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00:34 schestowitz-TR; In case it is an FS thing, I've checkeded the video dir for zero-size files and nothing there
00:34 schestowitz-TR; now I test TM backups on TR
00:34 schestowitz-TR; the one for apr 19 returned an error, 16 also, 17 OK, 15 not OK (gunzip fails), 13, 14, 20 also
00:34 schestowitz-TR; damaged
00:34 schestowitz-TR; "invalid compressed data--format violated"
00:34 schestowitz-TR; on TM:/home/boycottn I can gunzip the fole OK
00:34 schestowitz-TR; I am now testing TR wordpress backup
00:34 schestowitz-TR; 20/04 fails, (same error as for TM gunzip), 19/04 fails also, 18/04 works OK, 8gb not compressed,
00:34 schestowitz-TR; 17 fails, 16 fails, 15 fails, 14 (oldest) fdails also
00:34 schestowitz-TR; so of all the backups only 18-04 iis usable for TR wordpress, I checked head and tail of the dump too
00:40 schestowitz-TR; in /var/log/messages I see nothing of interest. with wiki db dump, gunzip ok with 20-04,19-04, NOT 18-04,
00:40 schestowitz-TR; 17 through 14-04 are all OK. AFAIK, we never properly tested any of the backup on this new server until
00:40 schestowitz-TR; this month, so maybe gzip running so fast on many cores leads to it? I'm only guessing. Best check/safe
00:40 schestowitz-TR; than be sorry later.
00:45 schestowitz-TR; drupaldatabase is a lot smaller, 14,18, and 20 fail to gunzip, the rest are OK
01:03 schestowitz-TR; I've tested the hypothesis this is an old issue, undetected until now
01:03 schestowitz-TR; I tried to uncopmpress 5 files (one 2022, 2 2021, 2 from 2020) and they all worked fine
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09:38 Techrights-sec; we do have the temporary machine to test backups on for a few more days
09:38 Techrights-sec; whois $(host itwire.com 2>&1 | awk '/address/ {print $4; exit}') | grep "^Org"
09:38 Techrights-sec; :(
09:38 Techrights-sec; AFAIK a recent change
09:38 Techrights-sec; ack
09:38 schestowitz-TR; woke up afteer belated easter rest
09:38 schestowitz-TR; will catch up here shortly
09:38 schestowitz-TR; want to post some links, catch up with irc, and gemini first
09:42 schestowitz-TR; OK, I am ready now
09:42 schestowitz-TR; checking itwire
09:42 schestowitz-TR; I don't have whois installed and prefer to minimise number of new packages
09:42 schestowitz-TR; what does the output show?
09:42 schestowitz-TR; Also:
09:42 schestowitz-TR; 1) did you see the gemni ling about long covid and taste
09:42 schestowitz-TR; 2) i suspect the gif meme issue might be a coincidence or it could be anyone, but I assured myself it's a sole casee
09:42 schestowitz-TR; 3) after (2) I decided to revisit a week-old issue we forgot about with gunzip, I reckon the dumps are fine,
09:42 schestowitz-TR; compressing them is the issue
09:46 Techrights-sec; try here, it's installed
09:46 Techrights-sec; 1) not yet
09:46 Techrights-sec; 2) ??
09:46 Techrights-sec; 3) strange that gzip is not reliable
09:50 Techrights-sec; port xxxxxxx
09:50 Techrights-sec; no, but I can guess at what it says about symptoms
09:50 Techrights-sec; https://www.nhsinform.scot/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/signs-and-symptoms/long-covid-loss-of-smell-or-taste/
09:50 Techrights-sec; :/
09:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nhsinform.scot | Long COVID: Loss of smell or taste | Long-term effects of COVID-19
09:54 Techrights-sec; https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0265686
09:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-journals.plos.org | Persisting olfactory dysfunction in post-COVID-19 is associated with gustatory impairment: Results from chemosensitive testing eight months after the acute infection
09:56 schestowitz-TR; "The horrible virus has done my tastebuds in. This is *deeply* annoying and frustrating for me. If I try and eat meat or some forms
09:56 schestowitz-TR; of citrus then it tastes of cigarettes." gemini://bad-gateway.smol.pub/20220420
09:56 schestowitz-TR; I'm connected to the server (test), I see it's public_html only, was about to test gunzip on older backups
09:56 schestowitz-TR; I choose to think that the gif file becoming empty was an accident, at worse vandalism, at worst 'inside job' (LF)
09:56 schestowitz-TR; but the gunzip think seems to be older, it's just that we noticed it thanks [sic] to the TM incident
09:56 schestowitz-TR; and last night I realised it was also affecting TR backups
10:00 schestowitz-TR; testing the 3 TR backups from last night with gunzip, just out of curiousity
10:00 schestowitz-TR; tbh, if one in two works OK, then we might be 'safe', but this is not the way it shoudld work
10:01 schestowitz-TR; and I saw no system level warnings that should suggest file system level problems
10:01 schestowitz-TR; OK, wordpress dump from this morning works OK
10:01 schestowitz-TR; i did head and tail on it too
10:01 schestowitz-TR; it's 7.8gb
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10:01 schestowitz-TR; this morning's drupal DB is 'bad' (rather, the gz file)
10:01 schestowitz-TR; wiki is OK
10:01 schestowitz-TR; wiki OK for 2 mornings in a row now, 1.1gb uncompressed
10:01 Techrights-sec; ack
10:01 Techrights-sec; reading gemini link atm
10:01 Techrights-sec; yes I've not unpacked much more than that
10:01 Techrights-sec; I'm doing backups again atm and will test the compression in about 20 to 30
10:01 Techrights-sec; minutes
10:01 Techrights-sec; troubling
10:01 Techrights-sec; could a disk be going bad?
10:02 schestowitz-TR; that's what I'd like to know
10:02 schestowitz-TR; but other than that meme file becoming zero sized with system datastamp not changed
10:02 schestowitz-TR; I did not notice any other problem
10:02 schestowitz-TR; also, all the video checksums are always OK
10:11 schestowitz-TR; TM and TR are on the same physical host
10:11 schestowitz-TR; On TM, last night I attempted to gunzip ther single singhly dump
10:11 schestowitz-TR; it waent OK and one minute ago I did this morning's dump too. it went OK.
10:11 schestowitz-TR; I'm willing to not write anything for a while just to ensure we test our backups and don't lose site files
10:11 schestowitz-TR; other than the meme mystery I could not see any other issue, but you might want to run a seatch for zero-sized files
10:11 schestowitz-TR; not sure if awk is needed, I think bash and fnd can do
10:22 Techrights-sec; find can do it
10:22 Techrights-sec; find /path/ -type f -size 0c -print
10:23 schestowitz-TR; do you want to run that or should I?
10:23 schestowitz-TR; Like I said, assuming vandalism, even echo '' > file
10:23 schestowitz-TR; the time stamp on that empty file would be changed
10:24 Techrights-sec; which path?
10:24 Techrights-sec; yes in most, but not all, cases
10:25 schestowitz-TR; let's try the whole user ~
10:25 schestowitz-TR; see if we can find a pattern of interest
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10:29 Techrights-sec; ok I will run it, I suppost ionice should be used with it
10:29 Techrights-sec; see /tmp/find.log
10:29 schestowitz-TR; thanks, looking....
10:38 schestowitz-TR; i
10:38 schestowitz-TR; so far it looks OK
10:38 schestowitz-TR; the VID files I think I uploaded temporarily there and later flushed them
10:38 schestowitz-TR; the rest are things like locks (so far)
10:38 schestowitz-TR; we need to back up root /root sometimes
10:38 schestowitz-TR; nothing critical there, but if lost, we'd have to restore stuff from there
10:38 schestowitz-TR; some of it is ancient (>10 years ago)
10:39 schestowitz-TR; I see two "other links" empty, but that's probably by design
10:39 schestowitz-TR; EOF :-)
10:39 schestowitz-TR; OK, much of that I can justify as "yes, makes sense"
10:39 schestowitz-TR; the file that I saw empty yesterday I still suspect was rubbed off
10:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe by someone who did not like the meme
10:39 schestowitz-TR; but the guzip thing was VERY VERY important to the bottom of regardless
10:39 schestowitz-TR; maybe guzip ~/archive/*.gz
10:39 schestowitz-TR; to see what's the "earliest" bad GZ file
10:39 schestowitz-TR; if you have a copy of that offline
10:39 schestowitz-TR; or just -t for testing
10:39 schestowitz-TR; which I guess I could do on the live server?
10:39 schestowitz-TR; remember: THIS IS MY LIFE'S and SUSAN's and RIANNE'S work, inc. on holidays
10:39 schestowitz-TR; and although we're not a "BANK" this data will need to be secured for history's sake
10:39 schestowitz-TR; we don't have a bank's budget, but see what happened to Groklaw just a few years down the line
10:40 Techrights-sec; ok
10:40 Techrights-sec; yes those were probably days when the old file was appened instead of the
10:40 Techrights-sec; new file; the new work flow reduces the likelihood of that
10:40 Techrights-sec; which GIF?
10:40 schestowitz-TR; re the gif file, see what I wrote last night and then pasted again an hour ago
10:41 Techrights-sec; remember the -c option
10:41 Techrights-sec; yes I will try with the offline copy
10:41 Techrights-sec; best not to mess with the live copy
10:41 Techrights-sec; either way it will be slow; processing ...
10:41 Techrights-sec; yes
10:42 Techrights-sec; groklaw made some mistakes (perhaps intentionally) regarding conversion
10:42 Techrights-sec; to a static site
10:42 Techrights-sec; I don't have the scroll back and did not notice a URL for a GIF either time
10:42 Techrights-sec; or a path
10:46 Techrights-sec; ack
10:55 schestowitz-TR; let's leave that aside, suppose the file system is OK
10:55 schestowitz-TR; I did some gulagwandering for forums re gzip/gunzip
10:55 schestowitz-TR; assuming maybe the hardware itself can damage the integrity of the archive
10:55 schestowitz-TR; because, afaik, since moving to this server we never had to restart a DB
10:55 schestowitz-TR; until this month
10:55 schestowitz-TR; if we find some bad archives from 2021, then we know it's not a new issue
10:55 schestowitz-TR; and predates thec change of physical media in February (IIRC)
10:56 schestowitz-TR; I mean, restore a DB, not restart a DB
10:56 schestowitz-TR; but we rarely had to restart the DB as well, since the DBs got moved to a container of their own
10:57 Techrights-sec; there is also the question of LXC, I don't know how experimental it is
10:57 Techrights-sec; It will take a while longer to finish the regular backups and then
10:57 Techrights-sec; run gunzip -c on the files
10:57 Techrights-sec; ack
11:01 schestowitz-TR; I guess that I should be relieved that as a side effect of this mishap/incident we're made to look
11:01 schestowitz-TR; closely into a real issue, and moreover do some sanity checks
11:01 schestowitz-TR; there were some blessings in disguide lately, like finding out about obs studio due to noisetorch/kde neon woes
11:01 schestowitz-TR; and distributing tuxmachines DB dumbs across 12-hour intervansl, among other things
11:02 schestowitz-TR; as I said, writing new nmaterial is far less important than assuring the integrity of masses of old material
11:02 schestowitz-TR; not many sites can last this long in an age with a "long term support" is just 5 years
11:02 schestowitz-TR; and media shifting, host shifting etc. is routinely required
11:02 schestowitz-TR; we already moved this setup a lot, 2 moved (or 3 including initial) under this host
11:02 schestowitz-TR; plus a migration to another physical drive, jyst months ago
11:02 schestowitz-TR; thgis is 'the fun' of 'IT'
11:02 schestowitz-TR; imagine other disciplines being so volatil
11:04 schestowitz-TR; *volatile
11:04 schestowitz-TR; this will have ramifications on a professional and personal level
11:04 schestowitz-TR; already you hear of tons ofm people who "lose all their photos
11:04 schestowitz-TR; stolen pphone, bad driver, "clown" shutdown (apropos isteon(TM))
11:04 schestowitz-TR; so by pushing people off physical firm you assure they're forgotten fast
11:04 schestowitz-TR; *physical film
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11:05 Techrights-sec; yes
11:05 Techrights-sec; there are interests which benefit from the chaos and churn however
11:05 Techrights-sec; (on a general level, globally)
11:07 schestowitz-TR; they should transform the NSA into "photo restortation services Inc."
11:07 schestowitz-TR; finally some positive use for these drift nets of data
11:07 schestowitz-TR; (I have millions of files on my external drives, some are backups for relatives too, like a "vault" of sorts)
11:07 schestowitz-TR; (every x years the ccaapcity doubles and the "old" drive can be copied into the new, with spare space leftr)
11:09 Techrights-sec; :/ it is probably all there in Utah
11:10 schestowitz-TR; 3 years ago it added the 'assange file' to it collectiobs
11:10 schestowitz-TR; sent from london
11:11 Techrights-sec; yes though even on normal drives, bits can flip for no good reason
11:11 Techrights-sec; thus the work on OpenZFS and BtrFS in that regards
11:13 schestowitz-TR; microsoft, oracle
11:13 schestowitz-TR; not much for them to gain from data integrity
11:13 schestowitz-TR; too busy w/ graft
11:13 schestowitz-TR; then coverup
11:17 Techrights-sec; looking at the backups, some recent backups have not been gzipped
11:17 Techrights-sec; drupaldatabase-20220419.dump
11:17 Techrights-sec; wikidatabase-20220420.dump
11:17 Techrights-sec; wikidatabase-20220421.dump
11:17 Techrights-sec; wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump
11:17 Techrights-sec; if not also some others
11:17 Techrights-sec; they should remaain gzipped, the program has a -cc option to avoid
11:17 Techrights-sec; affecting the file itself while decompressing
11:17 Techrights-sec; the backup drive on this end does not have infinite free space
11:17 Techrights-sec; and mysql dumps compress nicely, when they are not corrupted
11:18 Techrights-sec; np
11:18 Techrights-sec; ok, rerunning the backup
11:18 schestowitz-TR; this is me 'testing' them
11:18 schestowitz-TR; sorry about that, yes, I did delete some "bad" files afterwards
11:18 schestowitz-TR; I think that only for TM the on-server stack of backups goes years back
11:20 Techrights-sec; Apr 19 still is uncompressed in the cache on TR
11:20 schestowitz-TR; I have deleted it since because this morning's (21) deflated OK
11:20 schestowitz-TR; for this past week, the wordpress backups were mostly 'bad' (the GZ files were)
11:20 schestowitz-TR; it is a bit scary to think that we can go on for almost a week if not weeks without a working DB dump
11:20 schestowitz-TR; to recover from if needed
11:28 Techrights-sec; I will compress these on TR:
11:28 Techrights-sec; /home/boycottn/drupaldatabase-20220419.dump
11:28 Techrights-sec; /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220420.dump
11:28 Techrights-sec; /home/boycottn/wikidatabase-20220421.dump
11:28 Techrights-sec; /home/boycottn/wordpressdatabase-20220421.dump
11:28 Techrights-sec; yes, but it is more scary to think about the filesystem or the
11:28 Techrights-sec; obsolete, defunct operating system
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11:47 schestowitz-TR; yes, I tested this one last night and many more too
11:47 schestowitz-TR; for 21 it's OK, also on the local (TM) machine
11:47 schestowitz-TR; or ratther, that one alone is OK, today at 5pm we'll see if the remote too is OK
11:47 schestowitz-TR; what I'd like to know is, when did we start getting bad dumps and why
11:47 schestowitz-TR; I did not sleep well because of this
11:47 Techrights-sec; ok rsyncing files to the local drive ...
11:47 Techrights-sec; gzip: tm-db-20220420.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated
11:47 Techrights-sec; :(
11:47 Techrights-sec; gzip: tm-db-20220419.dump.gz: invalid compressed data--format violated
11:47 Techrights-sec; ok it the next dump will be at 20:12 or so, server time
11:47 Techrights-sec; agreed. it is an important question
11:48 schestowitz-TR; what we do know it that it predates the issues we had on the tuxmachines web site
11:49 schestowitz-TR; because we checked dumps going a week prior to it
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11:51 Techrights-sec; https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2022-1271
11:51 Techrights-sec; probably not relevant but indicative of a need to upgrade
11:51 Techrights-sec; tm-db-20220418.dump.gz is ok
11:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-security-tracker.debian.org | CVE-2022-1271
12:03 Techrights-sec; yes
12:09 schestowitz-TR; rianne is posting in TM now
12:09 schestowitz-TR; I will try to focus not on posts today but more pressing stuff
12:09 schestowitz-TR; anyway, one slow week in two decades is not a big deal
12:09 schestowitz-TR; there's a lack of important news anyhow (not just in software)
12:10 schestowitz-TR; seems like it was a lot more dynamic 10+ years ago
12:10 schestowitz-TR; not latest android, or apps, or clown... the industry is stagnating for sure
12:10 schestowitz-TR; there is nothing exciting in the new release of ubuntu
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and vista * became a shoddy, restrictive "apps" and "advertisiing" (spying) platform
12:10 schestowitz-TR; you merely rent to be used
12:10 schestowitz-TR; when you give "the people" very shoddy tools (phone and apps) their ability to organise
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and make meaningful change ism impeded greratly
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and centralisation means you can 'switch people off'
12:10 schestowitz-TR; like therew was remorse 'up there' about giving peopple too much power and autonomy
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and now it is hip to have spy home ("smart") and rent culture in spotify/netflix
12:10 schestowitz-TR; and sharing something with neighbours is like terrorism
12:10 Techrights-sec; there are only a small fraction of people at work as tech journalists
12:10 Techrights-sec; nowadays compared to even 10 years ago and of those that remain, most
12:10 Techrights-sec; are on the payroll of m$ directly or indirectly
12:10 Techrights-sec; tm-db-20220417.dump.gz is ok
12:10 Techrights-sec; their general productivity goes down and they have to struggle to stay
12:10 Techrights-sec; afloat
12:14 schestowitz-TR; [10:21] <techrights-news> "The UK has an obligation not to send any person to a place where their life or safety is at risk and the g
12:14 schestowitz-TR; overnment must not abdicate that responsibility." https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se
12:14 schestowitz-TR; nt-to-home-sec-for-approval.html | Source: IT Wire (sadly, this site was outsourced to Microsoft criminals)
12:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/assange-extradition-order-issued,-se )
12:14 schestowitz-TR; I wonder
12:14 schestowitz-TR; 1) what this means to work tools of Sam (Email 'collaboration
12:14 schestowitz-TR; 2) pressure from above, inc. "suggestions" of topics to cover
12:14 schestowitz-TR; His "sauce" blog had its rss feed break many times over the years
12:14 schestowitz-TR; they used mambo, then joomla iirc
12:14 schestowitz-TR; their site is technically quite a mess
12:14 schestowitz-TR; sometimes very slow, sometimes clownflare, sometimes JS a must
12:14 schestowitz-TR; stan beer left and now there's some guy I never heard of
12:14 schestowitz-TR; their home it to make a profit by some ads, job ads, and puff pieces
12:14 schestowitz-TR; sam is not very technical, but he always had a big mouth and was non-conformist
12:14 schestowitz-TR; we used to chat a lot behind the scenes
12:14 schestowitz-TR; he did get told off my management, iirc, to the point where they removed some
12:14 schestowitz-TR; of his articles
12:15 Techrights-sec; checking all the gzipped dumps stored here will take a while
12:15 Techrights-sec; well the seem to have given him a stout kick in the ass with this recent move
12:19 Techrights-sec; "change the system from within" is at best appeasement, which ...
12:19 Techrights-sec; ack
12:20 schestowitz-TR; you know, I always laughed at this whole "change the system from within"
12:20 schestowitz-TR; unless you are an evil mole like elop
12:20 schestowitz-TR; aral balkan joked about greta thunberg joining exxon
12:20 schestowitz-TR; or the people joining the army to reform it... as if they could
12:20 schestowitz-TR; now, in sam's case, he has always worked alongside very troublesome colleagues
12:20 schestowitz-TR; many vanished, I still remember some names
12:20 schestowitz-TR; some are microsoft boosters in other sites now
12:20 schestowitz-TR; e.g. dave winder in forbes
12:20 schestowitz-TR; sam stayed there very long
12:20 schestowitz-TR; whitney webb started her own blog late
12:20 schestowitz-TR; chris hedges is having his work purged
12:20 schestowitz-TR; first truthdig
12:20 schestowitz-TR; and now gulagtube
12:20 schestowitz-TR; there's a lesson to be learned from all this, but if you don't teach people basic technical skills
12:20 schestowitz-TR; their blog will collpase at some point and data will be lost
12:20 schestowitz-TR; that goes back to the point I made above ^^ about keeping people powerless
12:20 schestowitz-TR; dis-empowering people for collectiuve control over them
12:20 schestowitz-TR; inc. journalists
12:25 schestowitz-TR; sorry to go on a tangent here, but I do think the nature of our hosting (OS upgrade due) gives us high poitential
12:25 schestowitz-TR; and advantage, both for TM and TR
12:25 schestowitz-TR; phoronix has contraints to do with cost, e.g. electric bills
12:25 schestowitz-TR; other sites need to hire expensive tech support to keep going
12:25 schestowitz-TR; we have one such client with SLA at work
12:25 schestowitz-TR; they are activvists for human rights
12:25 schestowitz-TR; but must get support contracts for the tech side
12:25 schestowitz-TR; LXer linked to pro-Microsoft article yesterday
12:25 schestowitz-TR; they linked to us days ago (as noted today), the traffic they bring these days is minuscule
12:25 schestowitz-TR; like x10 less than 10-15 years ago
12:25 schestowitz-TR; Linux Today the same
12:25 schestowitz-TR; but at the same time social control media becames only/mostly politics/gossip, by intention (to "look big")
12:25 schestowitz-TR; right now we attract sources and whistleblowers simply because they have nowhere else to turn
12:25 schestowitz-TR; some got censored elsewhere, e.g. Medium vs Lewis
12:25 schestowitz-TR; EPO has muzzled even its own union using threats
12:26 Techrights-sec; costs tend to increase pressure even when they are meetable
12:26 Techrights-sec; I've stopped reading LXer long ago.
12:26 Techrights-sec; It's not like they have anything interesting with great frequency any more
12:26 Techrights-sec; the worst is so-called and formeer journalist pretending that social control
12:26 Techrights-sec; media is a source of information
12:30 schestowitz-TR; One has to self-censor a lot when copies go to Twitter
12:30 schestowitz-TR; that applied to me too, more so after some sanctions
12:30 schestowitz-TR; which were not even for the most "strong" or "controversial" opinions
12:30 schestowitz-TR; mostly things to do with Bill and Big Pharma
12:30 schestowitz-TR; when I got off all these platforms the tone changed because I didn't have
12:30 schestowitz-TR; to justify myself to moderators
12:30 schestowitz-TR; so all these former journalists, as RMS might say (citing Chomsky actually; he told this to me in Oxford),
12:30 schestowitz-TR; are limited to a very narrow range of permissible views
12:30 schestowitz-TR; anything outside the Twitter spectrum is outlandish and puts your very existence at trisk
12:30 schestowitz-TR; *risk
12:30 schestowitz-TR; the media promotes this idea that Twitter will be "safe" (for now) so long as you are
12:30 schestowitz-TR; now some GOPKKK politician or David Ike or some other but
12:30 schestowitz-TR; *but
12:30 schestowitz-TR; > nut
12:30 schestowitz-TR; but the broom goes further and further each year
12:33 schestowitz-TR; politician get paid not to tweet but to read law and assess what they are doing
12:33 schestowitz-TR; unlike the public which is already over-occupied 9-5+ commute+kids etc.
12:33 schestowitz-TR; I give much credit to people who all along saw that social control media was
12:33 schestowitz-TR; harmful short-term gratification like smoking
12:33 schestowitz-TR; all this "social" stuff goes up in spoke
12:33 schestowitz-TR; like Digg.com did, not even many years after it was "talk of the town"
12:36 Techrights-sec; How are they able to get so much leverage over the union(s) without turncoats
12:36 Techrights-sec; within?
12:36 Techrights-sec; yes twittier is one means "they" use to shift the overton window on a great
12:36 Techrights-sec; many topics
12:36 Techrights-sec; https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/us/politics/overton-window-democrats.html
12:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How the Politically Unthinkable Can Become Mainstream - The New York Times
12:36 Techrights-sec; except they do the opposite now
12:36 Techrights-sec; https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow
12:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mackinac.org | The Overton Window Mackinac Center
12:36 Techrights-sec; digg sucked from day one; it always blocked and hid anything and everything
12:36 Techrights-sec; related to both OpenDocument Format and open standards at a time when
12:36 Techrights-sec; both were otherwise being discussed across the industry
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I could do a TR search on this topic as we did cover how Digg and others had covered -- or had not -- ODF
12:38 schestowitz-TR; you would struggle these days to explain to people what the site was, who was there, what was discussed etc.
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I put an online copy of all my submissions there
12:38 schestowitz-TR; about 10k of them iirc
12:38 schestowitz-TR; I also left about 13k comments
12:38 schestowitz-TR; all are gone now
12:39 Techrights-sec; it was a badly biased site, though perhaps not as bad as conde nast's reddit
12:42 schestowitz-TR; the bias if the business mode
12:42 schestowitz-TR; *model
12:42 schestowitz-TR; many accused it of being very pro-apple
12:42 schestowitz-TR; maybe because of the co-founders
12:42 schestowitz-TR; but it was also far too soft on microsoft
12:42 schestowitz-TR; reddit was starting to emerge
12:42 schestowitz-TR; sucking up even harder to microsoft
12:42 schestowitz-TR; and then twitter
12:42 schestowitz-TR; along with FB
12:42 Techrights-sec; which only ever pretends to have open discussions, when it reality
12:42 Techrights-sec; they are very tightly controlled and censored
12:44 schestowitz-TR; they do not claim to be "free speech"; they use other terms
12:44 schestowitz-TR; but, to me, gemini and blogs with rss try to rectify this
12:44 schestowitz-TR; even replies should not be in blog posts themselves
12:44 schestowitz-TR; but in your own turf
12:44 schestowitz-TR; e.g. Re: Leaving Gemini
12:44 schestowitz-TR; this way censorship is not a problem at all
12:45 schestowitz-TR; and you don't rely on the mercy of other platform owners
12:45 schestowitz-TR; or their ability to keep their sites online
12:45 Techrights-sec; yes the business model is mass manipulation of public opinion
12:46 schestowitz-TR; you mention busiuiness models
12:46 schestowitz-TR; look at event brochures of LF
12:46 schestowitz-TR; not for attendees
12:46 schestowitz-TR; for for sponsors
12:46 schestowitz-TR; then you understand what Twitter means to them
12:47 Techrights-sec; I think old, pre-sale Slashdot scared them in that regard since for a few
12:47 Techrights-sec; years it ws the single most influential site on the net but not under control
12:47 Techrights-sec; of either M$ or its aligned interests
12:47 Techrights-sec; yep
12:47 Techrights-sec; yes, the optimal approach is to have one's own site or blog and post
12:47 Techrights-sec; responses there
12:47 Techrights-sec; their brochures show what they are really about. however there is a lot
12:47 Techrights-sec; of wishful and "magical" thinking going on among the general population
12:47 Techrights-sec; including the general developer and FOSS developer population
12:50 schestowitz-TR; it is hardly shocking that LF shilsl GitHub
12:50 schestowitz-TR; they think alike
12:50 schestowitz-TR; and speaking of "LIKE", they want "measurable" things
12:50 schestowitz-TR; again, see how the brochures put it
12:50 schestowitz-TR; and wjhat services are on sale
12:50 schestowitz-TR; maybe they throw some "free" voucher in for spamnail spamtalk
12:50 schestowitz-TR; coming soon: get booth, now limited offer of "gratus" tweet from Jono Bacon,"
12:50 schestowitz-TR; one "Let's Talk" and "To the Point" with spamnil, and one puff piece with Christine
12:50 schestowitz-TR; of FOSS Farce
12:50 Techrights-sec; LF is stocked with microsofters and other GPL -hostile entities
12:50 schestowitz-TR; [09:25] <techrights-news> Ericsson literally worked with terrorists. Now it has TWO seats in the board of the Linux Foundation. https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/telecoms-and-nbn/ericsson-cannot-estimate-impact-of-doj-breach-notices.html | Source: IT Wire
12:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-iTWire - Ericsson cannot estimate impact of DOJ breach notices
12:52 activelow; GPL itself can be dangerous to "free software", because it enables undesireable changes by those who can push most of those (GTK1-2-3-4, thats no progress for free software, that's an attack against it, in the name of GPL)
12:52 activelow; GPL without _standards_ that is
12:53 activelow; I remember 10 years ago Microsoft hit a record of most monthly commits to linux kernel (with their virtualizatin stuff iirc)
12:54 Techrights-sec; yep andthere will be no repercussions for their actions, not even
12:54 Techrights-sec; (or especcially)) economic contraints
12:54 schestowitz-TR; activelow: just code
12:55 schestowitz-TR; greg k-h complained about it
12:55 schestowitz-TR; LOC ~= quality
12:55 schestowitz-TR; number of commits can be a sign of many errors
12:55 Techrights-sec; yes, I saw that, the HTTP site can be releagted to a mirror of the Gemini
12:55 Techrights-sec; site but it ought to be retained if for no other reason than to drive
12:55 Techrights-sec; attention to Gemini; However, it's their choice whaichever way.
12:57 schestowitz-TR; Gemini is still growing
12:57 schestowitz-TR; USENET not does some of the comms, but as some paut it, better to have discussions across capsules
12:57 schestowitz-TR; an online https archive of the mailing lists (read-only) sort of defeats the purpose and spirit of the project
12:57 schestowitz-TR; anyway. I am finding many gemini:// links these days, sometimes gopher too
12:57 schestowitz-TR; some are lengthy and good use of time
13:00 Techrights-sec; yes though the list would have helped
13:00 Techrights-sec; that's a drawback to automation; there are a number of good sites which
13:00 Techrights-sec; I /ought/ to check but since they are covered reasonably well by the automated
13:00 Techrights-sec; feed agregator there is little incentive since I already have information
13:00 Techrights-sec; overload as it is
13:01 schestowitz-TR; moreover, the project is now "big enough" to grow on its own
13:01 schestowitz-TR; with or without email to "talk about" Gemini
13:01 schestowitz-TR; we need to talk less ABOUT Gemini
13:01 schestowitz-TR; and instead USE and LEWVERAGE gemini
13:01 schestowitz-TR; to make new and unique "content"
13:01 schestowitz-TR; I added 2 or 3 GemLogs saying it this month after drew had moaning that Gemini talks about itself too much
13:01 schestowitz-TR; in techrights we barely cover Gemini anymore
13:01 schestowitz-TR; and the automated updates have worked OK for days
13:01 schestowitz-TR; so I mostly forgot about those
13:01 schestowitz-TR; information is a pyramid
13:01 schestowitz-TR; if properly organised (i.e. notm BillBC)
13:01 schestowitz-TR; then you choose the level you want
13:01 schestowitz-TR; granularity
13:01 schestowitz-TR; and if time permits you go deeper or further down the pyramic
13:01 schestowitz-TR; in techrigghts we divide by topics
13:01 schestowitz-TR; so it's easier to skip things you do not relate to
13:04 Techrights-sec; yes
13:06 schestowitz-TR; [12:52] <activelow> GPL without _standards_ that is
13:06 schestowitz-TR; like formal satndards?
13:06 schestowitz-TR; you could argue that GPL overcomes some of these things
13:07 schestowitz-TR; both GPL software and 'standard' can be bloated
13:07 schestowitz-TR; like MPEG
13:26 activelow; schestowitz-TR: motif widget toolkit is an example, which type of standard together with GPL protect software freedom
13:26 activelow; in this case it is an IEEE standard, which guarantees stability and software freedom
13:27 activelow; it is not possible to attack motif anymore, because it is guarded by both mentioned standards and GPL
13:28 activelow; if the IEEE standard was dropped from motif, this permitted any changes to it in compliance with GPL license terms
13:28 activelow; and this is exactly what happened to GTK2/3/4; it was attacked in compliance with GPL, it was GPL itself which killed GTK stability
13:29 activelow; otherwise i don't know the details of MPEG and standardization, patent claims etc.
13:31 activelow; and the irony with formerly proprietary motif widget toolkit which RMS objected to, nowadays motif is more "free" than FSF/GNU endorsed GTK/GNOME
13:31 schestowitz-TR; You've long pointed out, correctly, lockin associated with bloat
13:31 schestowitz-TR; which becomes a freedom issue
13:31 schestowitz-TR; FSF and GTK/GNOME are GNU
13:32 schestowitz-TR; or related to GNU
13:32 schestowitz-TR; I don't think FSF specifically endorses or recommends GNOME
13:32 schestowitz-TR; GIMP maybe
13:32 schestowitz-TR; GIMP is GNU
13:32 schestowitz-TR; not GNOME
13:32 schestowitz-TR; and GTK is developed by ICBM mostly
13:32 activelow; furthermore, i consider GPL copyleft too weak, GPL copyleft does not prevent "incorporation" into proprietary products (FSF is lying if they claim GPL copyleft did)
13:33 schestowitz-TR; GPL is sued a lot in proprietary
13:33 schestowitz-TR; like clown computing
13:33 schestowitz-TR; then there's affero
13:33 schestowitz-TR; most clown BS runs proprietary "webapps"
13:33 schestowitz-TR; they use GPL for OS and stuff
13:33 schestowitz-TR; then there's LGPL
13:33 activelow; sued how? even without GPL copyleft violations, the GPL copyleft clause itself is too weak
13:34 activelow; LGPL is even weaker copyleft
13:34 activelow; yet ordinary GPL copyleft is too weak already (another suspicious FSF stance when they imply GPL copyleft was strong)
13:35 activelow; if, IBM, as a major GPL copyright holder and/or author, if IBM chose _not_ to enforce GPL copyleft, then the entire copyleft claim is void
13:36 activelow; because, i think, it is _only_ the copyright holder which can enforce copyleft
13:36 schestowitz-TR; in court?
13:36 schestowitz-TR; or gentleman's agreement/settlement?
13:36 schestowitz-TR; sometimes contacting an author is enough
13:36 schestowitz-TR; and then the code is released "back"
13:37 schestowitz-TR; which I think is preferable
13:37 schestowitz-TR; more consensual, no lawyers necessary
13:38 activelow; btw. i do support GPL and copyleft, yet GPL (regardless of LGPL) is too weak and unspecific, concerning both undesirable and desirable copyleft
13:38 schestowitz-TR; don't mind me asking, but... have you released some programs to the public?
13:39 activelow; schestowitz-TR: yes, i released the most efficient and most secure symmetric block cipher
13:40 schestowitz-TR; is it public somewhere?
13:40 schestowitz-TR; I want to assess
13:40 activelow; github
13:40 activelow; although, since there wasn't any feedback about this, i didn't push any update anymore
13:40 schestowitz-TR; ok, nobody is perfect ^_^
13:40 activelow; and, i do not work for zero income
13:41 activelow; https://github.com/agg1/scram88
13:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-GitHub - agg1/scram88: scram88 polymorphic scrambler matrix crypto stack
13:41 schestowitz-TR; you can self-host
13:41 schestowitz-TR; even on your own PC
13:41 schestowitz-TR; with DNS set up righ
13:41 schestowitz-TR; I need another machine
13:41 schestowitz-TR; rekonq gives me blank pages in shithub
13:42 activelow; for BaphometOS my connection is too slow: 2mbit uplink
13:42 activelow; and i am not willing to outsource anywhere into clown where i do not have full control over the server
13:44 activelow; furthermore, i fear, if i released BaphometOS, then GPL copyleft enforce did catch me, because i cannot publish without any ROI while others capitalize upon GPL
13:44 schestowitz-TR; "lite" is the non-commercial?
13:45 activelow; lite means i got another variant of this, nonetheless lite doesn't weaken the cryptographic strength at all
13:45 schestowitz-TR; you are one month older than me
13:46 activelow; and for studying puproses of non-primitive recurse LFSR the lite variant is more suitable
13:46 activelow; meanwhile, i removed the entire dm-crypt API from kernel here, and implemented an even simpler variant
13:46 activelow; which i won't publish either
13:47 schestowitz-TR; the code could use more comments (just saying')
13:47 schestowitz-TR; *sayin'
13:47 schestowitz-TR; also, patents don't work as exclaimed there
13:47 schestowitz-TR; maybe a misunderstanding
13:47 schestowitz-TR; they're something you must apply for
13:47 activelow; schestowitz-TR: i don't f**ing care
13:47 schestowitz-TR; in this case, software/maths
13:48 schestowitz-TR; the attorneys know how to cheat the corrupt EPO
13:48 schestowitz-TR; to get patents on abstract things, even other people's work
13:48 activelow; i don't think it is a patent issue anyway, it is an issue of "author's rights" and "berne convention"
13:48 schestowitz-TR; anyway, it's GOOD that people still work on crypto
13:49 schestowitz-TR; the "official" stuff is not trustworthy
13:49 activelow; furthermore, i do disagree with RMS and "intellectual property", meaning, my reading of "intellectual property" is "author's rights"
13:49 schestowitz-TR; BND along with six-eyes hunt down anyone who makes crypto not "approved" (e.g. weakened) by them
13:50 activelow; lol, you know, i "downgraded" the most recent implementation to 32bit
13:50 schestowitz-TR; I think calling them "rights" at all is a disservice to the concept of concrete rightrs
13:50 schestowitz-TR; rights to food, water, due process...
13:50 activelow; i mean, i am looking forward to their argument, why and how 256bit crypto is advertised, while i am totally happy with 32bit
13:50 schestowitz-TR; 64bit being too hard to figure out in the processor sense?
13:50 schestowitz-TR; doesn't matter how many bits
13:51 activelow; the cipher strength cannot be easily estimated with amount of bits
13:51 schestowitz-TR; if it doesn't work, it doesn't work
13:51 schestowitz-TR; right
13:51 schestowitz-TR; it's a cock-measuring content
13:51 schestowitz-TR; *contest
13:51 activelow; the key to understanding is: "known plaintext attacks"
13:51 activelow; and my design is not prone to it
13:51 activelow; so i can happily live with 32bits advertised
13:52 activelow; furthermore, ECB is the best choice, in practice; off-topic, just saying, ECB isn't the problem
13:52 schestowitz-TR; I agree that they measure the wrong thing
13:53 schestowitz-TR; heh, ECB
13:53 schestowitz-TR; European Central Bank... (Also)
13:53 activelow; electronic codebook mode
13:53 activelow; wikipedia is lying about it
13:53 schestowitz-TR; how many "bits" was ENIGMA?
13:53 activelow; don't know
13:54 activelow; nonetheless, enigma was a brilliant piece of engineering
13:54 schestowitz-TR; iirc, they modulated signals
13:54 schestowitz-TR; and the way it was encoded/decoded was by mechanical instruments
13:54 schestowitz-TR; before semiconductors
13:57 schestowitz-TR; The patents that kill https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/20/corruption-in-drug-patents-take-away-the-money/
13:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Corruption in Drug Patents: Take Away the Money - CounterPunch.org
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14:01 activelow; GPL is missing another clause, such as, _everyone_ (not copyright holder only) has the right to enforce copyleft of any GPL piece of software
14:01 activelow; the solution of the FSF, was insisting on copyright assignment to FSF (GCC)
14:03 activelow; yet even then, FSF only as copyright holder of GCC could enforce copyleft, not me
14:03 activelow; meanwhile, GCC dropped copyright assignment to FSF, which isn't that relevant anymore anyway, because copyleft clause of GPL is too weak
14:08 activelow; it may have been the intention of GPL, yet the copyleft clause should have read such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_"
14:08 schestowitz-TR; who would you have enforced it against and why?
14:09 activelow; ok, furthermore GPL does _not_ prohibit "incorporation" into proprietary/commercial products (microsoft WSL)
14:10 activelow; not that i wanted to see the source code of Microsoft Windows, certainly not, yet i want _everyone_ to have the opportunity to see it, what Pentagon had for sale
14:10 activelow; and, even if, such as GNOME, is hiding the truth in plain sight, even then it isn't recognized what is endorsed, spyware
14:12 activelow; and my vision of FSF is, they continue lying about it (supposedly strong copyleft, invalid intellectual property, spying)
14:12 Techrights-sec; It looks like about 40 of the acrhived files are bad. The first one
14:12 Techrights-sec; may be tm-db-20220106.dump.gz and a few days in a row there are bad
14:12 Techrights-sec; then again quite a few from there on out
14:12 Techrights-sec; see /tmp/gunzip.log on the RPi
14:12 Techrights-sec; and /tmp/gunzip.err
14:13 schestowitz-TR; how many files do you have prior to jan 6th? I'm trying to understand when the problemn began as we might be able to associate that w
14:13 schestowitz-TR; with some change to the site
14:13 schestowitz-TR; last night I tried 2 dumps from 2021 and 2 from 2020 (TM)
14:28 Techrights-sec; the above list is a check of the full set here
14:28 Techrights-sec; both files include the list of corrupted gzip files but the .err one has the
14:28 Techrights-sec; specific error message too
14:28 Techrights-sec; If I were to guess I would say the gzip files are corrupted in-place
14:32 schestowitz-TR; so it started around Insurrection Day?
14:32 schestowitz-TR; The files from 2020 and 2021 that I tried were OK
14:32 schestowitz-TR; 4 of them in total
14:33 schestowitz-TR; testing 3 files from Dec 2021
14:33 Techrights-sec; yes those are the bad files I can make a diff showing the suspected good files
14:35 Techrights-sec; The first corrupt file is from the anniversary of the insurrection but
14:35 Techrights-sec; that is probably a coincidence. I would suspect something with LXC if
14:35 Techrights-sec; I had to take a wild guess or the drive upon which the data is stored, but
14:35 Techrights-sec; do not have the means to check the latter nor the knowledge to check the
14:35 Techrights-sec; former.
14:40 schestowitz-TR; the physical drive was changed around February
14:40 schestowitz-TR; so the errors persisted after that
14:40 schestowitz-TR; that's why it's useful to trace it back to dates
14:40 schestowitz-TR; trying 5 more from Nov 2021
14:40 schestowitz-TR; they are all OK, too
14:40 schestowitz-TR; so in total 12 files from 2011 that I tested uncompress OK
14:40 schestowitz-TR; Jan 6th onwardd 4 nights in a row it failed
14:40 schestowitz-TR; Maybe patching at HV?
14:40 schestowitz-TR; so far I saw no such error in TM, but I could only check 2 dumps
14:40 schestowitz-TR; it would be worth seeing if this affects just one VM
14:40 schestowitz-TR; as they use a different OS version
14:44 schestowitz-TR; activelow: fsf does not endorse gnome afaik
14:44 schestowitz-TR; it does recommend gnu
14:44 schestowitz-TR; and gnome is barely even doing justice to the g
14:44 schestowitz-TR; in 2009 some a-holes tried to remove gnome from gnu
14:48 activelow; FSF does promote GPL, and GPL without _standards_ applicable to GTK ruined gnome
14:49 activelow; furthermore, FSF does endorse and promote distributions which ship with gnome
14:49 schestowitz-TR; a distro can contain 2 thousand components
14:49 schestowitz-TR; even more
14:49 schestowitz-TR; if you count their repos
14:50 schestowitz-TR; it doesn't mean fsf endorses all these components
14:50 schestowitz-TR; btw
14:50 schestowitz-TR; gtk can make other DEs
14:50 schestowitz-TR; and it does
14:50 schestowitz-TR; so gtk/gnome duality wasn't always this tight
14:50 schestowitz-TR; ICBM made it so
14:50 activelow; and, for example, if epiphany(gnome)/chromium/mozilla were expelled the FSF/GNU/Linux would loose almost their entire user base and many developers
14:51 activelow; i consider GTK itself compromised, even when systemd/dbus are entirely removed (which is possible still)
14:52 activelow; and again, FSF/GNU/Linux cannot ditch GTK entirely without loosing almost their entire userbase and most developers
14:52 activelow; and strengthening GPL is impossible
14:53 activelow; such as "all GPL source code must be released to _everyone_"
14:53 Techrights-sec; I can check TR's backups too but those were just for TM since you mentioned
14:53 Techrights-sec; it most recently.
14:53 activelow; and "GPL source code is prohibited from incorporation into all non-free software"
14:53 schestowitz-TR; Techrights-sec:
14:53 schestowitz-TR; how far back did the TM tests go? I mean, maybe I duplicate effort here
14:53 schestowitz-TR; each such backup is about 160,000 "posts"
14:53 schestowitz-TR; in table drupal.node
14:53 schestowitz-TR; which incidentally is easy to use to make a file dump to GemText files
14:53 schestowitz-TR; it will be something like ADD ... or INSERT and then the HTML stuff for body and a field for title
14:53 schestowitz-TR; so no need to even scrape any pages
14:54 schestowitz-TR; activelow: who would you sue?
14:54 schestowitz-TR; or rather, do you worry the authors (FSF, CLA) will deny ou access to code they get back?
14:54 activelow; with regards to my individual interests?
14:55 activelow; i would sue Deutsche Telekom, German employment agency, and hundreds of "human resource" offices
14:55 activelow; unrelated to free software
14:55 schestowitz-TR; they are too conencted to the state
14:55 schestowitz-TR; you would not win
14:56 activelow; damages due to violation of my rights accumulates to millions of cash already
14:56 schestowitz-TR; DT is like pseudo-private
14:56 schestowitz-TR; like BT here
14:56 schestowitz-TR; asking state courts to hold the state accountable is hard
14:56 activelow; add to this damages to public interest of hundreds of millions
14:57 activelow; the latter being difficult to quantify, as the amount of jobs lost in east-germany, for example
14:59 schestowitz-TR; they would need proof. But anyway, this is diverging away from the original topic.
14:59 schestowitz-TR; which was GPL
15:01 activelow; i got proof for this: bavarian officials threatening me with incarceration
15:02 Techrights-sec; see /tmp/gunzip.all for the full list
15:02 Techrights-sec; grep -v -F -f /tmp/gunzip.log /tmp/gunzip.all
15:02 Techrights-sec; will show the good ones, with the except of odd names like tm-db-20220412-damaged.dump.gz
15:04 schestowitz-TR; I don't think we changed anything that month, but maybe system updates were applied to HV (not
15:04 schestowitz-TR; that I am aware)
15:04 Techrights-sec; applied or needed
15:11 schestowitz-TR; thinking 'aloud':
15:11 schestowitz-TR; the issue started before and persisted after disk change
15:11 schestowitz-TR; the "bad" file (gif) was apparently one of a kind, maybe perpetually a mystery
15:11 schestowitz-TR; we have no potent evidence that the physical disk is to blame
15:11 schestowitz-TR; we could, for a few nights, try another compression program
15:11 schestowitz-TR; there are a few ones that compress better
15:11 schestowitz-TR; but our scripts look for "gz" specifically
15:11 schestowitz-TR; I have just checked and xz is installed on TR
15:11 schestowitz-TR; one experiment can be, alter the script to compress with xz
15:11 schestowitz-TR; after a week or so test all the backups
15:11 schestowitz-TR; the syntax for xz is the same as .gz
15:12 schestowitz-TR; this would:
15:12 schestowitz-TR; 1) help us get better backups
15:12 schestowitz-TR; 2) help us pin-point the issue
15:12 schestowitz-TR; 3) leave us with scripts that offer several compression options
15:12 schestowitz-TR; (some of these scripts are over 10 years old)
15:25 schestowitz-TR; Just chatted with Rianne about this
15:25 schestowitz-TR; and explained to her the situation
15:25 schestowitz-TR; inc. OS upgrade
15:25 schestowitz-TR; minutes ago I finished other links+combined
15:25 schestowitz-TR; so I will focus on Daily Links today, videos and posts not a priority
15:25 schestowitz-TR; I plan to check this evening's backup
15:25 schestowitz-TR; With the sites doing 8/hits second and Gemini running OK I am not too worried
15:25 schestowitz-TR; about focusing on new leaks
15:25 schestowitz-TR; and IRC is budy regardless
15:25 schestowitz-TR; *busy
15:25 schestowitz-TR; not much trolling lately, which is better than budy and disruptive
15:25 schestowitz-TR; *busy
15:25 schestowitz-TR; the irc network has also been adopted by other projects, such as decloudflare
15:25 schestowitz-TR; (not logged)
15:25 schestowitz-TR; so there are parallel efforts in one place, with commonalities
15:25 Techrights-sec; ack
15:25 Techrights-sec; I wonder about automation. Verification of proper compression ouught to
15:25 Techrights-sec; be possible but I don't like the idea of working around errors of unknown
15:25 Techrights-sec; cause
15:25 Techrights-sec; excellent that IRC is improving
15:25 Techrights-sec; excellent. cloudflare is a bigger problem than most people who are even aware
15:25 Techrights-sec; of cloudflare usually know
15:25 Techrights-sec; and there are relatively few that are aware even of cloudflare
15:25 Techrights-sec; any idea how hard it is to set up BigBlueButton on a RPi?
15:27 schestowitz-TR; We set that up at work like 7 years ago
15:27 schestowitz-TR; I was not involved in thgat project
15:27 schestowitz-TR; I saw the link aboput Moodle and BBB
15:27 schestowitz-TR; FSF used MNumble and BBB
15:27 schestowitz-TR; as noted in the RMS talk, which also used outsourced IRC
15:27 Techrights-sec; I hope it is easier now.
15:29 schestowitz-TR; We used openfire a lot (jabber)
15:29 schestowitz-TR; before the idiots like sarin and The Liar came
15:29 schestowitz-TR; and decided that it wasn't "clown" enough
15:29 schestowitz-TR; and maybe tougher to 'police'
15:29 schestowitz-TR; the management brought the jabber server down at least once if not twice
15:29 schestowitz-TR; based on false protexts
15:29 schestowitz-TR; to thwart the possibility of stuff chating/uniting
15:29 schestowitz-TR; *staff
15:31 Techrights-sec; yes that's a main reason that "Slack" is pushed on workers, all communicatins
15:31 Techrights-sec; even "private" ones are logged and available for perusal by management
15:31 Techrights-sec; I figure "Slack" rode in on the name confusion with Slackware. Managers were
15:31 Techrights-sec; recipients of targeted marketing for "Slack" and asked their technical staff
15:31 Techrights-sec; what they though of "Slack". Thinking that the managers meand Slacware,
15:31 Techrights-sec; the answer was "great". Or at least that's one scenario.
15:31 schestowitz-TR; In tuxmachines there is atill a "Slack" category
15:31 schestowitz-TR; but it's about the distro
15:32 Techrights-sec;
15:32 Techrights-sec; It was always about the distro until a few years ago when
15:32 Techrights-sec; some garbage proprietary surveillanceware rode in over the name
15:32 Techrights-sec; and no trademark dispute was made
15:33 schestowitz-TR; it would be hard to win
15:33 schestowitz-TR; 1) generic dictionary word
15:33 schestowitz-TR; 2) not a distro
15:34 schestowitz-TR; 3) I forgot.... never mind lack of registration, but there was another basis I had in mind, doesn't matter, this is just IRC
15:34 Techrights-sec; Well the garbage proprietary surveillanceware did use a name based on
15:34 Techrights-sec; it
15:34 Techrights-sec; 2) it's a "technical
15:34 Techrights-sec; " thing and thus confusion among managers. However, being able to monitor
15:34 Techrights-sec; all communication via the surveillanceware was probably the main selling
15:34 Techrights-sec; point
15:36 schestowitz-TR; I think you 'downplay' this piece of malware
15:36 schestowitz-TR; it tracks a lot more than conversation
15:36 schestowitz-TR; and Microsoft rode the tails of it, turning Skype for Business into "productivity-measuring" malware (Team)
15:36 schestowitz-TR; now trying to bundle this malware
15:36 schestowitz-TR; with highly notorious practices that the pandemic helped to normalise
15:36 schestowitz-TR; *Teams
15:38 Techrights-sec; M$ tries to bundle its own malware with anything it can get away with
15:38 Techrights-sec; The host may not survive the paracitism though.
15:38 Techrights-sec; Most companies rarely survive partnerships with M$ for very long
15:38 schestowitz-TR; watch out, Sam! ;-)
15:39 Techrights-sec; yep
15:39 Techrights-sec; I would like to be wrong but both his employment and his employer are not long
15:39 Techrights-sec; for the world. He'd be wise to polish his resume, but there are so few
15:39 Techrights-sec; workplaces to consider any more.
15:40 schestowitz-TR; it looked like his name was "borrowed" for puff pieces disguised as articles
15:40 schestowitz-TR; which made his RSS fedd intolerable to me
15:40 schestowitz-TR; whereupon it was just dropped
15:40 schestowitz-TR; too long to scoop up his real articles
15:40 schestowitz-TR; the webspam outnumbered those
17:01 schestowitz-TR; ota
17:01 schestowitz-TR; new epo doc
17:01 schestowitz-TR; COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Conti
17:01 schestowitz-TR; nues to Climb http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/21/over-600-deaths/
17:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Numbers in the UK Havent Fallen, Testing Has Fallen (Hiding the Problem) to Lowest Levels in 1.5 Years and Death Toll Continues to Climb
17:22 schestowitz-TR; draft
18:04 schestowitz-TR; it is always important to know where one stands
18:04 schestowitz-TR; even when it nois not convenient
18:04 schestowitz-TR; self-deluding mindset is a ticking time bomb
18:04 schestowitz-TR; being cynical about onself and about life is healthy
18:04 schestowitz-TR; humour is a coping mechanism
18:04 schestowitz-TR; (there is nothing funny about a plague though)
18:04 schestowitz-TR; speaking of humour, i've made a yo dawg meme
18:04 schestowitz-TR; let's see if it gets deleted ;-=)
18:04 schestowitz-TR; I've added a draft about gemini, very short
18:04 Techrights-sec; The "Yo Dawg" meme usually involves some kind of obvious reference to
18:04 Techrights-sec; recursion
18:08 schestowitz-TR; Yes, but I could not think of something in a someting in this context
18:08 schestowitz-TR; my energy provider is the same. rianne watched part of the video I made yesterday. I also added 3
18:08 schestowitz-TR; more messages to my blog post afterward.
18:08 schestowitz-TR; Charge more, do less.
18:08 schestowitz-TR; Before the "successful bankruptcy"
18:08 schestowitz-TR; I told him,
18:08 schestowitz-TR; businesses come and go
18:08 schestowitz-TR; and you woulg go faster if you treat clients like this
18:08 schestowitz-TR; banks are the same
18:08 schestowitz-TR; at this point they do very little
18:08 schestowitz-TR; some4 excist only on paper or some aws 'account'
18:08 schestowitz-TR; but still, I'd rather put money there than in fakecoints
18:08 schestowitz-TR; or perishable items that lose value very fast
18:23 Techrights-sec; ok
18:23 Techrights-sec; ack
18:23 Techrights-sec; you'll note that almost all the cryptocurrency aritlces for daily links
18:23 Techrights-sec; fall under the Energy category, because they do nothig more than was
18:23 Techrights-sec; electricity and emit fossil carbon
18:25 schestowitz-TR; for a few years I was a bit sympathetic but abundantly hesitant to consider those myself
18:25 schestowitz-TR; in recent years perception shifted not because of FUD
18:25 schestowitz-TR; but because the cost of "minting" this shit (so-called 'mining') became rather
18:25 schestowitz-TR; ludicrous
18:25 schestowitz-TR; plus, too many out there, plus NFT-like BS
18:25 schestowitz-TR; didn't live up to the promise, created many charalatans though
18:25 schestowitz-TR; "bros";
18:32 Techrights-sec; I made the choice in 2009 not to participate in what was already then a
18:32 Techrights-sec; massive waste of electricity; furthermore, there is a limited and small
18:32 Techrights-sec; number of bitcoins *and* the transaction cost in time, money, and electricty
18:32 Techrights-sec; is so high as it has no value as a currency even for large transactions
18:32 Techrights-sec; there was no promise.
18:32 Techrights-sec; some charlatans found satoshi's leftove notes in the trash at the end of
18:32 Techrights-sec; his experiment and have been running with it ever since
18:32 Techrights-sec; https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-wallet-b2045846.html
18:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Bitcoin from Satoshi-era wallet suddenly activates after 11 years | The Independent
18:32 schestowitz-TR; craig wright epitomises the type
18:32 schestowitz-TR; and even alex graveyley
18:33 schestowitz-TR; people "worth" $200 MILLION and living with dad, having to rent a car and staying at the gf's home
18:38 schestowitz-TR; IME, some people lack patience and instead of work work for many years they seek a get-rich-fast
18:38 schestowitz-TR; method
18:38 schestowitz-TR; my dad noticed the sake
18:38 schestowitz-TR; so they reach out to high risk all all-risk stuff
18:38 schestowitz-TR; like exchanging the little money they do earn into some dubious crap
18:38 schestowitz-TR; on the net, a SHOCKING number of fakecoin sites exist and have entered gulag noise
18:38 schestowitz-TR; I see them all the time
18:38 schestowitz-TR; they seem to be preying on those
18:38 schestowitz-TR; the only way to grow the value of the scheme is to add more people to it
18:38 Techrights-sec; yes, seen that
18:38 Techrights-sec; ponzi scheme or pyramid scheme
18:40 schestowitz-TR; NFT seems like the sake old scam
18:40 schestowitz-TR; with alluring graphics instead of fake (fictoon) coin being presented as some shiny golden coin with a B
18:40 schestowitz-TR; with two lines going through it
18:40 Techrights-sec; NFT is bizarre, one can see that there is no resale value
18:41 activelow; https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-says-he-has-465-billion-for-twitter-takeover-bid/a-61547494
18:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Elon Musk says he has $46.5 billion for Twitter takeover bid | News | DW | 21.04.2022
18:46 schestowitz-TR; NFt 4 LSD
18:46 Techrights-sec; https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkp9wg/leaked-shill-price-list-shows-wild-world-of-crypto-promos
18:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.vice.com | Leaked Shill Price List Shows Wild World of Crypto Promos
18:47 Techrights-sec; Ha. I would like for both of them to lose. Twitter is overdue for closure
18:47 Techrights-sec; and or bankruptcy
18:47 Techrights-sec; one downside of a purchase would be that there would be an infusion of money
18:50 schestowitz-TR; You know, I was thinking earlier today or yesterday
18:50 schestowitz-TR; with offers like these, which might not even be legally binding (can be PR stunts)
18:50 schestowitz-TR; there is a lot of potential for
18:50 schestowitz-TR; 1) buy share in twitter
18:50 schestowitz-TR; 2) offer to buy
18:50 schestowitz-TR; 3) sell shares you've just games
18:50 schestowitz-TR; knowing that
18:50 schestowitz-TR; 4) you would walk away, claiming to have been inslted or somethin
18:50 schestowitz-TR; where would SEC BE!?
18:50 schestowitz-TR; This is a modus operandi we did see in the past
18:50 schestowitz-TR; the mobsters can't be blind to it
18:50 schestowitz-TR; he built empires of fake valuations, based on nothing but lies
19:02 Techrights-sec; lies and, well, more lies
19:07 schestowitz-TR; the fun thing about frauds and charlatans is,
19:07 schestowitz-TR; they're usually on borrowed time
19:07 schestowitz-TR; among the banksters, they are very "senior" (old)
19:07 schestowitz-TR; so sooner or later you get to see their sandcastles collapsing
19:07 schestowitz-TR; sometimes they even take their own life before they reach what's left of it
19:07 schestowitz-TR; "well, he's dead"
19:07 schestowitz-TR; so you go back, minding your own business
19:07 schestowitz-TR; not relying on schemes, loans, and a chain of lies so complex (a web)
19:07 schestowitz-TR; that you cannot keep up with it
19:07 schestowitz-TR; and then you become king of freenode, a kingdom of nobody
19:08 Techrights-sec; Not necessarily all on borrowed time, some stay half a step of the tar and
19:08 Techrights-sec; feathers. Others simply pass the torch and another fraud picks up as the
19:08 Techrights-sec; previous one gets run out of town on a rail.
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19:35 schestowitz-TR; mind if we use this approach
19:35 schestowitz-TR; after gz is made
19:35 schestowitz-TR; run gunzip -t $file
19:35 schestowitz-TR; I just have, for evening TM dump
19:35 schestowitz-TR; it's OK
19:35 schestowitz-TR; then, if there is output, create or add to file
19:35 schestowitz-TR; this operation seems to be a lot faster than actually extracting
19:35 schestowitz-TR; I don't think we have that in git, so I will write directly on the server
19:35 schestowitz-TR; I am starting with a test line for the drupal dump alone
19:35 schestowitz-TR; will add more if it works as expected
19:35 Techrights-sec; ack
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