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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, November 15, 2022

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1 AM, November 15

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9 AM, November 15

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09:32 schestowitz-TR; for a number of days ipfs was not responding

09:32 schestowitz-TR; I've logged in to the server and it seems like ipfs was simply not running

09:32 schestowitz-TR; it added new objects

09:32 schestowitz-TR; but was not making anything available

09:32 schestowitz-TR; today I booted again (after 100+ days) "cavan"

09:32 schestowitz-TR; the power connector is not good

09:32 schestowitz-TR; it ran out of juice overnight

09:32 schestowitz-TR; so anyway, I'd rejigged my monitoring setup there

09:32 schestowitz-TR; I'll now observe ipfs fro downtime

09:37 Techrightssec; back

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10 AM, November 15

10:25 schestowitz-TR; England and Wales: Deaths Up 21% Compared to Pre-COVID-19 Levels, Based on Data Released Only Moments Ago https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/health-crisis/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/health-crisis/

10:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England and Wales: Deaths Up 21% Compared to Pre-COVID-19 Levels, Based on Data Released Only Moments Ago

10:55 Techrightssec; Several steps forward in moving the link workflow to tr-new.


11 AM, November 15

11:01 schestowitz-TR; ONS Official Data: Deaths Rose in All Age Groups https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/deaths-rose-in-all-age-groups/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/15/deaths-rose-in-all-age-groups/

11:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS Official Data: Deaths Rose in All Age Groups

11:05 schestowitz-TR; i put down a conclusion there

11:05 schestowitz-TR; I check these every week

11:05 schestowitz-TR; tl;dr ons insists it's not due to covid or long covid, so one might be led to conclude the vaccines

11:05 schestowitz-TR; are causing death failure and other damage in ALL age groups

11:05 schestowitz-TR; (I read males are affected worse by the cardiac aspect of it)

11:05 schestowitz-TR; medical science is advancing over time, but then again nhs defunded, so thus al alternative explanation

11:05 schestowitz-TR; aunt goes under the knife AGAIN later today

11:05 schestowitz-TR; she will lose weight

11:05 schestowitz-TR; they caught it a bit late

11:05 Techrightssec; ack

11:05 Techrightssec; It's almost uniform across age groups

11:10 Techrightssec; I hope she does ok

11:10 Techrightssec; I hope she does ok

11:10 schestowitz-TR; BMA chief warns Scotland's GPs are at 'tipping point' - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792 Source: BBC | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792

↺ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792

↺ gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63628792

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bbc.co.uk | BMA chief warns Scotland's GPs are at 'tipping point' - BBC News

11:13 Techrightssec; The understaffing and underfunding is intentional, the apparent goal is to

11:13 Techrightssec; drive desperate people away from the NHS and into the private sector. Then

11:13 Techrightssec; the stats will show "increased demand"

11:45 schestowitz-TR; to repat myself to myself:

11:46 schestowitz-TR; all this time spent studying (for myself) covid data is time well spent

11:46 schestowitz-TR; because a day spent checking how many infections there are (it goes up and down)

11:46 schestowitz-TR; can spare a week of pain and zero productivity

11:48 schestowitz-TR; ===

11:48 schestowitz-TR; "everyone is moving to the clown, I do not"

11:48 schestowitz-TR; "all my friends are using mobile and apps, then their data leaks"

11:48 schestowitz-TR; "all the people at the shops act like there's no health issue, only I wear a mask

11:49 schestowitz-TR; [05:42] <techrights-news> Good American dont form their own opinions https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/good-american-dont-form-their-own-opinions/

↺ https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/11/14/good-american-dont-form-their-own-opinions/

11:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-neritam.wordpress.com | Good American dont form their own opinions neritam

11:50 Techrightssec; ack

11:58 Techrightssec; Carlin


noon, November 15

12:36 schestowitz-TR; x uses y for z, so y -- not z -- is really bad. also, y is responsible for x

12:36 schestowitz-TR; e.g. wordpress is responsible for nazis that download wordpress

12:36 schestowitz-TR; wordpress is literally "naziware"

12:38 schestowitz-TR; iirc, cisco


1 PM, November 15

13:11 Techrightssec; Cisco is very, very overpriced and insecure

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13:52 schestowitz-TR; I've just told rianne that when it comes to TM

13:52 schestowitz-TR; lately we've not done UPDATED much

13:52 schestowitz-TR; as there was nothing to add, or seldom anything

13:52 schestowitz-TR; iow, if site xyz covered some issue, it's not too likely another site would later do the same

13:52 schestowitz-TR; this is unlike only months ago

13:52 schestowitz-TR; a bit of a mystery

13:52 schestowitz-TR; I've just added some gemini:// links to keep tm buzzing

13:53 Techrightssec; ack

13:53 Techrightssec; Maybe it's the result of further cutbacks?

13:53 Techrightssec; FWIW the web-based mastodon stuff no longer works even a little without

13:53 Techrightssec; javascript. It's completely f-ed

13:53 Techrightssec; The guy writing the code must be quite a dickhead

13:55 schestowitz-TR; yes, I am aware and am not happy

13:55 schestowitz-TR; it is even worse

13:55 schestowitz-TR; it does not work at all, js set aside, with some decent browsers

13:55 schestowitz-TR; you would get banned for calling anyone a dickhead

13:55 schestowitz-TR; even criminals like bill gates and xi

13:55 schestowitz-TR; cocware is for dick picks and "furries"

13:55 schestowitz-TR; it's not for changing the world for the better

13:55 schestowitz-TR; *pics

13:55 Techrightssec; ack

13:56 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/2022/11/14/repost-of-mastodon-vs-ryan-farmer/

http://techrights.org/2022/11/14/repost-of-mastodon-vs-ryan-farmer/

13:56 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | I Was Already Banned From Mastodon.social After Three Days for Insulting the Chinese Communist Government and Talking About Bill Gates | Techrights

13:59 Techrightssec; The way he's writing it, it has been very clear that he is not interested

13:59 Techrightssec; even a little at maximizing outreach nor in the original ideals of the WWW

13:59 Techrightssec; Check the latest from Ryan :(


2 PM, November 15

14:07 schestowitz-TR; which latest? The COVID post that rants about politics?

14:07 schestowitz-TR; oh, I get it now

14:07 schestowitz-TR; I connected the first bit and second bit

14:07 schestowitz-TR; the first bit is about the coder/s of mastodon

14:07 schestowitz-TR; the second is not related to that

14:07 schestowitz-TR; it had me confuised, I even refreshed the feeds for that

14:07 Techrightssec; COVID

14:07 Techrightssec; right not connectedd

14:07 Techrightssec; chat is always disjunct

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14:14 Techrightssec; With Mastodon, it seems to be the only way to find links to Glyn Moody's writing

14:14 Techrightssec; in a timely manner. Yet the instance he is on is one of the growing number

14:14 Techrightssec; that blocks regular web access and insists on abusing the browser as a

14:14 Techrightssec; crappy VM for wonky, proprietary (or semiproprietary) code.

14:25 schestowitz-TR; i just use his several rss feeds

14:25 schestowitz-TR; simple is good

14:26 Techrightssec; Can you post one?

14:26 Techrightssec; RSS is far preferable than the timewasting UI

14:26 Techrightssec; What are the URLs for his feeds?

14:27 schestowitz-TR; there is one for opendot dot dot in blogspot but it's rarely active anymore

14:27 schestowitz-TR; the copyright blog of his is more active

14:27 schestowitz-TR; you are the one who gave me the url

14:36 Techrightssec; RFERL seems to have more or less been posting filler starting about a week ago

14:39 schestowitz-TR; what you are describing is very much applicable to a ton of feeds I follow

14:39 schestowitz-TR; inc. "linux" ones

14:39 schestowitz-TR; I've been cussing over that lately

14:39 schestowitz-TR; even when they are ON-TOPIC linking to them means sending googlejuice to webspam

14:39 schestowitz-TR; and potentially getting penalised by association

14:39 schestowitz-TR; linking to spamfarms

14:39 schestowitz-TR; when this repeats a lot I try to write a quick blog post about it

14:39 schestowitz-TR; and then link to that later, each time it's observed again

14:39 schestowitz-TR; e.g. it jungle (ibm propaganda for like a decade, but getting more blatant)

14:44 schestowitz-TR; this will be our biggest challenge in the next ten years

14:44 schestowitz-TR; you cannot find many posts to link to or rely on for topics/ideas/sourcing/bakcing

14:44 schestowitz-TR; you can either go down with the boat (www)

14:44 schestowitz-TR; or seek alternative, emergent protocols

14:44 schestowitz-TR; people still look for info

14:44 schestowitz-TR; if you don't give it to them in MSM, they will find alternatives

14:44 schestowitz-TR; and social control media like youtube will suppress the alternatives

14:44 schestowitz-TR; they are "disinformation"

14:44 schestowitz-TR; i like irc communities

14:44 schestowitz-TR; we don't need a coc because we don't need to "federate" with other networks

14:44 schestowitz-TR; and most people are not from opposing "camps" pitted to fight one another

14:44 schestowitz-TR; so irc is vastly more sustainable

14:44 schestowitz-TR; if someone is a total jerk, people will gang up

14:45 Techrightssec; I would go as far as to say that most old articles are now gone, not just

14:45 Techrightssec; couting the ones with new URLs and no forwarding but just plain gone

14:45 Techrightssec; Or copyright strikes :/

14:45 Techrightssec; TM just timed out. Checking

14:45 Techrightssec; Just veeeeerrrrry slow

14:47 schestowitz-TR; yes, tm timed out a bit in the past 24 hours

14:47 schestowitz-TR; but it always recovers fast

14:47 schestowitz-TR; not sure if network-related

14:47 schestowitz-TR; i now monitor, on cavan, tm-new top so I can see tor, gemini and ipfs as top processes

14:47 schestowitz-TR; sorryt, I meant tr-new

14:47 Techrightssec; ack

14:49 schestowitz-TR; when clarify comes (by year's end) we'll do lots of shuffling around here

14:49 schestowitz-TR; i still have a 12- or 15-meter ethernet cable

14:49 schestowitz-TR; it's bridging top and bottom floor, but can be used for other stuff

14:49 schestowitz-TR; my sister bought it for me ages ago

14:49 schestowitz-TR; *clarity

14:51 schestowitz-TR; one recent accomplishment for TR was, a lot of political stuff was redirected to a suitably named channel

14:51 schestowitz-TR; and trolls can be dealt with with ultimatum

14:51 schestowitz-TR; stop trolling/conform or stfu

14:51 schestowitz-TR; and so bans are almost never needed

14:51 schestowitz-TR; nor should they be

14:51 schestowitz-TR; mastodon is going to break many hearts

14:51 schestowitz-TR; and waste many people's time

14:51 schestowitz-TR; they should know better

14:51 schestowitz-TR; get a ball and go out or something

14:52 Techrightssec; ack

14:52 Techrightssec; It will especially waste time and cause frustration. The blacklist is centralized and not so much up to the federated instances. That

14:52 Techrightssec; is a severe weakness.


3 PM, November 15

15:26 schestowitz-TR; "the largest higher education strike in U.S. history" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/14/48000-unionized-university-california-academic-workers-launch-historic-strike | Source: Common Dreams

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/11/14/48000-unionized-university-california-academic-workers-launch-historic-strike

15:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | 48,000 Unionized University of California Academic Workers Launch 'Historic' Strike

15:29 Techrightssec; ack

15:29 Techrightssec; "... while highly paid administrators live in publicly funded mansions, ..."

15:29 Techrightssec; administration costs have been going through the roof, year after year for

15:29 Techrightssec; forty or so years

15:29 Techrightssec; m$ and the empire builders exploiting m$ are also part of the problem

15:32 schestowitz-TR; in the UK, [money] "going into administration" does not mean what it may sound like

15:32 schestowitz-TR; it's when orgs break doen completely

15:32 schestowitz-TR; *down

15:32 schestowitz-TR; orac is once again using straw man BS; basically asserting that everyone is "quack" and "antivaxx"

15:32 schestowitz-TR; that site can be rather strident at times

15:32 schestowitz-TR; iirc, the author is a former surgeon or something

15:35 Techrightssec; ack

15:35 Techrightssec; ad hominem is a fallacy but remains in use because it is effective; it is

15:35 Techrightssec; afterall part of the reason we ended up with systemd; the other part of the

15:35 Techrightssec; reason was appeal to novelty;

15:35 schestowitz-TR; it is not pleasant trying to reason or debate with people who thro around labels

15:35 schestowitz-TR; like "quack", "paraoid", etc.

15:35 schestowitz-TR; it means no substance gets debated

15:35 schestowitz-TR; people who cannot form an aregument do this

15:35 schestowitz-TR; another one: "election denier"

15:46 Techrightssec; The "election denier" phenomenom is in part a strawman to deflect from the

15:46 Techrightssec; fundamentally defective nature of the electronic voting systems and to

15:46 Techrightssec; discredit any and all criticism.

15:48 schestowitz-TR; I was going to mention another example or label

15:48 schestowitz-TR; spent like 5 minutes trying to recall it after foirgetting while typing

15:48 schestowitz-TR; but anyway, there are so many

15:48 schestowitz-TR; using partisan tactics is an extra

15:48 schestowitz-TR; stigma aside

15:48 schestowitz-TR; I'm about to finalise daily links

15:48 schestowitz-TR; lots of links today in "merged"

15:48 schestowitz-TR; twie already (so far today) I forgot unimportant things that I wanted to say

15:48 schestowitz-TR; best to not even bother recalling them

15:48 schestowitz-TR; OK, so thehackernews has basically becomes a part-time WEBSPAM site, shilling crap under the guise of 'articles'. Not good at all! https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/deep-packet-inspection-vs-metadata.html

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/deep-packet-inspection-vs-metadata.html

15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Deep Packet Inspection vs. Metadata Analysis of Network Detection & Response (NDR) Solutions

15:53 Techrightssec; ack

15:59 schestowitz-TR; This seems to be all about Microsoft Windows (Hannotog and Sagerunex) but dishonestly disguised as a "China" problem https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/researchers-say-china-state-backed.html also demonstrates the limits of CAs as a shallow security model

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/researchers-say-china-state-backed.html

15:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Researchers Say China State-backed Hackers Breached a Digital Certificate Authority


4 PM, November 15

16:06 Techrightssec; It's also a dodge avoiding looking at the defective nature of how CAs are

16:06 Techrightssec; made and distributed and deployed, especially in browsers.

16:06 schestowitz-TR; i might just delete this feed soon

16:07 schestowitz-TR; the site is run by idiots and spammers

16:07 schestowitz-TR; who repeat Windows insecurity companies' words

16:09 schestowitz-TR; So many CORPORATIONS calling themselves "researchers" but if you examine the actual quality of the "research" you realise it's just self-promotional marketing, PR, often lies and distortions of data

16:11 Techrightssec; I've never really found it high enough quality to have in coverage.

16:11 Techrightssec; It's mostly a bunch of m$ fanbois

16:11 schestowitz-TR; going to delete this feed now

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I've seen enough crap

16:11 schestowitz-TR; and I don't want to send traffic to their webspam

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I think I added it to track their mentions of "Linux" originally

16:11 schestowitz-TR; not because of the quality of the site

16:23 Techrightssec; AFAIK they have very rarely mentioned "Linux" and even then never in a favorable

16:23 Techrightssec; discussion.

16:27 schestowitz-TR; yes, but that is why I started following them

16:27 schestowitz-TR; becqause I wanted to see the FUD too

16:27 schestowitz-TR; and now go via Gulag

16:27 schestowitz-TR; either way, lots of thinking today and still no decent topics to cover

16:27 schestowitz-TR; and some thinking gets "lost in the mail"

16:27 schestowitz-TR; which is kind of annoying tbh (but ought not be)

16:27 schestowitz-TR; finalising daily links

16:27 schestowitz-TR; trying not to post too many new pages too fast, I changes the pipeline a little

16:27 schestowitz-TR; rianne was deeply disturbed by that dog torture url

16:27 schestowitz-TR; she had enjoyed watching rescued elephants before that

16:27 schestowitz-TR; at one point www was "like a newspaper" but "this time on a web page"

16:27 schestowitz-TR; the quality sank a lot

16:27 schestowitz-TR; now we have idiots posing as "hacker news"

16:27 schestowitz-TR; trying to ride the brand of an unelated site like conde nasty's reddit

16:28 Techrightssec; ack

16:29 schestowitz-TR; with all the topic "research" robertson did in reddit (shills of nasty companies

16:29 schestowitz-TR; guarded by mods of conde nasty, WHICH THE COMPANIES ARE PAYING)

16:29 schestowitz-TR; he did not know how to back up his data and lost a ton of his work

16:42 schestowitz-TR; glad to see recent urls about

16:42 schestowitz-TR; 1) also amazon layoffs

16:42 schestowitz-TR; 2) dead amazon products

16:42 schestowitz-TR; 3) some amazon divisions losing money

16:42 schestowitz-TR; vindicates me on a lot of fronts, not just outside work

16:42 schestowitz-TR; clown computing is a dumb bubble to technophobes and posers

16:42 schestowitz-TR; technophiles know clown is meaningless junk

16:42 schestowitz-TR; like gadgeteeering

16:42 schestowitz-TR; the problem is, incompetent people can rise up to decision-making roles

16:42 schestowitz-TR; this is a problem in society outside tech, too

16:44 schestowitz-TR; Elon Musk is the best thing that ever happened to people who want to see Social Control Media, inc. Twitter, going down the drain. It has barely been 3 weeks and it goes down like the Titanic. https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/sudo-syslog-ng-news-mastodon/

↺ https://peter.czanik.hu/posts/sudo-syslog-ng-news-mastodon/

16:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-peter.czanik.hu | Sudo and syslog-ng news on Mastodon | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik


5 PM, November 15

17:24 Techrightssec; There were a few articles last week about clown computing not being cost effective or time efficient, rather it turns out to be a cost-

17:24 Techrightssec; and time-sink

17:28 schestowitz-TR; proprietary interfaces and staff that eithher does not know how to user them or knows jujst onem

17:28 schestowitz-TR; and hence, with bogus "Certification", becomes a reseller for some foreign brand

17:28 schestowitz-TR; iow, working for "Amazon" or "Microsoft" on your payroll

17:28 schestowitz-TR; for clown migration

17:28 schestowitz-TR; and other staff does not know how to use the darn thing

17:28 schestowitz-TR; moving to another clown or off the clown invalidates all the documentation

17:28 schestowitz-TR; e.g. D-R

17:28 schestowitz-TR; just got back from a walk around the corner to the shop

17:28 schestowitz-TR; got two large bottle of squeezed orange juice

17:29 schestowitz-TR; no time for vitamin deficits ;-)

17:29 schestowitz-TR; finalising daily links, this time for real

17:29 schestowitz-TR; could not think of topics while walking/exercising

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17:50 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

17:50 Techrightssec; (and costs are unfavorable to clown as well)

17:52 schestowitz-TR; on mumble, brb


6 PM, November 15

18:06 schestowitz-TR; it goes like this:

18:06 schestowitz-TR; azure et al

18:06 schestowitz-TR; a) offer something at a loss

18:06 schestowitz-TR; b) entice users

18:06 schestowitz-TR; c) vendor lock-in

18:06 schestowitz-TR; d) lose money for a while, repeat (b)

18:06 schestowitz-TR; e) try to actual make money

18:06 schestowitz-TR; users realise it's starting to get very expensive

18:06 schestowitz-TR; but due to (c) it's hard to get OUT

18:08 Techrightssec; Yes, it relies heavily on loss leaders and even price dumping.

18:08 Techrightssec; Those are only used long enough to decommodify the access and get people

18:08 Techrightssec; hooked on a proprietary adminstrative interface so that they can't / don't have

18:08 Techrightssec; SSH even available.

18:08 Techrightssec; Nor do they have a plain old console for out-of-band control.

18:08 Techrightssec; Each company has a different way to spin up / down VMs and very different ways

18:08 Techrightssec; to set them up. But others could more accurately describe the situation.

18:08 Techrightssec; c) decommodify the UI

18:11 schestowitz-TR; companies that becomew just microsoft or bezos resellers are doomed

18:11 schestowitz-TR; the company that does the hosting can replace them at any time

18:11 schestowitz-TR; they are just serfs and resellers

18:11 schestowitz-TR; giving the "Services" of outsourcing... to a TEAP

18:11 schestowitz-TR; *TRAP

18:11 schestowitz-TR; rackspace, for instance, can give better support

18:11 schestowitz-TR; so all those resellers are perewptually at a position of disaverntage

18:11 schestowitz-TR; and at the mercy of the true host

18:11 schestowitz-TR; good luck explaining this to people who are clueless but well connected

18:11 schestowitz-TR; there is also the element of DE-skilling

18:11 schestowitz-TR; replacing ACTUAL skills with piece of paper ("certificcation"

18:13 Techrightssec; The deskilling also occurs through what the companies have been doing to the

18:13 Techrightssec; educational system, not just K-12 but especially small colleges and even

18:13 Techrightssec; major universities.

18:13 Techrightssec; A "certification" on a CV is usually a red flag and a signal that it is best

18:13 Techrightssec; to route that particular CV straight to the bit bucket.

18:15 Techrightssec; It's only a slight exaggeration to point out that certification looks like

18:15 Techrightssec; paying for a piece of paper.

18:16 schestowitz-TR; sometimes not even paper anymore

18:16 schestowitz-TR; just a screenshot


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