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01:45 schestowitz-pi2; psydruid: https://www.manutd.com/en/matches/matchcenter?matchId=2336399
01:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.manutd.com | Manchester United vs Barcelona - UEFA Europa League 23 February 2023 | Manchester United | Manchester United
01:45 schestowitz-pi2; 4-3
01:46 schestowitz-pi2; https://www.manutd.com/en/matches/matchcenter?matchId=2336399#
01:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.manutd.com | Manchester United vs Barcelona - UEFA Europa League 23 February 2023 | Manchester United | Manchester United
02:16 schestowitz-TR2; the sad reality of work https://dilbert.com/strip/2023-02-22
02:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Dilbert Does Great Work - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2023-02-22 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
02:16 schestowitz-TR2; i did a part and a meme about this in the sirius series
02:16 schestowitz-TR2; i learned this first hand
02:59 schestowitz-pi2; [02:58] <schestowitz-pi2> re http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/24/FOSSDA_Project_Introduced.shtml
02:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines FOSSDA Project Introduced
02:59 schestowitz-pi2; [02:59] <schestowitz-pi2> the founder is a bit of a Microsoft (CodePlex IIRC), but i have had her in my feeds. just a word of caution
03:24 techrights[sec]; re: FOSSDA so then the goal would be revisionism and injecting that revisionism
03:24 techrights[sec]; into the official record
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; could be
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; judging by her blog this past two years
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; it's lawyerism
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; and corporate-freiendly openwashing at times
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; not very keen on GPL iirc
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; christine hall just gave that some coverage
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; but hall = former OSI
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; and the site, foss force, almost always attacked RMS
03:25 schestowitz-pi2; even ifit was "brucie" doing tyhe attacks
03:25 techrights[sec]; Exactly: revisionist history
03:26 schestowitz-pi2; iirc, mozilla is sponsoring this
03:26 schestowitz-pi2; unless I conflate this with other news
03:26 schestowitz-pi2; let me check
03:26 schestowitz-pi2; "I am thrilled to announce that, with generous support from Mozilla and the Apache Foundation, we have officially launched FOSSDA, the Free and Open Source Stories Digital Archive. It's time to tell the story of the free and open source movement!" http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/23/Browsers_Google_Chrome_and_Mozilla_Firefox.shtml
03:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Browsers: Google/Chrome and Mozilla/Firefox
03:27 schestowitz-pi2; the open source movement
03:27 schestowitz-pi2; yay! the github movement
03:34 techrights[sec]; So Google weighs in, via Mozilla. Google was only possible because of FOSS but
03:34 techrights[sec]; there are so many microsofters there now that the culture has become decidedly
03:34 techrights[sec]; anti-FOSS and all the good people left ages ago.
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; gulag laid off dibona
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; he was anti-rms
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; but their chief 'FOSS' person last I checked
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; Gulag has a nose for money
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; noithing else
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; it's not even gulag anymore
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; it's "ALPHABET"
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; and watch who was put in charge of YouTUbe
03:35 schestowitz-pi2; like Mozilla putting MARKETING and AD people from FB and Twitter in change of Firefox
03:36 techrights[sec]; The presence of M$ culture there also explains the pervasive sexual harassment
03:36 techrights[sec]; and misconduct.
03:40 techrights[sec]; . Nym-shifting to avoid various things.
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; can you take a look at signs that fossda is revisionism?
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; then we can point out who's behind it
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; who funds it
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; and caution a priori
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; i saw the press release, foss force, then the mozilla thing i just linked to
03:42 schestowitz-pi2; it's still early enough for preventive 'strike'
03:46 techrights[sec]; THe microsofters present there can be called out as such and their antaganism
03:46 techrights[sec]; to the movement, its principles, and (especially) its principals disqualifies
03:46 techrights[sec]; them even from participation let alone taking the lead. Again, this looks like
03:46 techrights[sec]; the main goal is rewriting history in the image of His Billness.
03:46 schestowitz-pi2; did they or she sign the anti-RMS petition?
03:47 schestowitz-pi2; also, if there already hostile material under that name/unberella?
03:50 schestowitz-pi2; does that mention work with Microsoft?
03:50 schestowitz-pi2; or is it more like Breton removing the Rothschild Bank from his
03:50 schestowitz-pi2; resume?
03:51 techrights[sec]; Not sure yet.
03:51 techrights[sec]; Some background writing:
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://fossa.com/blog/oss-license-compliance-expert-heather-meeker-agpl/
03:51 techrights[sec]; and background material:
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://www.techlawpartners.com/heather
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://heathermeeker.com/a-brief-history-of-java-licensing/
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-OSS License Compliance Expert Heather Meeker on the AGPL - FOSSA
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.techlawpartners.com | Heather Meeker Tech Law Partners LLP
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-heathermeeker.com | A Brief History of Java Licensing Copyleft Currents
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://heathermeeker.com/open-source-faq/what-should-my-company-know-about-open-source/
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-heathermeeker.com | What should my company know about open source? Copyleft Currents
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://heathermeeker.com/open-source-faq/what-are-the-most-difficult-questions-in-open-source-licensing/
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-heathermeeker.com | What are the most difficult questions in open source licensing? Copyleft Currents
03:51 techrights[sec]; https://heathermeeker.com/open-source-faq/basic-open-source-software-licensing/
03:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-heathermeeker.com | Basic open source software licensing Copyleft Currents
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; i followed her blog for years
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; iirc, she did 'consulting' or more for microsoft
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; she struck me as a corporate, nose-for-money shill
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; not a community person
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; we "smell"
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; reminds me of sandler
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; getting millions on the backs of volunteers
03:56 schestowitz-pi2; without ever coding anything
03:57 techrights[sec]; licensing/
03:57 techrights[sec]; https://fossa.com/blog/heather-meeker-open-source-license-notices-automation/A
03:57 techrights[sec]; missing: https://conferences.law.stanford.edu/bestpractices2021/sessions/track-3a/
03:57 techrights[sec]; some text, audio, and video:
03:57 techrights[sec]; https://www.pli.edu/faculty/heather-j.-meeker-i288590
03:57 techrights[sec]; But to answer the one question, her name does not seem to be on the anti-RMS
03:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://fossa.com/blog/heather-meeker-open-source-license-notices-automation/a/ )
03:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-conferences.law.stanford.edu | Track A: AI, IP, and Data Interoperability - Digital Economy Best Practices 2021 Digital Economy Best Practices 2021
03:57 techrights[sec]; letter.
03:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.pli.edu | Heather J. Meeker - Practising Law Institute
03:58 techrights[sec]; https://fossa.com/blog/heather-meeker-open-source-license-notices-automation/
03:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Heather Meeker on Open Source License Notices and Automation - FOSSA
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; just want to be sure we would not be over-reacting
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; and have remorse later
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; maybe it's a case of,
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; let's wait and see
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; judge the site/s by what it says
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; microsoft stefano, i gave lots of chace to him btw, even welcomed him to osi
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; but he turned out to be just a waterboy of bill and lolita
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; $150k a year does things to people who used to be reasonable
04:01 schestowitz-pi2; iirc, for sandler it was $220,000 a year in 2020
04:02 techrights[sec]; Sure. Best to investigate first and be sure one way or another.
04:02 techrights[sec]; ack
04:03 schestowitz-pi2; if later on FOSSDA turns out to be rogue at least we have some material ready to give possible
04:03 schestowitz-pi2; explanation
04:03 schestowitz-pi2; inc. professional background and funding source (Alphabet Mozilla)
04:08 techrights[sec]; youtube.com/watch?v=TAwzfIqx8K8
04:08 schestowitz[TR]; Presented by Heather Meeker, General Partner, OSS Capital & FOSSDAFOSSDA -- the Free and Open Source Stories Digital Archive -- is an oral history project fo...
04:09 schestowitz[TR]; Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?youtube.com/watch?v=TAwzfIqx8K8
04:22 techrights[sec]; Most unfortunately the "survey" linked to at the FOSSDA site is run by
04:22 techrights[sec]; mailchimp
04:22 techrights[sec]; so it is blocked by a lot of proprietary javascript as well as not under the
04:22 techrights[sec]; control of FOSSDA, who knows what information Mailchimp collects and then sells
04:22 schestowitz-pi2; mozilla uses github (micreosoft) for "telemetry"
04:22 schestowitz-pi2; thes epeople talk legalete
04:22 schestowitz-pi2; *legalese
04:22 schestowitz-pi2; they are not "activists"
04:27 techrights[sec]; The site may say FOSS but the text of the survey is only about OSS
04:27 techrights[sec]; Well, by focussing only on OSS, they exclude the FOSS community itself.
04:27 techrights[sec]; by definition.
04:27 techrights[sec]; That said, I hope they can get Larry Wall interviewed, and that they are
04:27 techrights[sec]; able to rephrase their wording and branding such that the original FOSS
04:27 techrights[sec]; community from back before OSS was even a thing and it was only FS can
04:27 techrights[sec]; participate.
04:27 techrights[sec]; Seriously that's a small but useful action that the FSF could take.
04:27 techrights[sec]; Who remains at the FSF that could do such outreach?
04:27 techrights[sec]; The videos are hosted over on www.aviaryplatform.com :(
04:29 techrights[sec]; No connections to people who can self-host apparently
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; for most things, self-hosting is not even that hard
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; there are far more complex tasks out there
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; and many people who are out of the workforce know how to deploy and self-host
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; they just need to be paid properly
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; just moments ago in kitchen |just protein shake) i was thinking of sirius
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; how they never rewarded workers for working extra
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; like solving issues
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; improving perf
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; or adding some features
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; no promotion
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; no bonus
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; same salary as in 2011
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; if not lower!
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; how does a company like this expect to motivate staff?
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; people will embrace the "just enough" mindset
04:32 schestowitz-pi2; and "minimum not to get in trouble"
04:33 schestowitz-pi2; dilbert
04:34 techrights[sec]; The bar for that is low and yet it was not reached.
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; last year, about 3 times, I kept telling them
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; you can NEVER hire any talent or staff worth a f*
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; given how the company is run
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; and indeed, turned out they had lied about trying to
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; said they'd look into hiring
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; then admitting they had not even started
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; we were becoming understaffed and unmotivated
04:34 schestowitz-pi2; all of us
04:36 techrights[sec]; It doesn't. It merely exploits them.
04:36 techrights[sec]; Once thatr "minimum not to get in trouble" becomes an established culture,
04:36 techrights[sec]; the nation infected with it is a goner.
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; i have just checked companies house
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; for any further filings
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; none yet
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; i have a bottleneck on the pension thing
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; as ex-colleague is looking into one pension that 'vanished'
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; if we find it, then the nature of the others' scandal will be different
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; this is painfully slow
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; much likie pensions
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; the ever-expanding window, like "40 years from now"
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; if... if....
04:41 schestowitz-pi2; Putin, NATO, hyper-inflation...
04:42 psydruid; schestowitz-pi2: I like both teams, but Ten Hag has done something remarkable and made a team out of the players that actually plays football again
04:43 psydruid; as he has done countless times here in the Netherlands as well as in his time at Bayern, when he was coaching the second team while Pep was coaching the first team
04:46 schestowitz-pi2; now they are in the same City(TM)
04:50 schestowitz-TR2; The oligarchs' media: make more people take more debt https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/23/an-aging-population-poses-issues-just-like-the-baby-boom-did/ | Source: Counter Punch
04:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-An Aging Population Poses Issues, Just Like the Baby Boom Did - CounterPunch.org
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; the fish is still going
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; made is past 1.5 years today
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; just put her in pyrex with epson salt
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; to help defeat the parasite
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; unless it's too late already
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; seems like a miracle she has come this far
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; 96 hours since isolation
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; no food, not eating, no poo either
05:37 schestowitz-pi2; /*epsom
05:38 schestowitz-pi2; sometimes we try a fresh large flake
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08:33 schestowitz-pi2; today'snational publishers
08:33 schestowitz-pi2; are short
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; short of details too
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; if they cover a technical matter, no technical details
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; we know there was outage
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; the customers affected know why
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; but what happened?
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; who is to blame?
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; it's hard to get answers out of companies
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; they typicall insist "it's back"
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; and refuse to provider any details
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; I had such experience but forgot... cannot name them
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; sirius did this to client too
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; "it's back, don't ask what happened or whose fault"
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; "shit happened..."
08:34 schestowitz-pi2; they keep info from getting out using threats, intimidating, spsying, or perception of these
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11:30 schestowitz-pi2; db
11:30 schestowitz-pi2; my video notes atm:
11:30 schestowitz-pi2; videos suepo+epo
11:30 schestowitz-pi2; epo wiki
11:30 schestowitz-pi2; campinos
11:30 schestowitz-pi2; videos scale
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; that latter is SCALE
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; is there anything left to be said about it though?
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; we'll probably have many EPO leaks this year
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; and another round of github layoffs later in the year
11:31 techrights[sec]; Nothing that I can think of on the spot
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; other than that, and maybe pluton, i see not much "annoying" in the news
11:31 schestowitz-pi2; hope it stays that way
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; seeing the latest from Economist
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; i think aloud
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; is this the cliff edge for youtube
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; it's not growing revenue is down, ads up
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; and i don't see that changing
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; except as a tool of (propaganda) war
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; russia saw the threat and has "tube" of its own
11:35 schestowitz-pi2; but youtube could swallow massive losses and expand to every country on the planet
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; that's why on monday i thought they might have another go at "preiums" of some kind
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; passing more costs eiother to watchers or "creators"
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; not sure which
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; the new manager seem unfit and unqualified
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; unless the goal is "product"
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; that is what they call video hosting? PRODUCT?
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; YouTube produces NOTHING
11:40 schestowitz-pi2; at least netflix uses to produce a LITTLE
11:43 techrights[sec]; And Youtube's storage costs are only ever rising
11:43 techrights[sec]; However, it has too many ads to effectively serve as a propaganda channel.
11:43 techrights[sec]; The ads prevent people from watching the service in general and drives away
11:43 techrights[sec]; much of the potential audience. It's not ads in and of themsevles, people put
11:43 techrights[sec]; up with those, it's the excessive amount and intrusive implementation.
11:43 techrights[sec]; So if it loses too much of its value as a propaganda medium, the bailouts
11:43 techrights[sec]; will cease.
11:43 techrights[sec]; See Rossmann's latest complaint about Youtub:
11:43 techrights[sec]; "Google okays human trafficking, bans independent repair - MAKES SENSE!"
11:43 techrights[sec]; https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/google-okays-human-trafficking,-bans:8
11:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Google okays human trafficking, bans independent repair - MAKES SENSE!
11:43 techrights[sec]; "creators" are moving away, forced away really, and what's left then?
11:43 techrights[sec]; If the plan is to pull the plug then it does not matter if they have
11:43 techrights[sec]; appointed an unqualified marketeer to head the unit.
11:43 techrights[sec]; The product would be the propaganda and steering the recommendation algorithms
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; yes, that one video (saw title, did not click) was in my mind also
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; they drive away the sort of "rare" stuff you don't and won't get on national
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; broadcast
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; as if the goal is to compere with TV channels
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; that won't work!
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; btw, today i logged in to isp www 'site' (JS)
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; to check phone bill etc.
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; they stick popups these, trying to upsell
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; and they mention "netflix" by name
11:44 schestowitz-pi2; yay!
11:44 techrights[sec]; Not even rare stuff.
11:46 schestowitz-pi2; i sort of worry and not worry about it
11:46 schestowitz-pi2; i'm barely a stakeholder in that outcome
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; based on 100 days in apachetop TR does 2mb/sec, mostly videos
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; now 1.9mb/sec
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; and a lot is old videos
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; i don't need to worry about "moderation" or host changing ToS
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; with this fast connection i will also habitually rsync the whole lot as insurance
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; dns+hosting
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; dns is not owned by a company
11:47 schestowitz-pi2; (per se)
11:47 techrights[sec]; NO, exactly, but domains can still end up in trouble via the wrong hosting
11:47 techrights[sec]; provider.
11:47 techrights[sec]; s/NO/No/
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; without dns there is ipfs
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; was gonna mention this, but not important enough to bother you with,
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; ipfs regain some reliability 2 days ago
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; prior to this it would sometimes time out on remote requests
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; as conflicts escalate ipfs MIGHT become more attractive
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; balkanised Web and all
11:49 schestowitz-pi2; the LE/CA issue was brought up again today, in #techrights
11:50 techrights[sec]; or registrar
11:50 techrights[sec]; IPFS is too fringe, impossile to use, and doesn't scale.
11:50 techrights[sec]; ^ that's all I know about IPFS
11:50 techrights[sec]; Certificate authorities and how they are mismanaged in browsers negate
11:50 techrights[sec]; any potential privacy in browsers, and that IMHO is on purpose these days
11:50 techrights[sec]; or it would have been redesigned long ago already
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; fringe is better than universally deplatformed, persona non grata
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; i know from clients, thankfully, what aws and clownflare do
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; many use this crap, also for CAs
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; never mind godaddy
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; awful company!
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; the chain of packet exchange means censorship, spying etc.
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; mostly by the US
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; evcerything gets routed through there
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; unless it is very very fringe of highly techjnical
11:52 schestowitz-pi2; *or
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; moz is advancing this fraud of 'secure' or 'private' DNS
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; with preloaded options
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; guess which LOL!
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; I got the latest ff ESR in Deb11
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; wtf?? this is not free software
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; it's a genderless "fox" logo
11:53 schestowitz-pi2; that rides the old brand
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; ftr: clownflare is mitm for DNS, www traffic, CAs, even IPFS
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; they also toy around with other protocols
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; they LOSE money
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; the longer they operate, the poorer they becomee
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; never mind all this "potential" or "inertia"
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; that's MBA BS
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; The Empire is willing to lose money just to make sure you cannot make any
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; and they are very very mean
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; (Clingely.... about Microsoft ;-) )
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; same mindset
11:58 schestowitz-pi2; zero-sumism
12:06 techrights[sec]; Clownflare is a *very* pervasive problem nowadays and blocks / monitors an
12:06 techrights[sec]; an overwhelming majority of sites' traffic, both coming and going
12:06 schestowitz-pi2; (fish still not eating, but looks surprisingly healthy on the surface)
12:06 schestowitz-pi2; clownflare has gotten only more aggressive over time
12:06 schestowitz-pi2; i ranted in irc the other day because the w3c validator, which I've used
12:06 schestowitz-pi2; a lot since... like forever? ... got put behind clownflare JS crap, sometimes
12:06 schestowitz-pi2; "pick plane/truck..." ... about 2 years ago
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; it's not compatible with falkon
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; so i need to still open firefox sometimes
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; in the past it did its own thing but 1-2 weeks ago it started asking me to click
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; on thigns.... all this just to check my posts have valid xhtml
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; clownflare is STILL losing money
12:07 schestowitz-pi2; IMAGINE what would happen if it started to 'CASH IN'
12:09 techrights[sec]; Yes, it blocks the W3C validators, all of them, from use.
12:09 techrights[sec]; If you do not let their javascripts run wild on your system then they deny
12:09 techrights[sec]; access to the RSS and Atom feed validators.
12:09 techrights[sec]; I suspect it already is cashing in with some level of surveillance and
12:09 techrights[sec]; perhaps minor encouragement of some sites and discouragement of others.
12:33 techrights[sec]; Some sites' visitors can get more trouble and others given an easier time,
12:33 techrights[sec]; and when done at scale that will affect the amount of visitors that stick around
12:33 techrights[sec]; and or come back, and in that way the topics those sites covered either
12:33 techrights[sec]; enhanced or suppressed.
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; rianne and i becaame familiar with the proprietary back end (web-based, not the back-end of clownflare
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; the compan) at CF
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; but correct me if I am wrong;
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; the webmaster selects mode
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; like one that blocks tor
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; but the CF "HEY HI" then uses heuristics to discriminate against the visitor
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; some get capcha
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; some not
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; some blocked
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; some need to click
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; and it depends on page
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; ane gelocation
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; and history
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; say, if you visit the site many times a day
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; or ip/cookie got you "flagged"
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; this gives CF lots of leeway for mass manipulation
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; while
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; 1) pretending to be neutral
12:36 schestowitz-pi2; 2) saying the webmaster is in complete control of this
12:45 schestowitz-pi2; feeling productive this past week in spite of not doing many videos/articles, it's not the only thing that "cou
12:45 schestowitz-pi2; nts"
13:01 schestowitz-pi2; ";next weds morning, 9am-1pm ish, will be afk; rianne's ceremony, friend joining us (athlete); confirmed
13:01 schestowitz-pi2; today
13:10 schestowitz-pi2; who was the sesame street guy who was 'reobbed'?
13:10 schestowitz-pi2; i searx'ed it
13:10 schestowitz-pi2; many refs to Morriset, who died a month ago
13:10 schestowitz-pi2; says he was co-founder o
13:10 schestowitz-pi2; of it
13:11 techrights[sec]; When?
13:11 techrights[sec]; The one guy was basically killed by Disney. The stress they put him under
13:11 techrights[sec]; sent him to the grave, according to his business / creative partner.
13:12 schestowitz-pi2; this was mentioned in re star wars and lucasfilm
13:16 techrights[sec]; Was it this?
13:16 techrights[sec]; https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/19/big-bird-missing-costume-stolen/
13:16 techrights[sec]; Or was it this?
13:16 techrights[sec]; https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/frank-oz-muppets-disney-jim-henson-b1911118.html
13:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.washingtonpost.com | Sesame Street Big Bird costume stolen from childrens circus in Australia - The Washington Post
13:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Disneys attempt to buy The Muppets is probably what killed Jim Henson, claims Frank Oz | The Independent
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; benson is the well known one that i had in mind
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; but another "co" founder died last month in his 90s
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; this is, imho, very relevant to foss or tech at large
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; many companies taken away from their founders
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; by "vultures" and "activist" investors or hedge funds
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; noorda, danger/rubin, cannot recall the docker guy's name atm ... does not matter
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; rms, lbt work in progress
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; rms is 70 on march 16
13:17 schestowitz-pi2; so they can "time him out"
13:18 techrights[sec]; Or was it this?
13:18 techrights[sec]; https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/frank-oz-muppets-disney-jim-henson-b1911118.html
13:18 techrights[sec]; Or was it this?
13:18 techrights[sec]; https://text.npr.org/2023/01/26/1151803288/sesame-street-co-creator-lloyd-morrisett-has-died-at-age-93
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-text.npr.org | 'Sesame Street' co-creator Lloyd Morrisett has died at age 93
13:18 techrights[sec]; And then rewrite him out of history with the help of many paid and unpaid weasels
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; that is what microsoft did to the mojang/minecraft founder
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; after he had opened his mouth
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; i'm not expert in this
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; but someone who knows the story told me
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; and somehow it's possible to still get the real facts on it
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; wqeasels and "vessels"
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; like the "books" about how netscape and nokia harmed themselves
13:20 schestowitz-pi2; or how torvalds basically ripped off a lecturer from the NL
13:23 techrights[sec]; Those books are easily debunked but because the paid-for lies exist in printed
13:23 techrights[sec]; form they are harder to fight and those books persist (and their damage) persist
13:23 techrights[sec]; for years.
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; it is in a book, not a blog post, "SO IT MUST BE TRUE"
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; a "PUBLISHER" invested in it!
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; the battle over authority or perceived authority
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; pocock noted that when big names like "Tor" and "Debian" formally accuse you of something
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; it is hard to shake off the message
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; the same is true for some publishers, courts/govs
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; even if you are innocent
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; what's good about TR is, it does not need to "GiveAShit"(TM) about this
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; as the track record is OK
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; and we don't rely on social control media/conde nast etc.
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; rss, gemini etc.
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; if I 'fell under a bus', i am sure you and rianne can keep it going
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; the goal is to get people to push on the messages
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; e.g. on why the CA model may be flawed
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; because, in general, lies might travel faster
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; but they don't stick/persist
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; when the PR budget is gone, e.g. novell gone under, no amount of spin will prevail
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; let alone a site novell.com
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; black duck employees were moaning to me that i was destroying them (they should not say this; it
13:28 schestowitz-pi2; merely emboldens the person to carry on!)
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13:48 schestowitz-pi2; would the assertion, as below, be accurate or total BS:
13:48 schestowitz-pi2; one way to crush X is to associate the movement or grassroots around it with negative stuff
13:48 schestowitz-pi2; means to achieve that: brand confusion, division, distraction
13:48 schestowitz-pi2; i can think of non-tech parables
13:48 schestowitz-pi2; whether there is a coordinated effort against fs and other tech activism is hard to determine
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; without leaks like halloween docs
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; youtube is very shaky ground for any form of activism
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; people end up self-censoring
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; even benign things like discussing how apple spies on your files
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; or how to repair a device that broke
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; in youtube, channels come and go all the time, based on "algorithms"
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; a planned "outcome", top-to-bottom
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; but i disgress somewhat
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; notice how the debate about feminism, climate, and antiwar changes
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; binary pro- and anti-putin, politics about how many bathrooms stalls are needed,
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; and 'activism' for climate like pouring paint on drawings
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; guess which things the media devotes the EMPHASIS
13:49 schestowitz-pi2; like "billy is bad coz [strawman"
13:49 techrights[sec]; The defeat comes through associating the projects and their goals with
13:49 techrights[sec]; irrelevant (to the project) divisive goals. Divide and conquer.
13:50 schestowitz-pi2; see latest blog post from lxoliva
13:50 schestowitz-pi2; ge covered it in re fsf
13:50 schestowitz-pi2; *he
13:57 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> "Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols is having another senior moment. He judges Free software only by the catalogue that Microsoft controls, using proprietary software. He needs to retire to avoid alienating the few who still trusted his writings." https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/24/who_writes_open_source/
13:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Who writes Linux and open source software? The Register
14:07 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> SJVN is either willfully ignorant or lying; judging Microsoft "contributions" based only on what it is controlling in its platform is propaganda that goes back to 2014, when it made plans to buy the company; those who don't trust Microsoft don't host anything there and SJVN does not count them. How foolish. This is not your daddy's "SJVN"; this is a clown. https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/24/who_writes_open_source/
14:08 techrights[sec]; checking
14:08 techrights[sec]; The latest Oliva blog post: https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2022-12-26-digital-vegan-walled-culture.en.
14:08 techrights[sec]; html
14:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fsfla.org | ::[FSFLA]:: Digital Vegan, Walled Culture
14:09 schestowitz-pi2; sorry, maybe the one before that
14:09 schestowitz-pi2; about fsf
14:09 schestowitz-pi2; and how people tried to derail it
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; it was over a month ago
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; i reposted it in TR
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; appeasing trolls is pointless
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; it alienates people
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; and you appease nobody, except you think you do
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; referring to singular person as plural and saying it "with the wrong tone or attitude"
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; is just another perceived sin
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; hateful people who tear things down would look for any excuse
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; and best thing is, change the subject to what matters
14:19 schestowitz-pi2; madness belongs in the asylum
14:24 techrights[sec]; Appeasment is always a losing proposition.
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; compromise is almost a synonym
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; but either way, in this case, "meeting half way" is meaningless
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; like theist meeting half way with atheist
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; or agreeing that science and pseudo-science can co-exist
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; better todebate other scientists
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; even if >50% of the nation believes in shit like rapture
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; science is not based on "market share" or surveys
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; or "public opinion"
14:26 schestowitz-pi2; code does not give a shit, either
14:31 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> New York Times just put itself in a hot spot by giving platform to divisive nonsense https://www.thenation.com/article/society/new-york-times-open-letter-more-to-say/ | Source: The Nation
14:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | I Signed the New York Times Open Letter. I Have More to Say. | The Nation
14:36 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> "great resignation" as a great Big Lie https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/24/on-the-great-resignation-interrogating-the-neoliberal-narrative/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-On the Great Resignation: Interrogating the Neoliberal Narrative - CounterPunch.org
14:36 schestowitz-pi2; terrible lie
14:36 schestowitz-pi2; nobody even uses that term after the dece-feb wave of layoffs
14:36 schestowitz-pi2; as it would not hold water
14:42 schestowitz-pi2; news inn uk nation media today: price of paste to double
14:42 schestowitz-pi2; beyond our control, but let's hope the war ends soon
14:42 schestowitz-pi2; not a full recovery, but less bloodshed
14:42 schestowitz-pi2; *pasta, not paste
14:57 schestowitz-pi2; <techrights-news> Neoliberals Declared War on the Poor https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/02/24/when-neoliberals-declared-war-on-the-poor/ | Source: Counter Punch
14:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-When Neoliberals Declared War on the Poor - CounterPunch.org
17:27 schestowitz-pi2; will be afk soon
17:27 schestowitz-pi2; fish still ok
17:27 schestowitz-pi2; almost 5 days in hospital
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