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beginning of new day, December 17

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2 AM, December 17

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3 AM, December 17

03:04 schestowitz-TR; still very low temps here

03:04 schestowitz-TR; going to OTA in a moment


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07:57 techrightssec2; s/not use/nor use/

07:57 techrightssec2; Happy Birthday today

07:57 schestowitz-TR; thanks!, catching up


8 AM, December 17

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9 AM, December 17

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09:58 schestowitz-TR; i did not watch it all, but trust your judgement and reposted that

09:58 schestowitz-TR; still falling behind because of all the "happy bday" calls, which are mostly repetitive

09:58 schestowitz-TR; probably the thing I like the least tbh


10 AM, December 17

10:04 techrightssec2; The first third was about WeaSeL specifically, the rest was two other segments

10:04 techrightssec2; putting it into proper context and warning about what Restricted Boot, TPM 2,

10:04 techrightssec2; and M$ Pluton are doing against general-purpose computing, specifically how

10:04 techrightssec2; it bans BSD and Linux from the hardware.

10:04 techrightssec2; .

10:05 schestowitz-TR; yes, this is the general direction

10:05 schestowitz-TR; "we're not preventing competition; we SUPPORT it!"

10:05 schestowitz-TR; and canonical sold out in 2016, just like LF

10:10 mjg59_; Pluton doesn't block any OS from the hardware

10:11 techrightssec2; That direction was laid out back 20+ years ago when M$ tried to buy some BIOS

10:11 techrightssec2; company and at the same time added DRM to WMP after the public rejected it from

10:11 techrightssec2; MSO or something more serious. At the time, people let their kids install

10:11 techrightssec2; whatever the fuck they got a hold of regardless of the damage it would do

10:11 techrightssec2; -- on actual work computers. People rejected the DRM so M$ operated through

10:11 techrightssec2; their kids and non-essiential software, with the victims not realizing or not

10:11 techrightssec2; caring that the changes affected the whole system. The BIOS company was either

10:11 schestowitz-TR; draft

10:11 techrightssec2; Pheonix or AMI. They stopped pursuing the BIOS as it could not lock out Linux

10:11 techrightssec2; and other kernels until it was replaced by UEFI.

10:11 techrightssec2; Canonical was infiltrated but the UEFI team had something very wrong with it

10:11 techrightssec2; from the start. The premise was wrong from the beginning and thus only fools

10:11 techrightssec2; or traitors, or a mixture of both, signed on.

10:12 schestowitz-TR; going to be a busy day today

10:12 schestowitz-TR; started by lots of boring stuff

10:12 schestowitz-TR; I'll try to get ahead with rss feeds

10:21 psydruid; if you don't want M$ Pluton in your hardware, you're an unreasonable puppy kicker

10:27 psydruid; unfortunately for M$ the company will play an increasingly smaller role in the world of computing in general and hardware in particular

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10:42 schestowitz-TR; mg works for microsoft

10:44 techrightssec2; ack


11 AM, December 17

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11:04 techrightssec2; M$ is spinning and will continue to spin Pluton as either necessary or harmless

11:04 techrightssec2; and will do a lot to distract from how dangerous it is to self-determination

11:04 techrightssec2; and general-purpose computing.

11:04 techrightssec2; DOJ should be considering it an antitrust regression but won't due to political

11:04 techrightssec2; and resource constraints

11:40 schestowitz-TR; rianne found a greeting she wrote to me in 2013 but only handed over last night

11:40 schestowitz-TR; so that was quite special

11:40 schestowitz-TR; most bday greetings are dull, shallow, repetitve, corny and basically without any value/worth

11:40 schestowitz-TR; and that gets worse over the years

11:40 schestowitz-TR; like the age of emoji

11:40 schestowitz-TR; where even words can barely be used

11:41 techrightssec2; :)

11:41 techrightssec2; and the interpretations of the meanings of 'emoji' change from month to month

11:42 schestowitz-TR; some "apps" apparently have "stickers"

11:42 schestowitz-TR; and I think those are proprietary

11:42 schestowitz-TR; we don't use mobile p;hones or "apps"

11:42 schestowitz-TR; but I saw exchanges of greetings that boil down to pressing a button or choosing something

11:42 schestowitz-TR; from a selector

11:42 schestowitz-TR; that's not a greeting

11:42 schestowitz-TR; that's utter bullshit

11:43 schestowitz-TR; it's like writing someone a cheque as a "gift"

11:43 schestowitz-TR; or worse

11:43 schestowitz-TR; making a bank transfer

11:43 schestowitz-TR; although that takes more effort then sending emoji

11:44 schestowitz-TR; haha, bank transfer with transaction note that is an emoji

11:44 schestowitz-TR; party like it's 2025

11:59 techrightssec2; ack


noon, December 17

12:07 schestowitz-TR; i think that owing to our very very old wsl articles being read lately there will be more people out there

12:07 schestowitz-TR; who unlike concern trolls and shills will point out what the "grand plan" is

12:07 schestowitz-TR; but tbh, not much remains to be said now

12:07 schestowitz-TR; microsoft rebrands it and re-annnounces it to googlebomb "linus"

12:07 schestowitz-TR; with WINDOWS

12:09 schestowitz-TR; i amk still trying to figure out where to shave off time and how

12:09 schestowitz-TR; some of that might require writing custom-made programs

12:09 schestowitz-TR; e.g. duplicate detection

12:09 schestowitz-TR; quiterss is very gui-centri (qt)

12:09 schestowitz-TR; so writing extensions to it is not an option

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12:12 schestowitz-TR; one time-consuming task can be figuring out which links you already check throughout the week

12:12 schestowitz-TR; atm I check against a complete db of the links

12:15 techrightssec2; One way might be to have a script which loads and processes an OPML file and

12:15 techrightssec2; then creates a web page using the summary/details elements and let the browser

12:15 techrightssec2; track which URLs have been visited?

12:15 techrightssec2; The script could have duplicate detection easily.

12:15 techrightssec2; The browser does that the only problem is that there seems to be no way to

12:15 techrightssec2; mark a URL unread once it has been read.

12:15 schestowitz-TR; i quite like how, more so lately, rss is in headlines

12:15 schestowitz-TR; esp. on blogs, not msm

12:15 schestowitz-TR; how to make social control media based on rss

12:15 schestowitz-TR; how to manage it

12:15 schestowitz-TR; why use rss

12:15 schestowitz-TR; that's a refreshing thing

12:15 schestowitz-TR; social control media is inhernely an attack on rss

12:15 schestowitz-TR; they promise the do the same

12:15 schestowitz-TR; but the masters are the miam

12:15 schestowitz-TR; messing about with what you cannot and won't see

12:16 techrightssec2; Yes and more sites are clearly labeling the Atom or RSS feeds which they have.

12:16 techrightssec2; Many of those that do not have the feeds can add them very easily through

12:16 techrightssec2; their CMS.

12:19 schestowitz-TR; it's a shame that bakersoft, a gulag subsidiary, won't restore

12:19 schestowitz-TR; 1) hot bookmarks or live bookmarks

12:19 schestowitz-TR; 2) auto highlightingg, once a page is visited, where the RRS feed is

12:19 schestowitz-TR; 3) proper parsing of xml/atom/rss objects

12:19 schestowitz-TR; they fucked up all 3 intentionally

12:19 schestowitz-TR; gulag reader ran at a oss to kill the rivals, like feedlounger

12:19 schestowitz-TR; than it shut down

12:19 schestowitz-TR; self-destructed

12:19 schestowitz-TR; same for feedburder

12:19 schestowitz-TR; the WARNING is in thje NAMER ;)

12:19 schestowitz-TR; BURNER!!

12:22 schestowitz-TR; (sorry for typos)

12:22 schestowitz-TR; btw, gulagtube is not enterring the territory of morality police more and more

12:22 schestowitz-TR; vaccine science... banned

12:22 schestowitz-TR; sexy stuff.... banned

12:22 schestowitz-TR; linux... demonetised or suspended... kodi is PIRACY!!!

12:22 schestowitz-TR; they are doing a musk, gravitating towards msm

12:22 schestowitz-TR; sexy is OK, if it is mainstream

12:22 schestowitz-TR; like black women in thongs "shakin' their booty" on some bouncing vehicle

12:22 schestowitz-TR; morality police, soon qataer and mbs might offer to 'cushion' the losses in gulagtube*

12:22 schestowitz-TR; ___

12:22 schestowitz-TR; * conditions apply

12:23 techrightssec2; If one were suspicious, that kind of method worked well to harm RSS/Atom usage.

12:23 techrightssec2; by centralizing the service so that the alternatives die off or are abandoned

12:23 techrightssec2; and then once the competition is gone pull the plug. GM and Firestone did

12:23 techrightssec2; that to the streetcars in the US a long while back.

12:23 techrightssec2; ack

12:24 schestowitz-TR; we cannot prove that the war on rss was orchetrated like this

12:24 schestowitz-TR; rather, more plausible, they had another vision

12:24 schestowitz-TR; and promoted this

12:24 schestowitz-TR; like that POS "pocket" from mozilla

12:24 schestowitz-TR; telling you what to read and tracking firefox users

12:24 schestowitz-TR; see their very latest blog posts

12:24 schestowitz-TR; they don't even hide the spying

12:24 schestowitz-TR; they boast about it

12:24 schestowitz-TR; f* mozill

12:24 schestowitz-TR; move to librewolf

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12:42 techrightssec2; Either would be a possibile motive but there is insufficient data to prefer

12:42 techrightssec2; one explanation over the other at this point. Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malic

12:42 techrightssec2; e. :/

12:42 techrightssec2; Which institution granted m$ the sw patent on ANS-Coding used in JPEG XL ?

12:42 techrightssec2; Was it USPTO or EPO ?

12:44 schestowitz-TR; wasn't and the controversial thing duda (polish prof) complained about?

12:44 schestowitz-TR; you might want to lookm into it

12:44 schestowitz-TR; TR wote about it sveeral times

12:44 schestowitz-TR; we even spoke to duda many times

12:44 techrightssec2; Yes his approach was to complain to Google to get them to back off but then

12:44 techrightssec2; m$ just went and submitted a copy of the application somewhere and ignored

12:44 techrightssec2; him.

12:44 techrightssec2; Which institution granted m$ the sw patent on ANS-Coding used in JPEG XL ?

12:44 techrightssec2; Can Duda recall which institution, EPO or USPTO, it was which granted the patent?

12:45 schestowitz-TR; uspto iirc

12:46 schestowitz-TR; look up 'dude theregister 2020' (ish)

12:46 schestowitz-TR; *duda

12:46 schestowitz-TR; maybe arsetechnically pedo also covered that around the same year (from memory)

12:48 techrightssec2; Features Of Range Asymmetric Number System Encoding And Decoding

12:48 techrightssec2; PATENT NUMBER: 11234023; DOCUMENT ID: US 11234023 B2; DATE PUBLISHED: 2022-01-25

12:48 techrightssec2; USPTO

12:48 techrightssec2; Not possible to link to the USPTO's database, their web "app" is a javascript

12:48 techrightssec2; abomination and not an actual useful site or web page.

12:48 techrightssec2; The front end is /only/ a "web app" and not possible to bookmark or link to.

12:48 schestowitz-TR; iirc, it is java at the back end

12:48 schestowitz-TR; unless they have changed that

12:48 schestowitz-TR; and they gave that away in the url structure, which is bad practice

12:49 techrightssec2; The web "app" even captures the mouse buttons, preventing their function.

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1 PM, December 17

13:02 techrightssec2; Anyway, looking at the old TR link lists, the topic was not linked to much

13:02 techrightssec2; so perhaps in light of recent maneuvers by Google and M$ it could be a

13:02 techrightssec2; topic to cover again?

13:02 techrightssec2; The patent number and such is "new" information.

13:05 techrightssec2; Duda developed ANS back in 2007 already.

13:05 techrightssec2; https://libreplanet.org/2022/speakers/

↺ https://libreplanet.org/2022/speakers/

13:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-libreplanet.org | LibrePlanet Speakers

13:06 schestowitz-TR; yes, i remember his talk

13:06 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2022/03/28/ans-talk-by-jarek-duda/

http://techrights.org/2022/03/28/ans-talk-by-jarek-duda/

13:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | LibrePlanet 2022 Talk on Software Patent Issues (by Jarek Duda) | Techrights

13:28 techrightssec2; Yes

13:28 techrightssec2; The LibrePlanet web site is a bit hard to navigate, with an excessive number

13:28 techrightssec2; of links and so on, but then TR is no example either.

13:28 techrightssec2; https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss

↺ https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss

13:28 techrightssec2; ues/

13:28 techrightssec2; At about 21:30 he starts to address the sw patents.

13:28 techrightssec2; At about 35:50 he talks about defending against those who copy-pasta public code

13:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 308 @ https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss )

↺ https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/ans-coding-replacing-huffman-and-ac-from-introduction-to-patent-iss

13:28 techrightssec2; and use that for a patent

13:37 techrightssec2; The interviewer doesnt understand patents and talks about implementations as

13:37 techrightssec2; if it were a matter of copyright instead

13:37 techrightssec2; That misunderstanding persists globally.

13:37 techrightssec2; ^ topic ?

13:45 techrightssec2; The sound quality is worse than dreadful however

13:46 schestowitz-TR; contents should matter more than quality of equipment

13:49 techrightssec2; Below a certain threshold, which in this case was crossed, the content is no

13:49 techrightssec2; longer accessible in practice

13:49 techrightssec2; The sound quality was so poor that most of the words were unintelligible.

13:51 techrightssec2; Perhaps some filtering with Audacity or similar might help but few are going

13:51 techrightssec2; to go through the trouble

13:51 techrightssec2; It is ironic that a talk about lossless compression should be rendered

13:51 techrightssec2; unusable by lossy compression.

13:51 techrightssec2; .


2 PM, December 17

14:00 schestowitz-TR; there ios an interesting discussion atm in irc (tr) re rss vs email vs fedi vs twitter

14:00 schestowitz-TR; but that sort of goes around in circles

14:00 schestowitz-TR; atm, the topology of the net is a joke

14:00 schestowitz-TR; you have "gadget holders" connecting to just one domain

14:00 schestowitz-TR; say, tiktok

14:00 schestowitz-TR; and that domain then governs all the others

14:00 schestowitz-TR; a device should be accessing thousands of domains each day

14:00 schestowitz-TR; and now rely on one being a sieve

14:01 techrightssec2; ack

14:01 techrightssec2; s/tiktok/bytedance/

14:01 techrightssec2; ack

14:01 schestowitz-TR; you called that chokepoint a very, veyr long time ago

14:01 schestowitz-TR; now that also applied to person-to-person comms

14:01 schestowitz-TR; not just broadcasting (news etc)

14:01 schestowitz-TR; "mega-aggragators"

14:03 schestowitz-TR; I think beign IN a planet

14:03 schestowitz-TR; is a risk

14:03 schestowitz-TR; not just FOLLOWING one

14:03 schestowitz-TR; because peoplke wrongl;y assume they already follow you

14:03 schestowitz-TR; until someone gets in the middle

14:03 schestowitz-TR; and severs the wire

14:03 techrightssec2; ack

14:27 schestowitz-TR; "If you can avoid COVID, avoid COVID. Its probably not worth doing whatever it was that got you infected." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/12/17/still-alive-after-the-month-of-hell-covid-and-shingles/

↺ https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/12/17/still-alive-after-the-month-of-hell-covid-and-shingles/

14:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-baronhk.wordpress.com | Still alive after the month of Hell. (COVID and Shingles) | BaronHK's Rants

14:32 techrightssec2; ack

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5 PM, December 17

17:34 schestowitz-TR; just book a migration to fibreoptics feb 1st

17:34 schestowitz-TR; this time they do it right

17:34 schestowitz-TR; underground

17:34 schestowitz-TR; not all over people's homes

17:34 schestowitz-TR; they dug it up and the lines are underground

17:34 schestowitz-TR; the connection will be 20 times faster up

17:34 schestowitz-TR; and 7.5 times faster down

17:34 techrightssec2; \

17:34 techrightssec2; Hopefully so.

17:34 schestowitz-TR; can be 15 times faster for extra charge, but I opted out

17:34 schestowitz-TR; not sure how reliable it'll be

17:34 schestowitz-TR; but I can be refunded within 2 or 4 weeks

17:38 schestowitz-TR; it'll be 6 pounds a monthless than what I pay now

17:38 schestowitz-TR; anyway, good way to start my 'sabattical' year

17:38 schestowitz-TR; *bbatrical

17:38 schestowitz-TR; draft

17:38 schestowitz-TR; after 26 years of non-stop employment almost

17:40 techrightssec2; I expect the reliability and connectivity will be more stable but the speed

17:40 techrightssec2; will be less noticed since so many web sites have devolved into crappy, slow

17:40 techrightssec2; web "apps" with several layers of up to dozens of objects mostly retrieved

17:40 techrightssec2; in serial.

17:40 techrightssec2; Yes. A sabbatical is a good way to look at it.

17:40 techrightssec2; With web "apps" no amount of bandwidth on your part will speed up the subjective

17:40 techrightssec2; experience. But there will be a lot of other smaller benefits.

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