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beginning of new day, January 23

00:40 schestowitz-TR2; I have just had to modify the root cron job that restarts the daemon every midnig

00:40 schestowitz-TR2; ht to rotate the logging, so now it works ok


1 AM, January 23

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; I have just had to modify the root cron job that restarts the daemon every midnig

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; ht to rotate the logging, so now it works ok

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; just noticed that logrotate in debian 11 seems to be putting all past dates

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; in syslog.1

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; as opposed to daily files, which impacts stat gathering

01:06 schestowitz-TR2; i had to change file ownership to get that cron job going again


2 AM, January 23

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02:57 schestowitz; -------- Forwarded Message --------

02:57 schestowitz; Subject: Re: Comment on Techrights - If you do these 5 things video link

02:57 schestowitz; Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:27:09 -0700

02:57 schestowitz; xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

02:57 schestowitz; To: Roy Schestowitz

02:57 schestowitz; Roy, I hope that all is well with you and your family at this time.

02:57 schestowitz; Roy, you being a truther, I thought you may appreciate this

02:57 schestowitz; interesting little bit of info I discovered recently. Someone

02:57 schestowitz; administratively is going through PJ's old site Groklaw and removing

02:57 schestowitz; key incriminating documents, one of them the text to M$ versus Iowa

02:57 schestowitz; (Comes - the district attorney) court case document PX3096 related to

02:57 schestowitz; M$ Evangelism. The text permitted one to effectively search and

02:57 schestowitz; conveniently read. I have attached two screen captures I did a week

02:57 schestowitz; ago. Fortunately, I still have the PDF print I did 2 years ago, which

02:57 schestowitz; was then still available.

02:57 schestowitz; I surmise this was done to protect the cabal that morphed from software to jabs.

02:57 schestowitz; Sincerely, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

02:58 schestowitz; El dom, 28 nov 2021 a la(s) 00:52, Roy Schestowitz (r@schestowitz.com) escribi:

02:58 schestowitz; >

02:58 schestowitz; > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

02:58 schestowitz; I wonder if the document/post vanished due to botched static archive of GeekLog or something more targeted than this. Either way, parts of history vanish from the record.


5 AM, January 23

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7 AM, January 23

07:04 wallacer; It should be still on the Internet Archive, right?

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07:58 schestowitz; wallacer: techrights has a copy of the PDF

07:58 schestowitz; but now Groklaw's post

07:58 wallacer; hmm but I assume not everything ever is going to be with techrights


8 AM, January 23

08:02 schestowitz; maybe we'll make a copy if that's gone

08:02 schestowitz; for about 2-3 months a year ago groklaw was down completely

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9 AM, January 23

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09:55 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_deposit

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_deposit

09:55 Techrights-sec; https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0004282/

↺ https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN0004282/

09:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Legal deposit - Wikipedia

09:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.loc.gov | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Library of Congress

09:56 schestowitz-TR2; somone mentioned in IRC this morning "Evangelism is War"

09:56 schestowitz-TR2; Should we mirror it?


10 AM, January 23

10:02 Techrights-sec; IIRC 3096 is alredy cached at TR

10:02 Techrights-sec; ^PXE-3096 from Comes v Microsoft

10:02 Techrights-sec; Groklaw is already in the Internet Archive for now. And what is currently

10:02 Techrights-sec; left online is rather incomplete now.

10:02 schestowitz-TR2; yes, we have the PDF already, but the post is good though the comments are likely gone for good

10:06 Techrights-sec; It might be useful to mirror a few of the key posts, perhaps in the context

10:06 Techrights-sec; of revisiting the topics in light of how they are still ongoing and related

10:06 Techrights-sec; to current malfeasance among microsofters and their politicians.

10:06 Techrights-sec; Perhaps the LT post should be among them.

10:06 Techrights-sec; But the number brought over should be fairly small and focused I think.

10:06 Techrights-sec; 3096 has been cited a lot. There were a couple of others too.

10:06 Techrights-sec; Can that be searched somehow in the TR CMS?

10:06 schestowitz-TR2; maybe, but not by file name

10:06 schestowitz-TR2; that's one think we might wish to add: a list of "assets", like non-HTML objects

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10:17 Techrights-sec; Could a filesystem search find the PDFs easily?

10:17 Techrights-sec; I guess not, since most of the Plaintiff's Exhibits are cached in ./comes-vs-microsoft

10:17 Techrights-sec; EDGI-related documents ought to be highlighed too.

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11 AM, January 23

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noon, January 23

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13:31 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150

13:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150 )

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150

13:32 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?1

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?1

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?1 )

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?1

13:32 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?2

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?2

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?2 )

↺ https://nitter.eu/phantom09331632/status/14851764334757150?2

13:32 schestowitz; "

13:32 schestowitz; The Internet is cut off from almost the whole of Yemen, let us be their voice.

13:32 schestowitz; I stand in solidarity with the innocent Yemeni people.

13:32 schestowitz; #YemenUnderAttack

13:32 schestowitz; #YemenBlackout

13:32 schestowitz; #Yemen

13:32 schestowitz; #we_are_yemen

13:32 schestowitz; "

13:32 schestowitz; Intruder Boosted (@IntruderVS1400): "I got a some of these in the mail on Friday because I wanted to get my hands on a #riscv processor to learn some of its assembly language. I wonder if one will get built into something completely wild? With shipping and taxes, total was $20 for 5. Let's see what they can do!" | nitter https://nitter.eu/IntruderVS1400/status/1485152041219600387 #nitter | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/

↺ https://nitter.eu/IntruderVS1400/status/1485152041219600387

↺ http://schestowitz.com/2022/01/

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Intruder Boosted (@IntruderVS1400): "I got a some of these in the mail on Friday because I wanted to get my hands on a #riscv processor to learn some of its assembly language. I wonder if one will get built into something completely wild? With shipping and taxes, total was $20 for 5. Let's see what they can do!" | nitter

13:32 schestowitz; latest

13:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts

13:33 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/Beck_President/status/1485059351006040069

↺ https://twitter.com/Beck_President/status/1485059351006040069

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Beck_President: @schestowitz Vote President Patrick Beck USA!!!

13:33 schestowitz; https://nitter.eu/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/14850294728563261

↺ https://nitter.eu/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/14850294728563261

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://nitter.eu/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/14850294728563261 )

↺ https://nitter.eu/GyroWaveGen_TM/status/14850294728563261

13:33 schestowitz; "| Our entire patent system is trash now! So, there're much bigger things to worry about - including the 'extinction of inventors' in this country! Those that can still get 'garbage patents' are NOT real inventors! They are just hacks! That includes many corporate inventors."

13:33 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/LandmarkNFTs/status/1485021472313724928

↺ https://twitter.com/LandmarkNFTs/status/1485021472313724928

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LandmarkNFTs: @schestowitz Any chance of a retweet pal. Trying to sell my 1st NFT! #NFT https://t.co/jAQa0C4hKA via @opensea https://t.co/lhYOvnnKXY

↺ https://t.co/jAQa0C4hKA

↺ https://t.co/lhYOvnnKXY

13:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/71564565232352191932559924557817530697734232173063619342153561297365575401473/ )

↺ https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/71564565232352191932559924557817530697734232173063619342153561297365575401473/

13:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LandmarkNFTs: @schestowitz Any chance of a retweet pal. Trying to sell my 1st NFT! #NFT https://t.co/jAQa0C4hKA via @opensea https://t.co/lhYOvnnKXY

↺ https://t.co/jAQa0C4hKA

↺ https://t.co/lhYOvnnKXY

13:34 schestowitz; https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1484879225580572675

↺ https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/1484879225580572675

13:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@glynmoody: the @RenewEurope lot don't emerge with much honour here, blocking important proposals... https://t.co/TB8kOIAdS9

↺ https://t.co/TB8kOIAdS9

13:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: "The #DigitalServicesAct will permit cross-border takedown orders for content that was published legally in another https://t.co/RX1kK7i7sc

↺ https://t.co/RX1kK7i7sc


2 PM, January 23

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8 PM, January 23

20:45 schestowitz; http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/01/cafc-reigns-in-obvious-try-attack.html?showComment=1642591851386#c2764257457028248599

↺ http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/01/cafc-reigns-in-obvious-try-attack.html?showComment=1642591851386#c2764257457028248599

20:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ipkitten.blogspot.com | CAFC reins in obvious-try-attack against dosage patent (Teva v Corcept) - The IPKat

20:45 schestowitz; "

20:45 schestowitz; Thank you for sharing this case and for your analysis. I'm not sure I follow the conclusions though, in particular regarding the difference in the EPO's approach on the obvious-try-attack.

20:45 schestowitz; I agree that "[e]ven an implicit prompting or implicitly recognisable incentive is sufficient to show that the skilled person would have combined the elements from the prior art " (G-IV-5.3).

20:45 schestowitz; However, similarly to CAFC, several BoAs deemed that a reasonable expectation of success is needed for finding the prompted combination obvious (see CL I.D.7.1: "... obviousness is not only at hand when the results are clearly predictable but also when there is a reasonable expectation of success" and "... even if it was obvious for the skilled person to try an experiment, it was not necessarily true that this person would have any reasonable

20:45 schestowitz; expectation of success when embarking on it.").

20:45 schestowitz; In the present case, if I understand correctly, there was no reasonable expectation of success in view of the safety concerns surrounding the higher mifepristone doses in combination with strong CYP3A inhibitor; on the contrary, in view of such safety concerns, the expectation was that the combination would not be safe.

20:45 schestowitz; Accordingly, I think that the CAFC decision that without reasonable expectation of success, Teva did not prove obviousness fits with the current practice of the EPO of the obvious-to-try-attack.

20:45 schestowitz; Am I missing something? Thoughts on the above?

20:45 schestowitz; "


9 PM, January 23

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21:32 schestowitz; https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt

↺ https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt

21:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 2022 Data | 2023 Forecast | 1942-2021 Historical


11 PM, January 23

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