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01:17 schestowitz-pi; the full html comes from my script
01:17 schestowitz-pi; i'm going to try to identify what code eats the whitespaces and why
01:17 schestowitz-pi; my guess is that it is something in perl
01:17 schestowitz-pi; where it analyses urls
01:17 schestowitz-pi; going to first progress on news-reading till 3am
01:17 schestowitz-pi; so far i see mostly good news
01:17 schestowitz-pi; germany ratifying upca is noa a shock
01:17 schestowitz-pi; it's what comes next that will be interesting
01:17 schestowitz-pi; i see more layoffs in companies i strongly dislike
01:36 techrights[sec]; Which script? I can look.
01:38 schestowitz-pi; there is a chain of scripts running when I call finalise script from dialogue in menu.sh on
01:38 schestowitz-pi; my machine 'vonick'
01:38 schestowitz-pi; i forgot the order in which it runs, but toc is part of it, and iirc it also pulls the latest camelcase file
01:38 schestowitz-pi; from git before it runs the rest
01:38 schestowitz-pi; there is the thing that culls empty n
01:39 techrights[sec]; something there is eating the whitespace at the end of the line and adding <br /> which seems to be the problem
01:56 schestowitz-pi; there is the thing that culls empty nodes in the tree
01:56 schestowitz-pi; end of line is not the issue as that's to do with how the rss feeds are formatted
01:56 schestowitz-pi; the main issue is, when <b>some text</b> is bolded or <a href="">linked</a> the spaces
01:56 schestowitz-pi; before and after are removed
01:56 schestowitz-pi; I've not yet checked it
01:56 schestowitz-pi; as I try to gather enough material before the bulletin cutoff
01:56 schestowitz-pi; and fell behind yesterday as I did about 5 things in town
01:56 techrights[sec]; Is it the culling script? Which part of the chain is eating the spaces?
01:58 schestowitz-pi; checking....
01:58 schestowitz-pi; perl ~/Git/Links/links-interleave-social-control-media.pl \
01:58 schestowitz-pi; links-after.html > links-clean.html
01:58 schestowitz-pi; i think that _might_ be it
02:04 schestowitz-pi; wait, maybe it happens before that
02:04 schestowitz-pi; grep href links-after.html | grep -v h5
02:04 schestowitz-pi; grep href links-clean.html | grep -v h5
02:04 schestowitz-pi; both lack the space
02:04 schestowitz-pi; perl ./links-cull-empty.pl links-clean.html | \
02:04 schestowitz-pi; perl ./links-toc.pl > links-after.html
02:05 techrights[sec]; checking
02:07 schestowitz-pi; oh i see now with git show
02:07 schestowitz-pi; are you ok with me testing this in 30 mins
02:07 schestowitz-pi; for the next batch of links?
02:07 schestowitz-pi; then i can report the outcome
02:07 techrights[sec]; sure
02:09 schestowitz-pi; backed up previous version, put new one in place instead
02:09 schestowitz-pi; will report soon....
02:23 schestowitz-TR2; Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/16/latest-updates-stanford-president-under-investigation-for-research-misconduct/
02:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Latest updates: Stanford president under investigation for research misconduct
02:25 schestowitz-pi; [rant] academia is full of frauds
02:25 schestowitz-pi; i cannot tell if
02:25 schestowitz-pi; 1) the phenomenon is new
02:25 schestowitz-pi; 2) it is old
02:25 schestowitz-pi; 3) it is just becoming MORE VISIBLE in the modern age
02:25 schestowitz-pi; a fish rots from the head down
02:25 schestowitz-pi; it's the same in corporations
02:25 schestowitz-pi; propelling to the top a bunch of frauds with plenty to hide
02:25 schestowitz-pi; so they bully honest people, whom they try to keep below and out of decision-making
02:25 schestowitz-pi; frauds like to hangs out with like-minded people
02:25 schestowitz-pi; and they LOVE power
02:28 techrights[sec]; I suspect it has gotten much, much worse in recent decades. The poseurs
02:28 techrights[sec]; were generally culled and unable to disturb a core. Now the core is gone
02:28 techrights[sec]; and those that would have made a core, marginalized.
02:28 schestowitz-pi; happens in admin and "research;'
02:28 schestowitz-pi; like people who forge results to "get ahead"
02:28 schestowitz-pi; and peer review cannot always catch them
02:32 techrights[sec]; Admin is the main proble: empire builders, microsofters, and such
02:44 techrightssec; peer review has mostly stopped working, and that is part of the problem.
02:44 techrightssec; that is mostly caused by the state of academic publishing and the current
02:44 techrightssec; business models which have been encouraged to develop over the last half
02:44 techrightssec; century
02:44 techrightssec; Where the whitspaces preserved
02:44 techrightssec; ?
02:44 schestowitz-TR2; it seems to be fixed now!
02:46 techrights[sec];
02:46 techrights[sec]; Excellent
02:46 techrights[sec];
02:47 schestowitz-pi; i am still adapting, will improve over time
02:47 schestowitz-pi; but for now tma nd tr
02:47 schestowitz-pi; contain some extra formatting and links aside from the "main" link
02:47 schestowitz-pi; and that's a positive step forward
02:47 schestowitz-pi; sometimes these links are authoritative
02:47 schestowitz-pi; links original pdfs
02:51 schestowitz-pi; for example see last item in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Programming_Leftovers.shtml
02:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
02:51 schestowitz-pi; or this: http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/02/18/Debian_Leftovers.shtml
02:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Debian Leftovers
02:51 schestowitz-pi; in TM, the line length limits get eliminated, but not in TR
03:04 schestowitz-TR2; TikTok Focused View Promises Emotion Tracking to Advertisers https://www.cpomagazine.com/data-privacy/tiktok-focused-view-promises-emotion-tracking-to-advertisers/
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03:34 techrights[sec];
03:34 techrights[sec]; checkin
03:34 techrights[sec]; g
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04:15 schestowitz-TR2; Roblox Reports Nearly $1 Billion Net Loss in 2022 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/02/15/roblox-reports-nearly-1-billion-net-loss-in-2022/
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04:47 schestowitz-TR2; The problem is not the burning but the people who react to these https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/02/norway-dispatch-annual-police-threat-assessment-highlights-risk-of-extremism-in-the-wake-of-quran-burnings-elsewhere-in-scandinavia/
04:47 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.jurist.org | Norway dispatch: annual police threat assessment highlights risk of extremism in the wake of Quran burnings elsewhere in Scandinavia - JURIST - News
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13:28 schestowitz-pi; i wanted to share something while offline
13:28 schestowitz-pi; forgot, but it was not important anyway
13:28 schestowitz-pi; meanwhile, in irc there was some trolling
13:28 schestowitz-pi; not severe case of trolling
13:28 schestowitz-pi; but maybe I should be selective who to reply to
13:28 schestowitz-pi; i really would rather post links and such
13:28 schestowitz-pi; then all sorts of other possible uses of time
13:28 schestowitz-pi; *then
13:28 schestowitz-pi; *than
13:28 schestowitz-pi; still getting accustomed to a new arrangement of days
13:28 schestowitz-pi; and workflow
13:28 schestowitz-pi; going to use firefox in a moment
13:28 schestowitz-pi; discounts at the local stores for "fresh" foods are getting harder to find
13:28 schestowitz-pi; often empty-handed visits
13:28 schestowitz-pi; so wholesales will become preferable too, as long as they last...
13:40 techrights[sec]; ack
13:41 schestowitz-pi; just spoke to relative in yorkshire for an hour
13:41 schestowitz-pi; says many more people in streets, some in tents
13:41 schestowitz-pi; in centre of town
13:41 schestowitz-pi; and it was not like this before
13:41 schestowitz-pi; spoke about health and other issues
13:41 schestowitz-pi; reached conclusion that living in an island if better than bunker
13:41 schestowitz-pi; owing to isolation, distance
13:41 schestowitz-pi; but some islands are attracting too much attention now
13:41 schestowitz-pi; getting congested and "projects"
13:41 schestowitz-pi; after 2020 many homes outside towns, not apartment, rose in "value"
13:41 schestowitz-pi; living in overpriced shoeboxes is not so trendy anymore
13:41 schestowitz-pi; with frugality and longtime savings we can 'run on empty' for over a decade
13:41 schestowitz-pi; and assess the situatio
13:41 schestowitz-pi; n
13:57 schestowitz-pi; sorry to be talking about rather off-topic matters, back to more relevant powwow,
13:57 schestowitz-pi; i wonder how to 'streamline' our two scripts so as to get the html/body and the summary/overview
13:57 schestowitz-pi; in one fell swoop
13:58 schestowitz-pi; i am going to look at the code later to study overlaps
13:58 schestowitz-pi; i think it is a massive improvement to have in-line formatting for blockquote parts in TM and TR
13:58 schestowitz-pi; other syndicators lack that, through old-tm does have a syndication component that includes such
13:58 schestowitz-pi; bits
13:58 techrights[sec]; cat | tidy | de-duplicate.pl
14:01 schestowitz-pi; btw, engadgetbecame a spamfarm akin to cnet, similar tactics and overlap
14:01 schestowitz-pi; zdnet is barely active, looks like editors do 1-2 times a week rota now
14:01 schestowitz-pi; so they publish in bursts, then go silent
14:01 schestowitz-pi; same cms and company as cnet
14:01 schestowitz-pi; when you see full body html it's rather blatant, like URLs 4 lines long all over the place (referrer parts)
14:01 schestowitz-pi; it's seo and spamfarming
14:02 techrights[sec]; A lot of sites have diminished and/or turned to spammishness. Others have
14:02 techrights[sec]; just plain closed down.
14:02 schestowitz-pi; indeed
14:03 schestowitz-pi; the former category was handed over to 'cleaners' or monetisers
14:03 schestowitz-pi; milking what's left and selling the horse to a delicatessen
14:03 techrights[sec]; India seems to still have investments in media and journalism, but tech
14:03 techrights[sec]; coverage is very, very weak.
14:05 schestowitz-pi; be careful, a lot of their english-speaking media reposts the same texts in many domains
14:05 schestowitz-pi; and i suspect some of it is composed elsewhere and presented as "original"
14:05 schestowitz-pi; if you compare paragraphs you can see they are recycling
14:05 schestowitz-pi; but spamnil is miles worse, he's not even editorialising things
14:05 schestowitz-pi; he and monika just copy-paste corporate spam
14:05 schestowitz-pi; spwmnil is still violating youtube TOS, but fewer videos to click
14:06 techrights[sec]; It is difficult to find and follow quality sites. Many appear to be mostly
14:06 techrights[sec]; plagiarism.
14:06 techrights[sec]; TOS and CoC only apply to opponents of M$
14:07 schestowitz-pi; coc = "professionalism" = submissive to power (oligarchy
14:07 schestowitz-pi; that does not mean that coc violators are freedom fighters
14:07 schestowitz-pi; many are actual asshole, but risky to generalise
14:07 schestowitz-pi; that's how a coc gets sold
14:14 schestowitz-pi; a motto for TMis, no need to editorialise news if you can boost the original
14:14 schestowitz-pi; and curate what's important
14:14 schestowitz-pi; phoronix is considered "blogspam" in reddit
14:14 schestowitz-pi; because it can be biased for the originals
14:14 schestowitz-pi; and no ads
14:14 schestowitz-pi; but if you have nothing original to report, why not link to the developer's platform?
14:14 schestowitz-pi; either way, just curation and management of the signal can go a long way
14:14 schestowitz-pi; linuxtoday i cannot bear because you must open a ling with js and ads just to open the
14:14 schestowitz-pi; original story
14:14 schestowitz-pi; and they post very olkd and unimportant stuff, maybe 4 items per day
14:14 schestowitz-pi; while missing the actually emergent/breaking/important news
14:14 schestowitz-pi; linuxtoday invested way too much time building audience in tw
14:19 techrights[sec]; Twitter is and always was a massive waste of time and e
14:21 schestowitz-pi; nobody -- least me -- thought it would go down THIS fast
14:21 schestowitz-pi; india offices shuttered
14:21 schestowitz-pi; funnelled traffic to elonmusk
14:21 schestowitz-pi; now worth $44,000,000,000
14:21 schestowitz-pi; not even $44,000,000
14:21 schestowitz-pi; *lest
14:21 schestowitz-pi; *not
14:21 schestowitz-pi; sorry, still typoing
14:21 schestowitz-pi; need to change terminal font
14:24 schestowitz-pi; bringing the screen closer too
14:24 schestowitz-pi; it's the raspi400
14:24 schestowitz-pi; very weird day today, lots of mumble and experimentation with things
14:24 schestowitz-pi; lots of coffee, too
14:32 schestowitz-pi; i use the percolator
14:32 schestowitz-pi; got some blends at the wholesale market
14:32 schestowitz-pi; 2 litres of coffee help suppress appetite
14:32 schestowitz-pi; but only about once a week
14:32 schestowitz-pi; the rest is tea or protein shakes
14:32 schestowitz-pi; we keep finding more protein shakes than we can finish
14:32 schestowitz-pi; helps with weight lo
14:35 schestowitz-pi; if properly dressed, i can job in the streets on my way to errands
14:35 schestowitz-pi; as done yesterday and today
14:35 schestowitz-pi; cardio
14:35 schestowitz-pi; the consensus today was, many people known to people get sick
14:35 schestowitz-pi; some permanently
14:35 schestowitz-pi; i got invited to a party but turned it down
14:35 schestowitz-pi; too many people
14:35 schestowitz-pi; /s/job/jog/
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14:51 schestowitz-pi; of note: quality of stories in hackaday fell shrply about a year ago when they
14:51 schestowitz-pi; changed the editor
14:51 schestowitz-pi; but it is still better than some of the equivalent sites, of which
14:52 schestowitz-pi; of which there are very
14:53 schestowitz-pi; few
14:53 techrights[sec]; I stopped reading Hackaday for the most part
14:53 techrights[sec]; It still has occasional gems though.
15:16 schestowitz-TR2; Working from home attracts people from big cities to the suburbs https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/lifestyle/22976-working-from-home-attracts-people-from-big-cities-to-the-suburbs.html
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15:23 schestowitz-pi; today I spoke about living in an island
15:23 schestowitz-pi; but the issue that came up was
15:23 schestowitz-pi; too many tourists
15:23 schestowitz-pi; and industrialisationm
15:23 schestowitz-pi; so what you root for today can change profoundly over time
15:23 schestowitz-pi; serene places won't stay that way if they get "discovered"
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22:49 schestowitz-TR2; Internal review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents Alzheimers research, colleagues allege https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/17/internal-review-found-falsified-data-in-stanford-presidents-alzheimers-research-colleagues-allege/
22:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-stanforddaily.com | Review found falsified data in Stanford Presidents research, colleagues allege
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23:35 schestowitz-pi; it would take very strong evidence to prove there were special intents and forces trying
23:35 schestowitz-pi; to drive mycroft out of the market for privacy reasons
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