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05:03 schestowitz-TR; tm now serves over https, root doc under /var/www/localhost
05:03 schestowitz-TR; with apache2
05:04 schestowitz-TR; self-signed, 10 years
05:04 schestowitz-TR; you can see news.tuxmachines.org
06:58 Techrights-sec; can we rename that to /var/www/tuxmachines.org ? It would be more clear
06:58 Techrights-sec; once several sessions are open concurrently.
06:58 Techrights-sec; the arrangement of the Apache2 configuration files is a bit strange there
06:58 Techrights-sec; the SSL vhost is defined twice, once in httpd,conf once in ssl.conf,
06:58 Techrights-sec; there should only be one
07:00 schestowitz-TR; back
07:00 schestowitz-TR; by all means shugffle them around as you see fit
07:00 schestowitz-TR; I just did it quickly to get it running
07:00 schestowitz-TR; I suppose we can adduser git
07:00 schestowitz-TR; and then manage tuxmachines files separately there
07:00 schestowitz-TR; to get in as root
07:00 schestowitz-TR; you can come via the hv
07:00 schestowitz-TR; from the ssh route it is tuxmachines
07:00 Techrights-sec; ok thanks
07:00 schestowitz-TR; I installlled nano today
07:07 schestowitz-TR; I've not made a list of steps so far, but
07:07 schestowitz-TR; tuxmahcines creatdd
07:07 schestowitz-TR; ssh added, enabled, made to restart on reboot
07:07 schestowitz-TR; same for apache2 and apache2-ssl
07:07 schestowitz-TR; generated pair basic config for apache
07:07 schestowitz-TR; added nano, I think that's it
07:07 schestowitz-TR; I've just written root history to /home/tuxmachines
07:07 schestowitz-TR; some of these steps will be sim,ilar for techrights (later)
07:07 Techrights-sec; ack
07:59 Techrights-sec; I've shuffled it around alittle but the directory permissions are causing the
07:59 Techrights-sec; trouble. The new vhost file is at : /etc/apache2/conf.d/tuxmachines.org.conf
07:59 Techrights-sec; The logs are showing up fine, but access is still blocked.
07:59 Techrights-sec; ok the syntax was the matter. I was remembering the old, deprecated syntax
07:59 Techrights-sec; I'd like to rename the TLS certificate files to match the host name but will
07:59 Techrights-sec; put that off for a bit
08:06 schestowitz-TR; thanks, just got back again
08:06 schestowitz-TR; testing gz backups after the xfs_repair
08:06 Techrights-sec; np
08:06 Techrights-sec; looking at setting up git
08:06 Techrights-sec; I've made the directory / repository but now have to work out the login details
08:06 Techrights-sec; have to take a pause though
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10:30 schestowitz-TR; updating the pi here, I reckon it's already imperfect in that state anyway
10:30 schestowitz-TR; maybe the update will fix the issues we had before
10:30 schestowitz-TR; kaniini got a new ampere machine and wants to put new techrights on it
10:30 schestowitz-TR; it's like 160 very fast 3.3ghz arm cores
10:43 Techrights-sec2; great
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11:42 schestowitz-TR; are today's daily links on the way still?
11:42 schestowitz-TR; I have some nuclear material on Microsoft,, I think I'm meanwhile working on thjat
11:43 Techrights-sec2; yes in progress
11:49 Techrights-sec2; excellent
11:49 Techrights-sec2; uploaded, now back to prodding Git
11:49 Techrights-sec2; a brief description of the images is needed in the draft
11:50 schestowitz-TR; draft
11:50 schestowitz-TR; fast and crude
11:50 schestowitz-TR; I think the docs are the important thing for now
11:50 schestowitz-TR; adding captions etc. and morew links
11:55 Techrights-sec2; thanks
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13:01 Techrights-sec2; taking a rest from cargoculting a Git repository for now
13:01 schestowitz-TR; do you find alpine OK to work with so far?
13:10 Techrights-sec2; alpine is great, thanks,
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13:13 Techrights-sec2; Git itself is quite confusing still
13:14 schestowitz-TR; I am far from git expert, I did use svn and cvs in he days
13:14 schestowitz-TR; but torvalds made git very simple for a few months
13:14 schestowitz-TR; then others took over
13:14 schestowitz-TR; same for linux
13:14 schestowitz-TR; now it seems common for companies like microsoft (github) to "take over"
13:14 schestowitz-TR; "step aside, we'll take it from here"
13:14 schestowitz-TR; and add things for selfish business reasons
13:14 schestowitz-TR; same in gcc any time a company introduces a new product
13:14 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:14 Techrights-sec2; the simplicity is no longer present :/
13:16 schestowitz-TR; buy our interfaces, egst subscriptions etc.
13:16 schestowitz-TR; it'll be simpler
13:16 schestowitz-TR; (systemd, gitlab, github, etc.
13:16 schestowitz-TR; open core
13:16 schestowitz-TR; openshit [sic], ansible, podman...
13:16 schestowitz-TR; mr. openshit just became red hat ceo
13:17 Techrights-sec2; yep, lock-in through excessive complexity
13:17 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:19 schestowitz-TR; git is noit grassroots
13:19 schestowitz-TR; watch all the release announcments
13:19 schestowitz-TR; they link to a microsoft site
13:19 schestowitz-TR; selling a PROPRIETARY EEE against git
13:19 schestowitz-TR; microsoft knew what it paid for
13:19 schestowitz-TR; while 'drpizza' greased up the takeiover
13:19 schestowitz-TR; along with zemlinb
13:19 schestowitz-TR; btw, ryan noticed ars removed none of his 'articles' (microsoft planbt)
13:19 schestowitz-TR; they just changed author name to something egneric
13:19 schestowitz-TR; that's conde nasty
13:21 Techrights-sec2; interesting
13:21 schestowitz-TR; microsoft: we found some kid rapist to push our strategic puff pieces saying how we use git internally,
13:21 schestowitz-TR; how much we lovfe it, how we're open source company...
13:21 schestowitz-TR; he came from british Library
13:21 schestowitz-TR; which ms used for ooxml advocacy in us (ve bsi)
13:21 schestowitz-TR; adam fuquar (iirc)
13:21 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:23 schestowitz-TR; mit: we took microsoft and esptein/gates money
13:23 schestowitz-TR; now we need to delete some things to cover it uo, also cancel some people
13:23 schestowitz-TR; arse: we took microsoft money and had employed microsoft pedos
13:23 schestowitz-TR; it's ok, we'll chance the name on the articles
14:02 schestowitz-TR; Hackaday starts publishing sponsored SPAM https://hackaday.com/2022/07/18/print-your-own-drill-guide-without-a-linear-bearing/ | Source: Hacka
14:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Print Your Own Drill Guide Without A Linear Bearing | Hackaday
14:10 Techrights-sec2; :(
14:16 schestowitz-TR; is this key-based or password?
14:16 schestowitz-TR; adding my key
14:16 Techrights-sec2; key-based. add a public key to ~git/.ssh/authorized_keys
14:16 Techrights-sec2; git is hard to modify so I hope I have hammered out all the details
14:16 Techrights-sec2; otherwise, I'll just have to erase and start over yet again
14:16 Techrights-sec2; I need to lock down the account too, right now it is still shell access + git
14:16 Techrights-sec2; it needs to be git-only
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14:20 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:20 Techrights-sec2; only hand-made files go in ./htdocs and the scripts need to find another home
14:20 Techrights-sec2; yes, about all of them
14:21 schestowitz-TR; have you added any files yet?
14:21 Techrights-sec2; except the Apache2 config
14:21 Techrights-sec2; try cloning and you can see what is there
14:22 schestowitz; Cloning into 'tuxmachines.org'...
14:22 schestowitz; remote: Enumerating objects: 44, done.
14:22 schestowitz; remote: Counting objects: 100% (44/44), done.
14:22 schestowitz; remote: Compressing objects: 100% (38/38), done.
14:22 schestowitz; remote: Total 44 (delta 8), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
14:22 schestowitz; Receiving objects: 100% (44/44), 26.64 KiB | 153.00 KiB/s, done.
14:22 schestowitz; Resolving deltas: 100% (8/8), done.
14:22 schestowitz; warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
14:24 schestowitz-TR; whcih brnach name?
14:24 schestowitz-TR; ah
14:25 Techrights-sec2; hmm. that's Git for you.
14:25 Techrights-sec2; tuxmachines.org
14:25 Techrights-sec2; Like I mentioned, I know nothing about Git and even less about established
14:25 Techrights-sec2; best practices with Git
14:26 Techrights-sec2; maybe the branch can be renamed, maybe not
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14:40 schestowitz-TR; I think there is no HEAD yet
14:40 Techrights-sec2; the branch needs to be renamed then :/
14:40 Techrights-sec2; $ git branch -m HEAD
14:40 Techrights-sec2; fatal: 'HEAD' is not a valid branch name
14:53 schestowitz-TR; exxxx-ce-lent
14:53 schestowitz-TR; I think later I will reuse the TR code to expose this repo over gemini://
14:53 schestowitz-TR; as it would take little extra effort
14:53 Techrights-sec2; I'm still years away from being either useful or comfortable with Git :(
14:56 schestowitz-TR; people who say git is simple are imho posers
14:56 schestowitz-TR; i think I said it before
14:56 schestowitz-TR; git is not n00b friendly
14:56 schestowitz-TR; then again, people who push git [sic] as a disservice like github
14:56 schestowitz-TR; are evn worse
14:56 schestowitz-TR; they offer a prison as "nice place where you don't need to work and food is free"
14:56 schestowitz-TR; of coruse prisons are terrible places
14:56 schestowitz-TR; (maybe less so in norway)
14:59 Techrights-sec2; It's not anybody friendly. The documentation is long but not clear.
14:59 Techrights-sec2; So one has to hunt for articles with examples and /still/ do hours of trial
14:59 Techrights-sec2; and error and wipe-and-start-over
14:59 Techrights-sec2; There is a most despicable movement to try to conflate Git with GitHub and
14:59 Techrights-sec2; many microsofters are part of that.
14:59 Techrights-sec2; or so it looks like.
14:59 Techrights-sec2; Well what I expected to take 1 or at most 2 hours with Git, has turned into the
14:59 Techrights-sec2; whole day and there are still a lot of loose ends to tidy up
14:59 Techrights-sec2; by the way:
14:59 Techrights-sec2; $ cp hooks/pre-commit.sample hooks/pre-commit
14:59 Techrights-sec2; inside the checked out repository will add some minimal checking
14:59 Techrights-sec2; .
14:59 schestowitz-TR; you check for blacks in TR
14:59 schestowitz-TR; a bit tedious sometimes but encourages better quality
14:59 schestowitz-TR; I pushed saome changes last night
14:59 schestowitz-TR; so that in irc when I add a link to youtube it gives both invidious
14:59 schestowitz-TR; and a link to gemini, where you can download the videos
14:59 schestowitz-TR; the thing that took a few minutes is appeasing the pre-commit check
15:00 Techrights-sec2; ack
15:00 Techrights-sec2; s/blacks/blanks/
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15:22 schestowitz-TR; rianne getting truly pissed off at how hard it is to book a train ticket
15:22 schestowitz-TR; tried librewold
15:22 schestowitz-TR; tried firefox
15:23 schestowitz-TR; tried paypal
15:23 schestowitz-TR; complete disaster
15:23 schestowitz-TR; CS graduate
15:23 schestowitz-TR; imagine what old people go through
15:23 schestowitz-TR; and in some station they barerly have any staff
15:23 schestowitz-TR; maybe they have sokme "app" BS these days
15:23 schestowitz-TR; tech: it'll make life easier... for corporations
15:31 schestowitz-TR; rianne loses her temper and it' 36 degrees
15:31 schestowitz-TR; the site kleeps blaming "browser"
15:31 schestowitz-TR; "make sure.. browser.. something"
15:31 schestowitz-TR; when it's clear not the issue
15:31 schestowitz-TR; just walking there to buy a ticket with cash in hand would have been faster
15:31 schestowitz-TR; and would have produced less sweat
15:31 schestowitz-TR; this is why I tend to avoid "sites" and "apps" and all thius utter fing sh*
15:32 Techrights-sec2; The sites are not designed with efficiency or usability in mind, that is not
15:32 Techrights-sec2; even taught in schools any more; they are all about "engagement" even in
15:32 Techrights-sec2; ostensibly commercial sites which have a financial incentive to provide an
15:32 Techrights-sec2; easy means for people to solve their tasks and get on with their day
15:32 schestowitz-TR; I never tried self-checkouts, but each store has its own UI and it's not my job to learn these
15:37 Techrights-sec2; when the UI does not work, and sales plummet, they assholes blame the "market"
15:37 Techrights-sec2; or the "economy" rather than their bad design. I've known people who in the
15:37 Techrights-sec2; past had to change airlines becaue their prefered airline's web site was
15:37 Techrights-sec2; unviable and could not sell tickets even after contacting the company.
15:39 schestowitz-TR; That airline has suffered terribly financially yet none of the public
15:39 schestowitz-TR; reports have ever blamed the web UI nor have they fixed the web UI so that
15:39 schestowitz-TR; it is actually possible to order tickets.
15:39 Techrights-sec2; That airline has suffered terribly financially yet none of the public
15:39 Techrights-sec2; reports have ever blamed the web UI nor have they fixed the web UI so that
15:39 Techrights-sec2; it is actually possible to order tickets.
15:52 schestowitz-TR; she ended up paying more to book via a third party site
15:52 schestowitz-TR; abetter known site
15:52 schestowitz-TR; so the train operators have sites that do not work
15:52 schestowitz-TR; and do not tell you upfront
15:52 schestowitz-TR; they enbd up being reliant on those congglemerates that charge extra fees
15:52 schestowitz-TR; ain't that something?
15:52 schestowitz-TR; and it took almost an hour to book
15:52 schestowitz-TR; (not for me, for her, I plan to stay home those 3 days)
15:52 schestowitz-TR; bus (coach) not an option due to lack of distancing (covid-19)
15:56 Techrights-sec2; I've made a backup of the Git repository now, and will take a break from it
15:59 schestowitz-TR; excellent job
15:59 schestowitz-TR; so now we have two repos
15:59 schestowitz-TR; on my machine one is called Git-TM
15:59 schestowitz-TR; going to the park now
15:59 schestowitz-TR; it's too humid here at this time
15:59 schestowitz-TR; we'll feed birds and burn energy
15:59 Techrights-sec2; no
15:59 Techrights-sec2; ^np
15:59 schestowitz-TR; I struggle tro record vieos, but tomorrow it'll be cool again
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17:48 schestowitz-TR; back
17:48 schestowitz-TR; even went past the graveyard, read some stones
17:48 schestowitz-TR; but mostly pas the stadium and water sources
17:48 schestowitz-TR; for the sake of walk and sun
17:48 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to clean rss feeds now, it has cooled down a lot
17:48 schestowitz-TR; cloudy too
17:48 schestowitz-TR; we got pieapple for like 90% off (full pineapple)
17:48 schestowitz-TR; we have excess food at the moment
17:48 schestowitz-TR; cooking it to elongate lifetime
17:49 Techrights-sec2; ack
17:49 Techrights-sec2; nice
17:50 schestowitz-TR; we still have one very large cake with frosting, very good cake, but it's not a priority to finish
17:51 schestowitz-TR; food shortages have pushed up price, availabnility down, sometimes prices almost double
17:51 schestowitz-TR; so hoarding sales is even more strategic now
17:53 schestowitz-TR; blame the russian covid drought
18:00 schestowitz-TR; one needs a bit of creativity for the art of rebellion against injustices and I think RMS
18:00 schestowitz-TR; did that to the rntal/estate industry in a way I double not,
18:00 schestowitz-TR; though I did try to prolong student accommodation and checked several times over if
18:00 schestowitz-TR; any loopholes existed
18:00 schestowitz-TR; these places include power and water in the price, plus no council tax (students)
18:00 schestowitz-TR; so cost of living can be very low
18:09 Techrights-sec2; With software much of that can be seen with the rise of what is effectively
18:09 Techrights-sec2; digital sharecropping. Instead of using software to spread freedom,
18:09 Techrights-sec2; enlightenment, and self-empowerment, it is being used to bring outdated
18:09 Techrights-sec2; models and ways of thinking into the digital era so that there is effectively
18:09 Techrights-sec2; a serfdom once again.
18:09 Techrights-sec2; That's the opposite direction of what is good for society, the opposite of
18:09 Techrights-sec2; what RMS had worked so hard for up until he was cancelled.
18:12 schestowitz-TR; low cost of living is a liberating factor
18:12 schestowitz-TR; but that requires buying in a particular fashion, if at all
18:12 schestowitz-TR; I keep hearing about spouses (usually wives) who spend to the full capacity of the income
18:12 schestowitz-TR; if not beyoind (credit card)
18:12 schestowitz-TR; nothing is ever enough
18:12 schestowitz-TR; and I think it's by advertising and peer pressure
18:12 schestowitz-TR; FB mixes those two things/factors
18:12 Techrights-sec2; or just ripping off so much unearned money that the cost of things is
18:12 Techrights-sec2; relatively speaking, trivial
18:12 Techrights-sec2; ack
18:14 schestowitz-TR; banksters make the most money from people whose balance is minus something
18:15 schestowitz-TR; so this self-harming behaviour (risk,stress) is acteively encouraged
18:15 schestowitz-TR; and made to be seen as normal
18:15 schestowitz-TR; they tell people het their credit reports are better if they have a credit card and are
18:15 schestowitz-TR; in debt of some kind
18:15 schestowitz-TR; they don't like savers who do not "invest"
18:15 Techrights-sec2; s/make/take/
18:16 schestowitz-TR; my mom lost a lot of her savings during covid years
18:16 schestowitz-TR; she "invested"
18:16 schestowitz-TR; like "everyone told her"
18:16 Techrights-sec2; by redefining gambling and speculation to mean "invest"
18:16 Techrights-sec2; :(
18:19 schestowitz-TR; grayson: don't get ill. if you get ill, die quickly
18:19 schestowitz-TR; me: don't stop working. if you retire, die quickly
18:19 schestowitz-TR; don't save money. if you do, you are breaking the rules and we're reverse -mortgage your life till "mort"
18:22 schestowitz-TR; repairing the bank's home at one's own expense before handing it over to the bank
18:22 schestowitz-TR; to resell to the next "maintainer"
18:26 schestowitz-TR; a) fake capital growth relies on mssivelyt inflation the worth of something (c/s EPO bubble)
18:27 schestowitz-TR; e.g. Appele at 3,000,000 million, riding the money of "inbvestors"
18:27 schestowitz-TR; b) if you sell a home at x10 the price of the material that build it and buy another
18:27 schestowitz-TR; you would still need to payx10 more than its real value
18:27 schestowitz-TR; so it's not even great as an investment if yoiu actuall live in it
18:27 schestowitz-TR; it favours saudis and chinese tycoons who buy homes by the blocks
18:27 schestowitz-TR; polaying Monopoly ((R)
18:27 Techrights-sec2; Apple is a finance company with a minor sideline in hardware and an abandoned
18:27 Techrights-sec2; past in design
18:27 Techrights-sec2; Heck, I expect that M$ probably makes more from financialization than any of
18:27 Techrights-sec2; its "goods" or services combined
19:10 schestowitz-TR; thomas lord has died
19:10 schestowitz-TR; aged 56
19:10 schestowitz-TR; Tom Lord RIP Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/167417
19:11 Techrights-sec2; :(
19:11 Techrights-sec2; I read his writing rather often and liked the technical topics he coverred
19:11 Techrights-sec2; What happened to him?
19:11 Techrights-sec2; any obituary to point to?
19:11 Techrights-sec2;
19:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Tom Lord RIP | Tux Machines
19:16 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:17 Techrights-sec2; https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2022-06-26/article/49837
19:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-berkeleydailyplanet.com | Thomas Lord 1966-2022. Category: Obituaries from The Berkeley Daily Planet
19:24 Techrights-sec2; The Andrew project was immensely important and provided capabilities that
19:24 Techrights-sec2; universities (and the private sector) no longer have
19:25 schestowitz-TR; the article says unexpected, so I assume medical issue
19:25 schestowitz-TR; whether a known one or not, it says unexpected
20:01 Techrights-sec2; Capabilities with file sharing have gone backwards and are now very far behind
20:01 Techrights-sec2; what the Andrew project had once had with the resulting global AFS network
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21:40 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/TheReachOut/status/1549364527212396544#m
21:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The-Unreachables (@TheReachOut): "Charity Navigator Does Not Recommend Giving Money to the Open Source Initiative (OSI) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/19/osi-in-charity-navigator/"|nitter.it
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