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1 AM, July 18

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3 AM, July 18

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6 AM, July 18

06:44 Techrights-sec; excellent

06:46 schestowitz-TR; I've only installed openssh so far, we should write down all the steps and things we install

06:46 schestowitz-TR; we can also migrate links, git etc.

06:55 schestowitz-TR; One forecast tells me tomorrow it'll be 40 degrees here -- an all-time record AFAIK, but 2 other forecasts/sources do not agree

06:56 Techrights-sec; can the new system reach the old system via the internal LAN?

06:56 Techrights-sec; If so, that route would be the fast way to use wget to spider the old

06:56 Techrights-sec; site into static pages for the archive

06:56 schestowitz-TR; for now I don't plan to copy across the old nodes, as they have things in them that depend on Drupal

06:57 Techrights-sec; ok, so we'll leave the old stuff in drupal. how long will the drupal archive

06:57 Techrights-sec; be left running? It should be converted to static at some point.

06:59 schestowitz-TR; yes, but not yet. copying from one container to another is simple, but I don't want to f* around with susan's multi-page stories

06:59 schestowitz-TR; there are many of them

06:59 schestowitz-TR; you can access the new TR container via hv in the usual way lxde-attack *IIRC

06:59 schestowitz-TR; *lxd

06:59 schestowitz-TR; and then adduser git

06:59 schestowitz-TR; adduser linkx etc.

06:59 schestowitz-TR; apk add openssh

06:59 schestowitz; https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/

↺ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/

06:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/ )

↺ https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-openssh-server-on-alpine-linux-including-docker/


7 AM, July 18

07:00 schestowitz-TR; we've left systemd behind for now

07:02 Techrights-sec; The ability to delete records is now available in the mockup

07:02 Techrights-sec; it's getting closer to a proof-of-concept tool

07:02 Techrights-sec; Next, adding navigation capabilities to the extraction script

07:02 Techrights-sec; TR or TM_

07:02 Techrights-sec; ?

07:02 Techrights-sec; ok

07:02 Techrights-sec; excellent, though we don't know what is brewing in that regard over in redmond

07:02 Techrights-sec; there's been nearly complete silence regarding their acquisition of lennart

07:02 Techrights-sec; so they must have some nasty plans in the works

07:02 schestowitz-TR; on tm vm, run ps aux

07:02 schestowitz-TR; and see how thin it is

07:02 schestowitz-TR; I plan to pay kaniini soon

07:03 Techrights-sec; I've done that before and appreciated the leanness

07:04 schestowitz-TR; kaniini wants us to keep tidy,, with git or ci or...

07:04 schestowitz-TR; which I agree with, now we have a chance to tidy up a lot

07:04 schestowitz-TR; whilelegay still runs OK, we can pass things over one at a time without any deadlines

07:12 Techrights-sec; ok git ought to be the first thing installed then

07:12 Techrights-sec; I've added the package Git

07:12 Techrights-sec; later, the hard part of adding and managing a repository

07:12 Techrights-sec; I presume we should have system accounts for all participants?

07:13 schestowitz-TR; *while legacy

07:13 schestowitz-TR; yes, I think it's how it works now, with keys

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07:32 schestowitz-TR; I think you can migrate /home/git as is, to the new machine

07:32 schestowitz-TR; then I can register git.techrights.org to point to the new machine

07:32 schestowitz-TR; piece-widse migration

07:36 Techrights-sec; no that's the TR Git repository, the TM one is a separate project

07:36 Techrights-sec; or, wait, which one are we talking about? I've been thinking about TM

07:36 Techrights-sec; but should we look at TR first?

07:38 schestowitz-TR; ah, ok, you want to have TM with its own new repo, which makes sense too

07:38 schestowitz-TR; can adduser git and set that afresh

07:38 schestowitz-TR; there can be git.tuxmachines.org with the same ip as "news"

07:38 schestowitz-TR; you can set your commits as anon username

07:38 schestowitz-TR; the TR git has just a few bits and pieces from TM but not much

07:39 schestowitz-TR; we can migrate those files over

07:40 Techrights-sec; ack

07:42 schestowitz-TR; at some point we can move tmux over as well, with monitor-techrights.sh

07:42 schestowitz-TR; I recreated the session last ight after tghe reboots (rather, vm restarts for xfs)repair)

07:42 schestowitz-TR; you can read that in the irc logs circa 10pm


8 AM, July 18

08:07 Techrights-sec; added tmux to TM-new also

08:09 schestowitz-TR; thanks, after 12 years (even 12 years, 3 months) we can leave the boycottn username behind too, I suppose

08:09 schestowitz-TR; the old domain is still used a lot

08:09 schestowitz-TR; some scripts will need changing if the username gets changed, but at least the reasons

08:09 schestowitz-TR; aren't IBM and Microsoft claiming "offence"

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08:21 schestowitz-TR; finishing work in 40 mins

08:21 schestowitz-TR; around midday we'll be out to cycle for food, so 4 hours from now

08:21 schestowitz-TR; price of things went up, but discounts exist still, just a tad harder to find (where and when)

08:24 Techrights-sec; tm-update can go by record number (not pratical, but precise) or by URL

08:24 Techrights-sec; to either update or delete now

08:26 schestowitz-TR; url is good

08:26 schestowitz-TR; to explain workflow in nutshell

08:26 schestowitz-TR; rianne or I found article

08:26 schestowitz-TR; we knew we had seen it

08:26 schestowitz-TR; opened browser

08:26 schestowitz-TR; typed in headline similar, e.g. mint

08:26 schestowitz-TR; it autompletes

08:26 schestowitz-TR; "that's the one I wanted to add to"

08:26 schestowitz-TR; so the address is easy to retrieve

08:26 schestowitz-TR; I think ideally the update will go at the top

08:26 schestowitz-TR; and then the node needs to be bumped up in the site to indicate the update

08:27 Techrights-sec; yes, though it is a bit brittle but that's the cost of customization

08:27 Techrights-sec; I figure it's a bit easier and takes out unnecessary extra steps and cognitive

08:27 Techrights-sec; effort

08:27 Techrights-sec; The updated nodes get bumped to the current day, hours are not tracked

08:28 schestowitz-TR; iirc, most irc clients will detect change in date (or title with "Update" added)

08:28 schestowitz-TR; and then display as new

08:28 schestowitz-TR; not irc lients

08:28 schestowitz-TR; rss clients

08:28 Techrights-sec; ack


9 AM, July 18

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09:29 schestowitz-TR; today 2 videos and one manually curated, devuan

09:29 schestowitz-TR; going to clean all the stuff there, then record re epo

09:29 schestowitz-TR; i slept too well, knowing we have the two new vms

09:29 schestowitz-TR; overslept by 3.5 hours

09:29 Techrights-sec; excellent. the EPO stuff is strategically important

09:29 Techrights-sec; that's good on occasion

09:29 Techrights-sec; probably needed this time

09:31 schestowitz-TR; it's still weekend anyway

09:31 schestowitz-TR; today's links will be quick to clean, you added just 3 to an already-small pool of automated

09:31 schestowitz-TR; I want to work on the sites later

09:31 schestowitz-TR; but I fell behind on epo videos

09:31 schestowitz-TR; partly because it's too hot here to record comfortably

09:31 Techrights-sec; today is Monday already

09:31 Techrights-sec; yes it varies but on average keeps getting smaller

09:31 Techrights-sec; I've been working on ideas for the navigation.

09:32 schestowitz-TR; when I said it's weekend I meant the news cyclke has not begun yet

09:32 schestowitz-TR; so better to sleep more now, less the following night

09:32 schestowitz-TR; strategic storage of capacity to work

09:33 Techrights-sec; yes. the weekends are even slower. now it is also the middle of summer for

09:33 Techrights-sec; the northern hemisphere

09:35 schestowitz-TR; I remmeber summers as a student in the faculty looking for linux picks in summer

09:35 schestowitz-TR; they had events like LinuxWorld (IDG)

09:35 schestowitz-TR; so no lack of news

09:35 schestowitz-TR; just a little slower

09:35 schestowitz-TR; but that was 16 years and and I was paid by netscape to post some stuff

09:35 schestowitz-TR; like Linux gadgets when the OS was not yet de facto standard

09:35 schestowitz-TR; and growing fast nevertheless

09:35 schestowitz-TR; a lot still used wince

09:46 Techrights-sec; ack


10 AM, July 18

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11 AM, July 18

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noon, July 18

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1 PM, July 18

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2 PM, July 18

14:00 Techrights-sec; some simple navigation has been added, and the workflow.sh file tweaked slightly

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14:24 schestowitz-TR; back, new epo material

14:24 schestowitz-TR; new food

14:24 schestowitz-TR; catching up

14:24 schestowitz-TR; the epo issues are very relevant to many orgs

14:24 schestowitz-TR; and the ilo rulings become precedents

14:24 schestowitz-TR; it's a long doc, will take a while to htmlify (and tsxity/gemify) it

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3 PM, July 18

15:02 Techrights-sec; ack

15:02 Techrights-sec; ack

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4 PM, July 18

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16:50 Techrights-sec; ack

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7 PM, July 18

19:11 Techrights-sec; just tweaked the nav menu css to center much better

19:11 Techrights-sec; in the mockup

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19:33 Techrights-sec; it looks like SQLite3 could still be used even with a local search function:

19:33 Techrights-sec; https://www.sqlite.org/lockingv3.html

↺ https://www.sqlite.org/lockingv3.html

19:33 Techrights-sec; since multiple concurrent reads are ok

19:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.sqlite.org | File Locking And Concurrency In SQLite Version 3

19:34 schestowitz-TR; readsing draft

19:34 schestowitz-TR; excellent, having an index for it accessible would enable a lot of slicing

19:34 schestowitz-TR; and without the extra complexity of durpal schemas

19:34 schestowitz-TR; they change every major release of drupl

19:34 schestowitz-TR; very dumb design, I know

19:34 schestowitz-TR; have you done further work on the new VMs?

19:35 Techrights-sec; ack

19:35 Techrights-sec; not since earlier, added Git and tmux but did nothing more

19:35 Techrights-sec; it was too big a change in thinking and I was on a roll for a while with

19:35 Techrights-sec; the scripts

19:36 schestowitz-TR; for me it is a game of survival with the heat

19:36 schestowitz-TR; trying not to sweat

19:36 schestowitz-TR; took a nap a while ago

19:36 schestowitz-TR; I will clearn my rss feeds before work

19:52 Techrights-sec; siesta

19:52 Techrights-sec; the tm-extract-posts-sql.pl script now adds minor navigation links to each

19:52 Techrights-sec; static page as part of the generation of each page. Once each page is

19:52 Techrights-sec; written, the result is of course still static, so it is fast to use

19:52 Techrights-sec; and external search engines then would have something to follow

19:57 Techrights-sec; np

19:57 Techrights-sec; I've forgotten FCGI again but if I can jog my memory it should be practical

19:57 Techrights-sec; to implement a simple search.

19:57 schestowitz-TR; Oh, I se now

19:57 schestowitz-TR; very nice


8 PM, July 18

20:15 schestowitz-TR; 0/

20:15 schestowitz-TR; humid...


10 PM, July 18

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