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beginning of new day, January 25

00:21 schestowitz-TR; i wrote that post when i waas super-tired

00:21 schestowitz-TR; just before bedtime

00:21 schestowitz-TR; because i wnated to put it out there asap

00:21 schestowitz-TR; knowing how much damage that does

00:42 techrigthssec; quality is preferable to quantity, the text itself is missing a description\

00:42 techrigthssec; of what has happened

00:42 techrigthssec; using up a good title like that without accompanying information misses a good

00:42 techrigthssec; opportunity

00:43 schestowitz-TR; ack

00:46 techrigthssec; The other day you mentioned some modifications to tm-new as far as summaries go.

00:46 techrigthssec; Can you describe the changes needed? It was something about monthly summmaries.

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00:48 schestowitz-TR; yes. pseudocode:

00:48 schestowitz-TR; 1. retrieve from db where month=$month

00:49 schestowitz-TR; 2. select title, url, description

00:49 schestowitz-TR; 3. <dd>/<dt>

00:49 schestowitz-TR; 4. likely sorted by time

00:49 schestowitz-TR; this way all the description I type in by hand will be picked up by search engines and moreover it'll

00:49 schestowitz-TR; be easily to navigate past months' work

00:49 techrigthssec; Got it.

00:50 schestowitz-TR; i am aiming to finish rss, do daily links by 2am

00:50 schestowitz-TR; then write about iso wrt nhs data

00:50 schestowitz-TR; before 2:40 (bulletin)


1 AM, January 25

01:03 techrigthssec; ack

01:12 techrigthssec; It used to be that the search engines were aware of and used the description

01:12 techrigthssec; metadata.

01:23 techrigthssec; I guess not any more.


2 AM, January 25

02:00 schestowitz-TR; draft

02:00 techrigthssec; Checking

02:00 techrigthssec; "ISO" needs to be expanded to "ISO 9000 Certification" or whatever at least

02:00 techrigthssec; once, preferably at the start -- if that's what you are refering to.

02:00 techrigthssec; Otherwise, it's not clear how ISO the organization relates to Sirius

02:00 schestowitz-TR; added at the top

02:01 techrigthssec; I'd say use "ISO 9000 Certification" throughout the post even in the DIlbert

02:01 techrigthssec; caption. It's very confusing otherwise IMO

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; Gloating about "ISO" as in ISO 9000 certification...

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; ISO 9000 certificatoin needs to be ...

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; Explaining ISO 9000 certification in ...

02:09 techrigthssec; """

02:09 techrigthssec; etc

02:09 techrigthssec; There are 2 problems to track; one is the scam of the ISO 9000 certification;

02:09 techrigthssec; The other is the destruction of ISO as an organization by M$

02:27 techrigthssec; s/mass muster/pass muster/

02:27 techrigthssec; s/ISO allows personal/ISO 9000 certification allows/

02:27 techrigthssec; etc

02:27 techrigthssec; to differentiate between the specific certification and the organization

02:27 techrigthssec; granting the certificate


4 AM, January 25

04:51 schestowitz-TR; grieving today

04:51 schestowitz-TR; trying to find MIA flights

04:51 schestowitz-TR; falkon does not work with any airline site I am trying

04:51 schestowitz-TR; absurd

04:51 schestowitz-TR; i cannot even see prices

04:51 schestowitz-TR; gosh, librewolf does not work either

04:51 schestowitz-TR; seems like they blcok every non-Google browser

04:51 schestowitz-TR; firefox works

04:51 schestowitz-TR; no way I am paying 2500 pounds for a return flight to Miami

04:51 schestowitz-TR; total ripoff!

04:51 schestowitz-TR; they don't even care if someone died!! they exploit that.

04:51 schestowitz-TR; [me very angry!]


5 AM, January 25

05:36 psydruid; British Airways has return flights from Heathrow to Miami from 750

05:36 schestowitz-TR; not a day's notice

05:37 psydruid; I put today's date in my search

05:38 psydruid; they have another flight in the afternoon

05:38 schestowitz-TR; i see...


6 AM, January 25

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06:56 schestowitz-TR; spoke to some cousins, I think I will send an essay for them to read


7 AM, January 25

07:00 schestowitz-TR; hem to read

07:00 schestowitz-TR; don't mean to sound alarming, but I think deaths are "accelerating" a bit, both based on stats and direct

07:00 schestowitz-TR; experience (relatives). Some people lose a year. Some loses 10 years. Some even 50 years. That's tragic.

07:00 schestowitz-TR; nobody wants to end up an epitaph or obituary like swarz, he died so younf

07:00 schestowitz-TR; the time wasted in conde nasty [sic] can be recovered some other way

07:00 schestowitz-TR; but 60 odd years were thrown away

07:00 techrigthssec; Increased deaths are quite likely given the decreased caution.

07:08 schestowitz-TR; i heard ambulances or police a few times overnight

07:08 schestowitz-TR; from the stats that I saw (maybe not discussed as much as the work-blaming ambulance driver dtrikes)

07:08 schestowitz-TR; there are many distress calls from homes

07:08 schestowitz-TR; as people die in their homes

07:08 schestowitz-TR; not waking up or collapsing

07:08 schestowitz-TR; and disscussions about this get to be ridiculed as "anti-vaxx"

07:08 schestowitz-TR; *worker-blaming

07:16 techrigthssec; The blame shifting distracts from the reality of who has been intentionally

07:16 techrigthssec; underfunding and understaffing the NHS

07:16 techrigthssec; and why.

07:20 schestowitz-TR; I ranted about "the media" in IRC/TR-bot earlier tonight, but that's not a new problem

07:20 schestowitz-TR; the media is becoming an oppressive voice, and wikipedia is a close second

07:20 schestowitz-TR; obscructing critics of very bad orgs/people

07:20 schestowitz-TR; one can hope gemini and other "alt" things will undo this damage/trends somehow

07:20 schestowitz-TR; because it makes no sense that media read by 90% of people is working against their interestsw

07:20 schestowitz-TR; when their capacity to disseminate their own narrative is 10 times bigger, in theory...

07:20 schestowitz-TR; social contgrol media helped created conglemerates at the expense of millions of personal voices/blogs

07:20 schestowitz-TR; youtube is part of that

07:20 schestowitz-TR; culling many people

07:20 schestowitz-TR; they seduced many people out of their own platforms with "likes" and fake "friends" (fake status)

07:20 schestowitz-TR; and now many realised that if they on their deathbed

07:20 schestowitz-TR; the last thing they'd say is, "gee!! I wish I had more twitter 'followers'..."

07:21 techrigthssec; Wikipedia has been a propaganda engine for years after it became a playground

07:21 techrigthssec; for marketeers.

07:23 schestowitz-TR; I try NOT to link to wikipedia these days

07:23 schestowitz-TR; but then again the www as a whole is trash

07:23 schestowitz-TR; jumped the shark

07:23 schestowitz-TR; many web sites don't eevn show up without overlay saying "WE VALUE YOUR PRIVACY"

07:23 schestowitz-TR; or airlines that insist you use spyware with SYSTEM-level access

07:23 techrigthssec; It's usually avoidable.

07:23 techrigthssec; There was a good blog post recently about the advantages of "owning" your own

07:23 techrigthssec; domain name.

07:23 techrigthssec; Most sites are no longer web sites, but instead javascript "apps" served over

07:23 techrigthssec; http


8 AM, January 25

08:19 schestowitz-TR; Azure LAYOFFS. "Simple: Cloud cost is way high. Customers are moving back to premise to improve cost." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kQvvViD#replies

↺ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kQvvViD#replies

08:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thelayoff.com | Layoffs are still happening - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs

08:20 schestowitz-TR; they need staff that knows how to do this, not memoprise fucking proprietary GUIs

08:20 schestowitz-TR; maybe the media can come up with words like "onprem" or "clown-native" or...

08:20 schestowitz-TR; to make the old sound new

08:20 techrigthssec; ack

08:41 schestowitz-TR; So will Microsoft refund that 22 BILLION DOLLARS in Biden graft, seeing that HoloLens is now dead? https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-has-laid-off-entire-teams-behind-virtual-mixed-reality-and-hololens see http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

↺ https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-has-laid-off-entire-teams-behind-virtual-mixed-reality-and-hololens

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.windowscentral.com | Microsoft has laid off entire teams behind Virtual, Mixed Reality, and HoloLens | Windows Central

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

08:42 techrigthssec; Very important question.


9 AM, January 25

09:00 psydruid; https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/surface-and-windows-revenue-tanks-39-in-latest-microsoft-earnings-report

↺ https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/surface-and-windows-revenue-tanks-39-in-latest-microsoft-earnings-report

09:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.windowscentral.com | Surface and Windows revenue tanks 39% in latest Microsoft earnings report | Windows Central

09:01 psydruid; Death by a thousand cuts

09:01 schestowitz; :)

09:47 schestowitz-TR; gym time

09:48 techrigthssec; ack


10 AM, January 25

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10:44 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> New Record Low: Only One Linux Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/

http://techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/25/zdnet-went-dry/

10:44 schestowitz-TR; [TechrightsSocial] techrights.org | New Record Low: Only One Linux Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | Techrights

10:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New Record Low: Only One Linux Article in ZDNet in More Than Two Weeks | Techrights

10:44 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Steven Vaughan-Nichols gradually exiting ZDNet? https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/new-linux-kernel-smb-security-flaw-revealed

↺ https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/new-linux-kernel-smb-security-flaw-revealed

10:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com | New Linux kernel SMB security flaw revealed | Open Source Watch

10:44 schestowitz-TR; [TechrightsSocial] opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com | New Linux kernel SMB security flaw revealed | Open Source Watch

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11 AM, January 25

11:50 schestowitz-TR; How is this content? http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtml

11:50 schestowitz-TR; The script can start from an arbitrary date but defaults to one month ago.

11:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines posts since 2022-12-26

11:53 techrigthssec; How is this content? http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtml

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/test.shtml

11:53 techrigthssec; The script can start from an arbitrary date but defaults to one month ago.

11:53 schestowitz-TR; that looks great

11:53 schestowitz-TR; i will ask other half as well

11:53 schestowitz-TR; struggling emotionally atm because I am writing about my friend

11:53 schestowitz-TR; and many things come back to me

11:58 schestowitz-TR; rianne just took a look

11:58 schestowitz-TR; feedback is positive

11:58 schestowitz-TR; she thinks monthly archives would help mher a lot

11:58 schestowitz-TR; locating older pages she is updating

11:58 schestowitz-TR; i assume it's as easy to putput such pages to gemini/gemtext, as the format is similar

11:58 schestowitz-TR; and that makes indexing easier for crawlers


noon, January 25

12:03 schestowitz-TR; i have just checked

12:03 schestowitz-TR; fair point

12:03 schestowitz-TR; i think that with gemini the main way to navigate to old pages is go back, back, back, back...

12:03 schestowitz-TR; linear navigation only

12:03 schestowitz-TR; the summaries only ever showed up in the front page

12:04 techrigthssec; No need for gemtext since it is for the search engine indexes and the gemtext

12:04 techrigthssec; have the summaries anyway

12:22 techrigthssec; Any suggestion for file name?

12:41 schestowitz-TR; does it need a file name with extension, or can a directory with index be created?

12:41 schestowitz-TR; maybe ~/year/month/ ?


1 PM, January 25

13:41 techrigthssec; Either way is good

13:41 techrigthssec; It's a rolling date period based on the latest N days, so it's a single file

13:41 techrigthssec; since it contains only redundant information

13:46 schestowitz-TR; sorry, was away

13:46 schestowitz-TR; finished writing a rushed tribute to Harv

13:46 schestowitz-TR; and got message from ONS

13:46 schestowitz-TR; posted an update on that as well

13:46 schestowitz-TR; I guess if the archive is done irregularly, like once a day, or once a month, then the large file can

13:46 schestowitz-TR; be split and filed semi-manually? I guess it would become a strain on the server if the site ages a lot

13:46 schestowitz-TR; and also lots of manual work

13:47 techrigthssec; np

13:47 techrigthssec; It's fully redundant and would not add anything other than the attempt at

13:47 techrigthssec; feeding the search engines. The material already exists in the established

13:47 techrigthssec; pages so it would just be adding complexity for what looks like zero gain.

13:47 techrigthssec; The single file will probably be an advantage but leaving old copies around

13:47 techrigthssec; will not help as far as I understand the current problem with the search engines

13:49 schestowitz-TR; it can help to be able to check a page with weeks-old pages sometimes

13:49 schestowitz-TR; for those who try to avoid dupes

13:49 techrigthssec; It's parked here: news.tuxmachines.org/summary.shtml and updated by cron

13:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne says "thnk you"

13:54 schestowitz-TR; she will use it, it is useful in checking for risk of dupes

13:54 schestowitz-TR; the summaries help catch some extra keywords, e.g. "mx linus"

13:54 schestowitz-TR; *linus

13:54 schestowitz-TR; >linux

13:54 schestowitz-TR; thanks! for me too it is practically useful.

13:54 schestowitz-TR; I want to think TM will live another 20 years, but doubt www will survive this long

13:54 schestowitz-TR; 20 years is a long time in tech


2 PM, January 25

14:41 techrigthssec; New protocols can arise during that time

14:41 techrigthssec; The crucial period is can the WWW survive past the attempt to inflict HTTP/3 on

14:41 techrigthssec; it

14:43 schestowitz-TR; what i experienced today in airline sites was neauseating

14:43 schestowitz-TR; and it only gets worse over time

14:43 schestowitz-TR; I remember the days of everything as "windows software

14:43 schestowitz-TR; "

14:43 schestowitz-TR; WINE had not been around yet

14:43 schestowitz-TR; tax software, quicken, etc.

14:43 schestowitz-TR; we're getting there, escept the browser is the OS

14:43 schestowitz-TR; heck, there is an OS now called after the browsee

14:43 schestowitz-TR; not firefoxos

14:47 techrigthssec; The problem with the browser has two parts. One is that businesses are using

14:47 techrigthssec; the browser as a half-assed VM. The second is that they completely eschew

14:47 techrigthssec; open standards and core functionality.

14:48 schestowitz-TR; notes to self: write in a timeless way: ideas, concepts, not brands. storage in simple, generic form.

14:48 schestowitz-TR; programs: keep them simple, no big frameworks like rust or adobe trash. make many backups, ensure format

14:48 schestowitz-TR; shifting is widely available upon need, even decades later (images, videos, latex...)

14:48 schestowitz-TR; yes

14:59 schestowitz-TR; we need to always been several steps ahead, technologically and beyond

14:59 schestowitz-TR; as in, a step ahead in things covered and the underlying tech

14:59 schestowitz-TR; ahead != newer

14:59 schestowitz-TR; the "latest" ofte gets left behind

14:59 schestowitz-TR; like clown

14:59 schestowitz-TR; the wave of layoffs quietly killed off not only jobs but also APIs and so-called (not) "ecosystems"

14:59 schestowitz-TR; many will get "burned" and some, as a result, "burned out"

14:59 schestowitz-TR; google's war on gpl (linux) has failed again and they throw in the towel

14:59 schestowitz-TR; if they lose money, it is doomed to fail for financial reasons

14:59 schestowitz-TR; many videos in 'free' hosting sites will vanish as the economy sinks

14:59 schestowitz-TR; nobody wants to be left holding the bills

14:59 schestowitz-TR; and people don't want to watch 5 ads in a 5-minute video

14:59 schestowitz-TR; (bonus: in an economic downturn people buy only essensial, advertising moot)


3 PM, January 25

15:07 schestowitz-TR; today you sent a url from hillel (seen it in rss too, and others had said the same re bloated s/w - those

15:07 schestowitz-TR; things typically go away and perish sooner. drm and hd over the net = uneconomic

15:14 schestowitz-TR; cory read a lot of books while on holiday

15:14 schestowitz-TR; we only saw some of the reviews he wrote about these

15:14 schestowitz-TR; some seems like eff-recommended gender stuff

15:14 schestowitz-TR; but I think watching corporate media like CBS has its risks

15:14 schestowitz-TR; too much risk of intyentional bias projecting from up above in the corporate chain of command

15:36 techrigthssec; Right. However, it is the only service to date which has picked up on ByteDance

15:36 techrigthssec; ack

15:37 schestowitz-TR; 60 Minutes did some awful things before

15:37 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot give you examples because I forgot

15:37 schestowitz-TR; that was yars ago, back when NSA was still talked about

15:37 schestowitz-TR; and wikileaks was publishing loads of juicy leaks

15:37 schestowitz-TR; btw, if you reead the latest (this afternoon) ons stuff, it seems like we might be close tom agreement

15:37 schestowitz-TR; that nothing wrong was done and thus the data is ok

15:37 schestowitz-TR; keeping their feet to the fire is crucial because recently it was confirmed that had relayed intentional

15:37 schestowitz-TR; propaganda by cooking up some numbers

15:37 schestowitz-TR; they need to understand they are watched closely

15:38 techrigthssec; ack


4 PM, January 25

16:27 schestowitz-TR; TikTok https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tiktok-election-gen-z-voters/ | Source: The Nation

↺ https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/tiktok-election-gen-z-voters/

16:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The Growing Political Power of TikTok | The Nation

16:36 schestowitz-TR; literacy https://truthout.org/articles/media-literacy-for-young-people-is-crucial-but-rarely-taught-in-schools/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/media-literacy-for-young-people-is-crucial-but-rarely-taught-in-schools/

16:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Media Literacy for Young People Is Crucial But Rarely Taught in Schools - Truthout

16:37 schestowitz-TR; the two above, combined -> diaster

16:43 schestowitz-TR; "had many likes in it" != legit

16:43 techrigthssec; Source evaluation is no longer taught anywhere AFAIK

16:43 techrigthssec; Absolutely


5 PM, January 25

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