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1 AM, August 23

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6 AM, August 23

06:00 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> (NEW): Introducing Venus, a new world for Perl 5 https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/Introducing_Venus_a_new_world_for_Perl_5.gmi

06:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Introducing Venus, a new world for Perl 5"

06:35 schestowitz-TR2; Reddit is dying based on this graph https://gs.statcounter.com/social-media-stats#monthly-200901-202208

↺ https://gs.statcounter.com/social-media-stats#monthly-200901-202208

06:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gs.statcounter.com | Social Media Stats Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats


8 AM, August 23

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08:41 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> (NEW): 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site Generators https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.gmi

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.shtml

↺ gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/23/9_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Perl_Static_Site_Generators.gmi

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines 9 Best Free and Open Source Perl Static Site Generators


9 AM, August 23

09:09 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "This is about the gathering crisis in the UK, not any other crisis-hit nation." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

↺ http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

09:09 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary

09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.antipope.org | The gathering crisis - Charlie's Diary

09:09 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Brexit hasn't delivered trade opportunities, but mountains of red tape, with a hit to the economy estimated at roughly 6% so far. But the UK economy already shrank 11% in 2020, the worst year since 1709." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

↺ http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

09:09 schestowitz-TR2; "The health service is in crisis. Inflation is wiping out pensions and savings. A general strike seems possible by the end of the year, something that hasn't hit the UK since 1926." http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

↺ http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2022/08/the-gathering-crisis.html

09:09 schestowitz-TR2; This would be absolutely disastrous for people who host from home https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-industry-energy-europe-france-winter/

↺ https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-business-industry-energy-europe-france-winter/

09:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.politico.eu | Faltering French connection leaves UK fearing winter blackouts POLITICO

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10 AM, August 23

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10:50 schestowitz-TR2; I'm reminded of the Theresa May "mexican wave" 'incident'; when BoJo does it, it's funny, when she does it we mock it

10:50 schestowitz-TR2; veiled gender discrimination; same for clothing and being promiscuous

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noon, August 23

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; I will record re the topic you suggested

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; after Daily Links

12:16 schestowitz-TR2; spamnil no activity in 4 days

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; maybe they took some action

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; rianne's bday tomorrow

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; hard to think of safe-from-covid activities, except in open spaces or very empty tram

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; re the above article (uk state), I think he cherry-picks the worst of the worst

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; from conversations I've had, we're still nowhere as bad as elsewhere

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; it's a global thing

12:17 schestowitz-TR2; even finland and switzerland have those same issues

12:17 Techrights-sec; ack

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; there are many sayings about fooling oneself

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot think of just one

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; a dear old friend asked me yesterday re covid numbers

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; concerned that the media is not covering it

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; I then pointed to my blog

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; rememeber the media also pretended it was just some 'chinese problem' until early 2020

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; when deaths and admissions were starting to overencumber hospitals

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; and morgues

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; someone came to our irc channel floating BS trheories

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; but also said it was insane that airports had placed no restrictions st all

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; in retrospect, nz dealt with it well

12:21 schestowitz-TR2; being an island too

12:22 Techrights-sec; yes it was allowed to grow, kind of on purpose

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; I'd say conflating apathy with "on purpose" is active versus passive

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; it was passively accepted, to keep the "next immediate quarter" OK

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; that's how businesses operate

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; the travel industry does not care about piling of people 80+

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; in 'mass graves' or rather crematoriums

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; they're customers that won't be coming back for many years to come anyway

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; and maybe are not permitted to travel anyway (joint issues, wheel chairs)

12:27 mjg59_; NZ dealt with covid fine until this year and then utterly fucked it up

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; my mom is comign to that point (sore knees after long-distance travel)

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; to the point of limiting the travel

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; that najes walking very hard afterwards, got to respect that...

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; after many got shots

12:27 schestowitz-TR2; esp. the very vulnerable

12:29 schestowitz__[TR]; https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media

↺ https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media

12:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News & media | Ministry of Health NZ

12:29 schestowitz__[TR]; https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items

↺ https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/news-items

12:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.health.govt.nz | News items | Ministry of Health NZ

12:32 schestowitz__[TR]; https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/

↺ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/

12:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.worldometers.info | New Zealand COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

12:32 schestowitz__[TR]; I see now

12:32 schestowitz__[TR]; you're right

12:32 schestowitz__[TR]; I didn't notice

12:35 mjg59_; Yeah turns out I usually am riht

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; so called "media" stopped reportsing on covid

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; so it's hard to know what happens where

12:39 schestowitz-TR2; unless one chases the figures

12:40 schestowitz-TR2; and even then they're usualyl incomplete or biased, or both


1 PM, August 23

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Linux Foundation and its ilk (i.e. proprietary companies) are actively spreading FUD against "Open Source", which they're merely trying to control. This is little but a FUDfest, hardly a summary of news. https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/coding-vulnerabilities-linux-growth-foss-friction-cap-summer-highlights-176640.html

↺ https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/coding-vulnerabilities-linux-growth-foss-friction-cap-summer-highlights-176640.html

13:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.linuxinsider.com | Coding Vulnerabilities, Linux Growth, FOSS Friction Cap Summer Highlights

13:02 schestowitz-TR2; hallmark of the shittiness of "the news"

13:03 schestowitz-TR2; Linux foundation = we let you borrow the name "Linux" to use it to attack things

13:03 Techrights-sec; ack

13:04 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Clued up people have all along said that phone number requirement in Signal was a disaster waiting to happen, a blunder in the making https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/signal-phone-numbers-exposed-in-twilio-hack.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/08/signal-phone-numbers-exposed-in-twilio-hack.html

13:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Signal Phone Numbers Exposed in Twilio Hack - Schneier on Security

13:10 Techrights-sec; phone numbers as IDs have so many things wrong that it is shocking that

13:10 Techrights-sec; they are being considered for such use

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; eff-approved, unlike pgp

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; they also shill microsoft DDG

13:10 schestowitz-TR2; go figure...

13:11 Techrights-sec; :(

13:50 schestowitz-TR2; Techrights article on Microsoft DuckDuckGo now in Russian gemini://phreedom.club/~tolstoevsky/articles/2022-08-23-ddg.gmi

↺ gemini://phreedom.club/~tolstoevsky/articles/2022-08-23-ddg.gmi

13:59 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Reddit = censorship, even DMCA aside https://torrentfreak.com/reddits-dmca-removals-surged-15000-in-five-years-220821/ | Source: Torrent Freak

↺ https://torrentfreak.com/reddits-dmca-removals-surged-15000-in-five-years-220821/

13:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Reddit's DMCA Removals Surged 15,000% in Five Years * TorrentFreak


2 PM, August 23

14:01 Techrights-sec; ack

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliers

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; the epo too used to be like this around 2015

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; then they put a stop to it

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; corked the media

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB)

14:04 Techrights-sec; https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat

14:04 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat )

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zat

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; these sites need to be eradicated compltely

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmful

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; RMS has done that for decades

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; sayign that copying something bad is itself bad

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; it's very good when your work makes it to other places (like raspi revelations to dozens of sites), which then act as impact multipliers

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; the epo too used to be like this around 2015

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; then they put a stop to it

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; corked the media

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; i hope WBers on twitter bias will do as much damage as francis or whatever her name was (FB)

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; these sites need to be eradicated compltely

14:04 schestowitz-TR2; but it is important to put side the brands and tell people why the concept or the construct itself is harmful

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; RMS has done that for decades

14:05 schestowitz-TR2; sayign that copying something bad is itself bad

14:05 Techrights-sec; https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack

14:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack )

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/23/tech/twitter-whistleblower-peiter-zatack

14:23 Techrights-sec;

14:23 Techrights-sec; ack

14:23 Techrights-sec; they are a threat to democratic society and sovereignty of nations

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3 PM, August 23

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; i need some hlp, gulag is not helping

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; about 5 years ago cia or a court described assange as "sophisticated target"

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; or something to that effect

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot find it

15:07 schestowitz-TR2; too much "media" noise

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; iirc, it was a leaked document

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; I get some "tweets" from last year

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; I'm giving up

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; needle in a haystack by now

15:10 Techrights-sec; probably not possible to find it any more, there is so much chaff out ther

15:10 Techrights-sec; and the indexes don't cover anything more than a few months old any more

15:10 Techrights-sec; e.g. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/julian-assange-wikileaks-campbell/index.html

↺ https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/16/opinions/julian-assange-wikileaks-campbell/index.html

15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-edition.cnn.com | Julian Assange falsely billed himself as a truth defender (Opinion) - CNN

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; I decided to paraphrase from memory without URL or doc

15:25 Techrights-sec; https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e

↺ https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e

15:25 Techrights-sec; https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/opinion-and-analysis/2019-04-21-assange-a-modern-christ-crucified-to-assuage-a-hostile-empire/

↺ https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/opinion-and-analysis/2019-04-21-assange-a-modern-christ-crucified-to-assuage-a-hostile-empire/

15:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e )

↺ https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/why-julian-assange-is-americas-ultimate-prize/news-story/d99d124da5530e8bdaca5bd5c31e2e2e

15:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeslive.co.za | Assange a modern Christ, crucified to assuage a hostile empire

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; I remember that article

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; these analogies might even help his detractors

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; what I looked for is likely a "teet"

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; sadly, Assange personally and Wikileaks as an org wastes too much time there

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; posting docs

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; and they're hard to find

15:27 schestowitz-TR2; they did not catalogue those in their web site

15:28 Techrights-sec; stuff "posted" in twitter is lost

15:28 Techrights-sec; context is already missing the minute it gets published and

15:28 Techrights-sec; there are no meaningful search capabilities

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; they would highlight bits in legal docs

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; or leaks

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; and then post only as tweet

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; pardon my typos

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; "teet" LOL

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; maybe a good joke, tii

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; *oo sucking jake's teat

15:30 schestowitz-TR2; by outsourcing everything to his sms experiment from the early 2000s

15:30 Techrights-sec; that was only them pretending to publish, twitter is too ephemeral for anything

15:30 Techrights-sec; at all

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; I kept telling them to use the site more

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; and rss feeds etc.

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; as twitter keps censoring them and locking their account

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; twitter was already controlling the audience

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; as the shim between the publisher and ther readers

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; can hide anytthing

15:31 schestowitz-TR2; iwth "HEY HI" as excuse

15:41 schestowitz-TR2; draft

15:41 schestowitz-TR2; crude, will add more, video has a long way to go still

15:41 schestowitz-TR2; adding a devuan plug-ish

15:41 Techrights-sec; checking

15:41 Techrights-sec; perhaps tie it to the fight about software patents?

15:41 schestowitz-TR2; ok, will expand on swpats too

15:46 Techrights-sec; thanks

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; random thought

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; wikileaks 2006-2009: many good publications, little impact

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; until baer bank, I think (elmer)

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; and then lawsuit/slapp

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; by 2010 they already knew they had to work and pre-plan with media partners (for greater impact)

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; after all that swedish stuff and more so the 2016 presidential race wikileaks made some enemies with so-called "liberal" media

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; so later publications were laregely ignored

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; like our Intel leaks and WPO material after the media got coopted

15:50 schestowitz-TR2; *EPO


4 PM, August 23

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16:49 Techrights-sec; ack

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5 PM, August 23

17:40 schestowitz-TR2; ping

17:40 schestowitz-TR2; y7ou will like thr draft

17:40 schestowitz-TR2; it's short

17:40 schestowitz-TR2; but revealing

17:40 Techrights-sec; pong

17:40 Techrights-sec; checking

17:40 Techrights-sec; a brief summary or at least a hint about the story could be in the text

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17:44 Techrights-sec; Should the text metion "Bakkt" ?

17:44 schestowitz-TR2; yes, maybe transcript too?

17:48 Techrights-sec; it's about 30 seconds long. what is the origin of the video? there should

17:48 Techrights-sec; be a link to or explanation of the source

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; added bakkt and more links

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; orally already had the talk'\s link

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; don't want to send them too much traffic

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; maybe spamnil can arrange some

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; no video in 5 days

17:52 schestowitz-TR2; i tink i got hims susp[ended

17:53 Techrights-sec; thanks

17:53 Techrights-sec; then just a mention of the source not an active link ?

17:53 Techrights-sec; or the name, date, and location of the event?

17:53 Techrights-sec; who is speaking in the video?

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; the video desc contains all that info

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; for those who know what LF is, the speakers name/voice will be known

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; a transcript MIGHT help

17:54 schestowitz-TR2; but we have the horse's mouth and it is short

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6 PM, August 23

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; it's Jim Zemlin

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; he mentions the wife again later

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; some context would help

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; he gave this talk around the time her scam was going public (IPO)

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; at very high valued

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; people's "wallets" at Bakkt lost like 90% of their value

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; depending when they joined the "scheme"

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; and he's so proud of it

18:10 schestowitz-TR2; I won't even comment on her appearance (maybe a matter of taste)

18:23 Techrights-sec; ack

18:23 Techrights-sec; what was baktt claiming to be?

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; like a "wallet" for 'crypto'

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; to make it "easy" and "accessible", I think

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; anyway, all those cryptocranks are BS

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; inc. those who wear suits and went to Harvard

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; there must be thousands of those "crypto ios hard, let us manage it for you" exhcnages (*scams)

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; wonder hoiw many perished and folded with the "assets" and "money" so far this year

18:26 schestowitz-TR2; bakkt can be next

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