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07:28 schestowitz-TR; don't make fun of "tweets"
07:28 schestowitz-TR; Saudis co-own the platform now
07:28 schestowitz-TR; hatin' on tweets is Islamophobic
07:28 schestowitz-TR; soon, all m tweets must be oligarchs-compliant and halal
07:33 schestowitz[TR]; <techrights_guest|1> Just wanted to rn in here and say the site over on gemini is magnificent!
07:50 schestowitz-TR; yle: this time 5 short paragraph about a tweet
07:50 schestowitz-TR; better than just 4 paragraphs
07:50 schestowitz-TR; 30-50 words total
07:50 schestowitz-TR; fits in two "tweets", "just add water... or headline"
07:50 techrights-sec; ack
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08:20 schestowitz-TR; [08:19] <techrights-news> Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staf https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/21/report-elon-musk-plans-to-make-twitter-profitable-by-firing-75-of-the-staff/ | Source: Techdirt
08:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Report: Elon Musk Plans To Make Twitter Profitable By Firing 75% Of The Staff | Techdirt
08:20 schestowitz-TR; 'skeleton crew'
08:22 schestowitz-TR; a crew that tortures you cna puts your skeleton in a tandoori oven
08:22 techrights-sec; Thunderbird seems to consistently screw up threading in the inbox.
08:22 techrights-sec; It keeps putting unrelated messages together.
08:26 techrights-sec; It keeps putting unrelated messages together, even though the messages contain
08:26 techrights-sec; proper Message-ID and References fields in their headers. WTF is Baker doing with all that Google money? There
08:26 techrights-sec; is less and less to show for it each release, like they are going backwards.
08:27 schestowitz-TR; musk will do to twitter what baker does to firefox and mozilla/email
08:27 schestowitz-TR; cui bono?
08:27 schestowitz-TR; the capital the musk comes partly from saudis
08:27 schestowitz-TR; no twitter, no saudi dissidents in twitter
08:29 techrights-sec; Good riddance to twitter, but thunderbird and firefox had been quite useful.
08:29 techrights-sec; Yes even Firefox was useful once upon a time.
08:29 techrights-sec; With the ongoing demise of thunderbird I see her as complicit in the elimination
08:29 techrights-sec; of e-mail as a commodity service.
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10:04 schestowitz-TR; going to town, rianne needs rewplacwmene tmouse asap
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11:57 schestowitz-TR; found stuff in 6 of 7 shops
11:57 schestowitz-TR; to at least make the journey worth it, aside from getting a new durable mouse
11:57 schestowitz-TR; there was some guy at the gadgets and hardware store asking about Office
11:57 schestowitz-TR; and the shopkeeper explains to him that's what a licence is for
11:57 schestowitz-TR; they can't tell the difference between hardware store and MS BS
11:58 schestowitz-TR; he basically did NOT like the latest version of Office
11:58 schestowitz-TR; and wanted an OLD version
11:58 schestowitz-TR; I didn't say anything
11:58 schestowitz-TR; the shopkeeper asked him, what OS he was using
11:58 schestowitz-TR; the guy could not even answer the question
11:59 techrights-sec; ack
11:59 techrights-sec; excellent that there were items which could be combined to make the trip
11:59 techrights-sec; worthwhile
11:59 techrights-sec; Typical, though, that most don't even know what an OS is. Sometimes there
11:59 techrights-sec; are those that seem to think that there is only "Windows"
12:02 schestowitz-TR; exactly
12:02 schestowitz-TR; I'll post some articles shortly, I'm off work till monday evening
12:02 schestowitz-TR; there si a football match near us in 3 hours
12:02 schestowitz-TR; so I had to avoid the rush
12:02 schestowitz-TR; 3 masks
12:02 techrights-sec; as part of the hardware
12:02 techrights-sec; Big crowds then.
12:02 techrights-sec; :/
12:04 schestowitz-TR; my dad agrees with me on most of these things, but for practical reasons it's harder for him to isolate
12:04 schestowitz-TR; as a high risk group, his group might account for more than 10% extra deaths
12:04 schestowitz-TR; at least he is aware
12:04 schestowitz-TR; thought on the way: pfizer: we solve the issue, now everyone can infect everyone! WIN!
12:04 schestowitz-TR; Salk: we solved polio; now let's spread polio to 4 billion people, no worries about hospitalisation
12:04 schestowitz-TR; the stadium's carrying capacity is about 50k, with some coming early for pub etc.
12:04 schestowitz-TR; and it usualyl sells out (the team is considered best in the world or on par with best)
12:36 techrights-sec; ack
12:36 schestowitz-TR; lots of wioring work here
12:36 schestowitz-TR; rianen decided she wants my mouse and I take the new one
12:36 schestowitz-TR; it feels better so far
12:36 schestowitz-TR; and fully compatible with all the previous x configs for device #, special key identifiers etc.
12:36 schestowitz-TR; 3 mice upstairs (rianne's PCs)
12:36 schestowitz-TR; 3 downstairs (mine)
12:36 schestowitz-TR; but we use barrier for one mouse to be master
12:36 techrights-sec; ack
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15:53 schestowitz-TR; quite a spectacle
15:53 schestowitz-TR; amazing how upc tries to appoint judges who are in fact working for private patent companies
15:53 schestowitz-TR; this is going to go down in flame
15:53 schestowitz-TR; and there is more material by which to challenge the whole system
15:53 schestowitz-TR; i want to ask though,
15:53 schestowitz-TR; how much energy should TR allocate to this issue relative to other topics?
15:55 techrights-sec; UPC -> European Patent Convention?
15:55 techrights-sec; UPC -> Euroepan Patent Court>
15:55 techrights-sec; ?
15:55 techrights-sec; Both are worthy topics. The latter needs to be made to stay dead.
15:55 techrights-sec; and dance on the grave .
16:00 schestowitz-TR; ok, so you say it is indeed a high priority
16:00 schestowitz-TR; I will do a video later on, I wait for more comments to pile upo
16:00 schestowitz-TR; there are two new threads
16:00 schestowitz-TR; it was timed for friday to hide the extent of the conflicts
16:00 schestowitz-TR; and people still rush to call out the BS
16:00 schestowitz-TR; so a good video and article will highlight the comments, not the propaganda
16:00 schestowitz-TR; so now today, maybe monday when some more fodder piles up ;-)
16:00 techrights-sec; Thanks
16:00 techrights-sec; ack
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16:04 schestowitz-TR; i gave ffii a word about it
16:04 schestowitz-TR; with upc, we always felt "behind"
16:04 schestowitz-TR; the boosters lie sand play psychological games
16:04 schestowitz-TR; we need to fight back with mockery, imho
16:04 schestowitz-TR; and expose the lies
16:05 schestowitz-TR; in the process they discredit the european system
16:05 schestowitz-TR; like 4 years of trump
16:05 techrights-sec; I hope the FFII can help. Can the FSF be resurrected too?
16:05 techrights-sec; The EFF is a lost cause but there is still an obligation to make a symbolic
16:05 techrights-sec; effort.
16:05 schestowitz-TR; if you saw my last video on eff or read the textual summary, eff ddoes not even deal witth patents in the us
16:05 schestowitz-TR; anymore, only one blog posts in 50 days!
16:06 techrights-sec; Right so they can be contacted and their lack of response mocked
16:08 schestowitz-TR; open letter to eff?
16:21 techrights-sec; Possibly, but one that is well-thought out and covers all the key points.
16:21 techrights-sec; It's nothing to do in a hurry and should take quite a few days to draft. IMHO
16:28 schestowitz-TR; i've started drafting the monday-ish post re upc
16:28 schestowitz-TR; draft
16:30 techrights-sec; checking
16:30 techrights-sec; (who around TR can help with the drafting of the open letter? It would be
16:30 techrights-sec; very good to get input from several people)
16:30 techrights-sec; If opensource.com is IBM it should be mentioned in the article, if it is not
16:30 techrights-sec; then some kind of segue is needed to connect the last paragraph to the rest
16:30 techrights-sec; of the text
16:30 schestowitz-TR; I will add clarifying sentences
16:30 schestowitz-TR; re eff, someone who knows upc needs to draft
16:30 schestowitz-TR; no hurry
16:41 techrights-sec; yes
16:41 techrights-sec; no hurry on that
16:42 schestowitz-TR; UPC is ALWAYS "real soon"
16:42 schestowitz-TR; Rule #1
16:42 schestowitz-TR; don't believe them
16:49 techrights-sec; ack
17:09 techrights-sec; The arguments that the RIAA are using against AI using copyright
17:09 techrights-sec; apply even more strongly to m$ copilot in the case of software licensing.
17:09 techrights-sec; It is a situation to watch.
17:09 techrights-sec; https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-flags-artificial-intelligence-music-mixer-as-emerging-copyright-threat-221017/
17:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-RIAA Flags Artificial Intelligence Music Mixer as Emerging Copyright Threat * TorrentFreak
17:12 schestowitz-TR; we don't have the most RELEVANT material on github and copilot
17:12 schestowitz-TR; but we have many exclusives coming
17:12 schestowitz-TR; is my latest draft clearer? I changed a lot
17:12 schestowitz-TR; on upc, we need a clear strategy
17:12 schestowitz-TR; team upc plays dirty, we don't
17:12 schestowitz-TR; and "nice guys finish last"
17:14 techrights-sec; Artists working within all kinds of media have raised concerns in recent yearsand increasingly, with the rising
17:14 techrights-sec; popularity of text-to-image generators like DALL-Eabout whether AI-generated art infringes on individuals copyr
17:14 techrights-sec; ight. Most AI content generators depend on datasets that are filled with original artworks, texts, or audio, and
17:14 techrights-sec; use those original works without the owners permission. """
17:15 schestowitz-TR; they should quit calling HEY HI
17:15 schestowitz-TR; for starters
17:15 schestowitz-TR; it'sa fair user-ish blender
17:15 schestowitz-TR; and not a new issue
17:15 schestowitz-TR; it's just more automated now
17:15 schestowitz-TR; which makes it accessible to more people and harder to enforce again
17:16 techrights-sec; Yes, a strategy is needed, but I am out of ideas there, at least for the moment.
17:16 techrights-sec; That is aside from resurrecting the FSF a little.
17:16 techrights-sec; UPC -> European Patent Convention ?
17:16 techrights-sec; UPC -> European Patent Court?
17:17 schestowitz-TR; upc=unified patent court
17:17 schestowitz-TR; one strategy is, do nothing
17:17 schestowitz-TR; as it might fall apart when defendants bring it to a high court
17:17 schestowitz-TR; on all sorts of grounds
17:17 schestowitz-TR; and we can focus on other issues
17:18 schestowitz-TR; seeing that nobody i the EU enforces the f*ing law !!!
17:26 techrights-sec; That last point, enforcing the law, should be explored yet again. What recourse
17:26 techrights-sec; is there to pursue enforcement?
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17:43 schestowitz-TR; just check gemini and http+https log sizes for tm-new
17:43 schestowitz-TR; web is over 2m in sept., similar so far in oct.
17:43 schestowitz-TR; gemini also gets a good chunk
17:43 schestowitz-TR; going to finalise my post and take rest
17:43 schestowitz-TR; rianne will then post links
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18:10 techrights-sec; ack
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18:30 starstreak; linucks btw
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21:57 schestowitz; > <http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/ <http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/>>
21:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The UPC - Hopes and Headaches - Kluwer Patent Blog
21:57 schestowitz; >
21:57 schestowitz; > We need to make some more noise :-)
21:57 schestowitz; >
21:57 schestowitz; > It's not over.
21:57 schestowitz; Grabinski is a pro-swpat judge, there is an 2019 report from a confrence on ipkat where he says 'as such' blahblah.
21:57 schestowitz; Search for airbus
21:57 schestowitz; http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/10/21/the-upc-hopes-and-headaches/
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