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beginning of new day, September 20

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4 AM, September 20

04:04 Techrights-sec2; """

04:04 Techrights-sec2; news.tuxmachines.org uses an invalid security certificate.

04:04 Techrights-sec2; The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.

04:04 Techrights-sec2; Error code: MOZILLA_PKIX_ERROR_SELF_SIGNED_CERT

04:04 Techrights-sec2; """

04:04 Techrights-sec2; or so say Firefox :(

04:04 Techrights-sec2; The certificate is fine, the problem lies with Mozilla

04:05 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla's CSO

04:05 schestowitz-TR; no relevant experience

04:09 *Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).

04:10 *Now talking on #boycottnovell

04:10 *Topic for #boycottnovell is: TechRights.org | Channel #boycottnovell for http://TechRights.org | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those who oppose software freedom :: please also join channels #techrights and #boycottnovell-social

↺ http://TechRights.org

04:10 *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz!~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc at Tue Jun 1 20:22:10 2021

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04:21 schestowitz-TR; the servers were restarted/rebooted

04:21 schestowitz-TR; I was not aware of such a thing being planned

04:21 schestowitz-TR; gmnisrv did not automatically start on tm-new

04:21 schestowitz-TR; I had to restart it manually with

04:21 schestowitz-TR; rc-service gmnisrv restart

04:21 schestowitz-TR; do you know how to set that to auto-start?

04:22 schestowitz-TR; the firewall and logs tmux sessions are now gone, too

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04:25 Techrights-sec; checking

04:37 Techrights-sec; the tmux sessions were started manually

04:37 Techrights-sec; an open-rc script can be made instead

04:37 Techrights-sec; rc-update add gmnisrv

04:37 Techrights-sec; shoud have done it; mosquitto seemsto have started

04:37 Techrights-sec; The basic firewall (NFT) is active upon reboot

04:37 schestowitz-TR; just chasing other things that now need fixing after the reboot

04:37 schestowitz-TR; brb

04:41 Techrights-sec; why was there a reboot? which package update required the reboot?

04:42 schestowitz-TR; I don't know, but it looks like hv was restarted around 4am here

04:42 schestowitz-TR; at least it gives us a chance to see what needs manual intevention

04:56 schestowitz-TR;

04:56 schestowitz-TR; mystery not solved

04:56 schestowitz-TR; at around 2:50 the bulletin was uploaded

04:56 schestowitz-TR; it went ok to txt

04:56 schestowitz-TR; but not to the persistent URL rather than /txt

04:56 schestowitz-TR; the logs do not show an issue

04:56 schestowitz-TR; but based on irc the file did not get passed

04:56 schestowitz-TR; I've just uploaded it manually

04:56 schestowitz-TR; it was a large file

04:56 schestowitz-TR; but this is the first time it happens

04:56 schestowitz-TR; not related to the reboot

04:56 schestowitz-TR; a long time before that

04:56 schestowitz-TR; ok, after almost an hour I think everything is back in order

04:56 schestowitz-TR; at least these reboots are very rare

04:56 schestowitz-TR; and we did not lose anything in logs etc.


5 AM, September 20

05:03 Techrights-sec; ack

05:11 schestowitz-TR; ok, i think I see further evidence of the upload error

05:11 schestowitz-TR; i will do two manual sanity checks tomorrow morning

05:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe a small network glitch

05:11 schestowitz-TR; and the bulletin being 1.5mb in size makes it more likely to time out

05:11 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather spend an hour checking and checking

05:11 schestowitz-TR; then overlook some issue, as it might happen again

05:11 schestowitz-TR; today i will (again, as usual lately) need some topics to cover

05:11 schestowitz-TR; I find things to put in Daily Links, TM etc.

05:11 schestowitz-TR; but a lot is bland

05:11 schestowitz-TR; like release announcements

05:11 schestowitz-TR; no real analysis of things


7 AM, September 20

07:08 schestowitz-TR; 07:00] <schestowitz> "I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that Dave came up with perfect response to the other blog post"

07:08 schestowitz-TR; [07:00] <schestowitz> the perl link is wrong

07:08 schestowitz-TR; [07:00] <schestowitz> it links to npr

07:08 schestowitz-TR; [07:00] <schestowitz> I cannot find it using Gulag Search

07:08 Techrights-sec; checking

07:08 Techrights-sec; fixed

07:08 schestowitz-TR; can you paste the url here?

07:08 schestowitz-TR; just the url? i need it for a cluster about raku

07:13 Techrights-sec; By the way, what caused the reboot? I missed the advanced notice?

07:14 schestowitz-TR; there was no notice

07:14 schestowitz-TR; good thing I woke up just before that happened and was able to respond

07:18 Techrights-sec; Then what might have been the cause?

07:18 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather not ask as it is rare and I don't want to bother kaniini

07:28 Techrights-sec; The hv logs have the same problem as the other Alpine logs, that the

07:28 Techrights-sec; authorization was piled into the main logs and then bury any relevant

07:28 Techrights-sec; information.

07:29 schestowitz-TR; after the reboot I noticed that ergoirc scrollback/history does not go further back then the reboot

07:29 schestowitz-TR; *than

07:34 schestowitz-TR; sooner or later a reboot will happen

07:34 schestowitz-TR; currently it runs the kernel it booted into

07:34 schestowitz-TR; if we encounter issues, we can reboot again

07:34 schestowitz-TR; so far no issues seen/felt

07:34 schestowitz-TR; brb too many things going on at once

07:34 schestowitz-TR; and I am on shift

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8 AM, September 20

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08:11 schestowitz-TR; one more hour, then I am free for 2 days

08:11 schestowitz-TR; I am prioritising TM links at the moment, then Daily Links

08:11 schestowitz-TR; speed matters

08:11 schestowitz-TR; epo admin council meeting coming soon

08:11 schestowitz-TR; for maximal impact the series needs to be timed correctly

08:11 schestowitz-TR; i have tons of github material

08:11 schestowitz-TR; it does not feel like enough sites speak about the issues with github

08:11 schestowitz-TR; some kernel hackers contact me

08:12 schestowitz-TR; they know github is an attack on git

08:12 schestowitz-TR; some people complain about LF too

08:12 schestowitz-TR; but not openly

08:12 schestowitz-TR; you have just uploaded other-links for 21-09 by accident

08:20 Techrights-sec; ok

08:22 schestowitz-TR; I am going to revise my workflow to improve efficiency

08:22 schestowitz-TR; I need to identify what routine tasks I do that can either be dropped or automated

08:36 Techrights-sec; The "CoC" prevents them from publicly criticizing M$ and by extension M$ GitHub

08:36 schestowitz-TR; that's "hate"

08:36 schestowitz-TR; and hate leads to violence

08:38 Techrights-sec; "words" are "violence" || words "are" violence

08:38 Techrights-sec; according that mob

08:38 Techrights-sec; wars are big business, which is why acusations of "hate" are *very* selectively

08:38 Techrights-sec; applied

08:39 schestowitz-TR; wars are business

08:39 schestowitz-TR; better not interfere

08:39 schestowitz-TR; "shut up, you are getting paid" -ECMA

08:39 schestowitz-TR; tso: iraq war bush yada yada rape stastics

08:39 schestowitz-TR; brigade: wait, what did you say about rape?

08:39 Techrights-sec; Note that JKRowling was punching hard in politics right before she got

08:39 Techrights-sec; brigaded by the misogynists

08:41 schestowitz-TR; from what I have reading, writing about that other topic was the fruits of provocation

08:41 schestowitz-TR; basically steering the target into the trap

08:41 schestowitz-TR; like interjecting that stuff into IRC channels

08:41 schestowitz-TR; self-fulfilling prophecy

08:41 schestowitz-TR; as someone will say something

08:41 Techrights-sec; https://www.reuters.com/article/us-warcrimes-usa-idUSKBN1392OI

↺ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-warcrimes-usa-idUSKBN1392OI

08:41 Techrights-sec; https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html

↺ https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/0213/p05s01-woeu.html

08:41 Techrights-sec; yes they bait targets

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Hague prosecutors say U.S. forces may have committed war crimes | Reuters

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Dutch still wincing at Bush-era 'Invasion of The Hague Act' - CSMonitor.com

08:43 schestowitz-TR; somehow all the chiefs in linux kernel (original people) are extremely "rude"

08:43 schestowitz-TR; and the same goes for everyone ever involved in wikileaks

08:43 schestowitz-TR; or...

08:43 schestowitz-TR; maybe the narrative shift is at fault

08:43 schestowitz-TR; CEOs of companies that attack Linux have said and done far worse

08:43 Techrights-sec; https://www.abc-clio.com/products/c8109c/

↺ https://www.abc-clio.com/products/c8109c/

08:43 schestowitz-TR; the media loves them

08:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-George W. Bush, War Criminal? The Bush Administration's Liability for 269 War Crimes ABC-CLIO

08:45 schestowitz-TR; buddy of bill gates

08:45 schestowitz-TR; just like jeff epstein

08:45 schestowitz-TR; not a word from the brigades

08:45 schestowitz-TR; ryan the poor man from IL is far more relevant to the bigger picture than billg is

08:45 Techrights-sec; ack

08:47 schestowitz-TR; the irc log from yesterday was long, full of typos, even trolling

08:47 schestowitz-TR; but in between there was some relevant material as well

08:47 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if the bulletin being 1.5 mb touched some threshold, which is why one file did not get uploaded

08:47 schestowitz-TR; this is 100% not related to the downtime

08:47 schestowitz-TR; but my nroutine checks caught the problem

08:47 schestowitz-TR; so now I lack confidence in the process until some further sanity checks

08:47 schestowitz-TR; with today's IRC logs I'll double check files' presense also

08:48 Techrights-sec; ack


9 AM, September 20

09:13 schestowitz-TR; free from work now

09:13 schestowitz-TR; so less pressure/stress

09:13 schestowitz-TR; in case someone fiddles with with short tempers

09:21 Techrights-sec; ack

09:22 schestowitz-TR; priority #1: relay and organise news, and fast

09:22 schestowitz-TR; priority z (last): respond to people who try to interfere with #1

09:22 schestowitz-TR; (one needs to properly understand the issues to do it sensibly, not like a bot/drone/LF shill)

09:25 Techrights-sec; ack

09:25 schestowitz-TR; the occasional editorial comments and editorial picks (omissions of falsehoods) can help a lot

09:25 schestowitz-TR; even if now drawning many replies

09:25 schestowitz-TR; itsfoss is run by one or two clueless people with a nose for money

09:25 schestowitz-TR; rianne keeps complaining about them more than I do

09:25 Techrights-sec; clueless on purpose or by accident

09:25 Techrights-sec; ?

09:28 schestowitz-TR; some people, when faced with prospect of a quick buck, can deceive themselves

09:28 schestowitz-TR; and that cannot be easily distinguished from dishonesty

09:28 schestowitz-TR; for a few weeks christine did a trivia experiment at fossforce

09:28 schestowitz-TR; seems to have stopped

09:28 schestowitz-TR; not sure what to do with that domain

09:28 schestowitz-TR; for a few years it was 'on loan' to bbyfield

09:28 schestowitz-TR; of course he mostly attacked the FS movement

09:28 schestowitz-TR; concern-trolling it

09:28 schestowitz-TR; now that site is donning endorsements for LF

09:29 schestowitz-TR; for diploma mills

09:29 schestowitz-TR; just years after christine blasted LF

09:29 schestowitz-TR; LF has only gotten more sinister since then

09:29 schestowitz-TR; spamnil, sjvn and chums know where the $ is

09:29 schestowitz-TR; you can even get paid for videos that get just 10 views

09:29 schestowitz-TR; then spend the money buying clickfraud

09:30 Techrights-sec; ack

09:30 Techrights-sec; so. clueless on purpose, it would seem

09:33 schestowitz-TR; saying this out in the open makes oneself more enemies than necessary

09:33 schestowitz-TR; but for informal irc discussion I think it's OK

09:33 schestowitz-TR; christine was hurt by some things figosdev wrote

09:34 schestowitz-TR; (in the site)

09:34 schestowitz-TR; re clueless on purpose

09:34 schestowitz-TR; that's a comedy-centric term

09:34 schestowitz-TR; it is contradictoty within its own contaxt

09:34 schestowitz-TR; because if you do it on purpose you are not clueless

09:34 schestowitz-TR; itsfoss is mostly 2 people

09:34 schestowitz-TR; I know them, they asked me for TM account

09:34 schestowitz-TR; they don't live in a rich country

09:34 schestowitz-TR; and they have some guest writers

09:34 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to hurt them

09:34 schestowitz-TR; btw, mjg, who reads this (in irc)

09:34 schestowitz-TR; is a clever person

09:34 schestowitz-TR; well educated

09:34 schestowitz-TR; he too knows that he's full of BS sometimes

09:34 schestowitz-TR; but he is buoyed by $

09:34 schestowitz-TR; maybe one day he'll relent

09:34 Techrights-sec; well-educated at least but short on judgement

09:34 Techrights-sec; or recant

09:34 Techrights-sec; or repent

09:34 Techrights-sec; but first when the money runs out he'll relent

09:36 schestowitz-TR; when people become insecure due to lack of sometthing

09:36 schestowitz-TR; they fall back on or compensate with $

09:36 schestowitz-TR; "look how much I made"

09:36 schestowitz-TR; I can guess what was lacking

09:36 schestowitz-TR; but guessing is not good when you're assessed on accuracy

09:36 schestowitz-TR; so I keep speculation to myself

09:36 schestowitz-TR; it's the same with Graveley

09:36 schestowitz-TR; a weirdo, a freak, a mental case

09:36 schestowitz-TR; even de icaza acknowledged as such

09:36 Techrights-sec; ack

09:39 schestowitz-TR; microsoft is prince andrew

09:39 schestowitz-TR; I am the guy who shouters from the crowd

09:39 schestowitz-TR; mjg is the cop

09:39 schestowitz-TR; doing the dirty work for andrew

09:39 schestowitz-TR; by arresting the person who calls him out

09:39 schestowitz-TR; (I assume you saw the videos by now)

09:46 Techrights-sec; nope but I have read about cops roughing up anyone in the crowd there who

09:46 Techrights-sec; has spoken up about "no kings" or similar

09:46 Techrights-sec; Too bad much of the press and most of the politicians are fed by MBS' own

09:46 Techrights-sec; Twitter Inc which modifies the discourse by boosting or suppressing specific

09:46 Techrights-sec; tags or catchphrases.

09:46 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=niKzVnaoK5s

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=niKzVnaoK5s

09:46 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9YSie19OACI

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9YSie19OACI

09:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | 'Andrew, you're a sick man': police drag heckler from crowd during Queen's procession - Invidious

09:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Man Calls Prince Andrew 'Sick Old Man' During Royal Procession - Invidious

09:49 schestowitz-TR; you can be sure cops anmd spies will dig up any dirt gchq can find on him

09:49 schestowitz-TR; to shiuft the narrative

09:49 schestowitz-TR; and maybe justify the treatment he received

09:49 schestowitz-TR; distracting from the treatment "Andrew" gave women

09:49 schestowitz-TR; inc. exes

09:49 schestowitz-TR; like the man who films the mureder of eric garner

09:49 schestowitz-TR; and was later arrested

09:49 schestowitz-TR; then died

09:49 schestowitz-TR; like the daughter of eric garner

09:49 schestowitz-TR; "well, he's dead"

09:49 Techrights-sec; ack

09:49 Techrights-sec; The cops suppress criticism because it could lead to criticism of Bill

09:49 Techrights-sec; yep

09:50 schestowitz-TR; crticism is "hate

09:50 schestowitz-TR; if you go to a football game and hold up a sign against Newcastle United being owned by a terror family

09:50 schestowitz-TR; they will detain you, not the saudis

09:50 schestowitz-TR; and this is how the terms of in the laws (not just "hate") are misused

09:51 schestowitz-TR; [19:37] <techrights-news> Today a young Brit will face a royal CoC (Code of Conduct). "Andrew" the 'prince' can screw girls, but you only face charges for shouting at "Andrew" the 'prince' for screwing girls...

09:51 schestowitz-TR; [19:39] <techrights-news> In a similar vein, in FOSS/tech the CoC is protecting vulnerable minorities such as Google and Microsoft... from people who 'HECKLE' them over their war crimes, corruption etc.

09:56 schestowitz-TR; erica garner died from bad health

09:56 schestowitz-TR; ntohign to indicate otherwise

09:56 schestowitz-TR; obese, too

09:56 schestowitz-TR; but...

09:57 schestowitz-TR; she had become a MASSIVE liaibility to cops and the left left

09:57 schestowitz-TR; she responded to leaks about Clinton

09:57 schestowitz-TR; and had MASSIVE following online

09:57 schestowitz-TR; condemned cops and the system regaulardly

09:57 schestowitz-TR; so her death was not only tragic (she was young)

09:57 schestowitz-TR; also an epic loss

09:57 schestowitz-TR; she would blast HRC for her racism

09:57 schestowitz-TR; based on leaks

09:57 schestowitz-TR; democracynow had her on many times, iirc

09:57 schestowitz-TR; she was young

09:57 schestowitz-TR; amy goodman and others are old

09:57 schestowitz-TR; like chomsky, the state can just wait patiently for them to die naturally

09:57 schestowitz-TR; assange was "too young"

09:57 schestowitz-TR; his father is still very active and in high spirits

09:57 schestowitz-TR; assange is also widely recognise

09:57 schestowitz-TR; like some harry potter author

09:57 schestowitz-TR; so there are hounds taking down their images

09:57 schestowitz-TR; even tearing down recognition symbolc

09:57 schestowitz-TR; like murals, medals, statues, faculties, articles

09:57 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia is one form of sabotage

09:57 schestowitz-TR; I've mostly stopped linking to wikipedia if I can avoid it

09:58 mjg59_; tbf assange is a rapist

09:58 mjg59_; So criticism there is pretty justifiable


10 AM, September 20

10:00 Techrights-sec; Wikipedia is mostly just corporate marketeering and paid squatters

10:00 schestowitz-TR; I saw people wasting a lot of time trying to correct it

10:00 schestowitz-TR; it's pointless

10:01 schestowitz-TR; or trying to correct corrupt publishers

10:01 schestowitz-TR; it's like trying to draw blood from a rock

10:01 schestowitz-TR; it might yield something at the end

10:01 schestowitz-TR; but low return on effort

10:01 schestowitz-TR; same with trying to persuade "the media" to cover EPO crimes

10:11 schestowitz-TR; this is a type Z priority

10:11 schestowitz-TR; distracts from priority #1

10:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe that's its goal

10:11 schestowitz-TR; wearing off mentally

10:13 schestowitz-TR; I could use some timely topics to cover

10:13 schestowitz-TR; i thought of aq few yesterday

10:13 schestowitz-TR; but changed my mind

10:13 schestowitz-TR; like sfc

10:13 schestowitz-TR; it's not too clear what goes on behind the scenes

10:13 schestowitz-TR; based on the message from zoe kooyman, they are fighting over stewardship

10:13 schestowitz-TR; iow, sfc wants to outgrow FSF and take over its revenue sources

10:13 schestowitz-TR; i.e. similar to what fsfe SANS Georg Greve is trying to do

10:15 Techrights-sec; The topic of libel?

10:15 Techrights-sec; Check the recent video from Nick regarding the abuse of control over browser

10:15 Techrights-sec; extensions. Some real trouble will be enabled by those changes.

10:15 Techrights-sec; https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/how-google-is-killing-your-ad-blockers:b

↺ https://odysee.com/@TheLinuxExperiment:e/how-google-is-killing-your-ad-blockers:b

10:15 Techrights-sec; There might be a written source to point to instead

10:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | How Google is KILLING your AD BLOCKERS and tracker blockers with Manifest v3

10:15 Techrights-sec; https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blocker

↺ https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blocker

10:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.itworldcanada.com | Googles manifest V3 rules restrict AdGuards new ad blocker - IT World Canada

10:17 schestowitz-TR; I liked to Nick's video twice

10:17 schestowitz-TR; from two sources

10:17 schestowitz-TR; you know which 2

10:17 schestowitz-TR; I am not too sympathetic to nick himself as his videos are littered with ads

10:17 schestowitz-TR; and he even does fake reviews and gift-shilling

10:17 schestowitz-TR; which is why youtube took action against him (again, selectively; gulag doesn't like real linux)

10:17 schestowitz-TR; *linked to

10:17 schestowitz-TR; there are already written articles on this topic

10:17 schestowitz-TR; I did not watch nick's video

10:17 schestowitz-TR; so it would not cover something truly new

10:17 schestowitz-TR; gulag needs to be eradicated

10:17 schestowitz-TR; but less urgently than Microsoft

10:17 schestowitz-TR; but it's not a serial task

10:17 schestowitz-TR; you can do both at the same time if more people join in and make a wave of negative publiciyy

10:19 Techrights-sec; https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blocker

↺ https://www.itworldcanada.com/post/googles-manifest-v3-rules-restrict-adguards-new-ad-blocker

10:19 Techrights-sec; Yes, the shilling is a barrier but he provides timestamps to hop over easily

10:19 Techrights-sec; enough

10:19 Techrights-sec; M$ has been able to agitate politicians and, to a lessr extent, the public

10:19 Techrights-sec; against Google / Alphabet. The attention is well-earned but due to very

10:19 Techrights-sec; restricted resources, that takes the political and legal heat entirely off of

10:19 Techrights-sec; m$ in regards to scrutiny over anti-competitive practices and monopoly abuse.

10:22 schestowitz-TR; you said nick isolates the ad parts

10:22 schestowitz-TR; not sure if this is noticed, but when i use invidious in TM I add the ?t=[marker] to help people skip past the cruft if possible

10:22 schestowitz-TR; i think it also makes the videos a little more accessible

10:22 schestowitz-TR; if I need to make the videos more narrow by default, that can easily be done

10:22 schestowitz-TR; I don't think I can specify width in %

10:22 schestowitz-TR; not for those kids of elements

10:22 schestowitz-TR; i think it's iframe

10:22 schestowitz-TR; with a canvas for <video>

10:22 schestowitz-TR; i think the hard part is adjusting height, based on aspect ratio

10:22 schestowitz-TR; there must be a way

10:22 schestowitz-TR; but I am not sure

10:29 schestowitz-TR; looking into it

10:29 schestowitz-TR; may take time, as I need to find video and then test in many settings/browsers

10:29 schestowitz-TR; another issue is, iframe width might be specified for whole page/browser of just one div

10:29 schestowitz-TR; and different clients may handle it differentlyt

10:29 schestowitz-TR; additional issue: if the browser is rescaled, can the video too be rescaled on the fly?

10:29 schestowitz-TR; don't know how different formats do this

10:29 schestowitz-TR; noody knows if proprioetary format with intentional complexcity for more swpats

10:29 schestowitz-TR; but experience suggests that with videos, they specify fixed pixel scale

10:29 schestowitz-TR; and then just stick with it

10:29 schestowitz-TR; nothing 'fluid'

10:32 schestowitz-TR; to avoid making a mess in vivo at TM I will do some tests in schestowitz.com/Weblgo in vitro

10:32 schestowitz-TR; bbiab

10:41 schestowitz-TR; OK, seems like the issue is, iframe cannot have height specified in %

10:41 schestowitz-TR; at least not in librewolf (gecko)

10:41 schestowitz-TR; that's why it's sensible to specify absolute size for video dimensions

10:41 Techrights-sec; Is there a way to avoid iframes ?

10:42 schestowitz-TR; no, not with indivious

10:42 Techrights-sec; :(

10:42 schestowitz-TR; no matter which invidious instance is used

10:53 schestowitz-TR; testing some css changes to iframe

10:53 schestowitz-TR; see what I wrote last night after checking the stats on diaspora and fedivrse

10:53 schestowitz-TR; I did not check peertube and others

10:53 schestowitz-TR; it's going down anyway

10:53 schestowitz-TR; if you mimic shit you go down with the S.H.I.T. boat

10:53 schestowitz-TR; TM is still very light and fast

10:53 schestowitz-TR; I've not make css changes yet

10:53 schestowitz-TR; I test locally

10:53 Techrights-sec; The Freedom-oriented services emulate the anti-user maneuvers of the others.

10:53 Techrights-sec; Notice that usability is out and even Free software is becoming oriented

10:53 Techrights-sec; towards 'engagement' also known as inefficiency and time-wasting.

10:53 Techrights-sec; checking

10:53 Techrights-sec; which title from last night?

10:54 schestowitz-TR; it was in irc, circa 9pm

10:54 schestowitz-TR; I thought about doing an article

10:54 schestowitz-TR; and said it would be like "bashing" FOSS alternatives

10:54 schestowitz-TR; so didn't take screenshots

10:56 Techrights-sec; gemini.techrights.org/2022/09/19/sfc-salaries/ ?

10:58 schestowitz-TR; this reminds me today's task is to identify what condumes time

10:58 schestowitz-TR; and cut that off or automate

10:58 schestowitz-TR; so I can write more and longer posts

10:58 schestowitz-TR; btw, as I page through TM I see it's like turning the page of a book

10:58 schestowitz-TR; very fast

10:58 schestowitz-TR; even on low bw connection

10:58 schestowitz-TR; as there is very little to load both at the front and back end

10:58 schestowitz-TR; it's a nifty design that's akin to newspaper

10:58 schestowitz-TR; no infitine scroll with JS

10:58 schestowitz-TR; I was lookng for videos

10:59 Techrights-sec; Nice. The speed is another benefit.

10:59 Techrights-sec; Another disadvantage from our perspective, but advantage from the other camp,

10:59 Techrights-sec; for infinite scroll is the inability bookmark or even re-find material.

10:59 Techrights-sec; There are a lot of interests with money which wish for the ability to cite

10:59 Techrights-sec; material to be eliminate, from what I observe.


11 AM, September 20

11:01 schestowitz-TR; I'[ve long argued, in public maybe a dozen times, that social control media has the shelf life of a pieced apple

11:01 schestowitz-TR; within an hour it's already "old"

11:01 schestowitz-TR; within a day it's as good as "Deleted"

11:01 schestowitz-TR; nobody will ever find or read or share it

11:01 schestowitz-TR; even when you know what you are searching for it's something you're under-utilised to do

11:01 schestowitz-TR; or ill-equipped rather

11:04 Techrights-sec; I concur with that assessment

11:04 Techrights-sec; Another topic could be related to the infliction of Rust on the Kernel.

11:04 Techrights-sec; There are logistical problems with having two languages. There is also

11:04 Techrights-sec; the out-of-project control the CoC-suckers have over the technical side.

11:04 Techrights-sec; There is the problem of M$ GitHub on top of all that. Some of the project

11:04 Techrights-sec; pages have not been updated this year.

11:06 schestowitz-TR; ah, yes, that's a good topic

11:06 schestowitz-TR; I will think over it with coffee, breaks etc.

11:06 schestowitz-TR; like things that can be said

11:06 schestowitz-TR; and then record

11:06 schestowitz-TR; sjvn shilled with LF

11:06 schestowitz-TR; and then they cogratulate LT for his concession

11:06 schestowitz-TR; stockholm syndrome imho

11:06 schestowitz-TR; rust itself is having SEVERAL crises

11:06 schestowitz-TR; I mentioned some in IRC

11:07 schestowitz-TR; last night I noted that Servo (Bakersoft) being outsourced to LF was its death knell

11:07 schestowitz-TR; no blog post sicne 2 years ago

11:07 schestowitz-TR; LF became a dead project's shelf

11:07 schestowitz-TR; ("oh, but we also "support" Linux")

11:07 schestowitz-TR; "would you like your dead-end project to borrow the lively brand?"

11:07 schestowitz-TR; ethereum founder: my shitcoin will be "linux" by 2040

11:08 Techrights-sec;

11:08 Techrights-sec; Like other things, there are interests that have wanted to kill off the

11:08 Techrights-sec; umbrella organization which has sheltered and paid the top Kernel people.

11:08 Techrights-sec; Weakening the brand and running the image aground are tactics to make people

11:08 Techrights-sec; tire of the trademark and not defend the project. Linus is losing the

11:08 Techrights-sec; window of opportunity to take his trademark and walk. He already looks older

11:08 Techrights-sec; than his dad.

11:10 schestowitz-TR; wait, you realise they already signalled to him they can caharcater-aassasinate him

11:10 schestowitz-TR; in and with "the media"

11:10 schestowitz-TR; people don't forget such stuff, it slows down time

11:10 schestowitz-TR; linus: i adopt rust because I got all rusty from the trolls

11:10 schestowitz-TR; and maybe if I adopt this pile of shit that ITS OWN PEOPLE FLEE FROM (!)

11:10 schestowitz-TR; which has security issues (again this week) it'll make linux 'secure' and calm down

11:10 schestowitz-TR; the corporate trolls

11:10 schestowitz-TR; Rust was funded and shills by Gulag

11:10 schestowitz-TR; via front groups disguised as "security" soemthing

11:10 schestowitz-TR; I forgot their name

11:10 schestowitz-TR; and you can see who pays the salary of the relevant kernel people

11:11 schestowitz-TR; google.com

11:11 schestowitz-TR; @

11:11 schestowitz-TR; this is the company that worked hard to replace linux, in vain

11:11 schestowitz-TR; due to gpl

11:11 schestowitz-TR; among other factors

11:12 Techrights-sec; That might have been what they held over his head to inflict Rust on the Kernel.

11:12 Techrights-sec; Even just the logistical nightmare of having a second language increases

11:12 Techrights-sec; the complexity of managing the project and of the code base itself.

11:12 Techrights-sec; Complexity is the opposite of security.

11:12 schestowitz-TR; rust will get orphaned

11:12 schestowitz-TR; like servo and gecko in the future

11:12 schestowitz-TR; servo already seems dead

11:12 schestowitz-TR; then what?

11:12 schestowitz-TR; linus made git because of a similar scenario of "orphaning"

11:12 schestowitz-TR; you need to become a maintainer for that upon which you became reliable

11:12 schestowitz-TR; *reliant

11:16 Techrights-sec; ack

11:17 schestowitz-TR; thanks, this discussion will help me when (or if) recordign later

11:17 schestowitz-TR; i saw not a single article (!!) sceptical let alone critical of this

11:17 schestowitz-TR; this is when journalism becomes PR/cheerleading for sponsors

11:17 schestowitz-TR; I remember IDG employed some very tewchnical journos

11:17 schestowitz-TR; I spoke to some of them

11:17 schestowitz-TR; they were analytical

11:17 schestowitz-TR; not like simon bisson and other microsoft drones

11:17 schestowitz-TR; who do "pizza" on the side

11:18 Techrights-sec; :(

11:19 schestowitz-TR; "users are too dumb to make secure code, they need an insecure bloated framework"

11:19 schestowitz-TR; "good coders don't know how to use plain text email, they need to outsource git to Microsoft"

11:21 Techrights-sec; ack

11:42 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> EFF: "Watch the video on Youtube" (EFF takes bribes from Google) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/how-ditch-facebook-without-losing-your-friends-or-family-customers-or-communities | Source: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/how-ditch-facebook-without-losing-your-friends-or-family-customers-or-communities

11:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | How to Ditch Facebook Without Losing Your Friends (Or Family, Customers or Communities) | Electronic Frontier Foundation

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11:59 Techrights-sec; The could just as easily point to Media Goblin or something more relevant


noon, September 20

12:00 schestowitz-TR; yeah, but they don't know what that jis

12:00 schestowitz-TR; can you review my push?

12:00 schestowitz-TR; I pushed that to live or rather pulled into it

12:00 schestowitz; https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/20/Shows_Tiling_Window_Managers_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Videos_GNOME_Crystal_Linux_and_More.shtml

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/20/Shows_Tiling_Window_Managers_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/19/Videos_GNOME_Crystal_Linux_and_More.shtml

12:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Shows: Tiling Window Managers and Late Night Linux

12:00 schestowitz-TR; I will give you example URLs

12:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Videos: GNOME, Crystal Linux, and More

12:01 Techrights-sec; https://mediagoblin.org/pages/tour.html

↺ https://mediagoblin.org/pages/tour.html

12:01 Techrights-sec; and thus collaborate with projects and teams which share some of their

12:01 Techrights-sec; ostensible goals.

12:01 Techrights-sec; checking

12:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mediagoblin.org | MediaGoblin

12:04 Techrights-sec; The iframe formatting seems ok

12:05 schestowitz-TR; a) it saves space

12:05 schestowitz-TR; before: video shown on top

12:05 schestowitz-TR; b) it puts the image next to the link

12:05 schestowitz-TR; c) shadows if browser supports that

12:05 schestowitz-TR; the changes apply 'retroactively' to all prior-posted videos

12:05 schestowitz-TR; tested in falkon and librewolf, will test in quiterss now

12:09 Techrights-sec; The EFF's media platform choice (or lack thereof) is also a good topic.

12:11 schestowitz-TR; tested 3 user cases in quiterss

12:11 schestowitz-TR; will create another use case to test in all browsers I have...

12:11 schestowitz-TR; re eff, there are much worse things to condemn them for

12:11 schestowitz-TR; using gulag instead of something else would be "peanuts"

12:11 schestowitz-TR; and "purist"

12:11 schestowitz-TR; biab, testing..

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12:36 Techrights-sec; any movement in the right direction, however slight, is still an improvement

12:36 Techrights-sec; over what the EFF is doing now

12:37 schestowitz-TR; mozilla has hired a new product manager from Facebook and Twitter

12:37 schestowitz-TR; EFF is at least advising people to get out of FB

12:37 schestowitz-TR; in FB and Twitter the product is people

12:37 schestowitz-TR; so you can iomagine mozilla no longer views Firefox as the product

12:37 schestowitz-TR; but as a vehicle

12:37 schestowitz-TR; he was not their first new executive from FB

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12:52 Techrights-sec; ack

12:52 Techrights-sec; I would go as far as to say that nearly 100% of the public cannot and does not

12:52 Techrights-sec; know the different between data and program nor has even an inkling of the

12:52 Techrights-sec; different between communications program and communications protocol.

12:52 Techrights-sec; I would say that set includes even those that pose as IT "experts" during

12:52 Techrights-sec; the daytime at their place of employment.

12:52 Techrights-sec; ^ another topic which needs frequent revisiting as the confusion allows

12:52 Techrights-sec; capture of markets and services and prevents commoditization

12:52 Techrights-sec; In the case where something was a commodity (e.g. e-mail) that confusion

12:52 Techrights-sec; allows M$, Google, etc to take it over and lock people and standard technologies

12:52 Techrights-sec; out.

12:52 Techrights-sec; For example:

12:52 Techrights-sec; https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/

↺ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/

12:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/ )

↺ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/inexplicable-email-reject-for-gmail-recipients-and-others-4175716834/

12:53 schestowitz-TR; google reader and feedburner failed to gives a monopoly over attention and eyes

12:53 schestowitz-TR; the local art gallery uses a gmail account, not email

12:53 schestowitz-TR; I noticed it days ago

12:53 schestowitz-TR; they want a foreign nation to scam all the comms


1 PM, September 20

13:01 schestowitz-TR; fb and gulag wages on "attack" or "war on URLS"

13:01 schestowitz-TR; so people scroll down throuigh a ton of nonsense and clickbait to find things

13:01 schestowitz-TR; instea

13:01 schestowitz-TR; if going directly to the stuff of interest

13:01 schestowitz-TR; rss was phased out of gulag/moz software

13:01 schestowitz-TR; even thoiugh it was a step forward

13:01 Techrights-sec; Yes, there is a move to hide the URLs, starting with the addresses / host names

13:01 schestowitz-TR; it moreover makes sense when the real clients are advertiosers and toyu want to help them FIND

13:01 schestowitz-TR; theirt cuistomers rather than let people whoi dsurf the web find what they look for

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13:04 schestowitz-TR; URLs are something "for geeks"

13:04 schestowitz-TR; "use our app"

13:04 Techrights-sec; "apps" instead of boookmarks. Again, there is the confustion between program

13:04 Techrights-sec; and data or program and protocol

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17:58 Techrights-sec; moved two scripts to /usr/local/sbin out of /root and added a wrapper script

17:58 Techrights-sec; there, too


6 PM, September 20

18:01 schestowitz-TR; I was gonna mention

18:01 schestowitz-TR; sometimes the upload script generates a filename that starts with .

18:01 schestowitz-TR; due to some parsing issue

18:01 schestowitz-TR; which I did not capture

18:01 schestowitz-TR; the result looks ok except ugly filenames

18:02 schestowitz; '

18:02 schestowitz; roy:/var/www/tuxmachines.org/htdocs/Features% upload 'https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1484807352052-23338990c6c6?crop=entropy&cs=tinysrgb&fit=max&fm=jpg&ixid=MnwxMTc3M3wwfDF8c2VhcmNofDJ8fHdlYnxlbnwwfHx8fDE2NjM1NzAyNTE&ixlib=rb-1.2.1&q=80&w=600'

↺ https://images.unsplash.com/photo-1484807352052-23338990c6c6?crop=entropy&cs=tinysrgb&fit=max&fm=jpg&ixid=MnwxMTc3M3wwfDF8c2VhcmNofDJ8fHdlYnxlbnwwfHx8fDE2NjM1NzAyNTE&ixlib=rb-1.2.1&q=80&w=600'

18:02 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.

18:02 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.

18:02 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 317.

18:03 schestowitz; % upload 'https://ubports.com/web/image/website/9/logo/UBports?unique=f4b0c2b'

↺ https://ubports.com/web/image/website/9/logo/UBports?unique=f4b0c2b'

18:03 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.

18:03 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.

18:03 schestowitz; upload https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjg_5DeWOTvjyTobCW_3RQsLjLY_WEm9WtTTOm1opuUIRto8GJq_zKlVAv3hOdzprKXQ6UjeikMYobbatUGjom0AfPSqV2seqaIJmiLs8ITwC2H5lqgixLWHdudvvgAMd8Y1VGfXvp3CZgnfjyfaSXeretdz1pDVbK1j4Fv2aamDLtdwwxbnflSW0GSfw/s320/Screenshot from 2022-09-19 15-55-59.png

↺ https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjg_5DeWOTvjyTobCW_3RQsLjLY_WEm9WtTTOm1opuUIRto8GJq_zKlVAv3hOdzprKXQ6UjeikMYobbatUGjom0AfPSqV2seqaIJmiLs8ITwC2H5lqgixLWHdudvvgAMd8Y1VGfXvp3CZgnfjyfaSXeretdz1pDVbK1j4Fv2aamDLtdwwxbnflSW0GSfw/s320/Screenshot

18:03 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dext in lc at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 248.

18:03 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 316.

18:03 schestowitz; Use of uninitialized value $dfile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/local/bin/tm-scale-and-process-image.pl line 317.

18:04 Techrights-sec; When the dot at the start of the file name happens again can you please provide

18:04 Techrights-sec; the URL? That will make it easier to debug.

18:04 Techrights-sec; Checking

18:04 Techrights-sec; URL will be needed for that but I have a vague guess.

18:14 Techrights-sec; Thanks. Most of that scrolled past, can you do just the URL? I see where

18:14 Techrights-sec; the problem is but would need the URL for testing and it may take a bit

18:14 Techrights-sec; to fix if the file name is wonky.

18:14 Techrights-sec; if the URL is "https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29..." then

↺ https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29..."

18:14 Techrights-sec; the problem is because of spaces in the file name. The work-around is to always enclose the URL in quotes, either single quotes or double quotes.

18:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29 )

↺ https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29

18:19 Techrights-sec; Otherwise, the "error" occurs in the shell before the script even starts as

18:19 Techrights-sec; the URL gets truncated then. The script could check for the presence of more

18:19 Techrights-sec; than a single argument and fail in the case there are two or more. That might

18:19 Techrights-sec; be an approach.

18:21 schestowitz-TR; it usually happens when there are quotes as well

18:21 schestowitz-TR; but I never looked very closely

18:21 schestowitz-TR; as at the end it did make a copy and reizsize it

18:21 schestowitz-TR; but when the above warning is shown the resultant file is something like .9 or .8 (IIRC)

18:21 schestowitz-TR; empty string with number appended

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18:46 Techrights-sec; The spaces alone won't cause the digits preceded with a dot. So if (when) it

18:46 Techrights-sec; happens again please provide the URL for the offending image name.

18:46 Techrights-sec; For now, the script will balk at accepting more than a single argument.

18:46 Techrights-sec; Checking the ubports link...

18:46 Techrights-sec; Yep. That's the offending URL / style of URL.

18:46 Techrights-sec; Checking.


7 PM, September 20

19:14 Techrights-sec; Ok some patches are in place.

19:14 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I will tell you if I encounter any more errors as they appear/come

19:15 schestowitz-TR; rianne just told me she had encountered the same

19:19 schestowitz-TR; going to take a nap

19:19 schestowitz-TR; your capsule is offline btw

19:19 schestowitz-TR; back in a bit


8 PM, September 20

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20:43 Techrights-sec; As mentioned the capsule is not in a stable configuration and will be offline

20:43 Techrights-sec; periodically and unpredictably. I should take it down completely until suitable

20:43 Techrights-sec; software becomes available.


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