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02:01 schestowitz-TR2; restarting apache
02:01 schestowitz-TR2; I am starting to wonder if server connectivity hiccupts we've had for days now (
02:01 schestowitz-TR2; DEC's fault, I believe) are to blame for all this
02:01 schestowitz-TR2; as this one was preceded by one such incident
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02:51 schestowitz-TR2; new unproven theory: malformed packets caused by recent datacentre
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; switching etc. could be confusing apache
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; in due course I might be able to prove it
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; rianne checked the site while I was asleep
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; afaik, no issues for 4 hours
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; the latest such issue coincided with a netwoprk issue
02:51 schestowitz-TR2; you can see the network issues in the IRC logs
03:34 Techrights-sec; there was one at 23:10 UTC or there about
03:34 Techrights-sec; that one required restarting httpd too
03:34 schestowitz-TR2; great, thanks for that. I was sleeping deeply at that time
03:34 Techrights-sec; no problem
03:36 Techrights-sec; no problem, I missed the last one because I was *very* slow to recognize the
03:36 Techrights-sec; alert
03:36 schestowitz-TR2; judging by IRC JOINS and QUITS or timeouts, at 11-12 there was no network issue for IRC
03:37 Techrights-sec; SSH worked but HTTP was unresponsive. I did not check the error logs.
03:38 schestowitz-TR2; today, being weekend and not food shopping day I plan to look into pi backups and try to figure out the apache issue also, as it seems to not just "go away"...
03:42 Techrights-sec; The error logs were quiet for those few minutes I see.
03:42 Techrights-sec; An update of TR would help, even if not a full OS migration.
03:49 schestowitz-TR2; re apache, I was hoping intervals would give a clue as to the cause, but
03:49 schestowitz-TR2; so far no causality observed
03:53 Techrights-sec; # httpd -v
03:54 Techrights-sec; xxxxx :(
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; Just remember that the stack is closely connected, so some version of wordpress g
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; oes with certain mariadb, php, apache or similar
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; which generally complicated past attempts to migrate this to another OS
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; if we move to another OS, maybe best to also change CMS at the same time
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; or maybe not
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; but with 15+ yeard of work, we must test and think carefully
03:56 schestowitz-TR2; or else ... Internet rot
03:57 schestowitz-TR2; in schestowitz.com I still have pages from 2-+ years ago that are sttaic
03:57 schestowitz-TR2; those are very easy to 'maintain'
03:57 schestowitz-TR2; 20+
03:58 Techrights-sec; static is a very good option for many situations
04:00 schestowitz-TR2; i will publish andy's part 2 in one hour (5am)
04:00 schestowitz-TR2; I envision all the wordpress stauff becoming static at some point
04:00 schestowitz-TR2; and we might then try some other workflows
04:00 schestowitz-TR2; best thing is to phase them in, gradually
04:00 Techrights-sec; ACK
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05:25 schestowitz-TR2; zoobab is doing hard work on UPC matters
05:25 schestowitz-TR2; if you have contacts with a local MEPs, then there's nothing to
05:25 schestowitz-TR2; lose by picking up the phone and explaining to him/her the situation
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; at the very least they can join existing motions to impede the
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; thing
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; Being German in the UK, there's less leverage I have over politicians
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; here and I have little in terms of contact. A former Pirate Party leader,
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; who lives near me, vanished into obscurity
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; and judging by how things playd out politically, I very much doubt
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; he wishes to put his RT interviews in the CV
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; EPO and staff reps have been quiet so far this year
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; Team UPC is all noise, without any media to call them out
05:26 schestowitz-TR2; on their total BS
05:56 schestowitz; "Final Gazette dissolved via voluntary strike-off" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12648511/filing-history
05:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | E2EOPS PRESS LIMITED filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK
05:56 schestowitz; that explains what happened, you know who that is...
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11:41 schestowitz-TR2; apache has, afaik, been running since around 1am
11:41 schestowitz-TR2; until you stepped in at some point
11:41 schestowitz-TR2; I took a very long nap and this session was restarted for chat, not sure if
11:41 schestowitz-TR2; I missed anything of importance
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11:45 schestowitz-TR2; /s//until/unless/
11:52 Techrights-sec; Yes, apache was down as ~ 23:10 yesterday, ,the last time I restarted it.
11:52 Techrights-sec; This window cleared when I restarted the system for key updates to take effect.
11:52 Techrights-sec; Nothing of importance was missed, that was the only message so far.
11:53 schestowitz-TR2; excellent! So about 10-11 hours since last apache incident
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11:55 Techrights-sec; yes, and I think my monitoring program here works ok finally
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13:12 TechrightsBN; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.75
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13:32 schestowitz-TR2; very strange
13:32 schestowitz-TR2; connection refused
13:33 schestowitz-TR2; ah, ok, kaniin is rebooting
13:33 schestowitz-TR2; lately the network was a bit wonky
13:33 schestowitz-TR2; a reboot of networkk might help
13:33 schestowitz-TR2; I now know why network was bad lately
13:33 schestowitz-TR2; hang on, will share here
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13:33 Techrights-sec; not sure about cause
13:33 Techrights-sec; # ps -p $(pgrep -d , httpd) -o user,pid,start,args| head -n 3
13:33 Techrights-sec; -bash: head: command not found
13:33 Techrights-sec; -bash: /bin/pgrep: Input/output error
13:33 Techrights-sec; -bash: /bin/ps: Input/output error
13:34 Techrights-sec; ack
13:35 schestowitz; [13:02] <schestowitz> hi, irc tuxmachines and techrights are rejecting connections, so not sure what the root cause is
13:35 schestowitz; [13:03] <xyz> oh
13:35 schestowitz; [13:03] <xyz> fuck
13:35 schestowitz; [13:03] <xyz> i forgot to pause the VMs when i rebooted the internal switch
13:35 schestowitz; [13:03] <xyz> this is why i should wait to do things until i've had my coffee
13:35 schestowitz; [13:03] <xyz> rebooted
13:35 schestowitz; [13:05] <schestowitz> thanks, I'll try to restore things when ssh reopens
13:35 schestowitz; [13:12] <xyz> cool
13:35 schestowitz; [13:12] <xyz> finally fixed the issue where the old centos7 container does not wanna boot without being handheld
13:35 schestowitz; [13:16] <schestowitz> excellent, I did notice some network hiccups lately, so maybe a work on the switch can change that
13:35 schestowitz; [13:16] <xyz> oh, that was because of xxxxxx CALTRANS
13:35 schestowitz; [13:17] <xyz> they nicked our fiber recently, and so half of our ring is collapsed
13:35 schestowitz; [13:17] <xyz> something something fiber seeking backhoe meme
13:35 schestowitz; [13:17] <schestowitz> oh, I see, so at least it's a known issue with cause
13:35 schestowitz; [13:19] <xyz> the restart was because i needed to license a 100g port
13:35 schestowitz; [13:20] <xyz> for the new NAS box
13:35 schestowitz; [13:20] <xyz> yes, *license*
13:35 schestowitz; [13:20] <schestowitz> cash cows
13:35 schestowitz; [13:20] <schestowitz> artificial scarcity
13:35 schestowitz; [13:20] <xyz> xxxx just puts a shitload of 100g ports on a switch now and makes you pay for them as you need them
13:36 schestowitz; [13:20] <xyz> i have like 6 of them on this switch
13:36 schestowitz; [13:20] <xyz> only 2 are licensed now
13:36 schestowitz; [13:21] <xyz> and by "license" i mean "use a keygen"
13:36 schestowitz; [13:21] <xyz> as if i am paying xxxxxx for a fucking port i already own
13:36 schestowitz; [13:21] <schestowitz> like john deeere tractors
13:36 schestowitz; [13:22] <xyz> but, you did not hear xxxxxxxxx :)
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14:41 schestowitz-TR2; ok to publish part 3 of farnell tonight or too fast/early?
14:41 Techrights-sec; They're really good but one per day at most, would be my recommendation.
14:42 Techrights-sec; It's ok to buffer.
14:42 schestowitz-TR2; ack
14:42 schestowitz-TR2; I will catch up with things, do you intend to look into logging systemd unit or s
14:42 schestowitz-TR2; hould i have a poke iunstead?
14:42 Techrights-sec; I can look but have to set up something here to experiment with.
14:43 schestowitz-TR2; the past few days everything ran OK, right now ipfs hoards upload capacity, but I am OK with it if that improves access to CIDs
14:44 schestowitz-TR2; so I think soon I will make an image/copy of the microSD card, in case another recovery becomes necessary
14:44 schestowitz-TR2; we might also order another pi for ipsec, but I need to think how else it would be used
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14:48 Techrights-sec; They're versatile, as you see, and all-around general purpose computers even
14:48 Techrights-sec; if not monstrously overpowered. The 4B is probably the most useful model for
14:48 Techrights-sec; that, I'm not sure of availability but it should be far easier to get one within
14:48 Techrights-sec; the UK than in Europe.
14:48 Techrights-sec; ^s/Europe/EU/
14:51 schestowitz-TR2; I have put in drafts the upcoming (stull uploading video) article and tomorr's fi
14:51 schestowitz-TR2; nale, in case you want to read "ahead" and maybe report typos or factual mistkaes
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15:38 Techrights-sec; It occurs to me that if agate runs with --log-ip added, then systemd
15:38 Techrights-sec; will save the hostnames of visitors in the system logs and it will be
15:38 Techrights-sec; very difficult to purge them. That is not what we want I think, so the
15:38 Techrights-sec; tcpdump approach will probably have to be used since it allows more ephemeral
15:38 Techrights-sec; data.
15:38 schestowitz-TR2; whilst at it, we might as well anonymise all the data completely, though that helped count unique IPs etc.
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15:51 Techrights-sec; The count could be kept in memory and lost when the process ends, and only peridi
15:51 Techrights-sec; cally write to the file. That would require a little rearrangment of the
15:51 Techrights-sec; work flow from what it is now.
15:52 schestowitz-TR2; we can give that a go as that would be an 'upgrade' of sorts, it all started quick and dirty, but still a decent way for me to know what goes on in the capsule. the past few days I just threw junk lines at it to prevent the program complaining, so we generally don't know anything about access... though we know it was available
15:53 schestowitz-TR2; btw, no apache issues sincee 1am... fingers crosed
15:53 schestowitz-TR2; *crossed
16:03 Techrights-sec; ack
16:03 Techrights-sec; I'll get the current workflow going first.
16:04 schestowitz-TR2; excellent, thank you
16:04 schestowitz-TR2; I will do my best to keep publishing things at the pacee we once had
16:04 schestowitz-TR2; about 10 per day
16:04 schestowitz-TR2; tomorrow I have to do lots of responding to UPPC lies
16:05 Techrights-sec; Yes UPC rests only on lies.
16:05 Techrights-sec; well maybe also some law breaking too, but mostly lies.
16:05 schestowitz-TR2; the lies are designed to make the law-breaking seem OK
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16:21 Techrights-sec; still working on solving the buffering proble with the shell redirections
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17:28 Techrights-sec; check ~gemini/bin/agate-tcpdump-logger.s*
17:28 Techrights-sec; the one goes in /etc/systemd/system/ and the other in /usr/local/sbin/
17:28 Techrights-sec; also, ~/bin/agate-3.2.1 looks like it is not needed. It takes up a lot of
17:28 Techrights-sec; space. Ok to delete it?
17:29 schestowitz-TR2; i am going to look into installing [sic] the new files. if the agate version above is an old binary I suppose it's somewhere "on the Web" and we don't need a copy of it
17:30 schestowitz-TR2; i forgot to "ota"... I was recording 30+ mins on UPC and got a little distracted by ytallk
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; ---
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; it looks like you have aced it
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; i think you have privs to check status
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; i am testing to see what the anoned file looks like within the context of the ddo
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; s protection shell script
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; ok, i see now
17:41 schestowitz-TR2; it lists everything as the ip address of the pi, instead of requestor's ip
17:43 Techrights-sec; ok
17:43 Techrights-sec; ack, will check
17:44 schestowitz-TR2; but I'm super-happy knowing that it's likely the "export" script which runs at midnight might in fact get something to show, if it does not already
17:44 schestowitz-TR2; I treated the stats page as not important as we dealt with more urgent thing
17:44 schestowitz-TR2; *things
17:45 schestowitz-TR2; apachtop says server has done avg of 6mb/sec since the reboot
17:45 Techrights-sec; yep wrong column
17:45 Techrights-sec; fixing...
17:57 Techrights-sec; progress, but need to improve stopping the service
17:57 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, it already looks encouraging, as if there are about 10,000 page requests a day in gemini after a week of blindness.
18:04 Techrights-sec; ok it stops cleanly now too
18:04 Techrights-sec; updated files in ~gemini/bin
18:04 Techrights-sec; systemctl daemon-reload after updating the unit file before restarting the
18:04 Techrights-sec; service
18:04 Techrights-sec; systemd is a real PITA
18:06 schestowitz-TR2; depl;ying , so to speak...
18:06 schestowitz-TR2; now it works correctly, i have it on tail -f
18:06 schestowitz-TR2; watching it interqactively like this helps you appreciate how much it is being ac
18:06 schestowitz-TR2; cessed
18:07 Techrights-sec; the old one will leave an unattended tcpdump process running,
18:07 Techrights-sec; it needs to be killed manually:
18:07 Techrights-sec; pgrep -o tcpdump
18:07 Techrights-sec; ^pkill
18:08 Techrights-sec; if it is working correctly, should the go into Git?
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; yes, and I've just killed the spare process
18:21 Techrights-sec; if it is working then the old ones can be turned off and deleted
18:22 schestowitz-TR2; I've not been keeping track of the names much, I saw there's an alias, but I agree to reduce confusion it helps to remove stale ones. we can safely assume whatever is in git is "latest"
18:24 Techrights-sec; the old ones can be removed from Git to now
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19:33 Techrights-sec; /etc/systemd/system/agate-tcpdumper.service can probably be disabled and
19:33 Techrights-sec; removed
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19:34 schestowitz-TR2; stopped and siabled now
19:34 Techrights-sec; thanks
19:40 Techrights-sec; then remove /etc/systemd/system/agate-tcpdumper.service too and there will be
19:40 Techrights-sec; less confusion in the future
19:46 Techrights-sec; The term "Alternative Facts" is a propaganda term used in place of what they
19:46 Techrights-sec; really are : fantasy or lies
19:47 schestowitz-TR2; yes, I've just deleted the file from the services, I guess it's still somewhere, but not that it should caused confusion... it has been almost a dat a day without apahe issues, so I will take a nap while the video is being encoded
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