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beginning of new day, September 25

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6 AM, September 25

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7 AM, September 25

07:07 Techrights-sec; Remember that Lunduke and others have commented that putting the string "Linux"

07:07 Techrights-sec; in the video title gets it demonetized, at least initially. The status can

07:07 Techrights-sec; be restored after a small fight, but by then the peak has past and there

07:07 Techrights-sec; will be only a trickle of views left for that video. Most videos get all

07:07 Techrights-sec; their views at the beginning, so this tactic of Google is a way to eliminate

07:07 Techrights-sec; production of "Linux" videos. There used to be other sites which were always

07:07 Techrights-sec; fighting demonetization, though I cannot recall which companies. For example

07:07 Techrights-sec; the original GNUheter site always had problem with its ad revenue and the

07:07 Techrights-sec; ad vendor usually refused to pay and never paid what was owed, claiming

07:07 Techrights-sec; false stats.

07:07 Techrights-sec; So it's not just against the channels but against all coverage of Linux or GNU

07:07 Techrights-sec; anywhere.

07:07 Techrights-sec; https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/wth-youtube-queen-wiciwici-may-be-after:2

↺ https://odysee.com/@switchedtolinux:0/wth-youtube-queen-wiciwici-may-be-after:2

07:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | WTH YouTube? | Queen Wiciwici may be after me again!

07:13 schestowitz-TR; gm

07:13 schestowitz-TR; i recorded 2 videos and went to sleep while they process

07:13 schestowitz-TR; I will finish the process shortly

07:13 schestowitz-TR; will quote your explanation

07:13 schestowitz-TR; I had mentioned something to that effect in the longer (45 min) video

07:13 schestowitz-TR; which will give another example (dr. campbell)

07:13 schestowitz-TR; yesterday did not go as planned, i got like a dozen emails and calls from the scammed friend


8 AM, September 25

08:21 schestowitz-TR; draft

08:21 Techrights-sec; checking

08:26 Techrights-sec; GMail ignores the existence of Thunderbird:

08:26 Techrights-sec; https://support.google.com/a/answer/9003945?hl=en

↺ https://support.google.com/a/answer/9003945?hl=en

08:26 Techrights-sec; and mainly only works with OAuth-emcumbered software

08:26 Techrights-sec; https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227

↺ https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227

08:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.google.com | Set up Gmail with a third-party email client - Google Workspace Admin Help

08:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.google.com | Control which third-party & internal apps access Google Workspace data - Google Workspace Admin Help

08:28 Techrights-sec; "As of May 30, 2022, Google no longer allows Less secure apps [sic] access for Gmail accounts, thus OAuth is required. If you are using Google supplied app

08:28 Techrights-sec; passwords, Thunderbird version 91.8.0 and newer will make that conversion for you. Further, Gmail accounts do not work with Thunderbird 31 and older becau

08:28 Techrights-sec; se they do not support Google's OAuth (implemented in bug 849540)."

08:28 Techrights-sec; https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

↺ https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail

08:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-support.mozilla.org | Thunderbird and Gmail | Thunderbird Help

08:42 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I've incorporated all the aboive poins

08:42 schestowitz-TR; got massive distracted by troll incident in irc

08:42 schestowitz-TR; i should look away more

08:42 schestowitz-TR; also lost my train of thought and forgot some point that I had planned to add to the text

08:42 schestowitz-TR; need to slow down and not multitask with irc

08:42 schestowitz-TR; i need to sit down and think how to better manage the time; maybe I'll take a walk again later, that was a lot of fun...

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08:47 schestowitz-TR; may i suggest, a la "ota",

08:47 schestowitz-TR; we use some tag for topics to cover

08:47 schestowitz-TR; then I can scan the irc logs for that tag to see the topics

08:47 schestowitz-TR; e.g. [topic]

08:47 schestowitz-TR; so that acts as a market fow when I'm done with rss feeds

08:47 schestowitz-TR; [topic] Why Canonical is Not a Friend of GNU/Linux Freedom and Mentioning WSL/systemd Helps Windows

08:47 schestowitz-TR; [topic] Microsoft Is Vanishing From Netcraft

08:48 schestowitz-TR; [topic] Kristall in KDE Neon

08:48 schestowitz-TR; [topic] Separating Techrights IRC Channel From Non-Tech-Related Politics

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08:57 Techrights-sec; ok

08:59 schestowitz-TR; will record 'in bulk' later

08:59 schestowitz-TR; it's a lot faster

08:59 schestowitz-TR; and they can be short

08:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe at some point I will add a "playlist" file so that the processing can be done for multiple files in series

08:59 schestowitz-TR; without human intervention

08:59 schestowitz-TR; when handling multiple files things start to get confusing

08:59 schestowitz-TR; as they are labeled by the data and time only


9 AM, September 25

09:01 Techrights-sec; ok

09:01 Techrights-sec; [topic] GMail not supporting standard IMAPS and instead supporting a slightly incompatible variant

09:04 schestowitz-TR; i don't have enough knowledge of it

09:04 schestowitz-TR; if the links you passed along earlier cover it, i can go through them

09:04 schestowitz-TR; like we did in march

09:04 schestowitz-TR; i used imap only at work and still use imap at work

09:04 schestowitz-TR; for my personal accounts I'm pop3

09:04 schestowitz-TR; and sometimes "leave on server" (do not pop)

09:04 schestowitz-TR; i spent years (job) supporting email access for uni professors here

09:04 schestowitz-TR; plus vpn, dial-up (ran bsd)...

09:04 schestowitz-TR; mostly for library access

09:04 schestowitz-TR; digital access to journals from home

09:11 Techrights-sec; POP went out in the 1990s; IMAPS can download or leave on the server

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09:22 Techrights-sec; rver

09:22 Techrights-sec;

09:22 Techrights-sec; In the 1990s many (most?) universities had Kerberos + LDAP to identify

09:22 Techrights-sec; users whether on campus or off campus and let them have access to the right

09:22 Techrights-sec; level consistent with the rules. I guess that was later all scrapped

09:22 Techrights-sec; so that IPv4-based all-or-nothing level access could replace it. The VPN

09:22 Techrights-sec; is an unnecessary redundant bug-ridden pile of crap though.

09:22 Techrights-sec; Usually the only purposes of the VPN is to siphon money out of the university's

09:22 Techrights-sec; budget and have an innocuous excuse to ban GNU/Linux desktops and clients,

09:22 Techrights-sec; FreeBSD as well.

09:23 schestowitz-TR; we ueed ldap

09:23 schestowitz-TR; for the vpn and for dial-up

09:23 schestowitz-TR; i had interfaces for ldap to check the users' accounts

09:23 schestowitz-TR; i had high-level access to the full DB of the uni

09:23 schestowitz-TR; the vpn ws not there just for library access though

09:23 schestowitz-TR; many resources were lazily made lan-restricted

09:23 schestowitz-TR; based on ip address

09:23 schestowitz-TR; inc. at the cs depat

09:23 schestowitz-TR; *dept

09:23 schestowitz-TR; epo does the same

09:23 schestowitz-TR; they have a vpn form intranet and such

09:23 Techrights-sec; Keyword: lazily

09:23 Techrights-sec; euphemism for: incompetently

09:54 Techrights-sec; Same for "intranet". With proper access control, a VPN is only an expensive

09:54 Techrights-sec; boondoggle and serves no purpose but to bleed coffers and to block GNU/Linux

09:55 schestowitz-TR; i think that the vpn has another purpose: spying

09:55 schestowitz-TR; they want to log everything

09:55 schestowitz-TR; using the middleman for packets

09:55 schestowitz-TR; spying on workers

09:55 schestowitz-TR; albeit there are workarounds

09:55 schestowitz-TR; like using two machines or two stacks in tandem

09:55 schestowitz-TR; without turning off and on a vpn


10 AM, September 25

10:03 Techrights-sec; In practice, there are very few real use-cases for VPNs, despite them

10:03 Techrights-sec; being shoehorned in everywhere (usually to block GNU/Linux)

10:04 schestowitz-TR; back then I tried to support the vpn for slackware and bsd users

10:04 schestowitz-TR; but my boss (mark) had an attitude that was like,

10:04 schestowitz-TR; if these people can figure out how to install it (20 years ago)

10:04 schestowitz-TR; they can probably figure out the vpn

10:04 schestowitz-TR; and can compile from source, too

10:05 Techrights-sec; Whereas if the authentication and authorization had happened via Kerberos

10:05 Techrights-sec; and LDAP, both would have been supported more or less automatically.

10:11 schestowitz-TR; rememeber we did not even have firefox yet

10:12 Techrights-sec; Yeah that was back in the Netscape days

10:12 Techrights-sec; or era. IIRC all that could be done not only as a web service but /without/

10:12 Techrights-sec; cookies, but time has passed and I am not sure of the details any more.

10:14 schestowitz-TR; iirc, vpn was not ued so much for journal access

10:14 schestowitz-TR; the library had a web portal

10:14 schestowitz-TR; for journ access, downloading pdfs etc.

10:14 schestowitz-TR; i think people just needed dial-up from home

10:14 schestowitz-TR; witgh ldap

10:14 schestowitz-TR; not to rely on isps

10:14 schestowitz-TR; this was pre-boradband for many regions

10:15 schestowitz-TR; the vpn came later

10:15 schestowitz-TR; for some faculties that mistook vpn for 'security'

10:15 Techrights-sec; There were strong sales teams pushing VPNs combined with managers seeing

10:15 Techrights-sec; them as a stealth method of blocking GNU/Linux + BSD plus, I suspect, kickbacks

10:16 schestowitz-TR; the market share or userbase of any kind of linux was a lot smaller back then, but enjoyed momentum

10:16 schestowitz-TR; one was to slow down momentum was to fulful the prophecy of "it's too hard"

10:16 schestowitz-TR; and x not supported.

10:16 schestowitz-TR; e.g. x=games

10:17 Techrights-sec; Not entirely, it was threatening to grow on the desktop overall and was

10:17 Techrights-sec; becoming popular at universities. :/

10:17 Techrights-sec; The lack of game support was and probably still is cited by the business

10:17 Techrights-sec; community as a reason for not using GNU/Linux at work. WTF??

10:24 Techrights-sec; Back when /. was still relevant and independent, there was a huge attempt at

10:24 Techrights-sec; getting Adobe to port Photoshop. The company responded poorly and doubled down

10:24 Techrights-sec; on avoiding the platform.

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10:44 schestowitz-TR; source, mjg59_?

10:44 Techrights-sec; SELF was under heavy attack for its successful progressive work in "inclusivity"

10:44 Techrights-sec; They use a blind review process, unlike the other conferences.

10:44 Techrights-sec; I hope ESR is ok soon but that is a serious health issue. Can that be verified

10:44 Techrights-sec; from a reliable source and not just a rumor?

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10:49 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "There has been an unprecedented rush of people canceling their subscriptions to this blog the last five days." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/ | Source: Craig Murray

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

10:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig Murray

10:49 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Could be people are struggling with providing for themselves at the moment; could also be a hacker. Is there any way you can check this?" https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

10:50 schestowitz-TR; "It seems the only way to subscribe to this blog is via PayPal which is currently out of favour because of its censorship of free-speech organisations. Im surprised they havent got round to cutting off this site." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/

10:51 mjg59_; schestowitz-TR: https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1554203297891827712 - Dave Taht knows esr well

↺ https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1554203297891827712

10:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@mtaht: @realsporky @mjg59 He is recovering from stomach cancer.

10:53 schestowitz-TR; craig murray: "Good point. Certainly people continually find they have unfollowed me on twitter." Happened to Wikileaks and others too. Social control media can not only censor but also hide and break links between nodes. https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comments

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/09/i-am-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comments

10:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | I Am Puzzled - Craig Murray

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11 AM, September 25

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11:15 Techrights-sec; ack

11:15 Techrights-sec; ack

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11:47 schestowitz-TR; lasagna finished, that was fast

11:47 schestowitz-TR; just got off the phone, long call

11:47 schestowitz-TR; and yes, twitter and other such crap is a very unreliable and low s/n "outlet"

11:47 schestowitz-TR; "outlet" is the right term

11:47 schestowitz-TR; goes well with "shitter"

11:47 schestowitz-TR; gonna try to clean up feeds etc. and later record 4-5 topics

11:53 Techrights-sec; ack

11:59 schestowitz-TR; Sam Varghese wasting his time doing these puff pieces :/ https://itwire.com/mobile-devices/review-oppo-reno8-pro-5g-lives-life-in-the-fast-charging-lane.html

↺ https://itwire.com/mobile-devices/review-oppo-reno8-pro-5g-lives-life-in-the-fast-charging-lane.html

11:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Review: Oppo Reno8 Pro 5G lives life in the fast-charging lane


noon, September 25

12:01 Techrights-sec; Likely required by his managers

12:01 schestowitz-TR; if I added a sentence, that would be it

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2 PM, September 25

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14:34 schestowitz-TR; cops and authorities useless, as usual

14:34 schestowitz-TR; unless you are billg

14:34 schestowitz-TR; then they attack the critics, not the criminals

14:35 schestowitz-TR; no, microsoft is the victim of its own platform being used for fraud

14:46 schestowitz-TR; I once called the police about days-long ddos attack

14:46 schestowitz-TR; "it was like talking to a deaf person" -Lavros about Liz Trump

14:46 schestowitz-TR; *Lavrov


3 PM, September 25

15:01 schestowitz-TR; 40+ "reports" in michael west this past week... from AAP (AP)

15:01 schestowitz-TR; I came for the "Independent journalism"

15:01 Techrights-sec; ack

15:01 Techrights-sec; He has fully outsourced his site then

15:01 schestowitz-TR; not fully, but it needs filtering

15:18 Techrights-sec; It'd be great if he had a separate Atom or RSS feed for /just/ his work which

15:18 Techrights-sec; leaves out the newsfeed junk.

15:19 schestowitz-TR; yes, you probably understand and can relate to why I take issues with this approach

15:19 schestowitz-TR; it's like contamination of motivations

15:19 schestowitz-TR; de-purifying the independence and moreover this means that any time I link to his site I boost all "that other stuff"

15:19 Techrights-sec; yes

15:20 schestowitz-TR; "that other stuff"

15:20 schestowitz-TR; e.g.

15:20 schestowitz-TR; 1) the economy is good news

15:20 schestowitz-TR; 2) our great leaders do wonderful job

15:20 schestowitz-TR; 3) cat found, very very important to know!!


4 PM, September 25

16:26 Techrights-sec; :/


5 PM, September 25

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7 PM, September 25

19:25 schestowitz-TR; 0/


8 PM, September 25

20:08 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/25/no-data-no-problems/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/25/no-data-no-problems/

20:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive British Government Stops Properly Reporting How Many COVID-19 Patients Are Admitted to Hospital and Die (as Winter Approaches and Numbers Already Goes Up)

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