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beginning of new day, January 18

00:45 schestowitz-TR; nobody knows

00:45 schestowitz-TR; except liars who claim to k

00:45 schestowitz-TR; now

00:45 schestowitz-TR; *know

00:45 schestowitz-TR; or claim to control the future

00:45 schestowitz-TR; no single person has THAT much power

00:45 schestowitz-TR; not even Putin

00:46 schestowitz-TR; having said that

00:46 schestowitz-TR; 1) keep healthy

00:46 schestowitz-TR; 2) keep good knowledge

00:46 schestowitz-TR; with (1) you are safe for the top of the pyramid of "needs" (Maslow)

00:47 schestowitz-TR; (2) is good if you want gainful employment in the future

00:47 schestowitz-TR; some people let (1) and (2) stagnate


1 AM, January 18

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3 AM, January 18

03:01 techrigthssec; that was probably when I ran an update of the packages but it said nothing about\

03:01 techrigthssec; removing anything, just updating afiak

03:01 techrigthssec; by the way there were / are a lot of hotlinks in the tm gallery

03:01 schestowitz-TR; in the original (old) or static )new)?

03:01 schestowitz-TR; i didn't even know gulag analytics was in there

03:07 schestowitz-TR; OTA

03:07 schestowitz-TR; should I do a video about MSFT layoffs? or no need? (mind you, it's in "the news" already; we 'don't matter' now)

03:07 schestowitz-TR; 8k+ requests over gemini https proxy yesterday

03:07 schestowitz-TR; msft layoffs and mjg

03:07 schestowitz-TR; OTA

03:07 schestowitz-TR; biab

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4 AM, January 18

04:31 techrigthssec; The screen shots are probably now complete in the tm-new gallery

04:31 techrigthssec; There are still some hotlinks in there somewhere, but I have not hunted them

04:31 techrigthssec; down. There are however some accidental captures of the tm main page and

04:31 techrigthssec; they can be removed and the links to them replaced with links to tm-new, but

04:31 techrigthssec; that will take a bit of thought first.

04:31 techrigthssec; Maybe the orphaned file names could be culled too.

04:31 techrigthssec; Should any javascript at all be allowed to remain?

04:31 schestowitz-TR; i think js is only in the dropdown box for screenshot res

04:35 techrigthssec; I haven't tested if it evem works in the archived version. I presume that it

04:35 techrigthssec; ought to though.

04:35 techrigthssec; Nope. It seems not to. The link below it does work, however.

04:44 schestowitz-TR; draft

04:48 techrigthssec; checking

04:50 techrigthssec; The bold face text near the bottom is broken

04:50 techrigthssec; s/If I could do this/If I can do this/

04:50 techrigthssec; Remember that m$ makes journalists toe the line to retain their "access" to

04:50 techrigthssec; official channels of information. Link to the relevant PXE from Comes v M$

04:50 techrigthssec; The phrase "XBox sales lose the company money!" is what should be highlighted

04:50 techrigthssec; in bold, not the rest

04:50 techrigthssec; A few words about how/why Azure is failing could be useful.

04:55 schestowitz-TR; editing, thanks

04:55 schestowitz-TR; i assume current msfters might watch the video

04:55 techrigthssec; Xbox has not ever really been much about being a games console but has been

04:55 techrigthssec; about making a test bed for DRM and other lock-in using commodity hardware.

04:55 schestowitz-TR; and try to convince them to leave

04:55 schestowitz-TR; can i quote that?

04:56 techrigthssec; loose paraphrasing is preferable if possibe

04:59 psydruid; even saying something like not buying any games from companies that get acquired by Microsoft is seen as hostile instead of a decision any person should be able to make for themselves


5 AM, January 18

05:16 techrigthssec; Well put!

05:17 schestowitz-TR; just added a url for letter to hobbyists at the end

05:17 schestowitz-TR; to show how far back this goes

05:17 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: it is a hate crime

05:17 schestowitz-TR; corporations are people, my friend. MinceR likes that quote

05:20 techrigthssec; Excellent addition

05:22 schestowitz-TR; i could add a reference to the pharma/vaccine business, but it would alienate and distract from the topic at hand

05:22 schestowitz-TR; scicnece is now "political" and "divisive"

05:22 schestowitz-TR; my nhs "record" can "prove" I support trump and lex jones and... (straw man)

05:22 schestowitz-TR; there is that twitter leak about pharma companies asking twitter to censor activists for generic vaccines

05:22 schestowitz-TR; i.e. no patents

05:22 schestowitz-TR; yes, those "terrorists" who think public-funded stuff should be... gasp... public

05:43 techrigthssec; Pharma would be a distraction


7 AM, January 18

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8 AM, January 18

08:00 schestowitz-TR; whoa

08:00 schestowitz-TR; pinkish sky this morning

08:00 schestowitz-TR; and snow

08:00 schestowitz-TR; very odd hue

08:17 schestowitz-TR; --

08:20 schestowitz-TR; tesla makes budget cars

08:20 schestowitz-TR; "budget" AYE QUE

08:20 schestowitz-TR; buy this green car

08:20 schestowitz-TR; that runs on power made elsewhere

08:20 schestowitz-TR; don't pay attention to Tesla whistleblowers, they are just terrorists sceming a mass shooting

08:20 schestowitz-TR; *scheming

08:20 schestowitz-TR; Tesla cultists make me more sick than Apple cultists

08:20 schestowitz-TR; but both engage in financially self-harming behaviour, so I'm sort of fine with that

08:38 techrigthssec; ack

08:41 schestowitz-TR; they would be better off SupportingTheEconomy(TM) by spending local

08:41 schestowitz-TR; not feeding CultOfApple and MuskCult/OPccult

08:41 schestowitz-TR; back in a biot

08:41 schestowitz-TR; worming exercise

08:41 schestowitz-TR; we started feeding the birds near us lately, they hang in the trees and are visible from binuculars

08:41 schestowitz-TR; they are visible from where we exercise, they come to the garden when the cats are not around, and once

08:41 schestowitz-TR; they locate one feed the rest follow

08:41 schestowitz-TR; bbl


10 AM, January 18

10:28 schestowitz-TR; strategically iw would help to know WHAT and WHERE microsoft does cuts

10:28 schestowitz-TR; a bit too early to check atm

10:28 schestowitz-TR; because of gossips HR 1-to-1 meetings today

10:28 schestowitz-TR; on my 'TODO'

10:28 schestowitz-TR; I hope they cut off lots of "OS" stuff

10:28 schestowitz-TR; that would help gnu/linux grow

10:45 techrigthssec; Maybe they are cutting "coders" because, given the quality, they can be replaced

10:45 techrigthssec; with ChatGPT which does a better job they they generally do. ;)

10:45 techrigthssec; More seriously cutting the OS stuff would make some sense but what they do

10:45 techrigthssec; seldom makes sense. I guess it is about where they see the strongest chances

10:45 techrigthssec; for maintaining a monopoly or if they will transition further to "financialization" like Apple has.

10:45 schestowitz-TR; catching up

10:46 schestowitz-TR; draft

10:46 schestowitz-TR; (reading your message)

10:46 schestowitz-TR; I am not saying OS staff/stuff gets cut

10:46 schestowitz-TR; but would love to know if t hey do

10:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe we'll never find out easily

10:46 schestowitz-TR; drawing blood froma rock and from liars

10:52 techrigthssec; It would be difficult to find out in advance and to a certain extent even after

10:52 techrigthssec; the fact, for the reasons you mention.

10:54 schestowitz-TR; we enjoy the news nonetheless

10:54 schestowitz-TR; the collectiev achievement of millions of gnu/linux advocates

10:54 schestowitz-TR; ebuzz, DT, groklaw etc.

10:54 schestowitz-TR; they can only try to undermine, infiltrate etc.

10:54 schestowitz-TR; like paying OSI to call plagiarism "HEY HI"

10:54 schestowitz-TR; OSI is finished

10:55 schestowitz-TR; Android (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/

http://techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/18/android-linux-in-africa/

10:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Android (Linux) Has Kicked Windows to the Curb in African Nations | Techrights

10:56 schestowitz-TR; gonna check on the bird now to relax

10:56 schestowitz-TR; and round of coffee

10:56 schestowitz-TR; only slept 4 hours

10:56 schestowitz-TR; rianne woke me up to tell me abotu the perl issue


11 AM, January 18

11:02 psydruid; they find it hard enough to hire people who are familiar with their technologies, because a whole generation of developers has grown up with free software

11:03 schestowitz-TR; the thing is, they bought github

11:03 schestowitz-TR; we need to present good reasons NOT to use it

11:03 schestowitz-TR; so their takeover turns out to be WORTHLESS

11:03 schestowitz-TR; and still make losses

11:03 schestowitz-TR; the copilot PLAGIARISM is a good reason to avoid it

11:03 schestowitz-TR; and even SFC, which took Microsoft money, decided to tell people to boycott github

11:03 schestowitz-TR; so that's a plus

11:04 techrigthssec; One can hope that the new generation represents a return to Free Software.

11:09 schestowitz-TR; back with coffee

11:09 schestowitz-TR; hundreds of small birds outside in the snow and trees

11:09 techrigthssec; Schools tend to search for such students though so that they can be weeded out

11:09 techrigthssec; and those that progress down the M$ pipeline generally lack not just skills but

11:09 techrigthssec; aptitudes necessary for gaining ICT skills.

11:32 techrigthssec; Many good reaons are listed in the lawsuit against m$ over its using to strip

11:32 techrigthssec; both licensing and attribution from the code that chumps have left in GitHub

11:33 schestowitz-TR; [rant] just spent 20 minutes digging through over a dozen "news" reports on the layoffs

11:33 schestowitz-TR; lots wrong with them and barely clues about which divisions affected

11:34 schestowitz-TR; IOW, not journalism, just parroting, parroting, parroting

11:44 techrigthssec; PR dressed up as journalism

11:45 schestowitz-TR; AIM has not done attack pieces on Linux

11:45 schestowitz-TR; after we called them out on it

11:45 schestowitz-TR; it featured in LinuxToday etc.

11:45 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure they noticed

11:47 techrigthssec; Or "churnalism" dressed up as news

11:47 techrigthssec; Churn for the sake of keeping m$ in the news.

11:47 techrigthssec; but without critique, analysis, or investigation

11:47 techrigthssec; let alone actual criticism

11:47 techrigthssec; Yes but they are still M$ "partners" so their goal is to promote M$ above all

11:47 techrigthssec; else and their backing off is only a tactical move and most likely just

11:47 techrigthssec; temporary at best

11:48 schestowitz-TR; if the financial "perkjs" steop

11:48 schestowitz-TR; lewiis calls them bribes

11:48 schestowitz-TR; then they will move to other "topics"

11:48 schestowitz-TR; or focus on other companies, potential "partners"

11:48 schestowitz-TR; that would at least be a step in the "right" direction

11:48 schestowitz-TR; so we need to keep at it

11:48 schestowitz-TR; it does work

11:50 techrigthssec; yes

11:51 schestowitz-TR; tryint to think of more angles to cover

11:51 schestowitz-TR; to be a thorn on their side at a time they hurt a lot

11:51 schestowitz-TR; like market share erosion

11:51 schestowitz-TR; I could not find out which divisions are affected

11:51 schestowitz-TR; except when reading anon gossip sites

11:51 schestowitz-TR; but it should be feasible for good journalists to extract

11:51 schestowitz-TR; info from insiders

11:51 schestowitz-TR; they JUST DO NOT TRY!!!

11:51 techrigthssec; Anything in the SEC filings or are they still too sanitized to provide

11:51 techrigthssec; an assessment of any kind?

11:53 schestowitz-TR; for SEC they change the buckers

11:53 schestowitz-TR; product/brand names

11:53 schestowitz-TR; and umbrellas

11:53 schestowitz-TR; e.g. "entertainment"

11:53 schestowitz-TR; very value

11:53 schestowitz-TR; and they can add/remove things from that reporting "silo"

11:53 schestowitz-TR; so SEC is designed badly in case informing shareholders was the intent

11:54 schestowitz-TR; they have inside/r info

11:54 schestowitz-TR; we need insiders

11:54 schestowitz-TR; I have some contacts

11:54 schestowitz-TR; and this time I was spot on, even the date

11:54 schestowitz-TR; 5000+6000=11,0000

11:54 schestowitz-TR; those WORKERS only know MICROSOFTISM

11:54 schestowitz-TR; so finding another job is VERY HARD

11:54 schestowitz-TR; not just because of the economic "climate"

11:54 schestowitz-TR; I hope they change occupation

11:54 schestowitz-TR; do something that does not harm society

11:56 schestowitz-TR; according to gemini stats page, there is another topic/theme now competing with the layoffs :) ^_^


noon, January 18

12:01 schestowitz-TR; adding an over-encompassing wiki page belatedly?

12:01 schestowitz-TR; it would lend "credibility" (notability)

12:02 techrigthssec; Not sure

12:06 techrigthssec; gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/12/jan-17-layoffs-rumour/ is missing the\

12:06 techrigthssec; assessment that the downsizing can be about one third of the microserfs

12:06 techrigthssec; currently on the payroll

12:08 schestowitz-TR; i saw no such numbers

12:08 schestowitz-TR; msft says 11k out (not "officially" yet)

12:08 schestowitz-TR; same as FB

12:08 schestowitz-TR; 11k, one of 3 waves apparently

12:08 schestowitz-TR; 10%, 10%, 10% (some believe)

12:08 schestowitz-TR; but that's FB, not MSFT

12:09 schestowitz-TR; it would be nice to see much deeper cuts

12:09 schestowitz-TR; but nobody is investigating

12:09 schestowitz-TR; and what they "reported" oin Sky was easy

12:09 schestowitz-TR; the only advantage they have is, it is "official" news site

12:09 schestowitz-TR; and they asked MSFT

12:09 schestowitz-TR; MSFT said, "no comment"

12:10 techrigthssec; For what it's worth, you could ask m$ too so that you can point out, too,

12:10 techrigthssec; that they responded with "no comment" or failed to respond at all ...

12:10 schestowitz-TR; reminds me of the time around 2007 when we emailed microsoft's legal dept.

12:10 schestowitz-TR; asking for a patent licence for mono

12:10 schestowitz-TR; or similar

12:10 schestowitz-TR; and they did reply

12:14 schestowitz-TR; i wanted to tell you earlier, but reckoned you were already busy with links,

12:14 schestowitz-TR; that it would help to have another pair of eyes on:

12:14 schestowitz-TR; - how many laid off

12:14 schestowitz-TR; - divisions

12:14 schestowitz-TR; - another round this coming july?

12:14 schestowitz-TR; as an aside, in tuxmachines I enter many summaries into pages but they vanish as pages age

12:14 schestowitz-TR; one way to "do them justice" would be deriving from the DB a weekly/monthly page

12:14 schestowitz-TR; that contains the "description" for each page

12:14 schestowitz-TR; so that SEs can pick that up too

12:14 schestowitz-TR; and navigation also becomes simpler

12:14 schestowitz-TR; we have date, not categories

12:14 schestowitz-TR; and that it fine, spare us the extra work needd in drupal ("taxonomy")

12:15 techrigthssec; The few articles on th etopic have been weak and not included details like that

12:15 techrigthssec; but the hint is that there are likely more rounds of layoffs to come.

12:15 techrigthssec; It would be possible to extract title and description from the db and make

12:15 techrigthssec; a fresh page. Can you make a mockup?

12:15 techrigthssec; (in plain html)

12:17 schestowitz-TR; I am going to make a mock-up later today

12:17 schestowitz-TR; for date, afaik there are too fields. not secondary/primary keys: date added, date last modified

12:17 schestowitz-TR; the code would be super-similar to the code that creates the main gemini page and front page

12:17 schestowitz-TR; except the query SELECT part

12:17 schestowitz-TR; time range specified

12:18 techrigthssec; Title + Description for last n days sorted descending by date?

12:21 schestowitz-TR; yes, those two can suffice in long lists, with limits that contrain page size, e.g. 2023 week 1

12:21 schestowitz-TR; or 1/1/2023 archive

12:21 schestowitz-TR; January 2023 would be like 1500 links

12:21 schestowitz-TR; search engines penalise pages with over 200 (Google) links, IIRC

12:22 schestowitz-TR; have not checked for over a decade

12:22 schestowitz-TR; but they won't crawl these deep

12:22 schestowitz-TR; can also be split by author, e.g. WHERE author=joebloggs

12:22 techrigthssec; I'm thinking only one page which would be updated either daily or once

12:22 techrigthssec; per edit, which ever is a shorter interval. It is not good to have too many

12:22 techrigthssec; redundant pages cluttering things.

12:22 techrigthssec; Yes, it can be split by auther.

12:22 techrigthssec; ^authhor

12:22 techrigthssec; ^author

12:22 techrigthssec; grouping is not a problem

12:25 schestowitz-TR; such a page can be generated at the end of each month manually or by cron

12:25 schestowitz-TR; or, if daily, by midnight cronjob

12:25 schestowitz-TR; for gemini and https it only takes a few seconds to run and spew out the output of the query

12:25 schestowitz-TR; linking to the resultant pages can be done manually, e.g. as par tof end-of-month tasks

12:25 schestowitz-TR; but 1500 links in a page is too much, I think

12:25 schestowitz-TR; for usenet I used to make calendar-like links that then link to subpages, made with MonARCH (ruby)

12:25 schestowitz-TR; *mhonarc (iirc)


1 PM, January 18

13:51 schestowitz-TR; "Alas, 2023 is not likely to be any different and will probably be even more chaotic than last year" https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/18/the-uk-a-return-to-the-past-masquerading-as-the-future/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/01/18/the-uk-a-return-to-the-past-masquerading-as-the-future/

13:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The UK: a Return to the Past Masquerading as the Future. - CounterPunch.org


3 PM, January 18

15:31 schestowitz-TR; Twitter censorship for patent cartels https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-pushed-twitter-to-hide-vaccine-equity-tweets-new-report-reveals/ | Source: TruthOut

↺ https://truthout.org/articles/big-pharma-pushed-twitter-to-hide-vaccine-equity-tweets-new-report-reveals/

15:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-truthout.org | Big Pharma Pushed Twitter to Hide Vaccine Equity Tweets, New Report Reveals - Truthout


4 PM, January 18

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5 PM, January 18

17:22 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.pussthecat.org/your_dads_bully/status/1615758254474133521#m

↺ https://nitter.pussthecat.org/your_dads_bully/status/1615758254474133521#m

17:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Cement Mixer Stan (@your_dads_bully): "Techrights . Org... Sounds legit Bill gates doesn't have anything to do with Microsoft and hasn't for years" | Nitter | PussTheCat.org


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11 PM, January 18

23:48 techrigthssec; still polishing the gallery archive, redoing some processes on a RAM disk

23:48 techrigthssec; next iteration, for speed


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