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1 AM, April 22

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06:19 schestowitz-TR; I've extended this to all 3 DBs nowq

06:19 schestowitz-TR; today's dump at TM was OK

06:19 schestowitz-TR; So far I saw no such issues at the TM VM

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06:46 schestowitz-TR; on TR, as I have just checked, all 3 DB dumps were OK

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08:49 Techrights-sec; ack


9 AM, April 22

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09:25 Techrights-sec; there seems to have been no coverage of Julian Assange in the press this week

09:25 Techrights-sec; despite being handed a defacto death sentence

09:25 Techrights-sec; there are still the appeals which will also be a rubber stamp decision

09:25 Techrights-sec; unless politics in the UK change soon

09:25 Techrights-sec; or those with conflicts of interest are recused from the process

09:26 schestowitz-TR; ack

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10:31 schestowitz-TR; "A court in Great Britain ordered the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States" https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/le

↺ https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/le

10:31 schestowitz-TR; tter-from-adolfo-perez-esquivel-nobel-peace-laureate/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange

10:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-dontextraditeassange.com | Letter from Adolfo Prez Esquivel, Nobel Peace laureate - Don't Extradite Assange

10:31 schestowitz-TR; I see a lot of negative light around Twitter lately

10:31 schestowitz-TR; Facebook also, but FB as long had this issue

10:31 schestowitz-TR; There are 3-4 links about it in the Daily Links and posts in IRC

10:32 schestowitz-TR; When accessinf Twitter last night I saw still "faking" of "engagement"

10:32 schestowitz-TR; but I also saw Twitter apparently retreiving the black man meme OK on 20 Apr

10:32 schestowitz-TR; i.e. quite a few days after it was first published

10:32 schestowitz-TR; and less than a day before I noticed the broken file

10:32 schestowitz-TR; I hope it's just some rare technical glitch

10:32 schestowitz-TR; rather than me being 'shadow-edited'

10:32 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I might go cycling today for the first time Oct 2019

10:32 schestowitz-TR; Depending on the state of the chains etc.

10:36 Techrights-sec; ack

10:36 Techrights-sec; you mean the Yo Dawg recursion meme?

10:38 schestowitz-TR; the meme from the post about LF CoC

10:38 schestowitz-TR; when you spot something missing, however rare, it's worth understanding why it happened

10:38 schestowitz-TR; so it does not happen again

10:38 schestowitz-TR; the faulty backup file is something we saw weeks ago but did not worry about too

10:38 schestowitz-TR; much as soon as TM was restored to normal

10:38 schestowitz-TR; cycling can be done here near canals and in parks, avoiding both risky and pollution

10:38 schestowitz-TR; getting to the canal involved crossing the road once

10:38 Techrights-sec; from last week or so?

10:39 schestowitz-TR; yes, my first reaction was, maybe someone did not like it and can access that file

10:39 schestowitz-TR; but it did not look tampered with


11 AM, April 22

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noon, April 22

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2 PM, April 22

14:50 Techrights-sec; ack

14:50 Techrights-sec; Ubuntu 22.04 seems to allow/push M$ ActiveDirecctory integration during the installation. It's tragic that "AD" has been allowed to

14:50 Techrights-sec; proliferate to

14:50 Techrights-sec; the extent it has now spread. It also pushed integration with online

14:50 Techrights-sec; accounts rather than warning

14:50 Techrights-sec; The installation process also pushes a lot of proprietary applications,

14:50 Techrights-sec; again without warning or alternativces

14:50 Techrights-sec; It seems to be getting further and further from Freedom

14:50 Techrights-sec; And firefox is a 'snap' not a normal package

14:51 schestowitz-TR; back from cycling, we got big discounts at the store too

14:51 Techrights-sec; excellent

14:51 Techrights-sec; how many km ?

14:51 schestowitz-TR; maybe 10, but canal and up/downhill

14:52 Techrights-sec; nice. sounds scenic as well

14:53 schestowitz-TR; more than 100 geese on the war, some toulouse geese and swan too

14:53 schestowitz-TR; we fed some, but bread runs out

14:53 schestowitz-TR; anyway, first time in ages

14:53 schestowitz-TR; I am going to open these two links now

14:58 schestowitz-TR; earlier this week I read that russian sanctions now mean more "lumber" (nature) gets taken away from nardic nations

14:58 schestowitz-TR; this overpopulation thins won't live much but conrete jungles within 50-100 years

14:58 schestowitz-TR; *won't leave

14:58 schestowitz-TR; even when humans are gone the ugly jugles will stay around for a good while

14:58 schestowitz-TR; but if humans nuke or "conventionally" bomb the jungles, it's even worse


3 PM, April 22

15:03 Techrights-sec; Yes lumber comes from the Nordic nations which consist of tree farms. There

15:03 Techrights-sec; is actually very little forest remaining, just tree farms of various sizes.

15:03 Techrights-sec; At least trees are a renewable resource if managed correctly and part

15:03 Techrights-sec; of the natural carbon cycle not breaking stuff out from the fossile carbon

15:03 Techrights-sec; pool

15:03 Techrights-sec; The peat farming is a different matter though, that carbon is on the way out

15:03 Techrights-sec; and should not be used. Peat is a step next to lignite :( :( :(

15:08 schestowitz-TR; 1) I did wonder about 3-d printers before

15:08 schestowitz-TR; like car-sharing, or printer-sharing (in households)

15:08 schestowitz-TR; I think it's far too wasteful, unless you do it as a professionm, to have a 3-d printer at home

15:08 schestowitz-TR; thje printers such

15:08 schestowitz-TR; they cannot cut hard metal

15:08 schestowitz-TR; CNC it's called IIC

15:08 schestowitz-TR; better to have various shops across town, you give them cad files and they make it for you

15:08 schestowitz-TR; better quality, less waste

15:08 schestowitz-TR; manchester had an experiment to that effect

15:08 schestowitz-TR; 2) gnu/linux distros shilling proprietary junk for "advantage" is NOT a new think

15:08 schestowitz-TR; happened a lot in the 90s

15:08 schestowitz-TR; the news is, ubuntu is becoming less like debian and more like.. not sure I should say windows

15:08 schestowitz-TR; maybe android/ios/ oSUCKS

15:08 schestowitz-TR; I noticed the same in LMDE installer and said it in IRC in real time that day

15:08 schestowitz-TR; they listed more proprietary things (promotions) than the free stuff

15:13 schestowitz-TR; ideally, I think, companies that make "things" should provide CAD files for key components

15:13 schestowitz-TR; esp. if they don't offer repairs or spares

15:13 schestowitz-TR; then, when things break, you can take the "order" (cad file) down to the local shop

15:13 schestowitz-TR; but the way today's things are manufactured ispoor in the modularity sense

15:13 schestowitz-TR; they just don't make it repeairable

15:13 schestowitz-TR; that's afterthought at best

15:13 schestowitz-TR; I checked some electric kettles today

15:13 schestowitz-TR; bought none, I do't trust them to last long

15:13 schestowitz-TR; we'll keep using the hob with a pot

15:18 Techrights-sec; ubuntu seems to be more like iOS but whatever it is, itseems more and more

15:18 Techrights-sec; proprietary each release cycle

15:18 Techrights-sec; apparently there are a lot of CAD files for 3D printing various car-related

15:18 Techrights-sec; widgets

15:18 Techrights-sec; hob with a pot works rather well, especially if it is covered; there are

15:18 Techrights-sec; also the old style kettles which sit on the hob and whistle once they have

15:18 Techrights-sec; enough steam

15:18 Techrights-sec; they need to be decalicified periodically though

15:18 Techrights-sec; just like the others

15:18 schestowitz-TR; our broken kettle started rusting at the bottom after just a year

15:18 schestowitz-TR; we rarely left it with any water inside

15:19 schestowitz-TR; these things are not made to last

15:19 schestowitz-TR; it's not an objective

15:19 schestowitz-TR; and their competition seems to be in kahoots

15:19 schestowitz-TR; cahoots

15:19 schestowitz-TR; with them on it

15:19 schestowitz-TR; why not?

15:19 schestowitz-TR; what have they got to lose?

15:34 Techrights-sec; there is the potential for some new legislation requiring 'reparable' products

15:34 Techrights-sec; however the devil is in the details and the actual definition and requirements

15:38 schestowitz-TR; 0/

15:38 schestowitz-TR; definition of "green" cars: proprietary piles of shit. "THROW AWAY YOUR OLD CLUNKER!!

15:38 schestowitz-TR; Buy THIS new cars... and then use the brand news batteries, recharge them using air and water ;-)"

15:39 schestowitz-TR; or with "green" charging stations, in ...

15:39 schestowitz-TR; you get my drift

15:39 schestowitz-TR; sometimes the legislation doesn't tackle the core issue, which keeps the money

15:39 schestowitz-TR; 'circulating'

15:39 schestowitz-TR; car-sharing is not even in the books

15:39 schestowitz-TR; even though it is very practical when you know neighbours

15:39 schestowitz-TR; having a car unused 95-99% of the time is money down the drain

15:39 schestowitz-TR; and you might be better of with taxis

15:39 schestowitz-TR; gov. can lower their tariffs, e.g. by offering them cheaper fuel

15:39 schestowitz-TR; this is something which was done when I was a kid

15:52 Techrights-sec; yes taxis are still rather cost effective compared to full ownership of cars

15:52 Techrights-sec; despite the outrageous rate increases

15:54 schestowitz-TR; like trains, buses etc.

15:54 schestowitz-TR; they are very good for

15:54 schestowitz-TR; 1) env.

15:54 schestowitz-TR; 2) locals, esp. lesser privileged

15:54 schestowitz-TR; but they are not good for moneyed interests, not limited to car "companies"

15:54 schestowitz-TR; insurance etc.

15:54 schestowitz-TR; so you would expect antagonism to affordable and DECENT public transport

15:54 schestowitz-TR; the trains here became as expaneive as flight tickets for some routes

15:54 schestowitz-TR; you would get a better fare for a flight between UK cities

15:56 Techrights-sec; there's probably no avoiding needing 1 car if one has kids but with proper

15:56 Techrights-sec; infrastructure, it should be possible to avoid needing a second car

15:56 Techrights-sec; most routing trips, such as a work commute, are usually better via mass

15:56 Techrights-sec; transit; the time can be used for reading or similar and not just wasted

15:56 Techrights-sec; behind the wheel


4 PM, April 22

16:02 schestowitz-TR; I have taken a TOn of BS out of my life

16:02 schestowitz-TR; I still gets tons of spam from my bank tryint to sell my lifestyle through loans

16:02 schestowitz-TR; the more incure people are vulnerable to this

16:02 schestowitz-TR; they are desperate to show off to people

16:02 schestowitz-TR; like Ryan's sister in law "MARISOL" [sic]

16:02 schestowitz-TR; overcompensating for growing up in a slum

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 1) 1 kid is already too much. The cost of a first is almost the highest

16:02 schestowitz-TR; for a whole lot of reasons (yes, we discussed it here before, many times)

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 2) second car is like second home (divorice)

16:02 schestowitz-TR; (rianne has just interrupted me, saying the enrgy company sent a person here today

16:02 schestowitz-TR; to read the meter; they seem to treat us specially now)

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 3) looking for parking is time-consuming, the 6-10 costs and chores associated

16:02 schestowitz-TR; with owning a car aside (I used to enumerate them mentally)

16:02 schestowitz-TR; 4) public transport is safer, the fact you can read while traveling being a plus

16:02 schestowitz-TR; some even electric sockets

16:02 schestowitz-TR; but reading from paper is good too

16:02 schestowitz-TR; if only all these "self-driving" fantasists stopped and thought what that means

16:02 schestowitz-TR; wrt to public transport

16:02 schestowitz-TR; The Register wrote today about how 'drivers '(now passengers) would be allowed

16:02 schestowitz-TR; to watch a movie

16:02 schestowitz-TR; they can do the same inside a train

16:02 schestowitz-TR; and it's a lot safer than letting a non-human driver crash into things

16:02 schestowitz-TR; like cyclists or even walls

16:03 Techrights-sec; loans are (most of the time) for fools

16:03 Techrights-sec; yep there is a perverse incentive pushing divorces on society, however

16:03 Techrights-sec; it's more of the same:

16:03 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

16:03 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/That_Which_Is_Seen,_and_That_Which_Is_Not_Seen

↺ https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/That_Which_Is_Seen,_and_That_Which_Is_Not_Seen

16:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Parable of the broken window - Wikipedia

16:03 Techrights-sec; 2) if you're paying for them to read the (*&^% meter they better (*&^% well

16:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikisource.org | Essays on Political Economy/That Which Is Seen, and That Which Is Not Seen - Wikisource, the free online library

16:03 Techrights-sec; show up and actually read it

16:03 Techrights-sec; If I recall correctly up to a third of the distances driven in cities is spent

16:03 Techrights-sec; hunting for parking; it should be treated more like a routing problem with

16:03 Techrights-sec; dynamic signs and such at key intersections to route traffic to the right places

16:05 schestowitz-TR; cars are just too big

16:05 schestowitz-TR; even bicycles can be big

16:05 schestowitz-TR; hence the foldable ones became a hit

16:05 schestowitz-TR; in japan they have machines thet stack them up underground, IIRC

16:05 schestowitz-TR; sksteboards are OK logitically

16:05 schestowitz-TR; or scooters

16:05 schestowitz-TR; but they have an image problem

16:05 schestowitz-TR; weather aside

16:05 schestowitz-TR; you can take them into the office without any problem

16:05 schestowitz-TR; no need for locks or worries about weather etc.

16:07 Techrights-sec; I don't think that most people consider hunting for parking and getting to or

16:07 Techrights-sec; from the parking place as part of the time cost of any given trip, even

16:07 Techrights-sec; to downtown

16:11 schestowitz-TR; "you need to use the car!!! You already paid for it! The battery is low! Show

16:11 schestowitz-TR; people you have a car? What else is the point having one !!"

16:11 schestowitz-TR; it is the same with flights

16:11 schestowitz-TR; the overhead associated with getting there, waiting, takeoff, landing, passports and check-in for international travel (

16:11 schestowitz-TR; even domestic needs check-in, same for boats)

16:11 schestowitz-TR; the advertised time is marketing 101

16:11 schestowitz-TR; and it is mentally draining too

16:11 schestowitz-TR; but they focus on the meal inside the plane

16:11 schestowitz-TR; or the "lounge" at the airport

16:11 schestowitz-TR; the gates to the plane are no lounge and you don't get a holicopter from the living room to the airport's roof

16:11 schestowitz-TR; they have sayings along the lines of,

16:12 schestowitz-TR; everybody shits

16:12 schestowitz-TR; or something along those lines

16:12 schestowitz-TR; (sometimes farts)

16:12 schestowitz-TR; as long as you are human you cannot avoid the tolls and the 'downtime'

16:12 schestowitz-TR; and you too will age!

16:12 schestowitz-TR; even if you hide it by stretching and injecting things

16:12 Techrights-sec; skate board are rather good, except for the image problem

16:12 Techrights-sec; sunk cost fallacy

16:12 Techrights-sec; flights are worse than cars

16:12 Techrights-sec; FWIW today is Earth Day

16:14 schestowitz-TR; skateboards are one form of sheel 4 humans

16:14 schestowitz-TR; old story about einstein, he asked his parents why his sister (IIRC) did not have wheels

16:14 schestowitz-TR; we are very slow animals

16:14 schestowitz-TR; no idea how we survived in nature

16:14 schestowitz-TR; we never had big numbers anyway...

16:14 schestowitz-TR; *wheel 4 humans

16:16 Techrights-sec; cosmetic surgery usually is both quite visible and worse than leaving things

16:16 Techrights-sec; as they were, in most cases; burns and other injuries are the exception

16:16 Techrights-sec; of course

16:16 Techrights-sec; Ogre (cyborg) tank(s)

16:16 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogre_(board_game)

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogre_(board_game)

16:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Ogre (board game) - Wikipedia

16:21 schestowitz-TR; I have worked from home for so long that I find it hard to imagine not doing that

16:21 schestowitz-TR; except for the rare, few days

16:21 schestowitz-TR; I did have some open office experience over the years for a few days

16:21 schestowitz-TR; t

16:22 schestowitz-TR; That has educational value: DO NOT DO THIS

16:22 schestowitz-TR; They make even 6-figure salary engineers sit in a little cubicle

16:22 schestowitz-TR; to "maximise" value derived from them

16:22 schestowitz-TR; it's a cage or leash of metal and glass

16:22 schestowitz-TR; aka "the dream job"

16:22 schestowitz-TR; few jobs, from what I have read, pay that much and also let you work from home

16:22 schestowitz-TR; pandemic aside

16:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe 10% of the jobs or less

16:22 schestowitz-TR; IIRC, during pandemic it rose to 20%

16:22 schestowitz-TR; but, you know, it's "over now" they insist

16:22 schestowitz-TR; so probably bakc to the prior % already

16:22 schestowitz-TR; reminds me to check the COVID number this evening... at least the shop where we were has great distancing, sanitiser, plastic separat

16:22 schestowitz-TR; ors etc.

16:22 schestowitz-TR; most of the people who still wear mask here are east asian

16:22 schestowitz-TR; like it's a fashion statement, not a practical consideration

16:23 Techrights-sec; tracks not wheels there

16:23 Techrights-sec; open plan offices are not about savings of any kind but about taming, breakingor controlling the plebes

16:23 Techrights-sec; yes, a /windowless/ cage of metal and glass; the windows are rewards for

16:23 Techrights-sec; sucking up enough

16:23 Techrights-sec; ack

16:23 Techrights-sec; masks should be commonplace still if the general public or the health agencies

16:23 Techrights-sec; had even a modicum of concern for other people;

16:39 schestowitz-TR; New: "I don't know if I want to do weed again. It did feel good, absolutely, but the thing is, I took maybe two or three hits (i wa

16:39 schestowitz-TR; sn't sure how many i needed) and I'm still feeling the effects a whole 24 hours later. That's probably not a good thing!" gemini://pa

↺ gemini://pa

16:39 schestowitz-TR; rk-city.club/~invis/phlog/039-wead.gmi

16:39 Techrights-sec; ack

16:39 Techrights-sec; THC is fat soluble and therefore somewhat persistent

16:39 Techrights-sec; it also has some interaction with hormones in a way which is not helpful

16:39 Techrights-sec; for males

16:45 schestowitz-TR; Go Back to Work (the Office), Folks, This Corona Thing is Sooooooo Over http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/22/coronavirus-deaths-in-spring/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/22/coronavirus-deaths-in-spring/

16:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Go Back to Work (the Office), Folks, This Corona Thing is Sooooooo Over

16:46 schestowitz-TR; don't worry, those are just numbers, not people

16:46 schestowitz-TR; just numbers

16:46 Techrights-sec; ack

16:50 schestowitz-TR; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6296360/

↺ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6296360/

16:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | Marijuana: interaction with the estrogen receptor - PubMed

16:50 schestowitz-TR; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34460075/

↺ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34460075/

16:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov | The effects of cannabis and cannabinoids on the endocrine system - PubMed

16:50 Techrights-sec; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6296360/

↺ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6296360/

16:50 Techrights-sec; https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34460075/

↺ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34460075/

16:54 schestowitz-TR; i lack statistical data

16:54 schestowitz-TR; though I sure some exists

16:54 schestowitz-TR; but pot smokers, to me, seem like people who die earl

16:54 schestowitz-TR; george carlin, carl sagan, many others

16:54 schestowitz-TR; you rarely hear stories like,

16:54 schestowitz-TR; "i was having fun smoking joints and here I am aged 90..."

16:54 schestowitz-TR; I reckon the probability of this is reduced by a lot

16:54 schestowitz-TR; last night I had a strange dream

16:54 schestowitz-TR; where snoop dogg (notorious weed smoker) commits suicide

16:54 schestowitz-TR; and someone tells me that

16:54 schestowitz-TR; when I woke up I realise it's not even so far-fetched

16:54 schestowitz-TR; many others rappers I listened to are already dead

16:54 schestowitz-TR; very many

16:55 Techrights-sec; well maybe it puts people more in tune with reality :/


5 PM, April 22

17:00 schestowitz-TR; (I never ever smoked weed; I see no reason to either as alcohol is cheap and works)

17:01 schestowitz-TR; alcohol here would cost about 2 pounds for 2-3 glasses of wine

17:01 schestowitz-TR; there are cheaper drinks, but they typically mean more calories too

17:01 schestowitz-TR; and brewing/distilling process I would not trust

17:01 schestowitz-TR; I rarely drink

17:01 schestowitz-TR; hallucinations and happiness are not the same thing

17:01 schestowitz-TR; both get you away from sadness, the first one more tempoirarily

17:01 schestowitz-TR; and at a< high cost

17:01 Techrights-sec; no and hallucination is not part of the "normal" weed experience, but the

17:01 Techrights-sec; modern varieties have magnitudes more psychoactive components than the old

17:01 Techrights-sec; ones

17:06 schestowitz-TR; slow news day again, rianne has just "cleaned my feeds" (that's how we say it)

17:06 schestowitz-TR; she thinks in terms like cleaning, she keeps the house nice and tidy

17:06 schestowitz-TR; (unlike some "local" girls who can be slobs)

17:06 schestowitz-TR; not sure if it's a cross-generational thing or cultural

17:06 schestowitz-TR; there's a new "starbucks" near us

17:06 schestowitz-TR; now we can taste some "Murica"

17:06 schestowitz-TR; I spoent ages at the coffee section, which was vast

17:06 schestowitz-TR; some brand sell the same things at like 10 times the ptice

17:06 schestowitz-TR; *price

17:06 schestowitz-TR; one "famous" coffee was 13 pounds for 1 KG

17:07 Techrights-sec; nice

17:07 Techrights-sec; sounds like great teamwork there

17:07 Techrights-sec; The markup at Starbucks is probably terrible; you can get the same coffee

17:07 Techrights-sec; beans for 1/10 the cost somewhere else in town; you're paying for

17:07 Techrights-sec; 1) having the coffee then and there; 2) the logo

17:07 Techrights-sec; Some cultures carry thermoses everywhere

17:10 schestowitz-TR; thermoses were every common when I was a kid

17:10 schestowitz-TR; then they mostly vanished

17:10 schestowitz-TR; as if they were a failed idea

17:10 schestowitz-TR; same for hot water bags

17:10 schestowitz-TR; grandparents used them a lot

17:10 schestowitz-TR; they are ery efficient, next to actually drinking a lot of hot brews

17:10 schestowitz-TR; which direcly passed the heat to the circulation

17:10 schestowitz-TR; of one's body

17:10 schestowitz-TR; atm (still in process) I brew 1 litre of "Arabia"

17:10 schestowitz-TR; 1.39 iirc, for 27 grams

17:10 schestowitz-TR; one soon per 1.5-2 litres*spoon

17:10 schestowitz-TR; the filter is about 3 pennies

17:10 schestowitz-TR; and lasts me about 7 litres

17:10 schestowitz-TR; so water and electricity became a noticable portion of the overall cost

17:11 Techrights-sec; you can have very good coffee in a thermos for 1/10 - 1/20 the price

17:11 Techrights-sec; correction (according to going prices) the savings would be at least 1/50

17:11 Techrights-sec; officially it is 7g - 7.5g per 1.25 dl depending on the roast

17:13 schestowitz-TR; we got the brewer at 80% at clas olson closedown sale

17:13 schestowitz-TR; I add some soy drink

17:13 schestowitz-TR; we try not to buy milk unless it's heavily discounted (80-90%+ off)

17:13 Techrights-sec; a percolator makes good coffee too

17:13 Techrights-sec; soy drink or irish cream ;)

17:15 schestowitz-TR; it is a percoilator

17:15 schestowitz-TR; we finished 2 or 3 bottles of irish cream this past month

17:15 schestowitz-TR; we only have wine left, need to replenish but aldi is full

17:15 schestowitz-TR; of covidiots

17:15 schestowitz-TR; 2,000 deaths a week is nothing anyway

17:15 schestowitz-TR; "man up, son!"

17:16 Techrights-sec; :)

17:16 Techrights-sec; one can boil coffee too: boil the water and throw in ther right amount

17:16 Techrights-sec; of grounds ad then take it off the heat and serve as soon as they grounds sink

17:16 Techrights-sec; it helps to shop a few days before the general payday, when most everyone

17:16 Techrights-sec; is too broke to buy anything

17:16 Techrights-sec; the stores can be quite empty then

17:16 schestowitz-TR; Friday noon/lunchtime was good enough. In most isles (~30 meters) it was only us

17:22 Techrights-sec; nice; there are /always/ too many people here regardless of when, it's just

17:22 Techrights-sec; slightly less crowded certain times over others never clear of crowds

17:22 schestowitz-TR; if you feel unwell after you came in close contact with peopole, this can lead to dtress

17:22 schestowitz-TR; worse, it can lead to illness

17:22 schestowitz-TR; if you feel unwell but you hardly left the house of dressed up like Subzero from Mortal

17:22 schestowitz-TR; Kombat, then you know it's probably nothing and carry on, maybbe pop a pill for

17:22 schestowitz-TR; pain reduction

17:23 Techrights-sec; yes

17:23 Techrights-sec; https://mortalkombat.fandom.com/wiki/Kuai_Liang

↺ https://mortalkombat.fandom.com/wiki/Kuai_Liang

17:23 Techrights-sec; remember to chew lots of garlic before and while shopping

17:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mortalkombat.fandom.com | Sub-Zero | Mortal Kombat Wiki | Fandom

17:24 schestowitz-TR; that is only effective if and when people got too close already

17:24 schestowitz-TR; we had bicycle helmets and 4 masks in total, but not too eccentric

17:28 Techrights-sec; https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210107-the-432-year-old-manual-on-social-distancing

↺ https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210107-the-432-year-old-manual-on-social-distancing

17:28 Techrights-sec; ack

17:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The 432-year-old manual on social distancing - BBC Future

17:29 schestowitz-TR; I think only days ago I read something to the effect of,

17:29 schestowitz-TR; the old wisdom is, when there's a plague, impose boundaries

17:29 schestowitz-TR; people learned later about washing hands

17:29 schestowitz-TR; they blamed gods and curses because they knew nothing about micro-organism

17:29 schestowitz-TR; not visible at the time

17:29 schestowitz-TR; but now we know better. we see the thing, we have detailed statistics, but

17:29 schestowitz-TR; even the very basics we decline to do

17:29 schestowitz-TR; this is why I use (borrow, steal) the word "covidiot"

17:29 schestowitz-TR; Covid Internet of Things

17:29 schestowitz-TR; it passes through 5g or something...

17:29 schestowitz-TR; (don't say it in Twitter; kaniini got suspended from Twitter for making a joke about this)

17:29 schestowitz-TR; Twitter has the sense of humour of a dry potato lik Elon

17:29 schestowitz-TR; me opens the two URLs

17:31 schestowitz-TR; lol billBC gives me BBC headline, than blank page pretty much

17:31 schestowitz-TR; a

17:31 schestowitz-TR; browser this bloated is not bloated enough

17:31 schestowitz-TR; I also had to click OK like 30 times

17:31 schestowitz-TR; so many domains involved in one page

17:31 Techrights-sec; :/

17:31 Techrights-sec; twitter, as we all realize, is about mass manipuation of opinion

17:31 Techrights-sec; ack

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [05:32] <leah> schestowitz-TR: https://mas.to/@libreleah/108173793591080886

↺ https://mas.to/@libreleah/108173793591080886

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [05:32] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Leah Rowe: "Twitter is blocking me from posting a link to my " - mas.to

17:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Leah Rowe: "Twitter is blocking me from posting a link to my " - mas.to

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [05:32] <leah> what's that thing you were saying before about "social control media"?

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [05:32] <leah> i forgot. could you tell me again?

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [05:32] <leah> fuck twitter

17:32 schestowitz-TR; [06:23] <schestowitz-TR> leah: so stop being harmful :-D

17:33 Techrights-sec; :(

17:33 Techrights-sec; I have scripts blocked so I did not notice that crap

17:38 schestowitz-TR; https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/3/3c/Subzero-mk2-fix.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/66?cb=20171230230014

↺ https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/mkwikia/images/3/3c/Subzero-mk2-fix.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/66?cb=20171230230014

17:38 schestowitz-TR; this is the original one

17:38 schestowitz-TR; there were two of this character, the other one in yellow

17:38 schestowitz-TR; like ken and ryu in SF2 being the same except in apperance

17:38 schestowitz-TR; JP/US

17:38 schestowitz-TR; the image shown to the right seems like an "enhanced" version or concept

17:38 schestowitz-TR; with lots of ornaments added

17:38 Techrights-sec; ack

17:38 schestowitz-TR; I don't need sharp objects on me

17:38 schestowitz-TR; they would actually increase risk, to me also

17:40 Techrights-sec; electicirty maybe? portable tesla coil?

17:44 schestowitz-TR; here is the thing

17:44 schestowitz-TR; iirc, now we have about 2 million tests per week

17:44 schestowitz-TR; and 200,000 cases

17:44 schestowitz-TR; that's 1:10 ratio

17:44 schestowitz-TR; like I pointed out the other day, when it's 1:2 or 1:3 it means your local authorities

17:44 schestowitz-TR; just test to affirm what is almost known already

17:44 schestowitz-TR; rather than properly isolating people

17:44 schestowitz-TR; in workplace, sick leave exists NOT as a goodwill to workers

17:44 schestowitz-TR; it's ABOUT THE EMPLOYER

17:44 schestowitz-TR; They don't want you to infect other workers

17:44 schestowitz-TR; "Doctor's note" is a formality to make misuse harder

17:44 schestowitz-TR; before entering Tesco I reminded rianne the obvious

17:44 schestowitz-TR; about the prevalence of it

17:44 schestowitz-TR; and said masks are not that important

17:44 schestowitz-TR; if you can keep people far away

17:44 schestowitz-TR; the masks are not that effective when you suck in air through them

17:45 schestowitz-TR; I'm aboout 95KG and would likely not take COVID like a teenager

17:45 schestowitz-TR; rianne's sister and my brother did have symptoms

17:45 Techrights-sec; ack

17:45 Techrights-sec; Not sure. Even with the masks the stores still stink of people. If the

17:45 Techrights-sec; stench spreads, presumably so do the pathogens

17:45 Techrights-sec; ack

17:47 schestowitz-TR; We still wash all the iterms individually

17:47 schestowitz-TR; hard to believe lockdowns staretd 25 months ago

17:47 schestowitz-TR; 30 days

17:48 schestowitz-TR; times 25

17:48 schestowitz-TR; the solution seems to be surrender

17:48 schestowitz-TR; as a "balance" between "economy" (whose?) and safety

17:48 schestowitz-TR; I should soon do some 2020/21/22 comparisons of people in hospital in summer

17:48 schestowitz-TR; it's May soon

17:48 Techrights-sec; ack

17:53 Techrights-sec; May First there will be lots of crowds and parties and presumably lots of

17:53 Techrights-sec; hospitalizations in the following weeks

17:54 schestowitz-TR; as crowd sizes double, passage rates more than double, but the relationship depends on the nature of interactions

17:54 schestowitz-TR; and incubation, vaccination, infection potency..

17:55 Techrights-sec; ack


6 PM, April 22

18:16 schestowitz-TR; hang on

18:16 schestowitz-TR; just found something else to blog about

18:16 schestowitz-TR; eye -opening

18:16 schestowitz-TR; Today, UK Count of Deaths With COVID-19 (in the Death Certificate) Officially Rose Above 190,000, But 3,593 More People Have Died Sin

18:16 schestowitz-TR; ce http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/22/190000-covid-death-certificates/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/22/190000-covid-death-certificates/

18:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Today, UK Count of Deaths With COVID-19 (in the Death Certificate) Officially Rose Above 190,000, But 3,593 More People Have Died Since

18:19 schestowitz-TR; even though all these blog posts focus on the uk (i spent a lot of time for years tracking the data, so

18:19 schestowitz-TR; i understand lapses in it; they still cannot fake death tolls)

18:19 schestowitz-TR; the underlying blueprint is liekly shares across nations and regimes

18:19 schestowitz-TR; just like their neoliberal policies, inc. privatisation

18:19 schestowitz-TR; *shared

18:24 schestowitz-TR; I don't supose Falko undmerstands that by outsourcing howtoforge to clownflare

18:24 schestowitz-TR; he essentially KILLED all the RSS feeds

18:24 schestowitz-TR; I cannot find or do not have contact details for him

18:24 schestowitz-TR; no site can survive based on social control media presence or "bookmarks"

18:24 schestowitz-TR; not for long anyway


7 PM, April 22

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19:16 schestowitz-TR; I am rather sure howtoforge changed quite a few things over the years based on the way

19:16 schestowitz-TR; the site is being managed

19:16 schestowitz-TR; but their howtos are still very detailed and generally good

19:16 schestowitz-TR; but the RSS feed has been dead this year

19:16 schestowitz-TR; and I cannot even access articles without running some dodgy JS

19:16 schestowitz-TR; From the clowns

19:19 Techrights-sec; HowToForge definitely has something very broken about their web "pages"

19:20 schestowitz-TR; is it just me?

19:20 schestowitz-TR; i assume it's not geo-specific

19:20 schestowitz-TR; and that it extends to all objects, even xml/atom

19:20 schestowitz-TR; what a bunch of total idiots!

19:20 schestowitz-TR; they will kill/doom the site

19:21 Techrights-sec; not all their links work on the first few tries :/

19:21 Techrights-sec; Their RSS feed is there and works, but as mentioned not all their links

19:21 Techrights-sec; work on the first few tries so that may be a factor interfering with

19:21 Techrights-sec; the feeds, too, not just the howtos

19:22 schestowitz-TR; try from quiterss

19:22 schestowitz-TR; there is a mitm

19:22 schestowitz-TR; called clownflare

19:22 schestowitz-TR; and it imposes JS on me

19:22 schestowitz-TR; always

19:22 schestowitz-TR; all requests

19:39 Techrights-sec; works from here in QuiteRSS


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