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beginning of new day, September 18

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07:25 Techrights-sec2; misconfigured referrer from tuxmachines.org

07:25 Techrights-sec2; to news.tuxmachines.org looking for [Thu Aug 18 12:23:02.393560 2022] [autoindex:error] [pid 7721] [client 144.168.178.140:59432] AH01276: Cannot serve dire

07:25 Techrights-sec2; ^mispaste

07:25 Techrights-sec2; looking for :

07:25 Techrights-sec2; http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/old/

07:25 Techrights-sec2; The referrer is not set up right. There is no top-level index there..

07:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines

07:25 Techrights-sec2; Requests for the top-level index in /old/ need to go to / instead.

07:25 Techrights-sec2; Rather than turn on redirection for that server already, there is now

07:25 Techrights-sec2; a hardlink to the main index there so that if people end up in that

07:25 Techrights-sec2; directory without a specific node in mind, they are shown the new material

07:25 Techrights-sec2; That might not be what you had in mind though.

07:27 schestowitz-TR; I reckon in the mirror there is something with relative links somewhere

07:27 schestowitz-TR; like ../..

07:27 schestowitz-TR; but I am not sure where

07:27 schestowitz-TR; did you cofigure that OK to 'fix' it?

07:27 schestowitz-TR; it looks like you did

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07:33 Techrights-sec2; There seems to be a refe misconfigured referrer from tuxmachines.org

07:33 schestowitz-TR; the old site still gets more traffic than the old one

07:33 schestowitz-TR; because of the mass of material there

07:33 schestowitz-TR; but over time it'll change

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07:41 schestowitz-TR; one option is, set up 404 or error pages to redirect to front page

07:41 schestowitz-TR; many sites do this

07:41 schestowitz-TR; atm, front page has a button for "search" that goes to bland error page

07:41 schestowitz-TR; *footer link

07:41 Techrights-sec2;

07:41 Techrights-sec2; I was going to change the configuration but that would be overkill when

07:41 Techrights-sec2; adding a hardlink to the main index was a sufficient work-around

07:41 Techrights-sec2; Hmm The search part should have been commented out ages ago.

07:41 Techrights-sec2; I'll comment it out again

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07:44 schestowitz-TR; headsup: today if officially our anniversary, i drew a card last night, took ages

07:44 schestowitz-TR; tonight we look for foods

07:44 schestowitz-TR; as tomorrow all shops here are shut

07:44 schestowitz-TR; so they need to clear inventories

07:44 schestowitz-TR; this means not so much output from the sites

07:45 Techrights-sec2; thanks for spottingthat

07:45 Techrights-sec2; Equinox is not until Friday and that's not a holiday.

07:45 Techrights-sec2; At least it's not an official holiday.

07:45 Techrights-sec2; https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/fun/talk-like-a-pirate-day

↺ https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/fun/talk-like-a-pirate-day

07:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.timeanddate.com | International Talk Like a Pirate Day Fun Holiday

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8 AM, September 18

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08:42 schestowitz-TR; if you enter root at new TM, then tmux session "logs"

08:42 schestowitz-TR; watch the essl warnings at the bottom

08:42 schestowitz-TR; is this normal?

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08:48 Techrights-sec2; checking

08:48 Techrights-sec2; "server certificate does NOT include an ID which matches the server name"

08:48 Techrights-sec2; that is a slight misconfiguration of the certificate,

08:48 Techrights-sec2; as is,

08:48 Techrights-sec2; server certificate is a CA certificate

08:48 Techrights-sec2; Something was off when generating the CA and the cert, I think, but I've not

08:48 Techrights-sec2; much experience there

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9 AM, September 18

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09:19 Techrights-sec2; back

09:19 Techrights-sec2; Can you generate the required CA, key(s), and certificates?

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09:21 schestowitz-TR; I usually just run one command and enter the details

09:21 schestowitz-TR; that's what I did before

09:21 schestowitz-TR; I think you later replaced it with something else

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09:41 Techrights-sec2; Just moved things around IIRC. Either way, I am rather unfamiliar with the

09:41 Techrights-sec2; process

09:43 schestowitz-TR; I am guessing that, in any event, suppressing alerts short of outsourcing is infeasible

09:43 schestowitz-TR; unless I am mistaken

09:43 schestowitz-TR; even if you run your own CA

09:43 schestowitz-TR; of course none of that actually assures security and privacy either way

09:43 schestowitz-TR; it protects you from ISP snooping

09:43 schestowitz-TR; and cannot tell you if a site is truly secure

09:43 schestowitz-TR; the ISP can lie to you

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10 AM, September 18

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10:19 Techrights-sec2; So, should those files be re-generated? What formula did you use?

10:19 schestowitz; in centos it was

10:19 schestowitz; openssl req -new -days 365 -x509 -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -out /etc/pki/tls/certs/localhost.crt -keyout /etc/pki/tls/private/localhost.key

10:27 Techrights-sec2; thanks,

10:27 Techrights-sec2; hmm. usually there are two or three steps

10:48 Techrights-sec2; Checking Netcraft, there seems to be a problem with the name provided in

10:48 Techrights-sec2; the certificate: https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.org

↺ https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.org

10:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://news.tuxmachines.org | Netcraft

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org

10:49 schestowitz-TR; i looked some weeks ago

10:49 schestowitz-TR; and noticed a site name etc. was absent


11 AM, September 18

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11:45 schestowitz; I think I found a bug. See https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml the image...

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml

11:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Games: OpenTTD and Total War Classics Bundle

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11:58 schestowitz-TR; I think I found a bug. See https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml the image...

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/18/Games_OpenTTD_and_Total_War_Classics_Bundle.shtml

11:58 schestowitz-TR; brb daily links

11:58 schestowitz-TR; tryint not to multitsk yet

11:59 Techrights-sec2; I guess new ones should be generated then.

11:59 Techrights-sec2; checking

11:59 Techrights-sec2; It is something about how Apache2 is handling space in paths and file names.

11:59 Techrights-sec2; A work-around would be to have the script remove / replace them rather than

11:59 Techrights-sec2; escape them.

11:59 Techrights-sec2; ack


noon, September 18

12:03 schestowitz-TR; ah, I think you have changed the file name

12:03 schestowitz-TR; as it works now

12:03 schestowitz-TR; I've just finished daily links

12:06 schestowitz-TR; how was the curerent TM cert generated and when? it was many blank fields when I checked weeks ago

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12:36 Techrights-sec2; I'm not sure but am rather sure I did not do it since I have been filling in

12:36 Techrights-sec2; the various fields whenever I've done certificates. These seem to have been

12:36 Techrights-sec2; filled in with filler.

12:36 Techrights-sec2; $ ls -lhrt /etc/ssl/apache2/

12:36 Techrights-sec2; total 8.0K

12:36 Techrights-sec2; -rw------- 1 root root 1.7K Jul 19 03:52 server.key

12:36 Techrights-sec2; -rw------- 1 root root 1.5K Jul 19 03:52 server.pem


1 PM, September 18

13:13 schestowitz-TR; i suppoer we could just replace these

13:13 schestowitz-TR; *suppose

13:13 schestowitz-TR; and give a long-term expiry date

13:13 schestowitz-TR; maybe that can appease some validator/s

13:13 Techrights-sec2; ok

13:15 schestowitz-TR; by default we still link to http on TM

13:15 schestowitz-TR; i did not change these because I didn't want the change itself to be detected as suspicious

13:15 schestowitz-TR; the front end of the site is read only

13:15 schestowitz-TR; so while privacy might be a factor

13:15 schestowitz-TR; security is not

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2 PM, September 18

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14:11 Techrights-sec2; New Apache2 certificates in place:

14:11 Techrights-sec2; https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.org

↺ https://sitereport.netcraft.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.tuxmachines.org

14:11 Techrights-sec2; but for just the one host name. No wildcards etc

14:11 Techrights-sec2; openssl req -newkey rsa:4096 -x509 -sha512 -days 1111 -nodes -out server.pem -keyout server.key

14:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-sitereport.netcraft.com | Site report for https://news.tuxmachines.org | Netcraft

↺ https://news.tuxmachines.org

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14:30 schestowitz-TR; thanks for swapping the cert

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I hope this will quiet down some more clients

14:30 schestowitz-TR; anbd services

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I still think that the www will change for the worse in the coming decade

14:30 schestowitz-TR; but I don't know how, nobody can predict >software< that far

14:30 schestowitz-TR; ryan says FB fell 80%

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I did not check

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I saw adobe fall 17% in a day

14:30 schestowitz-TR; it bouhgt some utter shit (web-based crap; wasm)

14:30 schestowitz-TR; trying to stay relevant

14:30 schestowitz-TR; our into and outro video bits were all made with Canva]

14:30 schestowitz-TR; Web-based

14:30 schestowitz-TR; not shabby for a budget of $0

14:30 schestowitz-TR; I think last I checked they added some paywalls for the same things

14:30 schestowitz-TR; so it's a good thing I made enough of these

14:30 schestowitz-TR; atm I don't have video topics/ideas

14:30 schestowitz-TR; and epo series is delayed a bit

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14:40 Techrights-sec2; ack

14:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe" |nitter.it https://nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105 | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105

↺ https://nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//nitter.eu/bobpoekert/status/1570103373906735105

14:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-bob poekert (@bobpoekert): "software that was made before everyone was tracking and optimizing for engagement is better in a way that's hard to describe"|nitter.it

14:42 schestowitz-TR; I've given ocean trends instructions on add and update

14:42 schestowitz-TR; assuming the keys would work ok

14:42 schestowitz-TR; today news is very slow

14:42 schestowitz-TR; it's more dead than liz ii

14:42 Techrights-sec2; ack

14:43 schestowitz-TR; yes, that is esp. useful on quiet sundays

14:43 schestowitz-TR; i'ms till trying to think of GOOD topics to cover

14:43 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I have a brainstorming strategt

14:43 schestowitz-TR; lists of things and sites to check

14:43 schestowitz-TR; even regarding covid-19 it's hard to find data points

14:46 Techrights-sec2; Even the Fediverse is slowing down a lot. There were never many posts with

14:46 Techrights-sec2; links and now there are even fewer so checking even once a week is mostly

14:46 Techrights-sec2; a waste of time. Checking once every other week might be worth the effort,

14:46 Techrights-sec2; maybe.

14:46 Techrights-sec2; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/womens-march-russia-trump.html

↺ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/womens-march-russia-trump.html

14:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nytimes.com | How Russian Trolls Helped Keep the Womens March Out of Lock Step - The New York Times

14:46 Techrights-sec2; Twitter and Facebook

14:46 Techrights-sec2; were used by astoturfers to play the public

14:47 schestowitz-TR; fediverse will die

14:47 schestowitz-TR; the slowdown was long coming

14:47 schestowitz-TR; it peaked like 5 eyars ago

14:47 schestowitz-TR; mnore and more people will, over time, realise they are wasting their time

14:47 schestowitz-TR; i just want to point out that in 2022 I did not quit what I joined in 2009

14:47 schestowitz-TR; the same domain names, sure..

14:47 schestowitz-TR; but not the same things anymore

14:49 Techrights-sec2; Yes that's quite true though the seeds of what it has become were already

14:49 Techrights-sec2; growing by then anyway.

14:50 schestowitz-TR; in 2010 twitter canceled the likes of mubarak for torturing people

14:50 schestowitz-TR; in 2020 people cancel a book author for insisting on biology

14:50 schestowitz-TR; platform owners and hordes of manipultors do not want power to be challenged

14:50 schestowitz-TR; rather, than use libel and stuff (e.g. rms) to overthrow those who challenged power

14:50 schestowitz-TR; brexit, tories, etc.

14:50 Techrights-sec2; Or for insisting on feminism. That may be the true target of those influencing

14:50 Techrights-sec2; the attacking brigades.

14:50 Techrights-sec2; Brexit was half the Kremlin's doing

14:50 Techrights-sec2; The tories are a means to an end there.

14:51 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Four years later, Rushkoff has turned his experience with the wealthy, the technology-addled, and the selfish-solutionist wing of Silicon Valley into a book called Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires. It's great." https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn

↺ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn

14:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 13 Sep 2022 Survival of the Richest Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

14:51 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Survival of the Richest https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn "The super-rich attendees at the conference were obsessed with "The Event" civil unrest, environmental collapse, some other end-of-the-world scenario"

↺ https://pluralistic.net/2022/09/13/collapse-porn/#collapse-porn

14:52 schestowitz-TR; not much debate in twitter about replacing oil

14:52 schestowitz-TR; or other daring topics

14:52 schestowitz-TR; that might even get one suspended

14:52 schestowitz-TR; cannot question bill gates either

14:52 schestowitz-TR; or osi


3 PM, September 18

15:04 Techrights-sec2; Nope. Anything other than praise for His Billness is heresy.

15:04 Techrights-sec2; He did not only personally invent The Internet but also anything good about

15:04 Techrights-sec2; computers. /sarcasm

15:06 schestowitz-TR; spoke to my dad for an hour and he said a good billioanire might be bezos the wife

15:06 schestowitz-TR; but could nolt even name her!

15:06 schestowitz-TR; I said, so you seem to know, basd on "the press"

15:06 schestowitz-TR; that she does good

15:06 schestowitz-TR; but you don't even know her name!!

15:06 schestowitz-TR; of course she was always there with jeff

15:06 schestowitz-TR; running the business with him

15:06 schestowitz-TR; but he attributes tax evasion and other things just to the husband

15:06 schestowitz-TR; and he forgets who owns the media

15:06 schestowitz-TR; even jeff bought some of the media

15:06 schestowitz-TR; to set the tone

15:06 schestowitz-TR; the media became a "line of defence"

15:10 Techrights-sec2; ack

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15:12 schestowitz-TR; in persuit of topics I've just ecchedked twitter analytics

15:12 schestowitz-TR; it's still going down

15:12 schestowitz-TR; that site is dying

15:12 schestowitz-TR; this is based on a dataset of 951k tweets

15:12 schestowitz-TR; you could easily see twitter faking it to impress musk and then it fell off

15:12 schestowitz-TR; as a side note

15:12 schestowitz-TR; I am 100% sure that in blog posts and news sites that I read

15:12 schestowitz-TR; the authors seldom cite tweets like they did in past years

15:12 schestowitz-TR; which means they don't pay much attention to it

15:15 Techrights-sec2; Interoperability and vendor lock-in are always (most unfortunately) relevant

15:15 Techrights-sec2; topics. There were some links about how the EU now consides the exit costs

15:15 Techrights-sec2; to be part of the TCO of a system. That, if ever taken seriously, would

15:15 Techrights-sec2; absolutely kill M$.

15:18 Techrights-sec2; old: https://gizmodo.com/cory-doctorow-copyright-laws-tech-antitrust-1849376858

↺ https://gizmodo.com/cory-doctorow-copyright-laws-tech-antitrust-1849376858

15:18 Techrights-sec2; protocols

15:18 Techrights-sec2; dmca etc

15:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gizmodo.com | Cory Doctorow On 20 Years Of Copyright Wars

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15:33 schestowitz-TR; he mention the issue this past week

15:33 schestowitz-TR; I think I found a "topic"

15:33 schestowitz-TR; brb

15:33 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:33 schestowitz-TR; i tried to present it clearly

15:33 Techrights-sec2; checking

15:33 Techrights-sec2; It's essential to mention the OEM monopolies and the difficulty in getting

15:33 Techrights-sec2; whitebox system too.

15:33 Techrights-sec2; let alone pre-installed GNU/Linux or FreeBSD (or FreeBSD distro)

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4 PM, September 18

16:00 schestowitz-TR; added odf and chart

16:00 schestowitz-TR; i cannot find an actual video of what torvalds said last week

16:00 schestowitz-TR; at the event

16:00 schestowitz-TR; assuming he was there saying things about rusta and more

16:00 schestowitz-TR; I don't want lf contractors to have leeway to just quote-mine him

16:00 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l1qazhTADxY

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l1qazhTADxY

16:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Creator of Linux Linus Torvalds believes "Nothing better than C" - Invidious

16:01 schestowitz; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b5-vGyflhaE

↺ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b5-vGyflhaE

16:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Founder of Linux (Linus Torvalds )about one and ONLY Programming language - Invidious

16:01 schestowitz; new uploads, but I cannot find what he said last week

16:01 schestowitz; about rust in 6.1.x

16:12 Techrights-sec2; https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/16/rust_in_the_linux_kernel/

↺ https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/16/rust_in_the_linux_kernel/

16:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Rust is coming to the Linux kernel The Register

16:12 Techrights-sec2; https://medium.com/codex/rust-may-make-it-into-the-next-linux-kernel-after-all-d29f659b18e8

↺ https://medium.com/codex/rust-may-make-it-into-the-next-linux-kernel-after-all-d29f659b18e8

16:12 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Rust may make it into the next Linux kernel after all | by Nikhil Adithyan | CodeX | Sep, 2022 | Medium

16:15 schestowitz-TR; thanks, i saw and linked to all but one of these

16:15 schestowitz-TR; but could not find

16:15 schestowitz-TR; photos

16:15 schestowitz-TR; or videos

16:16 schestowitz-TR; both article from jsvn have link sin bright blue

16:16 schestowitz-TR; about Apple MacBook

16:16 schestowitz-TR; they link to apple.com

16:16 schestowitz-TR; both articlesd

16:16 schestowitz-TR; special link

16:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe affiliate marketing

16:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe that also biases the topics they cover

16:32 schestowitz-TR; ---

16:32 schestowitz-TR; draft

16:32 schestowitz-TR; wait, I will add a photo of his dad

16:33 schestowitz-TR; it's like comparing assange after 12+ years of limb to shipman (dad)

16:33 schestowitz-TR; *limbo

16:33 schestowitz-TR; added to draft

16:33 schestowitz-TR; nils looks like his older brother :/

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5 PM, September 18

17:05 Techrights-sec2; could be affliated marketing or the same corporate press release

17:19 schestowitz-TR; they did not consider the factor or real health

17:19 schestowitz-TR; when treating the personl like there were issues pertaining to mental health

17:19 schestowitz-TR; but as we all know, nowadays there is also a tendency to overmedicate and over-diagnose people with... stuff

17:20 schestowitz-TR; and then sell them solutions -- ones they do not need and may in fact create problems

17:20 schestowitz-TR; maybe he went on snacks and cola diet

17:20 schestowitz-TR; and no exercise

17:20 schestowitz-TR; in 2022 you can see a big belly

17:20 schestowitz-TR; but he barely shows himself

17:20 schestowitz-TR; that typically indicates he prefers not to be seen

17:31 schestowitz-TR; bbl

17:31 schestowitz-TR; going to buy discounted food before shops close for a day

17:31 schestowitz-TR; btw, in "other sites" in TM you can now see what happens when it is an empty set)

17:31 Techrights-sec2; ack


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7 PM, September 18

19:50 Techrights-sec2; CSS now hides that element if it is empty (no definition list)

19:50 Techrights-sec2; Adding another feed or two wouldn't hurt though. Recommendations?

19:50 Techrights-sec2; $ grep '^h' rss-since-scraper.config | wc -l

19:50 Techrights-sec2; 5

19:50 Techrights-sec2; https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ ?

↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/

19:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ )

↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/

19:50 Techrights-sec2; https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all ?

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all

19:52 schestowitz-TR; https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/ is good

↺ https://linuxgizmos.com/feed/

19:52 schestowitz-TR; I've been friends with the site's founder and they linked to tuxmachines in every page for years\

19:52 schestowitz-TR; https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all is full of affiliate masrketing spam

↺ https://www.tomshardware.com/feeds/all

19:52 schestowitz-TR; i know because I check it

19:52 schestowitz-TR; so without filtering it's not a good fit for TM


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20:41 schestowitz-TR; your capsule is offline


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