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beginning of new day, November 22

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05:40 schestowitz-TR; 2022.47 Migratory - Rakudo Weekly News https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/11/21/2022-47-migratory/ "FreeNode fiasco comes to mind, and now Twitter appears to be going the same direction. So it was a good opportunity to start an official channel for the Raku Programming Language on Mastodon"

↺ https://rakudoweekly.blog/2022/11/21/2022-47-migratory/

05:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rakudoweekly.blog | 2022.47 Migratory Rakudo Weekly News

05:40 schestowitz-TR; Sourav Rudra knows it's NOT FOSS and he even admits it ("It isn't open-source but works quite well."), so what does the site ItsFOSS st

05:40 schestowitz-TR; and for? https://news.itsfoss.com/vmware-workstation-17-release/

↺ https://news.itsfoss.com/vmware-workstation-17-release/

05:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.itsfoss.com | VMware Workstation 17 Series Releases; Adds New Linux Guest OS

05:50 schestowitz-TR; :-)


6 AM, November 22

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7 AM, November 22

07:12 schestowitz-TR; 'foss'todon = bank pages in falkon with JS on ;-)

07:12 schestowitz-TR; *blank

07:42 Techrightssec; Yes, the support of FOSS and standards is not even lip service there.

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08:59 Techrightssec; Apparently COP27 did not even raise the question of overpopulation even once.


9 AM, November 22

09:00 schestowitz-TR; 1. create a panel to discuss prolem x

09:00 schestowitz-TR; 2. invite those causing x

09:00 schestowitz-TR; 3. discuss no actual solution

09:00 schestowitz-TR; 4. brag about the discussion

09:00 schestowitz-TR; ...

09:00 schestowitz-TR; x. profit

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09:17 Techrightssec; Sounds also like Nokia and the fraudulent attempt at the Unified Patent Court.

09:17 Techrightssec; They're unwilling to admit how badly they got screwed by their own board an

09:17 Techrightssec; d Microsoft's Elop.

09:17 Techrightssec; The only politicians that seem aware of the situation in any country also seem

09:17 Techrightssec; to be corrupt or seem under conflict of interests. Definitely a major threat

09:17 Techrightssec; to not just technological advancement but even general purpose computing.

09:17 Techrightssec; They don't make general purpose computers so as an American company they are

09:17 Techrightssec; not affected. Furthermore, the more trouble they cause in Europe the more

09:17 Techrightssec; advantage they have in the international market. So there are a lot of

09:17 Techrightssec; perverse incentives involved.

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09:46 Techrightssec; ack


10 AM, November 22

10:30 schestowitz-TR; weird

10:30 schestowitz-TR; I swear I opened the SN link and it gave me 404

10:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe twice even

10:30 schestowitz-TR; after it had also taken a long time for the bot to get a response from it

10:30 schestowitz-TR; and now it works... twice in a row

10:30 schestowitz-TR; suggests (i think) some trouble at the back end, maybe OH cluster

10:30 schestowitz-TR; *HA

10:30 schestowitz-TR; high-avail

10:36 schestowitz-TR; wow, the SN story is quite sad

10:36 schestowitz-TR; and they cannot get ircd back up and running

10:36 schestowitz-TR; btw, i heard yesterday from someone who knows someone in MSFT that the expense cuts are very noticeable

10:36 schestowitz-TR; this means Microsoft will think twice or thrice about stuff like extra astrotturfing

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10:52 Techrightssec; ack

10:52 Techrightssec;

10:52 Techrightssec; Yes, there will be an unavoidable long tail, but the world will benefit from

10:52 Techrightssec; a sudden drop in M$ astroturfers once their budget is cut enough.

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11 AM, November 22

11:01 schestowitz-TR; thanks for buynothing urls

11:01 schestowitz-TR; i did not forget to work on that

11:01 schestowitz-TR; de and nl links are good too

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11:10 schestowitz-TR; James Zemlin: Sheela Microsoft controls me. Microsoft-funded Sheela does not listen to anything I have to say: (new talk) http://techrights.org/2022/11/16/jim-ftx-zemlin/

http://techrights.org/2022/11/16/jim-ftx-zemlin/

11:10 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org | Jim FTX Zemlin: My Wife Who is a Successful Technology Executive and Harvard MBA [and Fraudster Facing Class Action Lawsuit for Securities Fraud] Really Had an Obvious Look of Disappointment When I Told Her I Worked at a Non-Profit [sic] | Techrights

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim FTX Zemlin: My Wife Who is a Successful Technology Executive and Harvard MBA [and Fraudster Facing Class Action Lawsuit for Securities Fraud] Really Had an Obvious Look of Disappointment When I Told Her I Worked at a Non-Profit [sic] | Techrights

11:10 schestowitz-TR; James Zemlin and the husband, Sheela Microsoft, promote Bill Gates as "security". Just see comment by zoobab https://lwn.net/Articles/914840/ for background: http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/discriminating-against-free-software/ http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/

↺ https://lwn.net/Articles/914840/

http://techrights.org/2022/09/28/discriminating-against-free-software/

http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Open-source software vs. the proposed Cyber Resilience Act (NLnet Labs) [LWN.net]

11:10 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org | Attempts to Legislate Against Free Software in Order to Elbow Such Software Aside | Techrights

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Attempts to Legislate Against Free Software in Order to Elbow Such Software Aside | Techrights

11:10 schestowitz-TR; techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights

11:10 Techrightssec; thanks!

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11:12 schestowitz-TR; the attack surface we have here is extensible, and seems to be an HR issue as much as a technical issue

11:12 schestowitz-TR; having said that, judging by comments online people grew invcreasingly sceptical of LF

11:12 schestowitz-TR; it's wiely viewed as "Big Business" lobby

11:12 schestowitz-TR; which is correct

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11:13 Techrightssec; ack

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11:16 Techrightssec; Too many are still fooled by the name and through wishful thinking about

11:16 Techrightssec; what they would have liked the LF to be about. The hard reality is that

11:16 Techrightssec; it represents corporate interests inside kernel development and are actually

11:16 Techrightssec; antagonistic to the idea of promoting and advancing Linux in the world in

11:16 Techrightssec; general.

11:16 Techrightssec; tldr; it's a corporate lobbying group

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 1. go to linux.com

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 2. scan with the eyes

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 3. count articles about linux DESKTOP

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 4. counting articles about LINUX

11:17 schestowitz-TR; 5. count articles about COMMUNITY

11:17 schestowitz-TR; do the same in TFIR (don't; te videos are dying, too)

11:17 schestowitz-TR; the companies that run LF do NTO want Linux to succeed

11:17 schestowitz-TR; they want Linux to be CONTROLLED

11:17 schestowitz-TR; and NOT by USERS or COMMUNITIES

11:18 Techrightssec; I refuse to look at anything I know in advance is from spamnil.

11:18 Techrightssec; Right. That much was obvious when the LF eliminated community representation.

11:18 Techrightssec; That incident still does not get the attention it deserves, even though

11:18 Techrightssec; it is now so long ago in the past.

11:20 schestowitz-TR; 2016: community naughty, microsoft good

11:20 schestowitz-TR; guess who made the project LF is named after

11:20 schestowitz-TR; IN SPITE of Microsoft

11:20 schestowitz-TR; remember their finances looked awful for 2020

11:20 schestowitz-TR; I think they are also rather quiet this past month, and for a REASON

11:20 schestowitz-TR; it's not easy to get info on or from them

11:20 schestowitz-TR; if you can dig in a little, that will help

11:20 schestowitz-TR; open-source int

11:23 schestowitz-TR; --

11:23 schestowitz-TR; wow, linux.com seems like autopilot

11:23 schestowitz-TR; like nobody actually runs the site

11:23 schestowitz-TR; latest 3 "Stories" are merely links to the same site (redhat.com)

11:23 schestowitz-TR; prior to it, mere copy-pasre of linuxfoiundation.org [sic] material

11:23 schestowitz-TR; so you might as well stick a fork in that site

11:23 schestowitz-TR; it's done

11:23 schestowitz-TR; i'm doing an investigate post atm about the demise of blogs too, or sites about patents

11:23 schestowitz-TR; gathering evidence atm

11:24 Techrightssec; Check the RSS feed list. There are hundreds which have gone defunct during

11:24 Techrightssec; the last two years or less.

11:24 schestowitz-TR; investigating a bit while posting links

11:28 schestowitz-TR; brainstorming: before tantek went to Googlezilla he had technorati

11:28 schestowitz-TR; that used to hav an extensive list of blogs

11:28 schestowitz-TR; circa 2005 it still flourished

11:28 schestowitz-TR; getting a list of blogs and checking when they died might be... interesting

11:28 schestowitz-TR; owing to the very large dataset (what media might now dub "BIG DATA")

11:28 schestowitz-TR; I think I'm done with ONS for now

11:28 schestowitz-TR; do you have links to the new fatalities (by status) study?

11:28 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure the response woulkd be predominantly ad hom and similar

11:28 schestowitz-TR; "i found a typo"

11:28 schestowitz-TR; "they don't do it right" (variety of slants)

11:28 schestowitz-TR; "they are shills"

11:34 schestowitz-TR; ffii had no press release for nearly 9 months, 3 only in the past year, and i suspect its rss feed, which previously workd,

11:34 schestowitz-TR; stopped working

11:34 schestowitz-TR; then, a few weeks ago or a week back it issues one press release

11:34 schestowitz-TR; but that's far too little

11:34 schestowitz-TR; zoobab spent too much time in twitter

11:34 schestowitz-TR; and now that it's being freenoded it seems even more like wasted effort tbh

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11:56 Techrightssec; Twitter was and is a waste of time

11:56 Techrightssec; just like other manifestations of social control media

11:56 Techrightssec; That's just at the individual level. The costs and damage that social control

11:56 Techrightssec; media have done and will continue to do to society have yet to be assessed but

11:56 Techrightssec; even at this point it is very, very clear that the costs are already

11:56 Techrightssec; catastrophically high.

11:56 Techrightssec; See CBS' 60 Minutes program about "opium tiktok"


noon, November 22

12:00 schestowitz-TR; china did not forget opiun war I and opium war II

12:00 schestowitz-TR; so it blocked shit like FB right from the get-go

12:00 schestowitz-TR; and I never condemned them for doing so (nor did I conduse)

12:00 schestowitz-TR; *condone

12:00 schestowitz-TR; you might say tiktok is "cheap chinese imitation"

12:00 schestowitz-TR; albeit in very very large doses

12:00 schestowitz-TR; like with drugs they export to other countries

12:00 schestowitz-TR; synthetic (like "spice")

12:00 schestowitz-TR; turns humsn into zombies

12:03 schestowitz-TR; speaking of addictions, to oil, to sport, money etc

12:03 schestowitz-TR; I still seriously consider boycotting EPL too

12:03 schestowitz-TR; top 3 teams (by ranking) are oil money

12:04 schestowitz-TR; and it is not improving over time, it gets a lot worse fast

12:04 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to participate in promoting their sportwashing PR

12:06 Techrightssec; ack

12:09 schestowitz-TR; if you write a blog post to point this out (I''m sure many others did already)

12:09 schestowitz-TR; you risk running afoul of the "islamophobia" policing

12:09 schestowitz-TR; as if opposing

12:09 schestowitz-TR; a) human rights abuse

12:09 schestowitz-TR; b) sport 'doping' (money)

12:09 schestowitz-TR; c) sportwashing

12:09 schestowitz-TR; d) envioronmental pollution and global warning

12:09 schestowitz-TR; is something to do with religion

12:09 schestowitz-TR; a side effect is that it undermines a unifying cultural ritual ("footie")

12:09 schestowitz-TR; some people here in the UK tried to silently protest in the stadium MbS buying a football club

12:09 schestowitz-TR; the police did not mind MbS

12:09 schestowitz-TR; but instead targeted his critics

12:09 Techrightssec; ack

12:09 Techrightssec; It's the go-to excuse for most coverups these days.

12:13 schestowitz-TR; but again, no point blogging about it

12:13 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure many people noticed already

12:13 schestowitz-TR; you just look at the jerseys

12:13 schestowitz-TR; and the league ranks

12:13 schestowitz-TR; common denopminator: huge salaries covered by dirty oil

12:13 schestowitz-TR; Liverpool if owned by some financial firm I don't truly know very well

12:13 schestowitz-TR; and they seem to have lowered their ability or willingness to spend

12:13 schestowitz-TR; so they sank in the rankings

12:13 schestowitz-TR; PSG (Paris) is the most obscene example of paying like quarter billion for one transfer

12:13 schestowitz-TR; and still having a bizarre team of "human trophies"

12:13 schestowitz-TR; dancing to enterain some sheikh

12:13 schestowitz-TR; who won't have top pay as much tax and get protection from politicians in paris

12:13 schestowitz-TR; for the "generocity"

12:33 schestowitz-TR; hmm.. only just stumbled upon https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Roy_Schestowitz

↺ https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Roy_Schestowitz

12:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Roy Schestowitz - Wikispooks

12:33 Techrightssec; checking

12:33 Techrightssec; """

12:33 Techrightssec; Wikipedia has been revealed all the way back in the 2000s by Wikiscanner to be monitored, infiltrated and its content edited by royals,

12:33 Techrightssec; dozens of intelligence agencies, hundreds of corporations and even the assistants of politicians themselves.

12:33 Techrightssec; """

12:36 schestowitz-TR; that much is rather obvious

12:36 schestowitz-TR; but takes work to show

12:36 schestowitz-TR; like nat friedman tryint to proavtively distance himself from serious scandals

12:37 schestowitz-TR; he has a whole bundle of them

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I keep notes and add more

12:37 schestowitz-TR; it'll have its time, for now he lays low

12:43 Techrightssec; Friedman is representative of the corporate culture over at m$ not an exception.

12:44 schestowitz-TR; he always swam close to the money

12:44 schestowitz-TR; even as a microsoft intern in the 90s

12:44 schestowitz-TR; so it was about power and money

12:44 schestowitz-TR; not about any practical contribution to society

12:45 Techrightssec; None of them are about contibutions or advancement of either society or

12:45 Techrightssec; technology. None. They wouldn't be attracted to that institution if they were.

12:46 schestowitz-TR; graveley is a chronological liar

12:46 schestowitz-TR; they did a popdcast together

12:46 schestowitz-TR; friedman apparently paid that 'PR' firm to destroy that link

12:46 schestowitz-TR; when you have money...

12:54 Techrightssec; ... and when there is only a single copy of the item ...

12:55 schestowitz-TR; it would be harder to recall all the books that wrongly say (because of Microsoft bribed) that Torvalds

12:55 schestowitz-TR; had plagiarised minix

12:55 schestowitz-TR; even after minix founder itself denied that

12:55 schestowitz-TR; *bribes

12:55 schestowitz-TR; *pathological

12:55 schestowitz-TR; sorry for typos

12:59 Techrightssec; The spread of disinformation has been essential to their religion.

12:59 Techrightssec; ^ cult


1 PM, November 22

13:00 schestowitz-TR; now they encoruage plagiarising billions of lines of code

13:00 schestowitz-TR; if you pay them monthly subscription to help

13:00 schestowitz-TR; to hide the plgiarism under veil of "HEY HI"

13:19 Techrightssec; It's not the plagiarism they aim for, though they enjoy that. They

13:19 Techrightssec; use it to scrape off the license and make GPL'd and other FOSS code

13:19 Techrightssec; proprietary.

13:19 Techrightssec; That's neither legal nor ethical but is embraced anyway because it happens

13:19 Techrightssec; to meet the anti-Freedom goals of m$

13:22 schestowitz-TR; yes, true

13:22 schestowitz-TR; a bit short on topics tbh other than buynothing which is due fri morn

13:22 schestowitz-TR; but not to worry, I ahve lots to catch up with, on or before thnkgicving

13:22 schestowitz-TR; *thanklgiving

13:26 Techrightssec; Thursday would be better for BND since lead time and planning determines

13:26 Techrightssec; shopping. If people /plan/ in advance to buy, the article is unlikely to

13:26 Techrightssec; affect their plans. However, if the article is in their thoughts while

13:26 Techrightssec; making plans, then it is more likely to effect a change. My 2 cents.

13:27 schestowitz-TR; i need your help. can you think of a scientific quantitative way to demonstrate demise of blogs in 2020,

13:27 schestowitz-TR; 2021, 2022? demise of social control media notwithstanding

13:27 schestowitz-TR; my feeds have a rule to delete after 30 days since read or retain while unread

13:27 schestowitz-TR; I cannot go far enough backwards

13:29 Techrightssec; Perhaps the feed links in the OPML file could be polled for last update time.

13:29 Techrightssec; No not reading the feeds per se, but polling over HTTP and checking the

13:29 Techrightssec; update time in the XML

13:30 schestowitz-TR; several pitfalls: selection bias (only surviving feeds assessed)

13:30 schestowitz-TR; scope as long as the length of the feed

13:30 schestowitz-TR; favouring ones that barely publish

13:33 Techrightssec; yes of course

13:33 Techrightssec; the feeds are not a random sample

13:33 Techrightssec; The OPML file here still has hundreds of defunct blog feeds listed, they have

13:33 Techrightssec; not been culled.

13:33 Techrightssec; The ones that publish only rarely would still count as much as the frequent

13:33 Techrightssec; posts, using the methodology I have in mind. Perhaps there is a better way.

13:33 Techrightssec; However, there is nothing in the standard about how long entries must be

13:33 Techrightssec; retained within a feed. So some feeds have only very recent articles. Others

13:33 Techrightssec; have a mixture of new along with ancient. However, the obviously defunct ones

13:33 Techrightssec; would either respond with HTTP 404 Not Found or else return only really old

13:33 Techrightssec; entries.

13:34 schestowitz-TR; let me check if others already did such research and published some numbers...

13:34 schestowitz-TR; (not likely; spoiler: nobody seems to measure share of code forges, either)

13:36 Techrightssec; I would not know how to investigate code forges. A confound there is that m$

13:36 Techrightssec; will (and is doing) it's utmost to hide and obscure data about M$ GitHub and

13:36 Techrightssec; it's loss of projects and accounts.

13:37 schestowitz-TR; with help from microsoft-bribed (fact) 'analysts' like redmonk

13:37 schestowitz-TR; and LPI/LF-connected cheerladers like FOSSLife, citing Microsoft's own marketing brochures as "facts"

13:39 schestowitz; 2009: https://www.briansolis.com/2009/11/rumors-of-the-death-of-blogs-are-greatly-exagerated/

↺ https://www.briansolis.com/2009/11/rumors-of-the-death-of-blogs-are-greatly-exagerated/

13:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.briansolis.com | Rumors of the Death of Blogs are Greatly Exaggerated - Brian Solis

13:39 schestowitz; 2019: https://hub.wtm.com/were-in-2019-and-blogs-havent-died/

↺ https://hub.wtm.com/were-in-2019-and-blogs-havent-died/

13:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-hub.wtm.com | Were in 2019 and blogs havent died | WTM Global Hub

13:40 schestowitz; "I haven't seen a post-mortem on web communities that really captures the collapse of the particular math teacher group I was part of. They always tend to focus on the demise of blogs/rise of twitter but I think that's small compared to the *professionalization* of online life."

13:40 schestowitz; nitter

13:40 schestowitz; https://www.debbiestyleslife.com/2022/08/my-7th-blog-anniversary.html

↺ https://www.debbiestyleslife.com/2022/08/my-7th-blog-anniversary.html

13:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.debbiestyleslife.com | Debbie Styles Life: My 7th Blog Anniversary

13:40 schestowitz; "I think blogging as a whole has diminished and with the demise of blogs the readers have gone bye-bye as well. Instagram and Tik-Tok are the new "flavors of the month" and have taken the place of many blogs and I find that very sad."

13:45 schestowitz-TR; apropos, many "news" sites and blogs are in a panic right now

13:45 schestowitz-TR; the lion's share of their followers are in zuckerverse and muskdom

13:45 schestowitz-TR; they didn't build a direct followerbase with rss feeds or similar

13:45 schestowitz-TR; pretty much every "youtuber" is the same

13:45 schestowitz-TR; those vloggers dance to the whims of the sponsors of youtube


2 PM, November 22

14:27 Techrightssec; FB really is a hostile enemy of news sites and blogs. Worse, many fools

14:27 Techrightssec; think that FB is a vehicle for information.

14:27 Techrightssec; fb

14:28 schestowitz-TR; fb

14:28 schestowitz-TR; a) spies on people

14:28 schestowitz-TR; b) customises what those people see; for

14:28 schestowitz-TR; c) maximal engagement (or ad-selling)

14:28 schestowitz-TR; that is not the definition of informing people but maximising diversion (ads, in.c political)

14:46 Techrightssec; Google's Youtube demonetizes and bans videos not just in pursuit of FOSS-hostile

14:46 Techrightssec; agendas but also on various undocumented whims. It's also easy enough to get

14:46 Techrightssec; a channel banned quite by accident or based on what was legitimate when posted

14:46 Techrightssec; at the time years ago.

14:46 Techrightssec; False copyright strikes are another problem area.

14:47 schestowitz-TR; it's like reddit

14:47 schestowitz-TR; sooner or later you get the messaage

14:47 schestowitz-TR; you are not wanted there

14:47 schestowitz-TR; stop cointributing

14:47 schestowitz-TR; *contributing


3 PM, November 22

15:24 Techrightssec; checking

15:24 Techrightssec; The summary could spell out "EPO" as either European Patent Office etc.

15:24 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:24 schestowitz-TR; to show you how one can handle links in the summary

15:25 schestowitz-TR; showing up inline with title, even in gemini

15:53 Techrightssec; "who ... really is..." couldbe expanded a few words

15:53 Techrightssec; and a hint about why he is a liability

15:53 Techrightssec; np

15:53 schestowitz-TR; adding, thanks...

15:59 schestowitz-TR; epo boobytrapped epo with microsoft-nsa

15:59 schestowitz-TR; and we know who signed the paperwork

15:59 schestowitz-TR; relevant to what I am proofreading right now ;-)

15:59 schestowitz-TR; it's NOT about the crime

15:59 schestowitz-TR; but about WHOI BENFITS from it


4 PM, November 22

16:36 schestowitz-TR; Spamnil's site promoting Microsoft trash again ("NVIDIA, Microsoft To Build Azure-Hosted AI Supercomputer"). 'Fuck you NVIDIA' -Torvalds

16:43 schestowitz-TR; This was always a bad idea. No IMPORTANT communications should ever have been done on "Twitter" https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/

↺ https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/

16:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/ )

↺ https://walledculture.org/if-twitter-goes-down-in-flames-what-happens-to-its-huge-and-historically-important-collection-of-tweets/

16:45 schestowitz-TR; Hopefully not: Can Twitter Survive Elon Musk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

↺ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

16:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

↺ https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=N-0Ey3eXWJo

16:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> yt.artemislena.eu | Can Twitter survive Elon Musk? | The Listening Post - Invidious

16:47 Techrightssec; The rightful outburst against Nvidia is always used as a distraction from

16:47 Techrightssec; what he said first in that Q & A session: that choosing the GPL was the

16:47 Techrightssec; best decision he ever made regarding the kernel

16:47 Techrightssec; s/kernel/Linux/

16:47 Techrightssec; I hope (or have an unfounded wish) that the governments and agencies which

16:47 Techrightssec; have been using proprietary Twitter in place of official channels of communication will wise up and change their behavior to resume usi

16:47 Techrightssec; ng and promoting their

16:47 Techrightssec; own official web sites.

16:47 Techrightssec; This kind of even was obvious a hundred miles away and years ago before

16:47 Techrightssec; Twitter even grew big. Using it can be "entertaining" but it should never

16:47 Techrightssec; be allowed to interfere with or replace official channels simply because it

16:47 Techrightssec; cannot.

16:47 Techrightssec; The best possible outcome is that this takes down both. The next best thing

16:47 Techrightssec; would be for Twitter to go down for the count, never to return.

16:48 schestowitz-TR; I agree 99%.

16:48 schestowitz-TR; the "1%" is, maybe they can download they archive, rehost it, use that as "site archive for that

16:48 schestowitz-TR; idiotic time we used some other site"

16:48 schestowitz-TR; I reckon Musk might soon disable downloads as an option

16:48 schestowitz-TR; seeing that many use that to flee for good... with their 'goods'


5 PM, November 22

17:24 Techrightssec; Not really that would still be playing into the agendas of the manipulators

17:24 Techrightssec; calling the shots at Twitter. Even the least harmful approach of making

17:24 Techrightssec; an announcement pointing only to the official pages feeds Twitter and lends

17:24 Techrightssec; it unwarranted credibility. People would assume that because the governments

17:24 Techrightssec; are using it that it is vetted and reliable. There is a lot of projection

17:24 Techrightssec; and magical thinking going on in that regard. The data, and court and

17:25 Techrightssec; congressional testimonties, show that Twitter is unreliable and maniuplative

17:25 Techrightssec; regardless of which agencies are feeding it.

17:25 Techrightssec; Stuff that /was/ in Twitter is gone. People missed their chance to try

17:25 Techrightssec; to download it and as good as 100% of those who did download either have

17:25 Techrightssec; no ability to process the format or not spare time to do so even if they can.

17:25 Techrightssec; Those that have both the ablity, interest, and time are not even a rounding

17:25 Techrightssec; error, I figure.

17:51 schestowitz-TR; Sweden Expands Espionage Law https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/21/sweden-expands-espionage-law-endangering-freedom-of-journalists-and-whistleblowers/ | Source: Scheerpost

↺ https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/21/sweden-expands-espionage-law-endangering-freedom-of-journalists-and-whistleblowers/

17:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Sweden Expands Espionage Law, Endangering Freedom of Journalists and Whistleblowers - scheerpost.com

17:52 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the main reason wikileaks was orbiting .se was the perceived protection of the host and state

17:52 schestowitz-TR; for journalism


6 PM, November 22

18:27 schestowitz-TR; Sam Varghese posting obligatory spam under "black friday" theme https://itwire.com/home-it/belong,-konec-offer-mobile-deals-for-black-friday.html\\\

↺ https://itwire.com/home-it/belong,-konec-offer-mobile-deals-for-black-friday.html\\\

18:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Belong, Konec Mobile offer deals for Black Friday


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