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02:58 schestowitz-TR; touching gmnisrv logs on TM
02:58 schestowitz-TR; it seems like some people regularly get news off of it
02:58 schestowitz-TR; atm, there is no archiving-related index
02:58 schestowitz-TR; lik weekly/daily archive
02:58 schestowitz-TR; but that can always be easily derived from the db
02:58 schestowitz-TR; same for www
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08:07 techrightssec2; ack
08:08 schestowitz-TR; now up to 12 users in mumble
08:08 schestowitz-TR; sometimes photos are uploaded when we are afk, only murmur running
08:08 schestowitz-TR; and so it's not possible to see what was there
08:08 schestowitz-TR; but the simple solution, I guess, it to stay online
08:08 techrightssec2; ack
08:08 techrightssec2; nice
08:08 techrightssec2; how many can it handle concurrently as far as the sound goes?
08:11 techrightssec2; ok
08:11 schestowitz-TR; the 12 are not concurrent
08:11 schestowitz-TR; I am counting how many people have a mumble client (usually mumla)
08:11 techrightssec2; ok
08:11 schestowitz-TR; so have the capacity to connect
08:15 schestowitz-TR; i was thinking of privacy aspects
08:15 schestowitz-TR; it goes like this
08:15 schestowitz-TR; for local calls, akin to intercom
08:15 schestowitz-TR; exploit might be
08:15 schestowitz-TR; 1) weak e2e encryption
08:15 schestowitz-TR; 2) cracked device, e.g. laptop
08:15 schestowitz-TR; 3) router takeover by ISP, plus (1)
08:15 schestowitz-TR; for inward/outward calls it's simpler, as many use android
08:15 schestowitz-TR; then
08:15 schestowitz-TR; a) android crack (turn micro listening model)
08:15 schestowitz-TR; b) see (1) above
08:15 schestowitz-TR; and several combinations of 1+2+3, a suibset of this scenario
08:15 schestowitz-TR; it might be interesting to see a videos made on it
08:15 schestowitz-TR; if none exist, I might make one some day
08:15 schestowitz-TR; conversations that are truly private should become the norm
08:15 schestowitz-TR; never mind the terror scare and "think of the chlldren" red herring
08:22 techrightssec2; ack
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09:31 techrightssec2; 3) not just the ISP, but third parties, since the ISP is most unlikely to
09:31 techrightssec2; ever update the firmware let alone do it ofen enough to keep it up to date
09:51 schestowitz-TR; based on the links, disney is to entertainment what microsofters are to tech
09:51 schestowitz-TR; they remove founders from their projects
09:51 schestowitz-TR; and trample all over
09:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe george lucas will be in a mental asylum some time soon
09:51 schestowitz-TR; or sent to "therapists"
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15:12 schestowitz-TR; so some people who read the series are reporting that in their workplace/s they too
15:12 schestowitz-TR; experience(d) similar things
15:12 schestowitz-TR; I guess after a decade or more you learn to recognise and explain some certain pattern
15:12 schestowitz-TR; with focus on foss and "it"
15:12 schestowitz-TR; e.g. hr as foes of the staff
15:12 schestowitz-TR; or, if outsourced, the entire company (client)
15:13 techrightssec2; I would guess that the behaviors and tactics described are commonplace
15:13 techrightssec2; HR is there to protect the company from the workers, too bad
15:14 schestowitz-TR; hr is also there to protect hr
15:14 schestowitz-TR; which, if outsourced, means that hr can issue self-harming advice
15:33 schestowitz-TR; Yuppie EV fantasies; the problems is overpopulation and excess of automobiles. EVs don't generate their OWN power. Other issues, noted by GNU/Linux dev today https://bkhome.org/news/202212/electric-vehicle-reality-check.html
15:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bkhome.org | Electric vehicle reality check
15:40 techrightssec2; Electrci cars still contribute to traffic congestion and arent' a replacement
15:40 techrightssec2; for excellent or even adequate mass transit.
15:42 schestowitz-TR; as soon as the office states tycoon could compel politicians to ignore covid-19 and other issues
15:42 schestowitz-TR; they forced millions to commute to the office again, even for jobs that do not strictly require such
15:42 schestowitz-TR; travel
15:42 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can charge EVs off the body heat of those tycoon
15:42 schestowitz-TR; *tycoons
15:42 schestowitz-TR; *office estate tycoons
15:42 schestowitz-TR; in the uk a lot is foreign-owned as "investment"
15:42 schestowitz-TR; so they don't even care about the wellbeing and health of the localsd
16:01 techrightssec2; https://www.cnbc.com/2016/01/15/saudi-arabia-buying-up-farmland-in-us-southwest.html
16:01 techrightssec2; https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/11/03/when-saudi-arabia-comes-to-town-and-buys-all-your-water/
16:01 techrightssec2; https://theintercept.com/2022/11/28/maricopa-supervisors-saudi-lobbyist-thomas-galvin/
16:01 techrightssec2; (apologies for "Intecept" link)
16:01 techrightssec2; apropos foreign "investors"
16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Saudi Arabia buying up farmland in US Southwest
16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-responsiblestatecraft.org | When Saudi Arabia comes to town and buys all your water - Responsible Statecraft
16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-theintercept.com | Lobbyist for Saudi Alfalfa Firm Elected as Maricopa Supervisor
16:01 techrightssec2; None of the three have been covered yet, though the topic itself has been
16:01 techrightssec2; covered before on occasion.
16:02 schestowitz-TR; I still remember these reports
16:02 schestowitz-TR; some might be in TR already"
16:02 schestowitz-TR; "Intercept" is Persian propaganda
16:02 schestowitz-TR; usually picking on "classic" 'enemies' inc. Israel and KSA
16:02 schestowitz-TR; there are reasons why greenwald left in protest
16:02 schestowitz-TR; you are free to cover what you want under the Omidyar PAC stands in your way
16:04 techrightssec2; No, I tend to skip "Intercept" because it is not a good, consistent source
16:04 techrightssec2; plus they went out of their way to burn multiple sources.
16:04 techrightssec2;
16:09 schestowitz-TR; that too
16:09 schestowitz-TR; but the corruption runs deeper
16:09 schestowitz-TR; /s/under/until/
16:09 schestowitz-TR; remember what they did with
16:09 schestowitz-TR; 1) snowden files
16:09 schestowitz-TR; 2) the people with access to (1)
16:09 schestowitz-TR; 3) the people did openly complain about what Omidyar did both to (2) and to (1)
16:09 schestowitz-TR; Omidyar PAC did some malicious attack pieces on Wikileaks
16:09 schestowitz-TR; a lot of Omidyar-funded "journalists" (except maybe Greenwald at the time)
16:09 schestowitz-TR; participated in this agenda
16:09 schestowitz-TR; it destroyed fredom of the press foundation
16:09 schestowitz-TR; co-founder by Barlow and his mate Assnage, IIRC
16:09 schestowitz-TR; EFF used to support Wikileaks
16:09 schestowitz-TR; nowadays EFF works for brain-damaged maniacs with a twitter account
16:10 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I joke to myself that musk is killing twitter to just take that hive off the backs of the
16:10 schestowitz-TR; villains du jour
16:10 schestowitz-TR; (joke, I think it's just a childish 51-year-old playing with money of his dad (slavery), US
16:10 schestowitz-TR; taxpayers, and Saudi head-chopping terrorists who market themselves as progressives)
16:10 schestowitz-TR; techwashing, sportwashing etc.
16:10 schestowitz-TR; (lukashenko does the same... a pseudo-peasant sold as "batka")
16:10 techrightssec2;
16:10 techrightssec2; Yes, the corruption is thorough there.
16:10 techrightssec2; They also went out of their way to acquire and then bury the Snowden files
16:10 techrightssec2; Those with access seem to have shut down and disappeared.
16:10 techrightssec2; Or twitter-damaged maniacs with an EFF account, more like it
16:11 schestowitz-TR; the eff now does some promotion of mastodon
16:11 schestowitz-TR; fsf? lol, fsf says nothing
16:11 schestowitz-TR; but has a new job opening
16:11 schestowitz-TR; john s. has left
16:11 schestowitz-TR; but eff just wants its hive to dominate and police the "fediverse"
16:11 schestowitz-TR; no "terror" stuff like e2ee
16:11 schestowitz-TR; just some crappy "privacy-aware" apple
16:52 techrightssec2; ack
17:09 schestowitz-TR; good news on upc front
17:09 schestowitz-TR; just in time for xmas
17:09 schestowitz-TR; I am asking for more details first
17:09 schestowitz-TR; going to bed soon
17:12 techrightssec2; ack
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17:51 schestowitz-TR; now we're also all set for 'battle', time-wise
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