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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 16, 2022

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11:35 schestowitz-TR; SarisGas and TheLiar did not worsen behavious of staff but did drive away some nicer people, so on average quiali

11:35 schestowitz-TR; ty decreased

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11:39 schestowitz-TR; the hypothesis that skilled people follow killed people is common sense

11:39 schestowitz-TR; doing (I guess surveys) work to prove that can help validate the assumptions

11:41 schestowitz-TR; LOL Bryan Loca doing "Lifetime Subscription"

11:43 techrights-sec; Yes, Bryan is getting weirder and weirder. It'd be ok if he produced some kind

11:43 techrights-sec; of useful content along the way, like he used to, but it's substance-free at

11:43 techrights-sec; this point.

11:49 techrights-sec; Oh, wait, there is something from yesterday: he rips zdnet ...

11:53 schestowitz-TR; if you mean the cartoon, he rips sjvn in The Register, not MSZDNet

11:53 schestowitz-TR; and Lunduke himself is culpable with the "Linux sucks" BS

11:53 schestowitz-TR; he uploaded another "Linux sucks" video to youtube this year

11:53 schestowitz-TR; re that zdnet "year of desktop" article, which was actually SJVN in The Register

11:53 schestowitz-TR; (maybe ZDNet turned down that article!)

11:53 schestowitz-TR; I did not read it, I filed it low down in "today's leftovers"

11:53 schestowitz-TR; so it's not unlisted but it won't get much traffic either

11:53 schestowitz-TR; this morning I saw some decent linux site linking to TM

11:53 schestowitz-TR; not sure since when...

11:53 schestowitz-TR; if we post decent picks, people will, in due courts, appreciate it


noon, October 16

12:01 schestowitz-TR; oh, I see the article you mean now... not the cartoon

12:01 schestowitz-TR; Yes, I wrote about this subject many times before

12:06 techrights-sec; He provides some good details.

12:06 techrights-sec; s/good/useful/

12:07 schestowitz-TR; vpn snakeoil is notorious for it

12:07 schestowitz-TR; but even linux laptop companies do this

12:07 schestowitz-TR; I've added this to TM

12:07 schestowitz-TR; along with a new example of it in Also:


2 PM, October 16

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3 PM, October 16

15:15 schestowitz-TR; COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/bigger-numbers-post-covid19/

15:15 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive COVID-19 Waves Leave People Dying in Much Bigger Numbers

15:16 schestowitz-TR; nobody wants to say "vaccines"

15:16 schestowitz-TR; nor do I think it's the culprit

15:16 schestowitz-TR; maybe peple who recovered from it

15:16 schestowitz-TR; afaik, aussie healthcare is not under attack like nhs

15:16 schestowitz-TR; so looking across countries one can have a guess at the cause/s

15:18 techrights-sec; https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1128692167/yankee-candle-review-amazon-covid-twitter-study-covid19-pandemic-biden

↺ https://www.npr.org/2022/10/16/1128692167/yankee-candle-review-amazon-covid-twitter-study-covid19-pandemic-biden

15:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.npr.org | What a viral study on Yankee candles can teach us about COVID data : NPR

15:18 techrights-sec; NHS is under all kinds of attack, among other methods it is getting defunded

15:18 techrights-sec; and then ridiculed in the press owned by opponenets of the NHS for being

15:18 techrights-sec; underfunded.

15:19 schestowitz-TR; does BillPR disclose that it is funded by COVID-19 profiteer?

15:19 schestowitz-TR; or is this like the phenomenon lunduke ranted about?

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15:31 techrights-sec; NPR tends to avoid mentioning their conflict of interests in regards to that

15:31 techrights-sec; particular funder. It certainly killed their technology and technology policy

15:31 techrights-sec; coverage completely dead.

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15:32 schestowitz-TR; unti l regimes bother to dtusy wth is going on AFTER the waves I'll stay parking

15:32 schestowitz-TR; john reached the same conclusion as me compltely independently

15:32 schestowitz-TR; based on the data

15:32 schestowitz-TR; and asked the same questions

15:32 schestowitz-TR; then a friend told me about him

15:32 schestowitz-TR; BillPR and BillBC replaced tech coverage with namecalling ("conspiracy theorist")

15:32 schestowitz-TR; namecalling is what one does when there's no argument to be made


4 PM, October 16

16:49 schestowitz-TR; australia's pop is not that large

16:49 schestowitz-TR; and I don't know their public site well

16:49 schestowitz-TR; I thought about downloading their data

16:49 schestowitz-TR; to study, for the most part, excess death by age brackets

16:49 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather focus on the data here

16:49 schestowitz-TR; as I know it better

16:49 schestowitz-TR; and know the language, units, conventions

16:49 schestowitz-TR; turns out gulagtube recommended that same video to rianne

16:49 schestowitz-TR; the algo feeds what she watches

16:49 schestowitz-TR; yet she insists she is in control

16:49 schestowitz-TR; because she chooses what to merely click on

16:49 schestowitz-TR; this means that, irrespective of censorship, gulag is in control of what channels succeed and which ones fai

16:49 schestowitz-TR; lor which topics perish

16:49 schestowitz-TR; either deranked and given no incentive to produce (e.g. "Linux")

16:49 schestowitz-TR; this is a dangerous level of control

16:49 schestowitz-TR; when we had public TV it

16:49 schestowitz-TR; 1) was not intentional

16:49 schestowitz-TR; 2) was not a single company

16:49 techrights-sec; :/

16:49 techrights-sec; Most peope, even intelligent, well-educated ones, don't understand algorithmic

16:49 techrights-sec; manipulation. Pick a card, any card -- from this tiny subset ...

16:49 techrights-sec; Twitter and the other social control media examples do that with whole topics

16:49 techrights-sec; of discussion, not just "hashtags".

16:51 schestowitz-TR; I protested a lot abotu 5 years ago when twitter was "becoming facebook"

16:51 schestowitz-TR; and I explained why

16:51 schestowitz-TR; I managed to filter that out or mitigate in a number of ways

16:51 schestowitz-TR; but other people don't use it the same way

16:51 schestowitz-TR; I can provide specifics if you are interested


5 PM, October 16

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17:04 techrights-sec; It still comes down to people being shown a selected subset of material,

17:04 techrights-sec; that in and of itself skews the situation.

17:04 schestowitz-TR; right, so a two-level

17:04 schestowitz-TR; culling of "Creators" and/or "Content"

17:04 schestowitz-TR; then, deranking or shaddwbanning some

17:05 schestowitz-TR; the term for this is "social engineering"

17:06 techrights-sec; The order or sequence in which topics are shown matters *a lot* too,

17:06 techrights-sec; not just stuff which falls off the end of the page, but also which items

17:06 techrights-sec; are shown before other items. People have been shown to adopt positions based

17:06 techrights-sec; on incomplete or downright wrong content posing as information. Then, once

17:06 techrights-sec; their initial opinion has been shaped, almost all of them dig in and are

17:06 techrights-sec; more or less immune to any subsequent data regardless of the accuracy or weight.

17:06 techrights-sec; That would be one form of "social engineering" I guess

17:07 schestowitz-TR; "OK, so that photo of the door was of a fake sign, but RMS is a pervert anyway..."

17:08 techrights-sec; Basically

17:14 schestowitz-TR; (NEW): Rant: wordpress & privacy - self hosted instances upload all content to their CDN servers i2.wp.com imho without consent and no possibility to delete? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm

17:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm )

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/16/Rant_wordpress_privacy_self_hosted_instances_upload_all_content.shtm

17:20 techrights-sec; ack

17:49 schestowitz-TR; getting au data

17:49 schestowitz-TR; 5 ooxml files

17:49 schestowitz-TR; converting to odf

17:49 schestowitz-TR; that alone would be a good service

17:49 techrights-sec; ack

17:49 techrights-sec; There are no ooxml just mso of some variant


6 PM, October 16

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18:35 techrights-sec; Streaming javascript waste a lot of electricity

18:35 techrights-sec; https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-elephants-feasts-giant-pumpkins-oregon-zoo-91486376

↺ https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/family-elephants-feasts-giant-pumpkins-oregon-zoo-91486376

18:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-abcnews.go.com | Video Family of elephants feasts on giant pumpkins at the Oregon Zoo - ABC News

18:43 schestowitz-TR; thanks

18:43 schestowitz-TR; will pass to rianne

18:44 schestowitz-TR; I did two posts about aussia

18:44 schestowitz-TR; it was not as interesting as I assumed

18:44 schestowitz-TR; as only in 2022 the virus truly penetrated au and nz

18:44 schestowitz-TR; which explains the surge

18:44 schestowitz-TR; 2023 might be more interesting

18:44 schestowitz-TR; AFTER it managed millions of people

18:48 schestowitz-TR; rianne will try that link

18:48 schestowitz-TR; I cannot play the video in falkon

18:48 schestowitz-TR; or in librewold

18:48 schestowitz-TR; it's 2022 and web videos don't work

18:48 schestowitz-TR; unless you run a whole dedicate VM with proprietary programs

18:48 schestowitz-TR; lovelt!

18:58 techrights-sec; ack


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