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1 AM, January 16

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4 AM, January 16

04:20 techrigthssec; gm

04:20 techrigthssec; "The above was covered in ..."

04:20 techrigthssec; http://techrights.org/2023/01/15/microsoft-dropping-its-offices/

http://techrights.org/2023/01/15/microsoft-dropping-its-offices/

04:20 techrigthssec; What was above which was covered?

04:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Sunday (Holiday Weekend) News Drop: Microsoft is Dropping Its Offices in Its Homebase (Seattle) | Techrights

04:23 schestowitz-TR; this would be a problem for people who read onlyn summary but not gemini users

04:23 schestowitz-TR; in gemini they see headlines

04:24 schestowitz-TR; having said that, above can also b the title os post

04:24 schestowitz-TR; seems they timed layoff for day after mlk day

04:37 techrigthssec; ack

04:37 techrigthssec; The summary could summarize that however? ;)

04:37 techrigthssec; Running the de-javascripting script today over the archived tm gallery archive

04:55 schestowitz-TR; thanks for that

04:55 schestowitz-TR; I've put a draft in while video processes

04:56 schestowitz-TR; btw: gemini clocked ~75k reqs in past 3 days

04:56 schestowitz-TR; did not check what hoards pages

04:56 schestowitz-TR; posts about layoffs still top the list

04:56 schestowitz-TR; which I am happy about as it means people from inside Mirosoft read TR

04:56 schestowitz-TR; like EPO examiners reading about the issues with the patent systems

04:58 schestowitz-TR; when employees of X read TR, it is bad for management and agenda of X

04:58 schestowitz-TR; X= EPO, Microsoft, Sirius...

04:59 techrigthssec; Five of the top 8 are about M$ layoffs, the others are feeds and the main page

04:59 techrigthssec; etc

04:59 techrigthssec; The Edda Franz post is #10

04:59 techrigthssec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/

04:59 techrigthssec; but that's from a longer period than the last three days


5 AM, January 16

05:02 schestowitz-TR; even if just 10% of them become demoralised, that can already drive positive change

05:02 schestowitz-TR; and it's not easy getting there

05:02 schestowitz-TR; because there are typically preventive, proactove ad hom attacks on person/site

05:02 schestowitz-TR; russia uses that in a dirty way to sir up violence and hatred in europe and elsewhere

05:02 schestowitz-TR; here, it's corporate

05:02 schestowitz-TR; *stir

05:07 techrigthssec; Unfortunately most of the recent traffic seems to be from 'vulpes.one'

05:07 techrigthssec; Microsofters don't change their spots just because Bill has kicked them to

05:07 techrigthssec; the curb. They'll still be operatives for the larger cult until having

05:07 techrigthssec; a deep introspective look and repenting sincerely, or else captured and

05:07 techrigthssec; actively deprogrammed as per other cults.

05:07 techrigthssec; I'm betting that the former is a rare event and that Washington state is

05:07 techrigthssec; unwilling to shell out the money to do the latter, even if it had the backbone

05:07 techrigthssec; to go against a local political donor of that size.

05:07 techrigthssec; Furthermore most probably will be tricked or pressured into signing both

05:07 techrigthssec; NDAs and broad non-disparagement clauses in their separation "agreements"

05:08 schestowitz-TR; yes, them "just leaving" to get a bigger salary elsewhere (e.g. Google) won't solve the issue

05:08 schestowitz-TR; we need to see more Lewises who turn against Microsoft

05:09 techrigthssec; Yes, very much so.

05:10 schestowitz-TR; that depends on what divison/project they worked on

05:10 schestowitz-TR; it is still a (too) large company

05:10 schestowitz-TR; not sure how to consistently make money

05:10 schestowitz-TR; as "monopoly rents" egg away and the product is financialisation

05:10 schestowitz-TR; and graft

05:10 schestowitz-TR; *ebb

05:12 techrigthssec; They subsist on monopoly rents and almost none of the population understands

05:12 techrigthssec; that. The money is not from the "sale" of Windows, it is from the monopoly

05:12 techrigthssec; rents enabled by the OEM monopoly. Likewise, the money is not from the "sale"

05:12 techrigthssec; of MSO, it is from the monopoly rents enabled by the monopoly over productivity

05:12 techrigthssec; software file formats. Thus projects like "OnlyOffice" are exercises in

05:12 techrigthssec; futility as long as they fail to push an open standard like ODF and instead

05:12 techrigthssec; chase m$ ever-changing, undocumented, proprietary formats.

05:14 schestowitz-TR; draft

05:14 schestowitz-TR; I have begun writing some of the later terms in more general terms that might strike a nrve

05:14 schestowitz-TR; at a later point there will be a lengthy summary of the points covered

05:14 schestowitz-TR; and what advice I can give based on my personal experience

05:14 schestowitz-TR; I don't intend to get back into this _kind_ of job

05:18 techrigthssec; Excellent

05:18 techrigthssec; Good point

05:18 techrigthssec; Though some kind of other job can provide a good baseline or interaction outsideof advocacy. It in and of itself

05:18 techrigthssec; would provide localized outreach but also

05:18 techrigthssec; experience of how others are interacting with technology and their viewpoints

05:18 techrigthssec; and challenges.

05:18 techrigthssec; However, your /average/ person has worse than zero knowledge of ICT and actually

05:18 techrigthssec; believe and propagate misinformation about the services they are being used by.

05:19 schestowitz-TR; i am guessing some companies or unis move to microsoft

05:19 schestowitz-TR; when things fail microsot pushes them MORE microsoft

05:19 schestowitz-TR; to "prove" it'll work

05:19 schestowitz-TR; if only everything ran on Microsoft

05:25 techrigthssec; Yes. The problem is always that there wasn't sufficient faith in m$ and that

05:25 techrigthssec; is always solved by buying TheNextVersion(tm) and MOAR of it. For decades the

05:25 techrigthssec; cycle has been the same, it'd work if only they could achieve 100% m$ integration. Once that happens, the target

05:25 techrigthssec; goal posts move, and it would work if only they

05:25 techrigthssec; could purhcase TheNextVersion, and if that happens before they run out of

05:25 techrigthssec; money then the goals posts move again. At that point it becomes, it'd work

05:25 techrigthssec; if only they had the right m$ training. Then by that time, the $TheNextVersion

05:25 techrigthssec; has become $ThePreviousVersion and that part of the cycle starts again. And

05:25 techrigthssec; yes they still blame outright collapses on "Linux people" and your average

05:25 techrigthssec; worker agrees to believe that excuse.

05:25 techrigthssec; Since you mention the divisions enhanced and exploited by the Kremlin, the

05:25 techrigthssec; presence of m$ in the univerisities could be part of that since it severly

05:25 techrigthssec; impairs both learning, teaching, and research in both the short term and

05:25 techrigthssec; the long term, but especially the latter.

05:26 schestowitz-TR; mind if I quote or paraphrase the msft example?

05:30 techrigthssec;

05:30 techrigthssec; Paraphrasing is better if possible

05:30 techrigthssec; low quality hot takes don;t make good quotes unless polished substantiallly

05:30 techrigthssec; The problem is not new, it goes back to the 1990s. But for a recent example

05:30 techrigthssec; look at Aaron Swartz's blog post about CondeNast and why he had no choice but

05:30 techrigthssec; to walk out the door and not look back.

05:30 techrigthssec; http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/officespace

↺ http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/officespace

05:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.aaronsw.com | Office Space (Aaron Swartz's Raw Thought)

05:53 techrigthssec; PeopleSoft is far worse, and far more expensive, than SAP

05:53 techrigthssec; even

05:53 techrigthssec; "the only winning move is not to play"


6 AM, January 16

06:03 schestowitz-TR; i tried focusing only on grammar

06:03 schestowitz-TR; some people hate being MIS-quoted

06:33 schestowitz-TR; "I suspect modern sites consider it unusual behaviour to log out, or not have their cookies. If you run your browser in private mode, or use security extensions that periodically clear your cookies, or are using VPNs for certain tasks, you know what Im talking about." https://rubenerd.com/do-you-log-out-of-sites/

↺ https://rubenerd.com/do-you-log-out-of-sites/

06:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Rubenerd: Do you log out of sites?

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7 AM, January 16

07:05 schestowitz-TR; the url is wrong, sorry

07:05 schestowitz-TR; I pasted the wrong url

07:05 schestowitz-TR; doign the rest of the sirius series is going to be simpler

07:05 schestowitz-TR; less complex stories to cover from all angles

07:05 schestowitz-TR; and it's partly drafted already

07:05 schestowitz-TR; this week we'll hopefully see some microsoft layoffs

07:06 schestowitz-TR; can do 10 posts/day on average

07:06 schestowitz-TR; i think we're done buying food for now, got a backlog with whole boxes and crates

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07:16 schestowitz-TR; Rumour: Microsoft Managers Trained 4 Days Ago on How to Tell About 5,000 Microsoft Employees That Theyre Sacked | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/01/16/microsoft-managers-layoff-training/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/16/microsoft-managers-layoff-training/

http://techrights.org/2023/01/16/microsoft-managers-layoff-training/

gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/01/16/microsoft-managers-layoff-training/

07:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Rumour: Microsoft Managers Trained 4 Days Ago on How to Tell About 5,000 Microsoft Employees That Theyre Sacked | Techrights

07:28 techrigthssec; How will those 5k get de-programmed so that they can change enough to become

07:28 techrigthssec; productive members of society for once?

07:28 techrigthssec; They'd also need serious retraining since due to m$ they are unfit for work

07:28 techrigthssec; anywhere with IT. The mind set for learning IT is probably missing so different

07:28 techrigthssec; fields would be necessary.

07:29 schestowitz-TR; many large firms with similar salary levels have hiring freeze

07:29 schestowitz-TR; this means they might have to aim not downwards

07:29 schestowitz-TR; but another kind of occupation

07:29 schestowitz-TR; then, microsoftism has minimal effect

07:29 schestowitz-TR; lewis does gardening, iirc

07:29 techrigthssec; Yes but Lewis reformed. Most others are still corrupt and ignorant even of how

07:29 techrigthssec; bad the products they are spreading have been, and so will continue to spread

07:29 techrigthssec; them even without further pay.

07:38 schestowitz-TR; with these 5-pound binocular we can both see the city centre buildings at window level

07:38 schestowitz-TR; it's not gigantic optical stack, but enough for most needs

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8 AM, January 16

08:14 schestowitz-TR; (of course many things are becoming more plastic-y over time and shops reassure you that this is ok

08:14 schestowitz-TR; and you should buy it regardless. it's "progress"; new is "better"; we saw some typewriters on sale yesterday)

08:14 schestowitz-TR; ((no, i have no use for them and ribbons are probably expensive anyway these day, like coffee "capsules"))

08:24 techrigthssec; Fabric ribbons can be re-inked. Carbon film ribbons are an environmental

08:24 techrigthssec; problem being plastic and all.


9 AM, January 16

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10 AM, January 16

10:11 schestowitz-TR; i saw a lot of articles about leaving twitter this past week

10:11 schestowitz-TR; one can hope things like these, which many people read, will influence them

10:11 schestowitz-TR; the latest TR post is unfinished

10:11 schestowitz-TR; I published it with typoe as exercise started

10:11 schestowitz-TR; maybe you can spot mistakes, still editing..

10:37 schestowitz-TR; trying to find more topics to cover till links are ready

10:37 schestowitz-TR; 12 posts in past 24 hours

10:38 techrigthssec; The first gallery might be ready: http://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

↺ http://news.tuxmachines.org/gallery/

10:38 techrigthssec; The Google Analytics script has been defanged.

10:38 techrigthssec; Anything missing or broken

10:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | TuxGallery

10:38 schestowitz-TR; going to ehcek now

10:45 schestowitz-TR; did you stop tm-new?

10:45 schestowitz-TR; or did I do something at the ui that causes it?

10:46 techrigthssec; Thanks

10:46 techrigthssec; No change here but can check

10:49 schestowitz-TR; maybe firewalled?

10:49 schestowitz-TR; i see rss feed link, search box, and advanced search remained unchanged

10:49 schestowitz-TR; lloks like my ip got bloakced for http+s

10:55 techrigthssec; It's still going

10:55 techrigthssec; Should those be changed? They're currently copied verbatim from tm-old

10:55 techrigthssec; checking

10:55 techrigthssec; Which IP address? nft list ruleset | less


11 AM, January 16

11:00 techrigthssec; a BT address is runing wget against tm-new, is that yours?

11:00 techrigthssec; -Another script to neutralize the Advanced Search links is needed

11:00 techrigthssec; Same for the RSS Feed links

11:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, sorry, biab, food

11:07 schestowitz-TR; ok, back, i think that's all I caught before the address got blocked

11:08 schestowitz; <li>

11:08 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://9to5linux.com/kodi-20-nexus-released-with-av1-hardware-decoding-on-linux-pipewire-support">Kodi 20 Nexus Released with AV1 Hardware Decoding on Linux, PipeWire Support</a></h5>

↺ https://9to5linux.com/kodi-20-nexus-released-with-av1-hardware-decoding-on-linux-pipewire-support">Kodi

11:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kodi 20 "Nexus" Released with AV1 Hardware Decoding on Linux, PipeWire Support - 9to5Linux

11:08 schestowitz; <blockquote>

11:08 schestowitz; <p>Kodi 20 Nexus is a massive update that comes nearly two years after Kodi 19 Matrix to introduce major and exciting new features like support for the PipeWire multimedia server, AV1 hardware decoding on Linux via VA-API (Video Acceleration API), AV1 codec support for InputStream, as well as built-in Steam Deck controller support.</p>

11:08 schestowitz; </blockquote>

11:09 schestowitz; </li>

11:41 techrigthssec; It should be unblocked by now. It is just a matter of removing it from

11:41 techrigthssec; the set in NFT. Working on neutralizing the Advanced Search and RSS links.

11:41 techrigthssec; script running

11:41 techrigthssec; It will take a long time

11:55 schestowitz-TR; "It is astonishing how many people are incapable of comprehending the following phrase from the article below..." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/01/twitter-ban/ | Source: Craig Murray

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/01/twitter-ban/

11:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.craigmurray.org.uk | Twitter Ban - Craig Murray

11:58 schestowitz-TR; "All this on a 15 year old blue tick account with 110,000 followers. The account still exists and is visible online, though very difficult to find because of extreme shadowbanning." https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/01/twitter-ban/

↺ https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/01/twitter-ban/

11:59 schestowitz-TR; in eurasia you don't get silenced

11:59 schestowitz-TR; you "CHOOSE" to say nothing


noon, January 16

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12:08 techrigthssec; Yep he's paying the price for having fed twitter.

12:08 techrigthssec; It's a bad situation all around -- still

12:09 schestowitz-TR; it was

12:09 schestowitz-TR; a) inevitable

12:09 schestowitz-TR; b) causing his to blog less

12:09 schestowitz-TR; c) distracted from the importance of rss feeds, mailing lists etc. (in his control/domain)

12:09 schestowitz-TR; s/his/him/

12:10 techrigthssec; d) political in origin

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1 PM, January 16

13:11 schestowitz-TR; the fsf's choice of keynote seems political

13:11 schestowitz-TR; never heard of that speaker

13:11 schestowitz-TR; the fsf became too much about "optics"

13:12 schestowitz-TR; you lose sight of the goal when you assess papers or talks based on desired political outcomes

13:22 techrigthssec; Searching for "fsf" and "keynote"

13:22 techrigthssec; brings up a news.tuxmachines.org link among the first 10 hits

13:22 techrigthssec; :)

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11 PM, January 16

23:20 techrigthssec; The gallery has been updated, though the login link needs to be eliminated still


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