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beginning of new day, February 19

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1 AM, February 19

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2 AM, February 19

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4 AM, February 19

04:09 schestowitz-pi; i kept a copy of rrrrr07.py

04:09 schestowitz-pi; and made a lousy patch that interjects my scripts into it

04:09 schestowitz-pi; block of stuff thrown in

04:09 schestowitz-pi; and some more at the header

04:09 schestowitz-pi; sort of undoing and aborting atm

04:09 schestowitz-pi; as it would have too many drawbacks

04:09 schestowitz-pi; like a script writing to two separate files

04:09 schestowitz-pi; and one doing it serially, another in parallel

04:09 schestowitz-pi; maybe the better option is to align firefox and kate in the same virtual desktop somehow


5 AM, February 19

05:39 schestowitz-pi; i have made a few changes to mine

05:39 schestowitz-pi; the main issue with it at the moment is error handling

05:39 schestowitz-pi; which needs extra exceptions

05:40 schestowitz-pi; the merge efforts I'll leave canned for now

05:40 schestowitz-pi; it was not a good idea

05:40 schestowitz-pi; it's good that I changed my mind when it was still early prototype

05:40 schestowitz-pi; maybe I can graft some error handliing bits from it

05:40 schestowitz-pi; they both use the same lib to process feeds


6 AM, February 19

06:33 schestowitz-pi; let me upload the latest.... 1 min

06:33 schestowitz-pi; ok, overriden

06:33 schestowitz-pi; on /tmp

06:33 schestowitz-pi; the main issue was handling the weird responses

06:33 schestowitz-pi; bak in 2 hours (wholesal


9 AM, February 19

09:39 schestowitz-pi; bak in 2 hours (wholesale)

09:39 schestowitz-pi; wow, thanks, gonna try this now

09:39 schestowitz-pi; today we saved 'only' about 50 pounds

09:39 schestowitz-pi; no protein shakes founds, but we bring them in faster than we can finish them

09:39 schestowitz-pi; ok, fetcing the scripts

09:39 schestowitz-pi; in recent days the daily links alone can be close to 7000 lines in bulletins

09:39 schestowitz-pi; and I spend very little time on memes these days as they are not a priority

09:39 schestowitz-pi; and not useful for gemini

09:42 schestowitz-pi; gemini://ten2.one/recipes-from-afar.gmi

↺ gemini://ten2.one/recipes-from-afar.gmi

09:59 schestowitz-pi; have chedked all 4 files, or the 3 new ones

09:59 schestowitz-pi; ./rrrrrr.08.py --open --citation ../roy-feeds.opml > 08.html

09:59 schestowitz-pi; am i missing some parameter for output file name?

09:59 schestowitz-pi; the other two I've not run/used yet


10 AM, February 19

10:16 schestowitz-pi; i think i am using it wrong

10:16 schestowitz-pi; the output file is the same with the suggested command

10:16 schestowitz-pi; and I've not tried roy.opml.py

10:23 schestowitz-pi; on /tmp feedlist.html shows the output of feedlist.py

10:23 schestowitz-pi; with all its limitations

10:23 schestowitz-pi; i see now in the code that it uses xhtml for citation

10:23 schestowitz-pi; xsl definition

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11 AM, February 19

11:10 schestowitz-pi; ok, i can see the misunderstanding now

11:10 schestowitz-pi; the python file makes opml from the list

11:10 schestowitz-pi; it is then fed into rrrrr

11:10 schestowitz-pi; feedlist.py and feedlist.html show what was done

11:42 schestowitz-pi; to explain in words, rrrr takes opml file and extracts strings from it, then building a tree

11:42 schestowitz-pi; of links, wheras feedlist uses a flattened opml file (which beame just a list of strings)

11:42 schestowitz-pi; and thengoes through each at the time, with output of item/entry bosy included

11:42 schestowitz-pi; why i wanted to use rrrr: its handling of tough feeds is more robust

11:42 schestowitz-pi; the existing script seems to convert backwars the list of feeds into an opml file

11:49 schestowitz-pi; fwiw, the exception handling in quiterss was never great either; for both myself and rianne it

11:49 schestowitz-pi; would sometimes crash if a site went offline and it would take hours to track down the culprit

11:49 schestowitz-pi; i.e. which feed to delete/disanle to prevent the whole application crashing


noon, February 19

12:15 schestowitz-pi; i was thinking, at first, that grafting some parts from rrrrr would help tackle some tough ones

12:15 schestowitz-pi; then tries to go the other way, embedding things in the loop of rrrrr

12:15 schestowitz-pi; thanks for the new option in rrrr

12:15 schestowitz-pi; and for the opml builder

12:15 schestowitz-pi; i am going to try to identify the 'offending''''''''''''''''' rss feeds instead

12:15 schestowitz-pi; while maintaining the currently workflow

12:15 schestowitz-pi; the more i thought about this for weeks, the clearer it became those needed to

12:15 schestowitz-pi; remain separate

12:15 schestowitz-pi; but i enby the good exception handling in rrrr

12:15 schestowitz-pi; i am going to spend sunday separating good feeds from bad feeds

12:15 schestowitz-pi; apropos, had i imported this opml into quiterss (haven't done so),

12:15 schestowitz-pi; I'd then need to disable quite a few important entries in order for it to refresh

12:15 schestowitz-pi; without crashing

12:16 schestowitz-pi; HECK :-) in the process i might as well remove feeds that are known to be more noise

12:16 schestowitz-pi; than signal

12:21 schestowitz-pi; task well overdue, also removing urls of stuff already in riss_since and maybe foreign langs

12:21 schestowitz-pi; unrelated: strikes in german arirports; travel has become risky and unreliable

12:21 schestowitz-pi; you book and pray it'll go as planned

12:31 schestowitz-pi; it'll take a long time, but it was wishful thinking, thinking dumping 1000+ feeds into a python lib

12:31 schestowitz-pi; would be effortless and work well

12:31 schestowitz-pi; it's just that back then I did not know what tools would become available later

12:34 schestowitz-pi; we now have

12:34 schestowitz-pi; ompl flattener

12:34 schestowitz-pi; sincd 2 years ago

12:34 schestowitz-pi; list of feeds -> opml

12:34 schestowitz-pi; list (flat) -> body dump

12:34 schestowitz-pi; rrr -> opml-to-html

12:34 schestowitz-pi; they all process of expose news data in diffeent ways

12:34 schestowitz-pi; *or

12:42 schestowitz-pi; 1) informing people of ANYTHING RSS reminds them people use these, so that is good

12:42 schestowitz-pi; 2)seeing phoronix atm, low s/n ratio

12:42 schestowitz-pi; 3) will devote all day to improving workflow, i estimate productivity went up 20-40%

12:52 schestowitz-pi; somebody who works WITH FSFE had some doubts and asked about pocock and other

12:52 schestowitz-pi; criticisms

12:52 schestowitz-pi; he later suggested I can edit wikipedia if it needs correcting

12:52 schestowitz-pi; but seeing what pocock wrote about FSFE breaking Wikipedia rulesa

12:53 schestowitz-pi; and seeing how OSI is manipulating Wikipedia

12:53 schestowitz-pi; I'd not bother with that stupid sitee

12:53 schestowitz-pi; waste of time

12:53 schestowitz-pi; it's run by people with jobs, like reputation laundering jobs

12:53 schestowitz-pi; I would be just some 'volunteer'


1 PM, February 19

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2 PM, February 19

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; Jos insecurity exploited to make people's lives 1) miserable. 2) less safe (pandemic) https://gizmodo.com/amazon-return-to-office-remote-work-big-tech-1850129574

↺ https://gizmodo.com/amazon-return-to-office-remote-work-big-tech-1850129574

14:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | Amazon CEO Says Employees Must Return to Office Starting May 1

14:55 schestowitz-pi; *job

14:57 schestowitz-pi; when sites change their feed url, evenif they announce it, it can doom them for good

14:57 schestowitz-pi; our feed urls in TM and TR have been the same for ages

14:57 schestowitz-pi; a regular loyal reader can be thousands of visits

14:57 schestowitz-pi; Google 'search' does not give that

14:57 schestowitz-pi; Most people no longer use bookmarks

14:59 schestowitz-TR2; And somehow Lunduke, who used to worm for Microsoft, cannot explain why Windows sucks? Only its competition sucks? https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-all-sorts-of-suck-mega-event

↺ https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-all-sorts-of-suck-mega-event

14:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-lunduke.substack.com | The "All Sorts of Suck" Mega Event! - by Bryan Lunduke


3 PM, February 19

15:24 schestowitz-pi; i've been removing, along the way, feeds that are in rss_since

15:24 schestowitz-pi; to avoid seeing the same things several times

15:24 schestowitz-pi; still waiting for todaay's Links batch


4 PM, February 19

16:09 schestowitz-pi; one fish started staying lower then usual, and swimming with head elevated somewhat

16:09 schestowitz-pi; not sure what to make of it, have read https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/

↺ https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/

16:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/ )

↺ https://badmanstropicalfish.com/fish-swimming-vertically/


5 PM, February 19

17:14 schestowitz-pi; going to sleep in a bit

17:14 schestowitz-pi; that fish, observed a lot today, is not doing too badly

17:14 schestowitz-pi; but I observe and take note of patterns to avoid reponding when it's too late

17:14 schestowitz-pi; i put some potions in the water

17:14 schestowitz-pi; and cleaned the filter among other things

17:14 schestowitz-pi; she turns 1.5 next week

17:14 schestowitz-pi; my posting workflow improved a lot today

17:14 schestowitz-pi; it was time well invested and i now use rrrr-v08


9 PM, February 19

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10 PM, February 19

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11 PM, February 19

23:11 schestowitz-pi; merged and other-links for Sunday not uploaded

23:11 schestowitz-pi; can they still be reconstructed for a prior date?

23:11 schestowitz-pi; checking the opml files now, thanks! :)

23:12 techrights[sec]; Tidied the feeds you had. See /tmp/roy.feeds-round02.opml

23:12 techrights[sec]; Some feeds listed as good are only technically correct and consist only of

23:12 techrights[sec]; filler or placeholders due to mistakes either in the CMS configuration or

23:12 techrights[sec]; design.

23:12 techrights[sec]; /tmp/roy.opml.py (more annotations for the defective sites)


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