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03:46 *Now talking on #boycottnovell
03:46 *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social
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04:38 schestowitz-TR2; [04:38] <techrights-news> "Earlier this week, I attended an excellent talk with Frances Haugen, the well-known Facebook whistleblower, who delivered a compelling case that the social media giant, driven by profit maximization, consistently errs on the side of technical choices that keeps users engaged, angry, and on the platform, often at an enormous societal cost." https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/10/why-the-real-bill-c-18-threat-is-
04:38 schestowitz-TR2; bill-c-18/
04:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.michaelgeist.ca | Why the Real Bill C-18 Threat is Bill C-18 - Michael Geist
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04:43 schestowitz-TR2; months ago I deleted everything Google, inc. Google News [sic]
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; I left just two feeds, temporarily, to help me discover RSS feeds I had not yet added
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; like one that I added this morning
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; now Google Noise increase the RSS spying, reverting back removal of that
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; so those remaining two TOO will be removed shortly
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; on another note, some sites LACK RSS feeds completely
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; even mainstream ones
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; some have just one feed for everything, no specificity
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; so for those I tend to check a certain page every week
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; overt time those pages update a LOT less frequently -- to the point of being stale
04:43 schestowitz-TR2; some I demoted yesterday to "check every MONTH"
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05:54 libertybox_; yes, I saw yesterday that Google had replaced the direct links with redirections
05:54 libertybox_; and thus rendered their "feed" unusable. With the redirection in place of a
05:54 libertybox_; normal link, it is not possible to know where the destination may end up.
05:54 libertybox_; That's not good, at best, and nominally dangerous.
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06:08 schestowitz-TR2; rant: (more in irc)
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; had router update, managed to find out in advance by checking status every night before bedtime
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; woke up very early, 2:850am
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; after update wifi signal collission on main box
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; seems solved now, but very time-consuming to debug
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; hopefully no router updates before 2023
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; Germany Says Deaths Increased by 9% Last Month, But Thats Measuring This Year Compared to Two Years of Pandemic
06:08 schestowitz-TR2; https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/23/germany-says-deaths-increased/
06:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Germany Says Deaths Increased by 9% Last Month, But Thats Measuring This Year Compared to Two Years of Pandemic
06:22 techright-sec[2]; If the wifi is in the 2.4GHz band, there is no real way to avoid collisions
06:22 techright-sec[2]; even after negotiating with the neighbors. If the wifi is in the 5GHz band, then you pretty much have a full ran
06:22 techright-sec[2]; ge of choices since there is no overlap *and*
06:22 techright-sec[2]; so few know about it.
06:23 schestowitz-TR2; I already moved off 2.4 when you suggested it
06:23 schestowitz-TR2; the main issue was
06:23 schestowitz-TR2; I assumed it was the OTHER machine on the side of barrier needing another channel/wavelength
06:23 schestowitz-TR2; when I saw that sdynergy too had this issue I thought maybe I'm looking at the "wrong" end
06:24 techright-sec[2]; So what was the actual problem and the resolution?
06:25 schestowitz-TR2; reconnect, let the network allocate another range to this PC
06:25 techright-sec[2]; Oh, it was a DHCP problem then
06:25 techright-sec[2]; not a wi-fi problem per se
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; or maybe a neighbour waking up around 5:40am
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; 2 hours later
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; causing signal collision
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; which was not there at first
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; but who knows...
06:27 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, it's solved not and latency seems lower than before the router was rebooted
06:27 techright-sec[2]; How was it solved? I'm not following this at all, there's nothing in IRC either
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; acquiring a connection again
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; I don't know wi-fi protocol
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; but I assume that for each connection machine it negotiates some broadcasting range and sets that apart
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; a good enough buffer to avoid having to resend packets
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; and that's aside from the general channele the router uses, which can have a conflict with a neigbour
06:31 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes they suggest rebooting on auto mode so it can scan for channels that are 'optimal'
06:36 techright-sec[2]; First there is a radio connection, then IP, then DHCP, then TCP/IP
06:36 techright-sec[2]; NO! Automode makes worse and if someone in the neighborhood has done that, then
06:36 techright-sec[2]; they are who is messing up the signal for the block. :(
06:36 techright-sec[2]; In 2.4GHz the only acceptable choices are 1, 6, or 11. Choose the one which
06:36 techright-sec[2]; has the least traffic. If there are any neighbors on 2-5 or 7-10 they will
06:36 techright-sec[2]; be completely destroying the signal through interference and will have to
06:36 techright-sec[2]; be spoken with for negotiation since it might be illegal and certainly unethical
06:36 techright-sec[2]; to spend the trivial amount of time it would take to crack their router and
06:36 techright-sec[2]; set the numbers to something sensible.
06:36 techright-sec[2]; On 5GHz,the channes to not overlap. So just choose the one there with the
06:36 techright-sec[2]; fewest access points or, failing that, least traffic.
06:36 techright-sec[2]; tldr; 2.4GHz is nearly pointless in a crowded neigborhood, even not counting
06:36 techright-sec[2]; the other 2.4GHz appliances or military equipment
06:38 techright-sec[2]; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-221022.html#tOct%2022%2003:01:38
06:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, October 22, 2022
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06:41 techright-sec[2]; iwlist wlan0 scan
06:41 techright-sec[2]; will show what's in the area and give an idea about interference, if you wish
06:41 techright-sec[2]; to hunt down and negotiate with the polluters of the airwaves
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06:46 schestowitz-TR2; ok, just reconnected the third machine
06:46 schestowitz-TR2; will need to reboot the cisco phone next
06:46 schestowitz-TR2; seems there is still adjustment happening
06:46 schestowitz-TR2; but I hope no such worries for the next 2 months
06:47 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot block those updates or delay the reboot
06:47 schestowitz-TR2; maybe if I reboot after the patch I can 'reschedule' it
06:47 schestowitz-TR2; there's no way to find out when the reboots are scheduled for
06:47 schestowitz-TR2; the times vary
06:47 schestowitz-TR2; and I need to update dns asap
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06:48 techright-sec[2]; ack
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08:06 schestowitz-TR2; CDC: US Births Decreased About 10% in Half a Decade, Infant Mortality Stayed About the Same https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/23/infant-mortality-pre-and-post-covid-19/
08:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive CDC: US Births Decreased About 10% in Half a Decade, Infant Mortality Stayed About the Same
08:23 techrights-sec[2]; ack
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08:35 schestowitz-TR2; in irc we compared life span (or expcted) to germany
08:35 schestowitz-TR2; us males are about 73 now
08:35 schestowitz-TR2; germany is about 5 yearsd lonfer for men and women
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08:38 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-03/longer-life-expectancy-blue-states-than-red-ones
↺ https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-08-03/longer-life-expectancy-blue-states-than-red-ones
08:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.latimes.com | People live longer in blue states than red; new study points to impact of state policies - Los Angeles Times
08:39 techrights-sec[2]; https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6221922/ (older)
08:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Americas Declining Well-Being, Health, and Life Expectancy: Not Just a White Problem - PMC
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; rianne could find not a single item for TM this morning!
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; not even "enough" android leftovers
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; I'll wait for daily links
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; OTA (lagrange case study)
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; before OTA
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; (better to siolate for 2 years and realise WTF is going on than risk losing 2 whole years of one's life)
08:42 schestowitz-TR2; OTA
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09:14 schestowitz-TR2; thanks for links!
09:14 schestowitz-TR2; I'm short on material
09:14 schestowitz-TR2; added draft
09:15 techrights-sec[2]; np
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; regarding the older subject, pensions are not "good" for capitalism
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; so the "religion" in some country is,
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; collect money, don't worry about how long you have to actually spend it
09:17 schestowitz-TR2; which is a form of 'brain damage'
09:17 schestowitz-TR2; spoke to my dad about it yesterday
09:28 techrights-sec[2]; ack
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10:09 schestowitz-TR2; check email
10:09 schestowitz-TR2; am reading also
10:09 schestowitz-TR2; and will send feedback
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; ack
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; checking
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; not just facebook but other social control media (even if they are mostly owned
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; by facebook). For the younger generations, tiktok is causing great destruction.
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; I'd mention yet again that few institutions have IT departments any longer
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; and have instead m$ resellers on the payroll working against the institution
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; itself in most cases or merely neutral and working for itself in the best of
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; cases.
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; That's Bill's legacy: making bad engineering acceptable and common place
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; No one gets fired even though "tools grumble and grind, then fail"
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; Not those that brought in the crappy tools and not those that brought in the
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; untrained monkeys in place of IT people
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; Which "they" can move web pages? At one institution I tracked the time it
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; took to get one document posted to the official web site and it took well over
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; 8 man-hours, for a finished document in its final form, just to get it public.
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; As for " rats who have forgotten life before the maze " didn't Douglas Adams have something to say about acceptan
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; ce or rejection of situations being related
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; to their status relative to one's life? It was along the lines of stuff that
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; was in place during youth had "always been there and was part of the natural
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; order of things" and stuff that arrived when one was middle aged was considered
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; problematic and a threat. That is of course hyperbole but I think the first
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; part is spot on, for rats that grew up in the maze there is nothing else
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; imaginable, nope not even imaginable.
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; One thing that is important to remember, to put the original goals in context,
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; was the Steve Jobs' sales pitch about the computer being a tool, like a
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; bicyce for the mind. There are good transcripts out there worth quoting.
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; Computerss have become inverted in purpose. Instead of being a tool to
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; amplify results, they have become a vehicle for manipulation and control of
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; the ostensible user as well as a time sink for what the late David Graeber
10:10 techrights-sec[2]; identified as "bullshit" jobs. Indeed, really few areas have seen advancement
10:11 techrights-sec[2]; in recent years. Embedded systems are one area but that is mostly through
10:11 techrights-sec[2]; better software to make it easy to program.
10:11 techrights-sec[2]; The term "system" ought to be defined near the start to provide context for
10:11 techrights-sec[2]; the rest of the document.
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10:13 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, I will send my feeedback and yours now
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; it's a good essay
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; I want rianne to read it too as I told her the gist and she agrees
10:13 techrights-sec[2]; what's on screen there is about 1/3 so if there was something missed in the s
10:13 techrights-sec[2]; crollback it's gone
10:14 schestowitz-TR2; I see about 40 lines of schollback from you
10:14 schestowitz-TR2; ytalk handles it OK
10:15 techrights-sec[2]; " The best system is no system. " -> If it's not there, it can't break : KISS
10:15 techrights-sec[2]; ok here there is less so I see about 1/3 of what was written
10:17 schestowitz; In my first pass (slow reading) I hesitated to suggest any rephrasings and instead focus only on grammar/typos.
10:17 schestowitz; "just a game now" 3 - full stop missing
10:17 schestowitz; "internet" = uppercase I
10:17 schestowitz; "power as it's fruits." -> its
10:17 schestowitz; "sned my children" -> send
10:17 schestowitz; "Microsoft with it's Office365" -> its
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; The OpenBSD project has had a lot to say about simplicity. They have pointed
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; out time and again, based on real-life examples in other projects, that
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; complexity (and difficulty in use) is anathema to "security". Though one does
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; have to be very careful and define (confidentiality, integrity, availability)
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; security at the beginning to avoid microsofters coopting the term to stand
10:24 techrights-sec[2]; for their own job security and nothing more.
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14:00 techrights-sec[2]; When promoting Gemini, it probably helps to mention that it needs a separate
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; client. The last article kind of alluded to that but did not quite say directly
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; nor did it link to any page with direct informatin about Gemini clients. It
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; would be great to have links to an overview of Gemini clients.
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; https://ghuntley.com/fracture/
14:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ghuntley.com | Visual Studio Code is designed to fracture
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; Friedman mentioned briefly
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; """Maybe we need a new movement (or revisit past ideas from the 70s) that focuses on ensuring the openness regard
14:00 techrights-sec[2]; ing freedoms of computing () that combat proprietary SaaS offerings? """
14:41 schestowitz-TR2; sorry, was afak for 3 hours
14:41 schestowitz-TR2; the router thing determined the day
14:41 schestowitz-TR2; I might now delete that remnant of gulag
14:41 schestowitz-TR2; trying to make sure I got what I need by now (pertinent sites that still cover gnu/linux sometimes)
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15:31 techrights-sec[2]; ack
15:39 schestowitz-TR2; I've been in contact with ffii re upc
15:40 schestowitz-TR2; I have a clearer picture now
15:40 schestowitz-TR2; tbh, we should cover the issue but not put ALL our energy where the issues have already
15:40 schestowitz-TR2; been laid out clearly and legal challenges will certainly arrive
15:40 schestowitz-TR2; I like where farnell is going
15:40 schestowitz-TR2; I really enjoy his articles and wish we had more like these in MSM
15:41 techrights-sec[2]; ack
15:41 techrights-sec[2]; Maybe there is a low effort way to make sure the UPC stays dead and buried
15:41 techrights-sec[2]; Farnell could possibly shop out his writings as a guest author to a few
15:41 techrights-sec[2]; publications?
15:41 schestowitz-TR2; it is not a way to make a living
15:42 techrights-sec[2]; No, it would not be profitable but would help broadcast an important message.
15:42 schestowitz-TR2; yes, with family to pprovide for time is limited
15:43 techrights-sec[2]; Ah. Of course.
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15:45 schestowitz-TR2; nhs (wife, iirc) under attack and rising costs of living make it harder to pursue hobbies, volunteer
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; rianne ad I can live OK on less than 1k, family with kids need several K's
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; the mortgage alone can be 1k
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; chomsky's theory about habving boot on the neck with student loans seema applicable here
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; as costs rise activism becomes less afe and harder to justify
15:45 schestowitz-TR2; as people struggle just for survival
15:46 techrights-sec[2]; Yes student loans are a way to drop kick youth into debt / wage slavery
15:46 techrights-sec[2]; then life becomes a hand-to-mouth struggle to stay afloat instead of having
15:46 techrights-sec[2]; time to improve, advance, or be involved in society. It is that last point
15:46 techrights-sec[2]; that the oligarchy really has an issue with and aims to prevent.
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; rms was atatcked to discourage
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; 1) people listening to him
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; 2) people thinking similarly or expressing similar views
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; 3) there are other reasons, set them aside
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; I think UPC issues are for states to fight over at the end, we just need to supply them with some facts
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; but re farnell and harmful impact of tech, if you get enough people to talk similarly, things can change
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; same with convincign people to thun "self-service"
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; so it's a war of ideas
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; the media other kills itself or gets killed
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; or gets spamnilled
16:03 schestowitz-TR2; /sthun/shun/
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; yes it was to discourage software freedom and discussion of software freedom
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; in general
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; quite
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; spamnil is just noise not any kind of media or reporting of any kind
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; It's rather too bad that he actively chose that model because back in his
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; muktware days he had some glimmers of promise in his work. But it looks like
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; he did that just enough to get his foot in the door and may have had his eye
16:13 techrights-sec[2]; on selling out from very early on
16:14 schestowitz-TR2; he is in a dying occupation
16:14 schestowitz-TR2; like his former employer in india
16:14 schestowitz-TR2; he's not a techie
16:17 techrights-sec[2]; advertising / marketeering is far from dying out unfortunately
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; I'd say,
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; he came from corproate 'journalism'
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; not the same as PR
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; but close to it
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; sean michael kernel (ex/current LinuxToday) sort of defected as well
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; just to survive
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; there are barely any job openbings for investigators in the press
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; those that still exist have lots of competition over them
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; due to the layoffs
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; Sheela Microsoft and the wife James Z probably chose to keep Spamnil
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; because he was easier to control and he would promote and resort to fraud
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; he ruined linux.com already and did not stop there
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; I am sometimes reluctant to use the term "Linux" anymore
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; because of what this brand implies
16:21 schestowitz-TR2; rust, "microsoftr loves", clown, etc.
16:23 techrights-sec[2]; I think that was the reason he was hired :(
16:23 techrights-sec[2]; Yes he is helping tarnish or even kill the brand
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; 9 days, 9 views
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; latest from lunduke is beter...
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; [checking]
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; lunduke 2 days, 380 views
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; just like in the old days
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; I clicked on that the other day just to check
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; i think you'd have to judge for yourself
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; butit was awful
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; it was just him talking about himself and marketing his "membership"
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; nothing on the screen, no face, no nothing
16:27 schestowitz-TR2; just persistent promotional banner
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; for 39:40 min:sec
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; the video before this one is older and 150 views
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; in youtube
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; he used to get thousands before he told people to quit youtube
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; he purges himself, then has remorse
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; in one video that he pinned it shows him drinking a ban of beer, I think
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; cheap macho-muchu
16:28 schestowitz-TR2; like fabsh from linuxoutlaws
16:29 schestowitz-TR2; it's like walking into a pub to find a singer who was once on tv or had chart hits, just trying to make rebound
16:46 techrights-sec[2]; yes that's how bryan rolls these days. It is months between useful or even
16:46 techrights-sec[2]; entertaining items on his site.
16:49 techrights-sec[2]; He has (or had) the capability and knowledge to do a comeback
16:49 techrights-sec[2]; if he really wanted to. But he hasn't covered any relevant topics hardly at
16:49 techrights-sec[2]; all for a few years now.
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; many things 'collapse' these days
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; if you do not yourself "collapse", you are better off than the average
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; I was never a fan of Lunduke
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; but when it's hard to find material I can settle for anything (almost)
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