10 schestowitz-TR2; latest press release 2018~

16:10 schestowitz-TR2; 1.0 rewlease

16:15 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/using.html

↺ https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/using.html

16:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.netbsd.org | Chapter?5.?Using pkgsrc

16:15 schestowitz-TR2; now I see more compression algos (zstd, shithub) inserted right into the kernel, linux.

16:15 schestowitz-TR2; there's no reason to put that inside a kernel

16:17 techrights-sec[2]; nope

16:17 techrights-sec[2]; no reason

16:18 schestowitz-TR2; this is facebook using kernel.org as a trijan horse to spread its stuff along with microsoft proprietary prison

16:18 schestowitz-TR2; same for rust

16:18 schestowitz-TR2; while paying millions to Sheela Microsoft and the wife James

16:18 schestowitz-TR2; to make sure they cannot say "no"

16:18 techrights-sec[2]; ack

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; LT said FB was "a disease"

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; that was before Zuckerface and Sanbag paid his boss for some gem-styles sponsorehip mtier that comes

16:19 schestowitz-TR2; with TWO board seats

16:20 schestowitz-TR2; gem-styled sponsorship tier

16:21 schestowitz-TR2; LT/LF: "I heard you like to [some sexual act], how much for you to do that?"

16:42 schestowitz-TR2; ha!

16:42 schestowitz-TR2; new video an hour ago, validates what I wrote

16:42 techrights-sec[2]; ack

16:42 schestowitz-TR2; Many Young People Are Dying (a Lot More Than Before) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/many-young-people-are-dying/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/many-young-people-are-dying/

16:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Many Young People Are Dying (a Lot More Than Before)

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; well worth it, I've jyst told rianne

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; and he rightly points out the billBC and other media like BillPR won't fu*cking mention such

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; very simple facts

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; and the academic community sees no need to properly study the causes

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; to repat what I said today and prior days, until we know "wth is going on" I'm lowering the risk

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; of shortening our lives

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; meanwhile in Boston University they developed a far more potent virus based on COVID-19

16:51 schestowitz-TR2; let's hope that one does not escape the lab

16:52 techrights-sec[2]; checking

16:52 techrights-sec[2]; ???

16:52 techrights-sec[2]; the text does not make much sense

16:52 techrights-sec[2]; there isn't an academic community any more just "adjunct lecturers" in the US

16:52 techrights-sec[2]; and similar, post-Bologne Treaty flunkies in Europe

16:53 schestowitz-TR2; if the text does not make sense to you, it is because he covers a number of topics in an order that makes sense

16:53 schestowitz-TR2; those are like his written notes

16:53 schestowitz-TR2; and URLs


5 PM, October 25

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; ack

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; in both the US and Europe there aren't any stable academic jobs to speak of

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; and they spend much of their time playing administrivia with the bureacracy's

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; proprietary software locked into Windows instead of teaching or doing research

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; The Bologne Treaty toroedoed the system already in 1998 but the damage did not

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; fully kick in 2003 but instead an academic generation or two later as the

17:02 techrights-sec[2]; real people aged out.

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; in 2000 i started bsd

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; in 2003 phd

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; in 2005 i questioned my mentor (cs dept head) about postdoc jobs

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; he said they're expected to work well beyond 9-5

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; that was 17 years ago

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; i later discovered how low a pay and "administrivia" too

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; like swiping card and filling out time sheets

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; like I was 15 again working at Burger King

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; and even comparable salaries!

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; /s/bsd/bsc/

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; that necessarily means those who can do decent research won't be postdocs

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; they need to eat

17:02 schestowitz-TR2; the sysadmins at uni were so awful that it's a miracle they even got the responsibilities

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; like wiping a whole server without even telling tenants

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; without doing any backups

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; after getting cracked

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; they are probably fake 'tech' people who just could not find employment anywhere slese

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; *else

17:03 schestowitz-TR2; (obv. they could not conduct research, either)

17:04 techrights-sec[2]; Unqualified flunkies are easier to keep on short leash because the managers

17:04 techrights-sec[2]; can boss them around because the flunky knows he is both highly unqualified and

17:04 techrights-sec[2]; can be replaced on a whim

17:06 schestowitz-TR2; we have those in our company now

17:06 schestowitz-TR2; using "Ubuntu" in VirtualBox (Windows)

17:06 schestowitz-TR2; with degree in "Classics"

17:06 schestowitz-TR2; and no real ability to solve technical issues

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17:27 techrights-sec[2]; ack

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; "A pause and reappraisal of global vaccination policies for COVID-19 is long overdue

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; ." https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc

↺ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc

17:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc )

↺ https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363759427_Curing_the_pandemic_of_misinformation_on_COVID-19_mRNA_vacc

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; ines_through_real_evidence-based_medicine_-_Part_1

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; rianne's mom got special exemption issued by the cardiologist

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; because the heart conditions are known to be interacting badly with some vaccines

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; but more research is needed

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; though I am guessing it would be obstructed when you sell a 20 ent dose for $130 or more

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; *cent

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; I know some people who reported heart events after 1st or 2nd dose

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; it was then thay they refuses to take any more

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; *refused

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; no matter what they were told (assurances based onm hearsay and fear of sounding non-conformist)

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; buying a new heart is difficult because it's hard to replace moving parts that pump blood

17:28 techrights-sec[2]; ack

17:28 schestowitz-TR2; same for spine, but there are remedies there and you can live with a bad spine

17:36 schestowitz-TR2; (news VERY slow today; tuesdays are usually busy)

17:55 techrights-sec[2]; https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/24/snyk-cut-14-workforce-latest-round-tech-industry-layoffs/

↺ https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/24/snyk-cut-14-workforce-latest-round-tech-industry-layoffs/

17:55 techrights-sec[2]; ^ topic ?

17:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Snyk to cut 14% of workforce in latest round of tech industry layoffs - SiliconANGLE

17:55 schestowitz-TR2; haha

17:55 schestowitz-TR2; nice one

17:57 schestowitz-TR2; In the United States, Winter Deaths Increased 28% Between 2016 and This Year (But President Biden Insists Pandemic is Over) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/cdc-numbers/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/25/cdc-numbers/

17:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive In the United States, Winter Deaths Increased 28% Between 2016 and This Year (But President Biden Insists Pandemic is Over)


6 PM, October 25

18:02 techrights-sec[2]; ack

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: do you have a specific paper by Lemley in mind? He has written quite

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: a few and the search engines do not show any of them to be obviously

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: connected to software or the

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: do you have a specific paper by Lemley in mind? He has written quite

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: a few and the search engines do not show any of them to be obviously

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; otr: connected to software or the concept of innovation.

18:22 techrights-sec[2]; concept of innovation.

18:23 schestowitz-TR2; he wrote about how patent maximalism should avoided and patent quality preserved, iirc

18:25 schestowitz-TR2; the topic of patents fell off the media and I lost track

18:25 schestowitz-TR2; now the pharma companies don't even suffer any scrutiny of it

18:25 schestowitz-TR2; systemic collapse

18:25 schestowitz-TR2; the interests of the vast majority have no bearing on policies

18:38 schestowitz-TR2; I would rememeber no better than past TR psost that mention them by name

18:38 schestowitz-TR2; and have URLs


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10 PM, October 25

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; A

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; "Study finds patent systems may discourage innovation"

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; https://phys.org/news/2009-07-patent-discourage.html

↺ https://phys.org/news/2009-07-patent-discourage.html

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; ?

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; Maybe this one:

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; "Patent Scope and Innovation in the Software Industry"

22:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-phys.org | Study finds patent systems may discourage innovation

22:36 techrights-sec[2]; https://scholarship.law.georgetown.edu/facpub/343/

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