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06:41 schestowitz-TR; gm
06:44 schestowitz-TR; a willing reader can find out which "reporter" it is about
06:44 schestowitz-TR; as this was mentioned a month ago
06:44 schestowitz-TR; the point was not to name them outright
06:44 schestowitz-TR; ad to instead focus on the issues
06:44 schestowitz-TR; and this was FINE with the person (I asked)
06:44 schestowitz-TR; there are many gioveaways anyway
06:44 schestowitz-TR; next part deals with fake security
06:45 Techrights-sec2; of course
06:47 schestowitz-TR; I think yesterday we did about 20 posts, despite me doing a shift
06:47 schestowitz-TR; today is friday, so it'll be slow
06:47 schestowitz-TR; rianne doing extra shift, it might rain for the garden
06:47 schestowitz-TR; the food is no longer 'spilling' out the fridge
06:47 schestowitz-TR; we had hoarded too much of it
06:47 schestowitz-TR; seeing that the "normal" price are increasingly absurd
06:47 schestowitz-TR; like eggs up 70% or so
06:47 schestowitz-TR; we're far from "wheelbarrows of cach" for a loaf of bread
06:47 schestowitz-TR; but for some familities this is an impossibility
06:48 schestowitz-TR; double the size, double the trouble, double the price
06:48 Techrights-sec2; of course
06:48 Techrights-sec2; 20 is a high number
06:50 schestowitz-TR; before the pandemic we though whether second fridge would be worth the extra energy
06:50 schestowitz-TR; after the lockdowns we could not justify as we didn't go in town as much
06:50 schestowitz-TR; and the subject came back 2 weeks ago
06:50 schestowitz-TR; we rarely bring in enough to justify the extra space and operating costs
06:50 Techrights-sec2; ack
06:57 schestowitz-TR; when I was a kid the old fridge became "second firdge" but it was for a whole large family
06:57 schestowitz-TR; in our previous address, an apartment, we had one large and one small mfidge/freezer
06:57 schestowitz-TR; with rising food prices we might still get something one day
06:57 schestowitz-TR; but that must be belanced with energy price, availability of discounts (it's really bad;
06:57 schestowitz-TR; rianne visited about 7 small stoes yesterday at the "right" time... almost empty-handed)
06:57 schestowitz-TR; we can save 20-30 pounds on fruit and veg with the bicycle this summer
06:57 schestowitz-TR; if we find cheese or similar even up to 50 pounds in savings
06:57 schestowitz-TR; many factors inc. timne, day, number of people (weather) and luck
06:57 schestowitz-TR; but the plus is, we get 5 things done in one: tan, exercise, time out in nature with geese,
06:57 schestowitz-TR; food and something else... I forgot, doesn't matter much
06:57 schestowitz-TR; (it's just informal irc anyway, not a report)
06:58 Techrights-sec2; yes
06:58 Techrights-sec2; ack
06:58 DaemonFC; schestowitz-TRlike eggs up 70% or so
06:58 schestowitz-TR; yeah
06:58 DaemonFC; Eggs went to $10.78 for 60 last week.
06:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe mored
06:58 schestowitz-TR; even in aldi
06:58 DaemonFC; Now they're back at $14.48.
06:58 DaemonFC; They're all over the place.
06:58 DaemonFC; Eggland's Best was cheaper than the store brand today at Walmart.
06:59 DaemonFC; Sometimes brown eggs are the cheapest.
06:59 schestowitz-TR; that's almost 4 dollars for 15
06:59 schestowitz-TR; or 3 pounds
06:59 DaemonFC; It works out to $2.78 per dozen if you buy Eggland's Best in the 18 count right now.
06:59 DaemonFC; vs. $2.98 per dozen to get Great Value that way.
07:00 DaemonFC; Eggs are very strange right now.
07:00 schestowitz-TR; better change recipes
07:00 schestowitz-TR; with prices like these..
07:00 DaemonFC; The brands and sizes and colors don't move around in sync.
07:00 DaemonFC; So you just buy what the least worst deal is.
07:00 schestowitz-TR; .thew "news" sites here say it's due to price of grain that feeds chicken
07:00 schestowitz-TR; and point to brexit and ukraine
07:00 schestowitz-TR; but price of bread is not high
07:00 schestowitz-TR; maybe owing to subsidies
07:01 DaemonFC; schestowitz I told mom I'm making a casserole with lump crab tomorrow.
07:01 DaemonFC; And she said, "How much did that set you back?".
07:01 DaemonFC; I said, "like $25 for the crab alone".
07:02 DaemonFC; Crazy shit, man. $6.58 per can of lump crab times 4 cans.
07:02 DaemonFC; But they give us discounts on it.
07:02 DaemonFC; You get associate discount on canned meat, but not fresh meat.
07:02 DaemonFC; It's nuts.
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07:13 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: is the seamonkey review on the way?
07:13 schestowitz-TR; I was just wondering
07:24 psydruid; what was the idea behind becoming so dependent on ukraine for food and energy?
07:24 psydruid; you can't become a rich country without feeding off some poor suckers in the east?
07:33 schestowitz-TR; verty old tradition
07:33 schestowitz-TR; like the british
07:33 schestowitz-TR; coffee from there, tea from there...
07:33 schestowitz-TR; sometimes india
07:33 schestowitz-TR; it's as global capitalist system
07:34 schestowitz-TR; where you find other people to GREATER numbers whom you can exploit and impoverished, in quantities, to pamper the few
07:41 psydruid; so now we are seeing the real price of life in western society and suddenly people aren't all that rich anymore
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08:03 schestowitz-TR; exactly
08:03 schestowitz-TR; less serfdom, except to our domestic lords
08:03 schestowitz-TR; and fewer people in china exporting to us
08:03 schestowitz-TR; aka "supply chain"
08:03 schestowitz-TR; "shortages"
08:03 schestowitz-TR; grain = russia, ukraine
08:03 schestowitz-TR; eastern european farm ers
08:03 schestowitz-TR; before brexit we had them come over to becomne fruit pickers
08:04 schestowitz-TR; long hours outdoors
08:04 schestowitz-TR; low pay
08:04 schestowitz-TR; from places like latvia (eu)
08:06 Techrights-sec2; I like having the DocumentRoot in Git. It seems like a rather good practice
08:06 Techrights-sec2; for manually generated files in production.
08:06 Techrights-sec2; The script-generated files are not in Git, of course, nor is the database
08:06 Techrights-sec2; itself, but everything else is. I'm just wondering what, if any, tweaks
08:06 Techrights-sec2; can be made to the database structure. Not that it matters much, it's more
08:06 Techrights-sec2; of a principle thing at this point. The navigation script's SQL query needs
08:06 Techrights-sec2; some modification to cover the case where a gap of a day or longer exists
08:06 Techrights-sec2; between the latest post and the previous one.
08:06 schestowitz-TR; yes, i thought of asking last wwek
08:06 schestowitz-TR; if git is down, it still works
08:06 schestowitz-TR; if DB down, e.g. for maintenance of backup, things still work
08:06 schestowitz-TR; our current DB has not been in need of repair for nearly 5 opr 6 days now
08:06 schestowitz-TR; the issue is, due to lossy recovery we'd need to revert back to 27/6/2022 dump at
08:07 schestowitz-TR; some point and make copies of all the nodes posted since then
08:08 Techrights-sec2; The trick there will be to spot the gap and go back n days to update
08:08 Techrights-sec2; the previous post's navigation menu.
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08:32 Techrights-sec2; Ok, finding the previous post was easy.
08:32 Techrights-sec2; Now finding a way to retrofit the previous post will be more complicated.
08:33 schestowitz-TR; sorry, was away clearning the fish's filter
08:33 schestowitz-TR; seems like the ngine may be warming up the water a bit
08:33 schestowitz-TR; seems a lot warmed than room temp
08:33 schestowitz-TR; but that's good
08:33 schestowitz-TR; catching up now, very busy in IRC today, need to look away
08:33 schestowitz-TR; as I keep forgetting things I was gonna do, happened 3 or 4 times this past day
08:33 schestowitz-TR; and it's always annoying when this happens
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09:54 Techrights-sec2; have updated tm-extract-posts-sql.pl to retrofit the most recent previous
09:54 Techrights-sec2; record even if it is older than one or more days
09:54 Techrights-sec2; it might need a little testing but seems to work
09:55 schestowitz-TR; what test case? like not p posting today but adding some tomorrow?
09:55 Techrights-sec2; yes skipping at least one day between postings
09:55 schestowitz-TR; OK, I shall do this
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14:06 schestowitz-TR; money grows on trees
14:06 schestowitz-TR; later there is "inflation"
14:09 Techrights-sec2; maybe Linus should be angling for a too-big-to-fail bailout / handout of
14:09 Techrights-sec2; some kind
14:09 Techrights-sec2; he could buy himself free from the LF then
14:09 schestowitz-TR; did you see what I posted re LF 5 mins ago?
14:09 schestowitz-TR; use http for screenshots
14:09 schestowitz-TR; there is al and caption
14:09 schestowitz-TR; but not as descrpotive
14:12 Techrights-sec2; not yet ... checking
14:12 Techrights-sec2; ok checking the images now too
14:12 Techrights-sec2; I wonder if they are collaborating with Alphabet to line up a situation where
14:12 Techrights-sec2; Fuchsia can easily move into and replace Linux's market
14:12 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:13 schestowitz-TR; it's a national failure that LT went to CA for some absolutely shit company and later Potrland to be a slave
14:13 schestowitz-TR; the nation could provide capital for all that innovation to happen at home, like with nokia ~100 years ago
14:13 schestowitz-TR; this seems to be a eu-wide problem
14:13 schestowitz-TR; while pentagon bleeds the us treasury dry
14:13 schestowitz-TR; living like it's the 1960s and the only world superpowers should race to death (cold war) at all cost
14:13 schestowitz-TR; in case it culminates in a ww3 with nukes (that were already used twice)
14:13 schestowitz-TR; speaking of gulag, daniel po wrote last night about the contunied exodus of debian developers
14:13 schestowitz-TR; they add like one new dev a month
14:13 schestowitz-TR; a lost like 10
14:13 schestowitz-TR; well done, gulag/spi
14:13 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's even considerd a net gain in zero-sum mindsets
14:16 Techrights-sec2; I should check his blog, I check the blogs in RSS only a few times per week
14:16 Techrights-sec2; The problem with such an exodu is that so many distros are downstream from
14:16 Techrights-sec2; Debian still. One can only hope that some (or many) end up at Devuan
14:16 Techrights-sec2; and then that at some point the distros rebase their upstream source to Devuan
14:16 Techrights-sec2; or at least in an ideal world that could happen
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15:08 schestowitz-TR; ota
15:09 schestowitz-TR; done, epo pretending to be buddies with ukraine again
15:09 schestowitz-TR; we need to patiently rebut every single time
15:09 schestowitz-TR; it hurts their credibility
15:09 schestowitz-TR; what a bunch of criminals
15:29 schestowitz-TR; draft
15:37 Techrights-sec2; checking
15:37 Techrights-sec2; The acronym ILOAT ought to be expanded
15:37 Techrights-sec2; In the second to last sentence "this" could be clarified
15:37 Techrights-sec2; The first occurence of "UPC" can be expanded, is it European Patent Convention
15:37 Techrights-sec2; or something else?
15:37 Techrights-sec2; Same for the other acronym, EUIPO
15:37 schestowitz-TR; added abbr and href for iloat in two places
15:37 schestowitz-TR; euipo was already a link
15:37 schestowitz-TR; first time around
15:37 schestowitz-TR; but I don't want to expand the acronym
15:37 schestowitz-TR; just say TRADEMARKS now
15:41 Techrights-sec2; ok, there is also the HTML element "abbr" which can be used. It is important
15:41 Techrights-sec2; that the jargon be made accessible for those that use the page as an entry
15:41 Techrights-sec2; to the site. Hey it can happen.
15:42 schestowitz-TR; yes, I've used abbr for nearly 20 years
15:42 schestowitz-TR; I allso added that for iloat in the summart
15:42 schestowitz-TR; I am trying to lessen how much I cite wikipedia tbh
15:42 schestowitz-TR; this monopoly of authortiy is exploited by pr agencies
15:42 schestowitz-TR; they undo factual edits
15:42 schestowitz-TR; I hear more and more of this
15:42 schestowitz-TR; it's an army of guard dogs
15:42 Techrights-sec2; thanks
15:42 Techrights-sec2; wikipedia can be avoided when possible
15:44 Techrights-sec2; yep it's about which companies / interests can gather the larger hoards to
15:44 Techrights-sec2; camp out on a topic and, when it comes down to an edit war, win over the
15:44 Techrights-sec2; admins to their position
15:44 Techrights-sec2; It's not been about facts for many years, especially not in the tech articles
15:44 Techrights-sec2; Recall what M$ did to the ODF articles
16:28 schestowitz-TR; our connection has been very stable since they installed the latest version here 19 months ago
16:28 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to tinker with anything there
16:28 schestowitz-TR; though when I had issues (my fault) earlier this year I change thr frequencye (5ghz iirc)
16:28 schestowitz-TR; not that this solved anything
16:28 schestowitz-TR; and have not reverted back to what it was by default
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16:57 schestowitz-TR; draft
16:57 schestowitz-TR; window of opportunity to halt swpats ploy
16:57 schestowitz-TR; hmmm typo in image, correcting in gimp
16:57 schestowitz-TR; I use links to the relevant parts of the serties in the names
16:57 schestowitz-TR; the summary gets expanded to include gemini links for articles about those
16:57 schestowitz-TR; people. I've checked.
16:59 Techrights-sec2; old
16:59 Techrights-sec2; ^wrong paste
16:59 Techrights-sec2; checking
16:59 Techrights-sec2; just a graphic. Again the use of nicknames needs supplmenting with the
16:59 Techrights-sec2; real names so that it is clear even to non-native speakes who is being
16:59 Techrights-sec2; referred to
16:59 Techrights-sec2; the links are not of use in Gemini however
16:59 Techrights-sec2; for that the text needs to be self-contained
16:59 Techrights-sec2; the people we can reach through Gemini are probably really advantageous
16:59 Techrights-sec2; to have interested in the topic(s)
16:59 Techrights-sec2; The links are there, but the text doesn't flow and in the HTML version there
16:59 Techrights-sec2; are too many links to be convenient or clear. Gopher, which we have not
16:59 Techrights-sec2; explored yet, doesn't even have such links so the text really would need to
16:59 Techrights-sec2; be self-explanatory / self-contained if we were to try Gopher too
17:00 schestowitz-TR; ok, so next time I mention a nickname I will add full name too and some descriptive words like
17:00 schestowitz-TR; role
17:00 schestowitz-TR; i wonder how many people still actively use gopher
17:00 schestowitz-TR; or what the "edit wars" in wikipedia say
17:00 schestowitz-TR; it looks like many gopherholes "expanded" to gemini tao take advantage of it
17:00 schestowitz-TR; which gives gemini some good momentum
17:15 Techrights-sec2; gemini has a lot of movement but not the exponential growth like in the early
17:15 Techrights-sec2; WWWW
17:15 Techrights-sec2; ^WWW
17:15 Techrights-sec2; the search engines seem to ignore articles about Gemini in addition to the
17:15 Techrights-sec2; problem that the name is too generic
17:15 schestowitz-TR; screw searah engine
17:15 schestowitz-TR; I write for people
17:15 schestowitz-TR; not for machines
17:16 schestowitz-TR; seo is a niche thing for people WHO SELL itsemf online
17:16 schestowitz-TR; to them, traffic needs "conversion" rate to money
17:16 Techrights-sec2; yes, of course, it does however impede looking for new material
17:16 Techrights-sec2; search engines have all become garbage
17:18 schestowitz-TR; also seo is trends
17:18 schestowitz-TR; it comes ago
17:18 schestowitz-TR; as they adapt
17:18 schestowitz-TR; so you end up spending amload of time
17:18 schestowitz-TR; studying sttas
17:18 schestowitz-TR; iow spying on people
17:18 schestowitz-TR; and twesking pages
17:18 schestowitz-TR; time that could instead be used to refine material for people
17:18 schestowitz-TR; and be less transient in that ssense that even 20 years down the line it's
17:18 schestowitz-TR; better, not just in the "keyword stuffing" sense
17:18 schestowitz-TR; I lived and learned from mistkaes
17:18 schestowitz-TR; wasted lots of time on this 15+ years ago
17:18 schestowitz-TR; regret? no. because I learned from these errors.
17:18 schestowitz-TR; there is a couple of new search engines for gemini and d detailed articles on the subject today in
17:18 schestowitz-TR; gemini://
17:18 schestowitz-TR; very detailed
17:18 schestowitz-TR; it's in Daily Links
17:18 Techrights-sec2; ack
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17:43 Techrights-sec2; /var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs on news.tuxmcahines.org is now pulled from Git
17:43 Techrights-sec2; in practice read-only since the account does not have write access to the
17:43 Techrights-sec2; Git repository; I'm not sure about best practice in that regard.
17:43 Techrights-sec2; Yes and then pull to news.tuxmachines.org
17:43 schestowitz-TR; so we can make changes to pages by git push
17:43 schestowitz-TR; and roll back if needed great!
18:31 Techrights-sec2; the question is where the changes should be made right now they cannot be made
18:31 Techrights-sec2; in /var/www/tuxmachines.org/* at all, but I guess the groups and permissions
18:31 Techrights-sec2; should be set up so that everyone gets their own login
18:31 Techrights-sec2; and then the shared group gets write access to the repository, but that still
18:31 Techrights-sec2; leaves the generic tm account
18:32 schestowitz-TR; i set up that account to avoid being root
18:32 schestowitz-TR; without much planning ahead
18:38 Techrights-sec2; ok some placeholder accounts might be in order then
18:38 schestowitz-TR; working till 1am, will publish part 11 around midnight, cleaning rss feeds till then
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19:09 schestowitz-TR; draft publication around 5 hours from now
19:09 schestowitz-TR; maybe you can help weed out typos or suggest things
19:09 schestowitz-TR; one part befor the finale
19:09 schestowitz-TR; the hope it that we can stop or delay their plans
19:10 schestowitz-TR; I don't add memes to the main series
19:10 schestowitz-TR; to keep it professional
19:10 schestowitz-TR; if you look at it now, you might spot typos
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19:31 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:31 Techrights-sec2; ok
19:32 Techrights-sec2; 2nd paragraph, why is Weber the subject of this article? Maybe combine with the
19:32 Techrights-sec2; 1st paragraph
19:32 Techrights-sec2; The paragraph """Before long he was marketing himself as an expert on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions.""" could have a short rebuttal
19:32 Techrights-sec2; as to why that line of approach for patents is bogus
19:32 Techrights-sec2; the sarcasm doesn't come through in """From an EPO managerial perspective ..."
19:32 Techrights-sec2; so perhaps a more negative description could be used
19:32 schestowitz-TR; yes, thanks, that part was not mine
19:32 schestowitz-TR; and I wanted to reword it a bit
19:32 schestowitz-TR; I'll work on that later on
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19:49 schestowitz; > Notice the blog title changed, the part about the girl just becomes
19:49 schestowitz; > "Albania questions unanswered"
19:49 schestowitz; >
19:49 schestowitz; > As Shuttleworth's name is in the title, it is probably better to avoid
19:49 schestowitz; > risk of confusion.
19:50 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:50 Techrights-sec2; CPAN's XML::Feed is not available in Alpine afaik
19:55 Techrights-sec2; HTML::TreeBuilder::XPath is missing too
19:55 schestowitz-TR; Can they be compiled?
19:56 Techrights-sec2; not compiled but added manually however, I've never had good luck with mixing
19:56 Techrights-sec2; and matching like that; some extra planning will be necessary
19:57 schestowitz-TR; there's always a way
19:57 schestowitz-TR; but getting there takes a lot of effort the first time around
19:57 schestowitz-TR; for centos, for instance, tmux wa s binary from a third-party source
20:37 schestowitz-TR; [20:33] <AdmFubar> https://atlasvpn.com/blog/microsoft-office-flaws-exploited-in-nearly-80-of-malware-attacks
20:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-atlasvpn.com | Microsoft Office flaws exploited in nearly 80% of malware attacks - Atlas VPN
20:37 schestowitz-TR; [20:33] <DaemonFC> The only gun in Illinois that's really practical if you're going to use it for self-defense is one small enough to conceal.
20:37 schestowitz-TR; [20:33] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- atlasvpn.com | Microsoft Office flaws exploited in nearly 80% of malware attacks - Atlas VPN
20:37 Techrights-sec2; tryign some things but will have to continue tomorrow once there is a chance
20:37 Techrights-sec2; for a pause
20:44 schestowitz-TR; i thought you might wish to save this reference
20:44 schestowitz-TR; as it supports something you oftentimes utter whereas the media seldom mentions
20:49 Techrights-sec2; thanks
20:55 Techrights-sec2; done wrestling with CPAN for now. some progress made but hopefully not a
20:55 Techrights-sec2; mess at the same time
20:55 schestowitz-TR; 0/
21:05 DaemonFC; schestowitz That's a pitfall of LibreOffice too.
21:05 DaemonFC; It implements Microsoft macros.
21:05 DaemonFC; So a fair deal of viruses can run in that too!
21:05 schestowitz-TR; iirc, off by default
21:06 schestowitz-TR; micerosoft thought about uit
21:06 schestowitz-TR; then changed its mind
21:06 DaemonFC; Yes, it's off by default in LibreOffice.
21:06 DaemonFC; So it would require (1) a bit of effort to "port" the malware to attack a GNU/Linux system and (2) social engineering to get the user to take a non-default action to run it.
21:06 DaemonFC; Which is a lot better at least.
21:07 DaemonFC; Too close for comfort.
21:07 DaemonFC; I use AbiWord when I can get away with it, which is usually, and often save it to Rich Text Format.
21:07 DaemonFC; Which Microsoft stopped updating in 2006.
21:08 DaemonFC; The structure of RTF is not great, but it's not OOXML or Binary Document formats either.
21:08 DaemonFC; The Register wrote an entire article on how Word would often leak out earlier drafts of the file that contained things that the author changed their mind about, or thought that they redacted.
21:09 DaemonFC; When you use RTF, it at least writes out a new file without previous versions present.
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