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07:19 schestowitz-TR2; gm
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07:19 Techrights-sec; gm
07:19 Techrights-sec; the updated posts now percolate to the top of any feed list they may be in
07:19 Techrights-sec; (I think)
07:20 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, last night I noticed that the android leftovers rianne added while you posted the test nodes always showed asd previous of new nodes, until this morning
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; back, sorry, was 'optimising' rianne's underpowered PC
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; I wasn't even going to mention the 'bug'
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; I assume it's to do with the timing that page was added
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; and it's already 'resolved'
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; btw, should we configure a backup procedure? I'll turn off backups for "old" soon, no point to them anymore
07:36 schestowitz-TR2; I did run a full DB check before finalising the read-only state
07:38 Techrights-sec; np it's still there, just behind the updates
07:38 Techrights-sec; thanks for covering the difficult topics in TR posts and the high speed in TM
07:38 Techrights-sec; The SQL queries for that script mark the updated records and then once the
07:38 Techrights-sec; records are chosen, they are resorted to take their update status into account
07:38 Techrights-sec; :)
07:38 Techrights-sec; yes, some script which also locks the database temporarily
07:38 Techrights-sec; ack
09:31 schestowitz-TR2; on root@tm-new
09:31 schestowitz-TR2; tmux a -t logs
09:31 schestowitz-TR2; top pane: gemini. middle: all combined. bottom: apache
09:31 schestowitz-TR2; tm-old still clocking over 200KB/sec
09:32 schestowitz-TR2; we will depart on bicycles in about an hour, eta 2 hours later
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10:35 schestowitz-TR2; I've just stopped the TM backup (remote) job and deletion of older backups
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; the local nightly backup will still happen, but the DB won't change much, just cache tables
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; I'll recover some disk space now by removing old TM backups
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; done, about 10gb of disk space recovered
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; I think you already have some of these files on external media regardless
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; I have selected few also
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; going to run full db check now
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; just in case
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; db is OK
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; I have monitoring on tail for the mariadb log
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; but that site is now in effect read-only
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; its local nightly backup supersede the previous night's backup
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; so it doesn't take any additional space
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; at least we managed to endure 18+ years without data loss
10:35 Techrights-sec; ack
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; unless susan could tell me something I don't know about
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; but under our watch since 2014 no data loss
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; oh, wait... i forgot to tell you
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; [10:19] <techrights-news> "It is part of the It's FOSS News website and you can read it on the website as well. The news website has also got a makeover as it is
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; now using the Ghost framework." Moved off WordPress? Seems like a trend... https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-30/
10:39 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.itsfoss.com | FOSS Weekly #22.30: Apt Package Management, Atomic Updates in Deepin 23 and More Linux Stuff
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; that explains why I saw all feed entries as suddenly unread
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; calling it "FOSS Weekly" might be an issue
10:39 Techrights-sec; ack
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; there is already a "FLOSS Weekly"
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; I hope there can be huge momentum OFF DB-backend CMS bloat.
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; as more sites declare that they do it others start exploring the same
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; DB is a moving part that is very flaky compared to a file system
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; DBs are expressive, but in most sites 99% of actual people request the same pages over and over again
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; and caching in a DB or CMS is just another "moving part"
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; it's also a place where there's attack surface
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; hence more patching needed
10:39 schestowitz-TR2; more often
10:41 Techrights-sec; yes all those moving parts are a maintenance nightmare
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; I've just noticed that in TM front page even nodes last updated 17th of Aug show up on top of new nodes like GCC 12.2
10:43 schestowitz-TR2; I think it's a bug that prioritises all "modified time" pages over non-modified and newer
10:43 Techrights-sec; were they updated?
10:43 Techrights-sec; ok the sql queries must be tuned better. perhaps just boost the last day's
10:43 Techrights-sec; modified files?
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; I think current day's modified
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; so it sort of resets itself at day's end
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; and then new updates bubble their way upwards, and unless updates the next day they'll fall off it
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; *updated
10:45 schestowitz-TR2; the linux kernel rc1 was updated for 3-4 days in a row and it's an important item
10:46 Techrights-sec; that part of the sorting has to happen after the query is retrieved and is
10:46 Techrights-sec; in the script already
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; d it's an important item
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; curiously, in gemini the order seems correct
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; bumped up to top of front page are only pages updated earlier today
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; in http/s the mesa node, the ltest addition, is about 15 from the top
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; i wondered for days if there was a way to leverage css selectors to highlight "updated" ones
10:55 schestowitz-TR2; but short of shit like JS (jquery) is't not possible
11:00 Techrights-sec; checking
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; I've also just noticed that in gemini the top of the page of new pages days 2022-08-17 for things posted after that
11:00 schestowitz-TR2; I am guessing that it extracts that date from somewhere external
11:02 Techrights-sec; checking
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16:57 schestowitz-TR2; nap now
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; btw, I noticed this morning that automatic resolution for dusplicate slug is not working anymore
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; it just says slug already used, used a different one
16:57 schestowitz-TR2; also, moments ago it didn't catch " & " and converted it. Maybe related?
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20:06 Techrights-sec; fixed, thanks for spotting the error
20:06 Techrights-sec; ^ the slug part
20:06 Techrights-sec; checking the & part now
20:06 Techrights-sec; probabl fixed ...
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; back
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; thanks!
20:07 schestowitz-TR2; been sleeping "too much" lately
20:07 Techrights-sec; np
20:29 schestowitz-TR2; >
20:29 schestowitz-TR2; tidied flow of text in IRC description
20:29 schestowitz-TR2; Thanks
20:41 Techrights-sec; np
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