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09:01 Techrights-sec; There are several VMs: ircd mysql-shared techrights-new techrights-old tuxmachines-new tuxmachines-old viera
09:01 Techrights-sec; These have been updated but need rebooting: mysql-shared techrights-new tuxmachin
09:01 Techrights-sec; These still need updating, followed by rebooting: ircd viera
09:01 Techrights-sec; And hv still needs a reboot, too
09:04 schestowitz-TR; thanks for upading them
09:04 schestowitz-TR; today's irc logs for social are longer than techrights
09:04 schestowitz-TR; owing to techpol
09:04 schestowitz-TR; which is what we want
09:04 schestowitz-TR; so techrights has better s/n ratio
09:04 Techrights-sec; The upgrade doesn't kick in until the reboot, when's a good time to do that?
09:04 Techrights-sec; Excellent, that the non-tech stuff has moved to techpol. With a little
09:04 Techrights-sec; guidance, maybe it can stay there.
09:06 Techrights-sec; Is 09:15 UTC an acceptable time for the reboots?
09:07 schestowitz-TR; reboots are a massive task
09:07 schestowitz-TR; due to what happens after them
09:07 schestowitz-TR; I was afk for 7 hours
09:07 schestowitz-TR; wouuld rather not add to load atm
09:07 schestowitz-TR; and I have some chares too today
09:07 schestowitz-TR; need to get two people to sign papers
09:07 Techrights-sec; $ sudo lxc-attach -n ircd
09:07 Techrights-sec; fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
09:07 Techrights-sec; ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main: UNTRUSTED signature
09:07 Techrights-sec; fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
09:07 Techrights-sec; ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community: UNTRUSTED signature
09:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org | Index of /alpine/edge/main/
09:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org | Index of /alpine/edge/community/
09:08 Techrights-sec; v3.15.0_alpha20210804-1255-g76c8efcb0c [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main]
09:08 Techrights-sec; v3.15.0_alpha20210804-1273-g8c164d3380 [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community]
09:08 Techrights-sec; 2 errors; 15251 distinct packages available
09:08 Techrights-sec; Ok, 10:15 utc then?
09:08 Techrights-sec; Or is tomorrow AM the best?
09:09 schestowitz-TR; atm I don't want to risk breaking anything
09:09 schestowitz-TR; and would rather focus on what needs signing
09:09 schestowitz-TR; not a good time for more things
09:09 Techrights-sec; $ sudo lxc-attach -n viera
09:09 Techrights-sec; fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
09:09 Techrights-sec; ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main: UNTRUSTED signature
09:09 Techrights-sec; fetch http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community/x86_64/APKINDEX.tar.gz
09:09 Techrights-sec; ERROR: http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community: UNTRUSTED signature
09:09 Techrights-sec; v20200917-1125-g7274a98dfc [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/main]
09:09 Techrights-sec; v20200917-1124-g01e8cb93ff [http://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/edge/community]
09:09 Techrights-sec; 2 errors; 13202 distinct packages available
09:19 Techrights-sec; The reboot are essential 1) so that the updates take effect (kernel)
09:19 Techrights-sec; 2) to verify that the services start on their own
09:19 Techrights-sec; Maybe 08:15 UTC tomorrow then.
09:19 Techrights-sec; hv has a script for the containers: phased-shutdown.sh
09:21 schestowitz-TR; reboots would strictly need to be done by kaniini because manual intervention is sometimes needed
09:25 Techrights-sec; Then what is the proceedure for maintaining the services?
09:25 Techrights-sec; I would expect that the containers do not needd his attention.
09:27 schestowitz-TR; it has long been like this
09:27 schestowitz-TR; because the agreement was, minimal intervention
09:27 schestowitz-TR; and atm it's a terrible time
09:27 schestowitz-TR; I overslept 5 hours
09:27 schestowitz-TR; and have far too many tasks
09:27 schestowitz-TR; things to get on top of
09:27 schestowitz-TR; some urgent
09:27 schestowitz-TR; having days of downtime in a site that does not come bakc online
09:27 schestowitz-TR; is also risk of rerandking/relisting
09:27 schestowitz-TR; (deranking
09:27 schestowitz-TR; I'll check my notes about the reboots in a few hours
09:27 schestowitz-TR; first I need to settle in
09:27 schestowitz-TR; I've not even caught up with irc yet
09:27 schestowitz-TR; 09:23] <schestowitz> "The far right has changed many words and phrases.
09:27 schestowitz-TR; [09:24] <schestowitz> " gemini://idiomdrottning.org/integration
09:28 Techrights-sec; ack
09:28 Techrights-sec; tm-new and tr-new can be rebooted tomorrow, at the least
09:29 schestowitz-TR; yes, those are a lot more reliable
09:29 schestowitz-TR; but let's talk about it later today
09:29 schestowitz-TR; it's burning me out a bit tbh
09:29 schestowitz-TR; because I oversplt
09:29 schestowitz-TR; already told rianne not to tell me anything
09:29 schestowitz-TR; as I was drowning here in tasks
09:29 schestowitz-TR; some are 'invisible'
09:29 Techrights-sec; ok
09:29 schestowitz-TR; i linked to that not because I agree
09:31 Techrights-sec; ack
09:31 schestowitz-TR; social control media fosters an unhealtrhy culture ofd,
09:31 Techrights-sec; ack
09:31 schestowitz-TR; x links to y, hencer x agrees on everything y ever said
09:31 schestowitz-TR; and should be held accountable as such
09:31 schestowitz-TR; not only links but also "likes" opr "reposts" someone else's link
09:32 schestowitz-TR; iot has gotten so bad that I need to 'hide' linking to certain p[ages, e.g. only post to -social
09:32 schestowitz-TR; hoping nobody would notice
09:32 schestowitz-TR; thought-policing
09:32 Techrights-sec; ack
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10:43 schestowitz-TR; billg send them tips
10:43 schestowitz-TR; in the bank account
10:43 schestowitz-TR; "onlt the tip"
10:43 schestowitz-TR; -drpizza
11:12 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines 18.5 years
11:12 schestowitz-TR; techrights: soon 16
11:12 schestowitz-TR; 35 years without security breaches (that we know of)
11:12 schestowitz-TR; remind me to schedule a reboot of tm and tr new maybe over the weekend
11:12 schestowitz-TR; we'll see ipfs comes back ok
11:12 schestowitz-TR; it need to be run manually, but that's the easy part
11:12 Techrights-sec; :)
11:12 Techrights-sec; Thanks. A weekend reboot would be good, among other things to cement theupgradeand for verifying the automation
11:14 Techrights-sec; I would recommend trying via hv and using
11:14 Techrights-sec; lxc-autostart -r ___
11:15 matteobin; Congrats on the anniversary! What do you think of IPFS? Why do you like, if you do, and why do you use it?
11:16 schestowitz-TR; I spent ages on ipfs yesterday
11:16 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it feels like it's now worth the effort/trouble
11:16 schestowitz-TR; but in case of major incidents
11:16 schestowitz-TR; it helps to have a contigency
11:16 schestowitz-TR; it's already "too late" when incidents happen
11:17 schestowitz-TR; some machines are as fussy a f*
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I'd not reboot them unless there is some incident
11:17 schestowitz-TR; not worth the risk
11:17 schestowitz-TR; regarding tm, rianne is posting links at
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I've just added a video
11:17 schestowitz-TR; will do a daily links lump quite soon
11:17 schestowitz-TR; trying to see how well I can clkuster by topics
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11:54 schestowitz-TR; rianne has found three very nice drainks, which are usually very expensive but are about quarter price
11:54 schestowitz-TR; due to "date"
11:54 schestowitz-TR; jord is my favourite, oat-based fom denmark
11:54 schestowitz-TR; the others are almond and coconut
11:54 Techrights-sec; Excellent
11:54 schestowitz-TR; makes the coffee and tea more interesting, or even cereal
11:55 schestowitz-TR; but finding discounted food got more difficult
11:55 schestowitz-TR; need to know times (of markdowns) better
11:55 schestowitz-TR; and rianne cycles through up to 9 stgores at a time, I think
11:55 schestowitz-TR; this route can save 200 pounds a month
11:55 schestowitz-TR; while running some errands
11:56 Techrights-sec; Yes, there is a lot of competition for it nowadays, especially with the
11:56 Techrights-sec; dumpsters being fenced *and* locked.
11:56 matteobin; I like rice milk a lot!
11:56 schestowitz-TR; i never tried it, I think
11:56 matteobin; Try it, it's very nice, maybe a bit too sweet if you are accustomed to suger-free soy milk.
11:57 schestowitz-TR; i liked sugar in the soy milk
11:57 schestowitz-TR; but they changes the price
11:57 schestowitz-TR; now you need to pay extra for the sweet one
11:57 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec:
11:57 schestowitz-TR; let the food "die in peace"
11:57 schestowitz-TR; not to be eaten by anyone
11:57 schestowitz-TR; people getting access to "free" or cheap food means fewer sales
11:57 schestowitz-TR; :s
11:58 schestowitz-TR; matteobin: my grandma used to cook rice with milk and sugar
11:58 schestowitz-TR; is this what you refer to?
11:58 matteobin; I mainly drink suger-free soy milk, if I want to sweeten it up I add honey.
11:58 schestowitz-TR; the real honey got expensive
11:59 schestowitz-TR; some don't label is right
11:59 schestowitz-TR; they say "honey"
11:59 schestowitz-TR; but it's just chemicals
11:59 matteobin; No, I'm talking about a vegetable based rice drink.
12:00 matteobin; I call it milk, but it's vegan. I call it that way for convenience' sake.
12:00 schestowitz-TR; today we made vegan "cheese"
12:01 schestowitz-TR; it was heavily discounted
12:01 schestowitz-TR; hallumi but no milk
12:01 schestowitz-TR; fried
12:01 matteobin; Here in Italy you can find local beekeepers, not too much expensive.
12:01 matteobin; Was it good?
12:02 schestowitz-TR; yeah
12:02 matteobin; My GF's mother makes some very good vegan "cheese". :D
12:03 matteobin; Cheese is the only think I sometimes miss being a vegan.
12:03 matteobin; *thing
12:04 schestowitz-TR; ah
12:04 schestowitz-TR; rianne is vegetarian
12:04 schestowitz-TR; I'm flexetarian
12:04 matteobin; Anyway there are some good vegan cheese makers out there!
12:04 schestowitz-TR; veganism is hard
12:05 matteobin; From the eating point of view, in Italy, it's not that hard, for me at least.
12:05 schestowitz-TR; here the prices are insane
12:06 schestowitz-TR; even though veganism can just mean eat bread, jam, not butter
12:06 schestowitz-TR; water, veg, fruit
12:06 schestowitz-TR; hence not so expensive
12:06 matteobin; It's harder using Free Software only. Or even harder is finding a Free Software job! :D
12:06 matteobin; Where do you live?
12:07 matteobin; Being a vegan means you'll have to cook a bit more and it can be tiresome.
12:08 schestowitz-TR; yeah, cooking helps
12:08 schestowitz-TR; rianne cooks a lot
12:08 schestowitz-TR; we live in manchester
12:08 matteobin; However I like it. Just like using Free Software. Free Software is really great!
12:08 schestowitz-TR; many people here do not and cannot cook
12:08 schestowitz-TR; apparently some countries not boast homes with no kitchens
12:08 schestowitz-TR; Free software is a long-term ivestment
12:09 matteobin; I'll be in London in November for AdventureX!
12:09 schestowitz-TR; apple is now massively hiding prices in eu-eurozone
12:09 schestowitz-TR; because they can... when people are in "i" prisons
12:09 schestowitz-TR; London is like its own country
12:09 matteobin; I've been in Ireland last April and I noticed they don't cook much there.
12:10 matteobin; I would like to visit Scotland the next summer or so.
12:10 matteobin; Do you know AdventureX?
12:12 matteobin; By the way, who is Rianne?
12:12 schestowitz-TR; no, first time I heard of it
12:12 schestowitz-TR; maybe I heard of it in passing but it didn't sink in
12:12 schestowitz-TR; rianne is the wife
12:12 schestowitz-TR; she posts in tux machines
12:12 matteobin; Your wife?
12:13 schestowitz-TR; yeah
12:13 schestowitz-TR; she has just posted 4 pages in tux machines
12:13 matteobin; I just realised you are the guy from Techrights!
12:14 matteobin; I watched your video about Rust in Linux this morning!
12:14 schestowitz-TR; yes, but there are overlaps with tux machines
12:14 schestowitz-TR; tux machines is the older site
12:15 schestowitz-TR; tux machines = the news, no opinions
12:15 schestowitz-TR; techrights: analysis and opinion
12:20 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec:
12:20 schestowitz-TR; the locking is separate from the issue of not selling on the cheap
12:20 schestowitz-TR; rianne complains that some coffee shops here throw away perfectly fine but "unsold" foods
12:20 schestowitz-TR; like sandwiches, pastriess...
12:20 schestowitz-TR; and when they put out the bin bags they intentionally mix the food with napkins and stuff
12:20 Techrights-sec; ack
12:20 schestowitz-TR; just to make it unediable
12:20 schestowitz-TR; where is the ethics inn that?
12:20 schestowitz-TR; or the worker in the kitchen/counter "voiding" the fod
12:20 schestowitz-TR; *food
12:20 schestowitz-TR; to make sure people cannot eat it or barely eat it
12:20 schestowitz-TR; they could instead give that to a food bank
12:20 schestowitz-TR; but that requires some "effort"
12:22 matteobin; The same effort that one could use to learn a Free Software tool, but people mostly don't care.
12:22 matteobin; You are right.
12:22 matteobin; You are this guy: https://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/var/albums/Ceremony-Day/DSC_5678b.jpg Right?
12:23 matteobin; I was browsing your website this morning. I'm not stalking you! :D
12:26 schestowitz-TR; look at public material is not stalking
12:27 schestowitz-TR; esp. as I put that material there myself
12:27 schestowitz-TR; I don't do FB and people don't upload photos of me
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12:59 matteobin; I was joking.
13:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, I know :D
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13:11 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Hunger https://truthout.org/video/1-person<techrights-news> Hunger https://truthout.org/video/1-person-dies-of-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: TruthOut-dies-of-hunger-every-4-seconds/ | Source: TruthOut
13:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | 1 Person Dies of Hunger Every 4 Seconds
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16:22 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/covid-comeback-in-england/
16:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Autumn Coming, COVID-19 Already Making a Comeback in England
16:27 Techrights-sec; ack
16:27 Techrights-sec; Just stop testing and stop publishing the results, and the problem goes away.
16:29 schestowitz-TR; they also need to hide excess mortality reports
16:29 schestowitz-TR; from what I saw, they use a BS foruma
16:29 schestowitz-TR; it takes past 5 years
16:29 schestowitz-TR; so in 2022 they factor in 2021 and 2020
16:29 schestowitz-TR; as if they were "normal" years
16:29 schestowitz-TR; so 2022 looks not so bad
16:29 schestowitz-TR; half your dataset is lockdown panic
16:31 Techrights-sec; ack
16:54 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/09/22/figures-from-office-for-national-statistics/
16:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Figures From UKs Office for National Statistics (ONS) Confirm: This Past Summer COVID-19 Caused the Most Deaths
16:59 schestowitz-TR; howtoforge has just committed another suicide
16:59 schestowitz-TR; instead of clownflare now it' s a popup
16:59 schestowitz-TR; I assume css
16:59 schestowitz-TR; that you cannot dismiss without some js
16:59 schestowitz-TR; so you have overlap covering the whole page, unless you click something
16:59 schestowitz-TR; that you cannot click
16:59 schestowitz-TR; ain't the www lovely?
16:59 schestowitz-TR; common practice btw, with or without js
16:59 schestowitz-TR; content ransom
17:00 matteobin; Nice! :(
17:00 matteobin; What browser do you use?
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17:11 schestowitz-TR; in this case, quiterss
17:11 schestowitz-TR; and it cannot access the site
17:11 Techrights-sec; ack
17:11 Techrights-sec; checking
17:11 Techrights-sec; HowToForge is over. There are means around that but tedious and inefficient
17:11 Techrights-sec; ones. It's not worth the effort. I wonder why HowToForge chose to impode?
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17:27 schestowitz-TR; oh oh.... did the hv just go titsup again?
17:27 schestowitz-TR; I think it did
17:27 schestowitz-TR; ok, I think it was just the network
17:28 Techrights-sec; checking
17:28 Techrights-sec; still there afaik
17:28 Techrights-sec; $ uptime
17:28 Techrights-sec; 16:25:42 up 2 days, 13:17, 0 users, load average: 2.37, 2.62, 2.89
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17:30 matteobin; Gotta go, see ya!
17:31 schestowitz-TR; 0/
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18:08 schestowitz-TR; I have just loaded the opml file
18:08 schestowitz-TR; it looks similar or overlapping what I already have from the last time
18:08 schestowitz-TR; I wrote some export thing for list of feeds before
18:08 schestowitz-TR; but we never used that to share new entries
18:08 schestowitz-TR; but I think I can run that on this new file
18:08 schestowitz-TR; and then what I have
18:08 schestowitz-TR; then do a diff
18:08 schestowitz-TR; let me check
18:08 schestowitz-TR; maybe it only added feeds I did not hjave already
18:11 Techrights-sec; It's similar. However, I don't know how to do a diff or merge easily. There
18:11 Techrights-sec; are a lot of additions but not hundreds.
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18:18 schestowitz-TR; very busyb in irc today
18:18 schestowitz-TR; the network hangup caused some confusion, bnut I crossed checked (3 clients) to assure nothing was missed
18:18 schestowitz-TR; there cano be no netsplit when there is just one beefy server
18:18 schestowitz-TR; I am getting tired and need a napo soon
18:18 schestowitz-TR; irc is busy esp. in techpol
18:18 schestowitz-TR; so the s/n ratio isn't too bad
18:18 schestowitz-TR; maybe we should indeed post MOAR links
18:18 schestowitz-TR; thoughts?
18:18 schestowitz-TR; more links per day
18:18 schestowitz-TR; inc. general links?
18:21 schestowitz-TR; I am merging the old and new opml
18:21 schestowitz-TR; i found a way :-)
18:21 schestowitz-TR; so now I have a bigger pool of material
18:21 schestowitz-TR; usually the weekends I spend going through lower priority stuff
18:21 schestowitz-TR; no gulag noise anymore
18:21 schestowitz-TR; but cherry-picked sources, over rss
18:21 schestowitz-TR; a few I check manually as they lack rss feeds
18:21 schestowitz-TR; usually every sunday
18:21 schestowitz-TR; they perish anyway over time
18:21 schestowitz-TR; not much new content
18:21 schestowitz-TR; and imagine wrtiting new posts in a site that does not have the nortion of subscribersa
18:21 schestowitz-TR; and instead things twitter or other shitware will "manage" followers
18:21 schestowitz-TR; biab
18:23 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Right wing politics on Gemini gemini://idiomdrottning.org/right-wing-politics-on-gemini "I couldnt fault anyone who bought into that worldview for going right wing. It doesnt surprise me. It just breaks my heart."
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20:43 Techrights-sec; Should the "Misinformation/Disinformation" section be amended to read:
20:43 Techrights-sec; "Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda" ?
20:43 Techrights-sec; Should the "Web Browsers" section be amended to read:
20:43 Techrights-sec; "Web Browsers/Web Servers" ?
20:43 Techrights-sec; As for quantity, I figure the quality of the links is quite good for now
20:43 Techrights-sec; and many important posts and announcements get lost in the already large
20:43 Techrights-sec; volume. Everyday there are usually a few which are highly important / relevant
20:43 Techrights-sec; and evey week there are usually one or two which are of outstanding
20:43 Techrights-sec; importance / relevant. Yet none get the attention worthy of the topic(s)
20:43 Techrights-sec; covered.
20:43 Techrights-sec; "Theres no need to balance true with false"
20:45 schestowitz-TR; the suggestions you made are good
20:45 schestowitz-TR; if you push them upstream tell me so I can run a git diff ('show')
20:45 schestowitz-TR; and amend manutally at my side for consisntency
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22:42 schestowitz-TR; So when did POP and IMAP become a legacy protocol? :"But on another level, this is concerning. Even though Microsoft announced this three years ago, it comes across as locking email down into a more centalized, proprietary system. I do have to wonder how long until Google decides that only certain clients can connect with Gmail?" gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/09/22.1
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