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beginning of new day, March 22

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9 AM, March 22

09:42 schestowitz-TR; quick note to self:

09:42 schestowitz-TR; one upside of working on documents over the nwtwork is,

09:42 schestowitz-TR; you effectively keep two copies

09:42 schestowitz-TR; as in the case of kate,

09:42 schestowitz-TR; if the remote copy/server has issues, I can save locally

09:42 schestowitz-TR; and if there is damage locally

09:42 schestowitz-TR; the copy is remote anyway

09:42 schestowitz-TR; so in effect I already have a two-side redundancy for important documents and working

09:42 schestowitz-TR; files, which is what I did this morning

09:42 schestowitz-TR; the main pain will be thunbderbird

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10 AM, March 22

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11 AM, March 22

11:04 schestowitz-TR; working my way through 5 epo docs

11:04 schestowitz-TR; how important do you think it is to throw news picks into the social irc channel?

11:04 schestowitz-TR; I still do it on occasions, but daily links matter a lot more

11:04 schestowitz-TR; so I've shaved off a lot of time that way

11:07 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.eu/DeathSkry/status/1506186212142370817#m

↺ https://nitter.eu/DeathSkry/status/1506186212142370817#m

11:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | Deathskry (@DeathSkry): "techrights.org/2010/04/11/xb" | nitter

11:23 Techrights-sec; ack

11:23 Techrights-sec; It depends on the topic of the links themselves. Maybe some should go there

11:23 Techrights-sec; on occasion.

11:23 Techrights-sec; It is important to keep -social active so as to be able to keep the main

11:23 Techrights-sec; channel on topic

11:23 schestowitz-TR; the main channel has been a lotr more active lately

11:23 schestowitz-TR; so oftentimes I don't keep an eye on it, except layer in passing

11:23 schestowitz-TR; *later

11:34 Techrights-sec; Maybe just check on it occassionally when you hppen to post a link there?

11:35 schestowitz-TR; I try to focus mainly on analysing and writing

11:35 schestowitz-TR; EPO is number 1 numbeer 2 and numbe3 priority at the moment

11:35 schestowitz-TR; I also managed to use a time windsows in the small hours to migrate all

11:35 schestowitz-TR; essential files to a disk that I trust

11:35 schestowitz-TR; which makes me feel very happy and confident

11:37 Techrights-sec; excellent

11:37 Techrights-sec; I hope none were silently corrupted while on the old drive

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I've just checked netslit.de

11:37 schestowitz-TR; it says average people (#) on the irc network is 66

11:37 schestowitz-TR; peakingn at 77

11:37 schestowitz-TR; I've just checked netslit.de

11:37 schestowitz-TR; it says average people (#) on the irc network is 66

11:37 schestowitz-TR; peakingn at 77

11:37 Techrights-sec; For TR?

11:39 schestowitz-TR; yes, the whole network

11:39 schestowitz-TR; regarding data loss, for about a month already, maybe even 2 months

11:39 schestowitz-TR; since we installed debian 11 for gemini

11:39 schestowitz-TR; I've seen those errors and successful correction

11:39 schestowitz-TR; I assume it reattempts the wroites and uses some other slots

11:39 schestowitz-TR; I've not seen evidence of data corruption

11:39 schestowitz-TR; such as application crashes( binary) or corrupt files being opened

11:42 schestowitz-TR; tbh, i've quite enjoyed seeing the bonfire or whatever that is video hosting services

11:42 schestowitz-TR; odysee might have a few years left in it

11:42 schestowitz-TR; it's cheaper to operate

11:42 schestowitz-TR; fsf moved from hosting its own with mediagoblin

11:42 schestowitz-TR; they now use peertube

11:54 Techrights-sec; obviously self-hosting is best but if they outsource, it should only be to a

11:54 Techrights-sec; service that 1) is consistent with software freedom and 2) actually saves both

11:54 Techrights-sec; effort and money

11:55 schestowitz-TR; the pseudo 'free' hosting might be OK... for disposable stuff. But many people are made to convince themselves that losing their work, data etc. is not a big dead anyway, as they were not in control of the decision on this matter


noon, March 22

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12:21 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure there are really any legitimate use-cases for the pseudofree

12:21 Techrights-sec; services, especially if the goal is to be promoting freedom. I was thinking

12:21 Techrights-sec; more about outsourced services which cost money, but gain that would depend

12:21 Techrights-sec; on them actually saving both time, effort, and money in contrast to self-hosting

12:21 Techrights-sec; In practice, I expecti such a situation would be hard to impossible to find.

12:22 schestowitz-TR; maybe we can articulate these things to make an article, not sure...

12:22 schestowitz-TR; can you take a look at the OSI draft to say if it's in good taste?

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12:37 Techrights-sec; looking

12:37 Techrights-sec; more context is needed about the change of priorities / agendas that the new

12:37 Techrights-sec; board members will usher in

12:37 Techrights-sec; A small amount of overlap between articles doesn't hurt.

12:37 schestowitz-TR; ok

12:37 schestowitz-TR; I will add links


1 PM, March 22

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13:30 Techrights-sec; Links are best when wrapped in a sentence or two, so that there is meaning enough for people to see the context and know

13:30 Techrights-sec; what they will get when / if they click

13:30 Techrights-sec; on a link. THere are too many links on any given page for people to click them

13:30 Techrights-sec; randomly, especially on a CMS.

13:32 schestowitz-TR; draft

13:32 schestowitz-TR; The brevity of posts this week is mostly duie to lack of time

13:32 schestowitz-TR; lots of epo material

13:32 schestowitz-TR; I may get back to the OSI thing later on, with a lot more text

13:32 schestowitz-TR; notice that none of the media ever covers these

13:32 schestowitz-TR; things anymore

13:32 schestowitz-TR; 15 years ago you would expect many news sites

13:32 schestowitz-TR; to say something

13:32 schestowitz-TR; draft

13:32 schestowitz-TR; The brevity of posts this week is mostly duie to lack of time

13:32 schestowitz-TR; lots of epo material

13:32 schestowitz-TR; I may get back to the OSI thing later on, with a lot more text

13:32 schestowitz-TR; notice that none of the media ever covers these

13:32 schestowitz-TR; things anymore

13:32 schestowitz-TR; 15 years ago you would expect many news sites

13:32 schestowitz-TR; to say something

13:38 Techrights-sec; yes, it is newsworthy but the sites don't cover much of anything newsworthy

13:38 Techrights-sec; any more just what they are sponsored to cover. :/

13:38 schestowitz-TR; physical newspaper and magazines barely survived. Revenue streams like classifieds gone, there's not this bubble of "targeted advertising"

13:39 schestowitz-TR; and since the bubble burst some years ago

13:39 schestowitz-TR; (sites unable to convert visitors into sufficient money)

13:39 schestowitz-TR; the activity of journalism mostly stopped

13:39 schestowitz-TR; so the gap gets filled with PR agencies and social control media

13:40 schestowitz-TR; which are not necessarily two different things


2 PM, March 22

14:55 Techrights-sec; physical newspapers are more or less gone, at this point.

14:55 Techrights-sec; Most small, independent ones have been bought out and either shut down or

14:55 Techrights-sec; gutted and devoid of actual local news and instead used as a medium for

14:55 Techrights-sec; promulgating carious corporate or political agendas within specific geographic

14:55 Techrights-sec; areas.


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7 PM, March 22

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19:54 Techrights-sec; misinformation == by accident; disinformation == spread on purpose

19:54 schestowitz-TR; ota

19:54 schestowitz-TR; United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Hal

19:54 schestowitz-TR; f a Million Infected Per Week http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/

↺ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/22/united-kingdom-covid/

19:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive United Kingdom: COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Highest Number in a Month, Deaths Highest in 1.5 Months, and More Than Half a Million Infected Per Week

19:54 schestowitz-TR; draft

19:58 schestowitz-TR; those that are spreading FUD are probably knowingly spreading disinformation

19:58 schestowitz-TR; those falling for the FUD are probably unknowingly spreading misinformation

19:58 Techrights-sec; those that are spreading FUD are probably knowingly spreading disinformation

19:58 Techrights-sec; those falling for the FUD are probably unknowingly spreading misinformation


8 PM, March 22

20:01 schestowitz-TR; I thogut my text made that point clear, inter alia

20:01 schestowitz-TR; but let me add s aummary to clarify from the outset


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