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04:26 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> FSF wrote only 1 blog post in the past 16 days. It is this one :/ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/gnu-press/beat-the-heat-with-gnu-summer-swag
04:28 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> I think FSF wastes far too much time on social control media (it could blog instead), which is disposable and a poor outlet for outreach. To me, their use of Twitter sends a confusing message...
04:57 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Jimmy Savile's protectors, who now take bribes from Bill Gates to cover up what he did with Jeffrey Esptein, use Microsoft shill "Rob Enderle" as an "expert". BBC is corrupt beyond repair. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busin<techrights-news> Jimmy Savile's protectors, who now take bribes from Bill Gates to cover up what he did with Jeffrey Esptein, use Microsoft shill "Rob Enderle" as an "expert". BBC is corrupt beyond
04:57 schestowitz-TR; repair. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61742884ess-61742884
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08:34 schestowitz-TR; i think activelow is back with a new nym
08:34 schestowitz-TR; but I am not sure
08:34 schestowitz-TR; I will know for wusre when he says "of cause!"
08:34 Techrights-sec2; ack
08:41 Techrights-sec2; are there any groups following and/or fighting M$ misrepresentation of
08:41 Techrights-sec2; topics inside Wikipedia or the Wikimedia universe in general?
08:41 schestowitz-TR; good question, but nothing I know of
08:41 schestowitz-TR; you won't like me saying it, but the problem is much more vast than Microsoft
08:41 schestowitz-TR; and wikipedia interference is not limited to the private sector
08:41 schestowitz-TR; I've grown unhappy esp. when it comes to nonscience articles
08:41 schestowitz-TR; or political subjects
08:41 schestowitz-TR; you don't get the full picture at all
08:41 schestowitz-TR; even the rerefrences are accordinfgly biased
08:41 schestowitz-TR; and OSI says remove the references that are "homophobic" (they're not)
08:41 schestowitz-TR; so I basically assume wikipedia will stagnate
08:41 schestowitz-TR; victim of its own perceived importantce
08:41 schestowitz-TR; russia/putin already blocks it
08:41 schestowitz-TR; at least partly
08:42 schestowitz-TR; rather than try to "fix it"
08:42 schestowitz-TR; which would not work because we known who owns and controls wikipedia
08:42 schestowitz-TR; it's a platform control and centraliusation issue, same for twitter and SandbergBook
08:42 Techrights-sec2; Oh, I understand that, and I have questions about the viability of Wikipedia's
08:42 Techrights-sec2; very nature, but since it's there, it has to be dealt with one way or another.
08:42 Techrights-sec2; There are no non-political subjects these days.
08:42 Techrights-sec2; especially in regards to technology since computers are about control:
08:42 Techrights-sec2; either people control their computers or their computers control them
08:42 Techrights-sec2; and there are many monied interests that are attracted to the power that
08:42 Techrights-sec2; would be concentrated in their hands as fewer systems control more people
08:43 schestowitz-TR; that is true
08:43 schestowitz-TR; you put it succinctly enough
08:43 schestowitz-TR; should we do an article to that effect, with focus on wikipedia?
08:44 Techrights-sec2; ok
08:44 Techrights-sec2; the above is mostly just a paraphrase of what RMS has said many times
08:44 Techrights-sec2; perhaps there is a relevant page from his writings that could be quoted
08:45 schestowitz-TR; I think it would be better not to name wikipedia or microsoft
08:45 schestowitz-TR; excepot as examples
08:45 schestowitz-TR; but to focus on the underlying problem and maybe the Internet
08:45 schestowitz-TR; I work for a very dumb company (as in, management) and they will never "get" it
08:46 schestowitz-TR; you mention RMS writings
08:46 schestowitz-TR; on this particular topic, like misinformation, I don't think he wrote much nor does he specialise (nor do we)
08:46 schestowitz-TR; but on this topic a better authority might be that mozorov (guessing the name, cannot remember) from eastern europe
08:46 schestowitz-TR; who wrote about misuse of tech by authocrats
08:47 Techrights-sec2; he wrote a lot about who should control the computer
08:47 Techrights-sec2; that goes back to even his GNU Manifesto days
08:48 schestowitz-TR; wikipedia (or similar) are less about conrol of the computer
08:48 schestowitz-TR; buit control over information and its dissemination
08:48 schestowitz-TR; related issue, but not the same
08:48 schestowitz-TR; you could download wikipedia and edit it locally
08:48 schestowitz-TR; that would still not tackle the issue of the upstream "project" distributing revisionism
08:49 Techrights-sec2; right
08:51 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks = originally a wiki
08:51 schestowitz-TR; then editorially controlled
08:51 schestowitz-TR; with some drupal aat the core, IIRC
08:51 schestowitz-TR; wikileaks = we have raw information, let's collaborate on interpretatioin and dissemination
08:51 Techrights-sec2; ack
08:51 schestowitz-TR; governments did not have edit privs like in wikipedia
08:51 schestowitz-TR; the cloest they could get is moles
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09:46 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> BBC, bribed by Jeffrey Epstein's enabler Bill Gates and run by Microsoft UK, uses the Microsoft lobbying term "big tech" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-61817647
09:46 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft: let's stop talking about crimes of corporations and instead about the size of corporations ("big tech"). Also Microsoft: people don't dislike Microsoft because of Microsoft's crime and corruption, they just envy is size and "success"
10:12 Techrights-sec2; ack
10:12 Techrights-sec2; notice how every last article about MSIE glossed over the anti-competive
10:12 Techrights-sec2; practices with which it is inexorably intertwined with, along with the points
10:12 Techrights-sec2; brought up by Ryan in the guest post about it not really being removed.
10:12 Techrights-sec2; It looks like the narrative they are trying to cultivate is that M$ has
10:12 Techrights-sec2; moved on and turned a new leaf or some such utter bullshit
10:14 schestowitz-TR; thjey also cultivate enderle as [buzzword] expert
10:14 schestowitz-TR; the media when bribed is not journalism
10:15 Techrights-sec2; yes they try to pretend that; he is just another say-for-pay M$ shill and
10:15 Techrights-sec2; one of the more dyed-in-the-wool forms of shill at that
10:15 Techrights-sec2; IIRC he had officially retired several times already
10:15 Techrights-sec2; stenography and press releases are not journalism
10:15 Techrights-sec2; nor are M$ talkin points
10:16 schestowitz-TR; MS Jack does semm to have retrired for good
10:20 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Assange helped show what's wrong with social control media (he borrowed this term from me!). It was weaponised against him by making up totally bogus scandals or inciting online mobs/groups (tribalism) against him, based on fabrication, giving many people different reasons to hate a man who helped expose corruption and war crimes
10:27 Techrights-sec2; ack
10:27 Techrights-sec2; s/reasons/false reasons/
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13:36 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Michigan https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/michigan-starts-dismantling-its-forfeiture-reforms-to-make-it-easier-to-steal-cash-from-people-at-airports/ | Source: Techdirt
13:37 schestowitz-TR; just went out for exercise
13:37 schestowitz-TR; about 1.5 hours walk
13:37 schestowitz-TR; came back with ~20 kg
13:37 schestowitz-TR; inc. new large aquarium for the fish
13:37 Techrights-sec2; nice
13:37 Techrights-sec2; how many liters in size?
13:38 schestowitz-TR; almost 20
13:38 schestowitz-TR; with filters
13:38 schestowitz-TR; glass exterior
13:38 schestowitz-TR; the older tank can be used for tratment
13:38 schestowitz-TR; the fish are small
13:38 Techrights-sec2; larger are easier to maintain, their more stable but you have some experience
13:38 Techrights-sec2; with fish now
13:38 Techrights-sec2; ^they're
13:40 schestowitz-TR; how the idea came about is is own storyt
13:40 schestowitz-TR; the excuse was an anniversary
13:40 schestowitz-TR; but there's more to it
13:40 schestowitz-TR; I was not happy with the pet store
13:40 schestowitz-TR; went to another large chain
13:40 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:40 schestowitz-TR; the pet store puts some fancy fish in little prisons
13:40 schestowitz-TR; and some of them look dead
13:40 schestowitz-TR; I cannot forgive them for it , it is unnecessarily cruel
13:43 schestowitz-TR; prior to the loss of wifi on the pi (kernel issue; that's also why the throttling script stopped working afaik)
13:43 schestowitz-TR; the lights on the pi gave them some entertainment
13:43 schestowitz-TR; depending on the traffic LOL!
13:43 schestowitz-TR; the lights still work
13:43 schestowitz-TR; but they are near the router with a wired connection
13:43 Techrights-sec2; that's strange about the wifi on the RPi
13:43 Techrights-sec2; :)
13:48 schestowitz-TR; thebackstory is
13:48 schestowitz-TR; a) I had extra time (just the wikipedia article to do tolday)
13:48 schestowitz-TR; b) wanted to "take a hiuke" walk)
13:48 schestowitz-TR; while upstairs I thought of rianne feeding fish in the canal
13:48 schestowitz-TR; d) when feeding the fish I saw signes of aging in the 10-year-old tank
13:48 schestowitz-TR; 3) they turn one soon, in retrospect
13:48 schestowitz-TR; so taking some of these combined, I decided to do a little traip with shopping as a perk
13:48 schestowitz-TR; didn't imagine it would be so heavy, expected not to sweat at all
13:48 schestowitz-TR; 16 degrees outside
13:48 schestowitz-TR; at some point the OS on the pi will work as expecdted again
13:48 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure it's the kernel
13:48 schestowitz-TR; then I can use it for lighting up the fish
13:48 schestowitz-TR; and maybe write a better pgoram for them
13:48 schestowitz-TR; with a 24hr program
13:48 schestowitz-TR; not based on cron jobs like TR bulletins ;)
13:48 schestowitz-TR; maybe at one point I can solder in the button and do a reminder mechanism for feeding
13:48 schestowitz-TR; a colleague of mine did something like this f
13:48 schestowitz-TR; fish tank alerts
13:48 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:48 Techrights-sec2; I have not clue as to the cause there.
13:49 Techrights-sec2; can control lights directly from the GPIO with this:
13:49 Techrights-sec2; https://www.olimex.com/Products/Duino/Shields/PWR-SWITCH/
13:49 Techrights-sec2; oh, wait, that's for the EU plugs. never mind
13:50 schestowitz-TR; the plan is, wait for kernel-raspberrypi
13:50 schestowitz-TR; or whatever it is called
13:50 schestowitz-TR; not linux-image
13:50 schestowitz-TR; then try to reboot
13:50 schestowitz-TR; and see what version if running
13:50 schestowitz-TR; shouuld be 5.15+
13:50 schestowitz-TR; not 5.10
13:55 schestowitz-TR; to be fair, it failed gracefully enough to at least boot something, so it still runs, but in a more limited mode
13:55 schestowitz-TR; windows would probably be infinite booting loop
13:55 schestowitz-TR; i.e. bricked
13:55 schestowitz-TR; unless you rebuild the whole thing from scratch
13:55 Techrights-sec2; https://thepihut.com/products/raspberry-pi-relay-board
13:55 schestowitz-TR; I know a new kernel can boot OK on that physical machine
13:55 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:55 schestowitz-TR; because it worked OK off of the USB clone
13:55 schestowitz-TR; but those are slow to boot
13:55 schestowitz-TR; both on rianne's and mine
13:55 schestowitz-TR; even on the blue port
13:55 schestowitz-TR; installing some wifi updates on the pi now
13:55 schestowitz-TR; nonfree firmware
13:55 schestowitz-TR; but I am waiting for a full kernel update
13:55 schestowitz-TR; before rebooting
13:56 schestowitz-TR; which causes downtime
13:56 schestowitz-TR; and takes me off the top of the Lupa "list"
13:56 schestowitz-TR; for ~2 weeks
13:56 Techrights-sec2; downtime is important to avoid, but it is very unclear what is causing it there
13:58 schestowitz-TR; when booting with a monitor attached I do see some alerts related to kernel
13:58 schestowitz-TR; too fast for me to read
13:58 schestowitz-TR; and I don't think I can pause
13:58 schestowitz-TR; maybe I can run dmesg
13:58 schestowitz-TR; but either way it uses an old kernel
13:58 schestowitz-TR; older than what's on the clone
13:58 schestowitz-TR; or rianne's pi
13:58 schestowitz-TR; it is possible some upgrade packages like iptables expect an equally new kernel
13:58 schestowitz-TR; but it is not there
13:59 Techrights-sec2; iptables is replaced with nftables
14:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, iptables is tentatively dumped already
14:00 schestowitz-TR; but some compatibility layer was in place, I think
14:00 schestowitz-TR; everything worked OK before the full system update
14:00 schestowitz-TR; followed by the outage, which merely forced a belated reboot
14:09 Techrights-sec2; hmm
14:14 schestowitz-TR; we've just discussed where to put the tank and when
14:14 schestowitz-TR; I do want them to get the lights back
14:14 schestowitz-TR; when mr. schneider or whatshisname updates the pi
14:14 schestowitz-TR; fixing the kernel bits
14:14 schestowitz-TR; not adding packages.microsoft.com covertly
14:15 Techrights-sec2; let's hope that there is no more sabotage from M$, but they do need to clear
14:15 Techrights-sec2; house especially on the board of directors and remove the saboteurs directlky
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14:25 TechrightsBN; Hello World! I'm TechrightsBN running phIRCe v0.77
14:27 schestowitz-TR; what software do you use to make thew charts for measures?
14:27 Techrights-sec2; gnuplot
14:27 Techrights-sec2; it can be made prettier but I have not spent time in that direction yet
14:28 schestowitz-TR; ok
14:28 schestowitz-TR; I used to do scruipting with imagemagick
14:28 schestowitz-TR; you can do very complex ooperations there
14:28 schestowitz-TR; also gimp from CLI
14:28 Techrights-sec2; yes imagemagick is quite good but for rather other purposes
14:28 Techrights-sec2; gimp scripts nicely
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15:00 schestowitz-TR; seems like even automount for external drive isn't quite there with the current kernel
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I will wait for a newer kernel to come in
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I cannot force that or compile one without risk greater issues
15:00 schestowitz-TR; in the past it automounted as I recall it
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I would only umount it when done before unplugging
15:00 Techrights-sec2; that can be set in /etc/fstab maybe but with a lot of different settings than
15:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, I checked fstab
15:00 Techrights-sec2; for the 'normal' system drives
15:00 schestowitz-TR; buit would rather not mess about
15:00 schestowitz-TR; it was not necessary before
15:00 schestowitz-TR; for no I do backups over ssh
15:00 schestowitz-TR; not to external drive or a clone
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I don't want to clone a system in such a state
15:00 schestowitz-TR; only its pertinent /home files
15:00 schestowitz-TR; in theory I could even revert back to the latest clone and then copy in /home
15:00 schestowitz-TR; but would rather not spend time doing that
15:07 Techrights-sec2; ack
15:08 schestowitz-TR; checed backup
15:08 schestowitz-TR; it's complete now
15:08 schestowitz-TR; I'll get the pi working as before, one way or another
15:08 schestowitz-TR; but thr safe way
15:08 Techrights-sec2; ack
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20:21 schestowitz-TR; just did a one-hour video on wikipedia
20:21 schestowitz-TR; after a little biy of dodka tbh
20:21 schestowitz-TR; but just a littlke
20:22 schestowitz-TR; no, not enough to cause typos
20:22 schestowitz-TR; I have lots of typos where when I am sober a swll
20:22 schestowitz-TR; *well
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23:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This IPFS video admits it's "affiliate link", basically spam for "unstoppable domains" . Fails to actually show what IPFS does and how it works, mostly promotes this rather edge company. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GERBV2Bv-A4
23:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=GERBV2Bv-A4
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23:44 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/ZacharyEndrulat/status/1538189138297503744#m
23:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Zachary Endrulat (@ZacharyEndrulat): "This is Foss now http://techrights.org/2021/03/27/osi-completely-defunct/"|nitter.it
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