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1 AM, July 15

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7 AM, July 15

07:29 schestowitz-TR; I've managed to post >12 per day lately, even if many are memes and daily links

07:29 schestowitz-TR; and I've not even left my job yet

07:29 schestowitz-TR; will let you know if kaniini prgresses

07:29 schestowitz-TR; are you still making nightly backups?

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8 AM, July 15

08:19 Techrights-sec; not lately, I have to find a new work flow that does not use up all the RAM

08:19 Techrights-sec; here on the client end

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9 AM, July 15

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10 AM, July 15

10:11 schestowitz-TR; daily links due, just sayin in case something went amiss, not complaining

10:49 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/Leigh__420/status/1547854974305964033#m

↺ https://nitter.it/Leigh__420/status/1547854974305964033#m

10:49 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Leigh420 (@Leigh__420): "OK Dump Duck really Bling! Now To move on da #Brave ship! http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/"|nitter.it

http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/"|nitter.it

10:50 schestowitz-TR; "

10:50 schestowitz-TR; This one needs to be deleted... my connection to Tux Machines was interrupted and the post appeared twice...

10:50 schestowitz-TR; Done. I've unpublished the second one.

10:50 schestowitz-TR; You can unpublish, I think, in edit options.

10:50 schestowitz-TR; We'll soon move to a better CMS (static). We're developing our own (announcement soon).

10:50 schestowitz-TR; We have surges like DDoS attacks. It reached the threshold for httpd restart at load average >45.

10:50 schestowitz-TR; Moving to static pages will make the site faster, more robust, and secured for a decade to come. This current database is 18 years old!

10:50 schestowitz-TR; We'd have to set you up with an account, but it's still work in progress.

10:50 schestowitz-TR; If you can reply to confirm you see this, that would help.

10:50 schestowitz-TR; "

10:50 schestowitz-TR; http://tuxmachines.org/node/167254#comment-34351

↺ http://tuxmachines.org/node/167254#comment-34351

10:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-tuxmachines.org | TUXEDO Aquaris Announced as First Water Cooling System for Linux Laptops | Tux Machines


11 AM, July 15

11:48 schestowitz-TR; they are at it again at BillBC

11:48 schestowitz-TR; I am deeply disgustd

11:48 schestowitz-TR; rianne read it out to me

11:48 schestowitz-TR; I ghope the layoffs continue until the last person turns the lights off

11:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> BillBC still acting as mouthpiece for Famous Criminal Bill Gates pretending he's not rich and pretending only Prince Andrew is the Epstein scandal. BBC ha

11:48 schestowitz-TR; s learned nothing from Jimmy Savile. Still covering up for pedophiles in exchange for money.

11:48 Techrights-sec; they'll lay off the talent first and save the microsofters and bullshitters

11:48 Techrights-sec; ack

11:48 Techrights-sec; they'll lay off the talent first and save the microsofters and bullshitters

11:55 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140722.html#tJul%2014%2008:32:16

http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140722.html#tJul%2014%2008:32:16

11:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 14, 2022

11:55 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140722.html#tJul%2014%2008:32:17

http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-140722.html#tJul%2014%2008:32:17

11:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 14, 2022

11:55 schestowitz; # yeah. that's bad judgement to do so.

11:55 schestowitz; Unless you understand that the person behind this is himself as bad as the target if not worse


noon, July 15

12:00 schestowitz-TR; With no sympathy for either of them, let them waste each other's time

12:00 schestowitz-TR; which is exactly what happened as a result of that

12:00 schestowitz-TR; in fact, I want no connection with either of them

12:00 schestowitz-TR; it would only harm us

12:00 schestowitz-TR; with herr sixel, calling him out when he enters helps discourage further association

12:00 schestowitz-TR; as per

12:00 schestowitz-TR; "seems to happen to everything that claims free speech" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140722.html#tJul%2014%2018:41:32

http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140722.html#tJul%2014%2018:41:32

12:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, July 14, 2022

12:00 schestowitz-TR; what "sixel" (michael ackermann) posts in Techrights is mostly a liability

12:00 schestowitz-TR; at the very least, distancing ourselves helps

12:00 schestowitz-TR; but it ruins the channel nonetheless

12:00 schestowitz-TR; as for "britney" or "reptoiz", either trolling or severe mental condition

12:00 schestowitz-TR; Don't respect people who sympathise with Hitler, David Ike, or Orange Nazi IMHO

12:00 schestowitz-TR; and they will get the point that they're unwanted

12:00 Techrights-sec; ok

12:00 Techrights-sec; more context was needed in the link then

12:00 Techrights-sec; I had thought the comment was from someone else

12:00 schestowitz-TR; and go ruin some place else

12:00 schestowitz-TR; better than censorship imho

12:02 schestowitz-TR; this is the person who destroyed freenode

12:02 schestowitz-TR; and even mass banned good people in the #fsf channel

12:02 schestowitz-TR; this is a bad actor

12:02 schestowitz-TR; bad faith etc.

12:02 schestowitz-TR; in the past I just ignore his message and refused to even respond for fear of association, however remote

12:02 schestowitz-TR; remember the "mark fink"incident

12:02 schestowitz-TR; and how it was used by Microsoft bacon

12:02 Techrights-sec; ok

12:02 schestowitz-TR; et al

12:05 Techrights-sec; ack

12:23 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 is not over. Soon 3 years and still running wild. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_<techrights-news> COVID-19 is not over. Soon 3 years and still running wild. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_omicron_variant | Source: Democracy Nowomicron_variant | Source: Democracy Now

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_<techrights-news>

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_omicron_variant

12:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_<techrights-news )

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_<techrights-news

12:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.democracynow.org | Reinfection Wave: Ed Yong on BA.5 Omicron Variant Spread Amid Mask Mandate Rollbacks, Funding Cuts | Democracy Now!

12:36 Techrights-sec; ack

12:36 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> COVID-19 is not over. Soon 3 years and still running wild. https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_omicron_variant | Source: Democracy Now

↺ https://www.democracynow.org/2022/7/14/atlantic_ed_yong_ba5_omicron_variant


1 PM, July 15

13:22 schestowitz-TR; Storing information on paper using the Pen To Paper protocol gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/pen-to-paper-protocol.gmi

↺ gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/pen-to-paper-protocol.gmi

13:23 Techrights-sec; paper is good either for something very temporary or else, with the right

13:23 Techrights-sec; organization, for decades

13:26 schestowitz-TR; filing skills have been shalved (mind the metaphor)

13:26 schestowitz-TR; and won't be taught anymore

13:26 schestowitz-TR; now it's "phone" and "clown"

13:26 schestowitz-TR; and those do not last long at all

13:26 schestowitz-TR; eitgher of them

13:26 schestowitz-TR; so the mind has short-term retention without off-the-shelf (metaphorically, figurately, or physically)

13:26 schestowitz-TR; knowledge

13:26 schestowitz-TR; such as a stack of books or sites that last decades

13:26 schestowitz-TR; social control media is always very short lived and very hard to search

13:26 schestowitz-TR; even for one's own writings

13:26 schestowitz-TR; that's by design

13:26 schestowitz-TR; it's of no use for "enagagmenet"

13:26 schestowitz-TR; so the UI would, at best, make it an afterhthought

13:26 schestowitz-TR; *figuratively

13:27 Techrights-sec; they aren't even taught hiearchies and file system access,

13:27 Techrights-sec; it's killing incoming CS students when they lack not just fundamental skills

13:27 Techrights-sec; but even fundamental concepts

13:27 Techrights-sec; searching was never intended to increase the utility of social control media

13:27 Techrights-sec; just the illusion of utility so that the engagement is increased and

13:27 Techrights-sec; more behaviors are "emitted" for harvesting

13:29 schestowitz-TR; I shall alert you of any further findings of special relevance

13:29 schestowitz-TR; still have 750 lines left of daily links

13:29 schestowitz-TR; if you can think of topics, say something

13:29 schestowitz-TR; I've got little on the stack other thjan shithub and epo

13:29 schestowitz-TR; and I pace these down for increased effect

13:29 schestowitz-TR; this weekend we'll have parts 9-12, I will upload these when ready to your machine as a backup

13:29 schestowitz-TR; we don't have moles [sic] in every org, but one that's connected to many others can be enough

13:29 schestowitz-TR; as they're all closely connected, based upon the same top-down model

13:37 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> $2 Trillion for War Versus $100 Billion to Save the Planet https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/2-trillion-for-war-versus-100-billion-to-save-the-planet/ no, that's GRAFT disguised as "defence" or "national security". See http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/\

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/2-trillion-for-war-versus-100-billion-to-save-the-planet/

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/\

13:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-$2 Trillion for War Versus $100 Billion to Save the Planet - CounterPunch.org

13:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/\ )

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/\

13:37 schestowitz-TR; waiting for marius to reply and say he's aware of upcoming migration

13:37 schestowitz-TR; and for kaniini to recover and progress so we can take the prototype live and test in rudimentary form

13:37 schestowitz-TR; as news.tuxmachines.org

13:37 schestowitz-TR; migrating post 27/6/22 content is not a big task, I already know how I'd do it

13:37 schestowitz-TR; before reverting back to older DB state

13:37 schestowitz-TR; db has been holding up now for nearly 48 hours

13:37 schestowitz-TR; without intervention

13:40 Techrights-sec; we (or at least I) will need much more input from Marius and Rianne about

13:40 Techrights-sec; how well the mockup is approximating a work flow which they can use

13:40 Techrights-sec; recall it is still a sketch

13:40 Techrights-sec; ok

13:40 Techrights-sec; an edit / update capacity is still needed

13:40 Techrights-sec; that part, yyyy/mm/dd/title, is stored in the database and thus re-useable

13:40 Techrights-sec; and retrievable as long as the database is around

13:43 schestowitz-TR; rianne has had a go on my machine

13:43 schestowitz-TR; she is comfortable with nano, owing to her job

13:43 schestowitz-TR; marius is very technical

13:43 schestowitz-TR; even if older pages cannot be updates to fit a new scheme or schema (DB)

13:43 schestowitz-TR; they are static and the site moves ahead very fast

13:43 schestowitz-TR; so only important thing is consistent filing structure like yy/mm//dd-title

13:43 schestowitz-TR; so that URLs won't break in the future

13:43 schestowitz-TR; post-migration

13:43 schestowitz-TR; edit function can be added a lot later

13:43 schestowitz-TR; but once we change url for site and rss feeds it needs to "go strong"

13:43 schestowitz-TR; which, imho, given that it's just a bunch of html files,

13:43 schestowitz-TR; should not be hard to assure

13:43 schestowitz-TR; provided the rss builder can deal witgh edge cases ok

13:43 schestowitz-TR; do you want me to start adding all new nodes to the test we have and see how it's simulated?

13:43 schestowitz-TR; it would not be a lot of extra work

13:43 schestowitz-TR; also, rss WITHOUT full text IS very adequate is pages take <1 secong to load anyway

13:44 Techrights-sec; the RSS feed is built from the database or at least should be

13:44 Techrights-sec; yes adding some nodes for a few days would be great, it doesn't have to be all

13:44 Techrights-sec; of them just at least a few each day for a few days so we start to see where

13:44 Techrights-sec; the rough edges are

13:45 schestowitz-TR; later today I will hook up rianne over ssh

13:45 schestowitz-TR; from her machine

13:45 schestowitz-TR; so she too can test

13:45 schestowitz-TR; with my account, shared

13:46 schestowitz-TR; so you don't need to adduser/useradd

13:58 Techrights-sec; ok that's fine, but in a more polished test later we should have

13:58 Techrights-sec; separate accounts so that the author / editor can be looked up based

13:58 Techrights-sec; on the login, or at least the default can be looked up even if it

13:58 Techrights-sec; ends up being overridden

13:58 Techrights-sec; but it'll be good to look at the mockup

13:59 schestowitz-TR; what is "description" used for?

13:59 schestowitz-TR; another question: can title support for punctuation like slash or question marks be added?


2 PM, July 15

14:00 schestowitz-TR; Description is used in the RSS feeds and may or may not be used in the seach

14:00 schestowitz-TR; engines' results.

14:00 schestowitz-TR; I think the punction bug has been fixed for the title, at least if it

14:00 Techrights-sec; Description is used in the RSS feeds and may or may not be used in the seach

14:00 Techrights-sec; engines' results.

14:00 Techrights-sec; I think the punction bug has been fixed for the title, at least if it

14:00 Techrights-sec; is entered interactively instead of as a command line option

14:00 Techrights-sec; the slashes may be a problem but can be escaped for the slug / file name

14:00 schestowitz-TR; is entered interactively instead of as a command line option

14:00 schestowitz-TR; the slashes may be a problem but can be escaped for the slug / file name

14:01 schestowitz-TR; yes, slash is what got me

14:01 schestowitz-TR; in interactive mode

14:01 schestowitz-TR; sure, rianne will have her own account, but on the test machine not worth the trouble

14:01 schestowitz-TR; I'\ve just added a note

14:01 schestowitz-TR; I guess it needs manual run for front page and rss refresh

14:06 Techrights-sec; ok I'll check the slash and other punctuation

14:06 Techrights-sec; the (manual) work flow is described in workflow.txt or some such file

14:06 Techrights-sec; on another system, with incron / inotify, some updates can be automated

14:06 Techrights-sec; the others will have to be scripted in with a wrapper or somethig

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14:10 schestowitz-TR; ok, I can see it in latest-news.html now

14:10 schestowitz-TR; great!

14:10 schestowitz-TR; and it is clickcable

14:11 schestowitz-TR; feed.xml is a feed without entries at the moment

14:11 schestowitz-TR; afteyr I ran all the commands in workflow todo list

14:11 Techrights-sec; excellent

14:15 Techrights-sec; I will check where feed.xml fits in

14:17 schestowitz-TR; one machine of rianne cannot reach another by ip or name

14:17 schestowitz-TR; for barrier

14:17 schestowitz-TR; so I configured the router to assign (for that port number) this one machine

14:17 schestowitz-TR; and then she sets that up to connect to gemini.techrights.org

14:17 schestowitz-TR; and that works

14:17 schestowitz-TR; obv. a bug

14:17 schestowitz-TR; does not work with LOCAL/LAN redictions

14:17 schestowitz-TR; but external (DNS system) is a workaround

14:25 schestowitz-TR; Drought https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/drought-in-the-horn-of-africa-worst-in-40-years/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/drought-in-the-horn-of-africa-worst-in-40-years/

14:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Drought in the Horn of Africa: Worst in 40 Years - CounterPunch.org

14:26 schestowitz-TR; acts on the global water crisis, as provided by UNICEF..." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/water-water-no-longer-everywhere/ | Source: Counter Punch

↺ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/07/15/water-water-no-longer-everywhere/

14:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Water, Water, No Longer Everywhere - CounterPunch.org

14:33 Techrights-sec; drough exacerbates overpopulation and many more regions than one would

14:33 Techrights-sec; first think are overpopulated; it is carrying capacity which matters, nothing

14:33 Techrights-sec; else, especially not people per square km

14:34 schestowitz-TR; more kids as insurance policy -> more months to feed -> none can be nourished fully

14:34 schestowitz-TR; the nest dies

14:36 schestowitz-TR; in some animals it's in the genes of mom's insticts to abandon some of the offspring

14:36 schestowitz-TR; and focus

14:36 schestowitz-TR; on fewer or one for its survival

14:36 schestowitz-TR; pandas are among them

14:36 schestowitz-TR; but they leave behind the weak sometimes

14:36 schestowitz-TR; humans changes that with expectations that someone external will come to the rescue

14:36 schestowitz-TR; that might happen for a few

14:36 schestowitz-TR; but not when millions need the aid all at the same time

14:37 schestowitz-TR; "The APDFL.dll contains an out-of-bounds write"... DLL, I'm starting to think CISA goes out of its way NOT to name "Microsoft" and "Windows", i.e. the usual! https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-195-07

↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-195-07

14:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Siemens Datalogics File Parsing Vulnerability | CISA

14:37 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnove

14:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Excel Importer... Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-195-06

↺ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-195-06

14:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Siemens Mendix Excel Importer | CISA

14:40 Techrights-sec; ack

14:40 Techrights-sec; there is also a lot of churnalsim about log4j still, primarily as a means

14:40 Techrights-sec; of distracting the administration and officials from M$

14:42 schestowitz-TR; I sae some yesterday in rss feeds

14:42 schestowitz-TR; it had been patched before it was even known to the public

14:42 schestowitz-TR; unlike all those actively-exploited microsoft zero-days

14:42 schestowitz-TR; journalism is becoming a weaselword like "truthers"

14:42 schestowitz-TR; apropos, see what I wrote re spamnil in TR

14:42 schestowitz-TR; this morning

14:46 Techrights-sec; yes, sadly so

14:46 Techrights-sec; as mentioned before nicknames of any kind need to be tied in the text to

14:46 Techrights-sec; the actual name. there are a lot of reasons to to that and it reduces the

14:46 Techrights-sec; efficacy of the post when the real name is missing

14:51 Techrights-sec; tarnishing the brand may be the intended goal of the LF at this poiint

14:51 schestowitz-TR; i said a lot to that effect in irc today

14:51 schestowitz-TR; because the evidence is compelling and additive

14:52 schestowitz-TR; > TechCrunch takes money from TWO Microsoft proxies to spread FUD ("Sponsored post: The current and future state of open source security: research from Snyk and the Linux Foundation"). Microsoft now claim to speak for "Linux" and for "Open Source"...

14:52 schestowitz-TR; Clickfraud LF: we raise money from Microsoft to Spam the Web with Microsoft talking points, under the name "Linux"

14:55 schestowitz-TR; Snyk is the 'new' Black Duck in some partial ways

14:55 schestowitz-TR; Skyk=IDF intelligence

14:55 schestowitz-TR; Dough Levin has moved on to lobbying for Microsoft

14:55 schestowitz-TR; having worked for Microsoft

14:55 schestowitz-TR; and then make, sold Black Duck

14:55 schestowitz-TR; Then there's shit like DuckDuckGo

14:55 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft operates through proxy

14:55 schestowitz-TR; OSI, LF..

14:55 schestowitz-TR; SFC seems to be dissenting atm, several times in weeks

14:56 schestowitz-TR; which is good

14:56 schestowitz-TR; or maybe that's just 'lunduke syndrome'

14:56 schestowitz-TR; playing both sides to negotiate future prices

14:56 schestowitz-TR; like Mozilla playing hard to get by filrting with YahooSoft

14:56 schestowitz-TR; so Gulag gives a bigger sum later


3 PM, July 15

15:01 Techrights-sec; perhaps SFC is just playing both sides, they haven't been dependable for a long

15:01 Techrights-sec; time so they have a lot of effort remaining if they wish to fix that

15:01 Techrights-sec; a few one-off posts, no matter how good, are not the same as consistency over

15:01 Techrights-sec; time

15:02 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft were having a go at them

15:02 schestowitz-TR; over the github action

15:02 schestowitz-TR; so I became even more sympathetic

15:07 Techrights-sec; their move to encourage people to avoid the dangers of GitHub is important

15:07 Techrights-sec; and should be supported, but again a few one-off posts are not the same

15:07 Techrights-sec; as consistency over a long period of time

15:07 Techrights-sec; and they have a lot to make up for

15:09 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Litigation but on what issues? Not even a word about EPO corruption from EFF yet. And a TON of posts about EU copyright policies. Why?? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/impact-litigation-action-building-caselaw-behind-win-free-speech | Source: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/07/impact-litigation-action-building-caselaw-behind-win-free-speech

15:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | Impact Litigation in Action: Building the Caselaw Behind a Win for Free Speech | Electronic Frontier Foundation

15:11 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Today's EFF fights for EFF coffers. Not for members' interests, except perceived (i.e. optics). They don't bite the hands that feed, e.g. Gulag and Mark Cuban (oligarch). They actively fight FOR the rich these days. Sometimes.

15:17 schestowitz-TR; todo: titles with ":"

15:17 schestowitz-TR; cause slug generation to throw an error

15:17 schestowitz-TR; i added a tor news test

15:17 Techrights-sec; ack

15:23 Techrights-sec; ack

15:23 Techrights-sec; just checked, titles can have slashes, colons, and question marks

15:23 Techrights-sec; the slugs cannot, for the slugs those get swapped out with underscores

15:23 Techrights-sec; though perhaps the colons and question marks can stay

15:23 Techrights-sec; the slashes are not permitted in file names or directory names anyway

15:24 schestowitz-TR; yes, it goes on ok until it tries to make a slug

15:24 schestowitz-TR; for now I scribble something into description

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15:44 schestowitz-TR; wordpress has some code, probably php, that derives slugs from titles

15:44 schestowitz-TR; and deals with weird-ish latin chars and converts various symbols to FS-compatible strings

15:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe if the slug part throws an error

15:44 schestowitz-TR; it can just say enter the plug manutally

15:45 schestowitz-TR; the nice thing is, even if the DB goes down, offline, defunct, vanishes, the site will still serve

15:45 schestowitz-TR; pages OK

15:52 Techrights-sec; Ok, tracking it down. It goes into the database nicely. Now I have to check

15:52 Techrights-sec; the other script.

15:52 Techrights-sec; Yes, static pages are /very/ robust

15:52 Techrights-sec; Seems to generate the file using the slug and puts the link in latest-news.html

15:52 Techrights-sec; but the feed.xml generator needs some futher work

15:52 Techrights-sec; almost, still some bugs ... checking ...

15:52 schestowitz-TR; I will add some more entries to tas with more stuff and touch edge cases

15:52 schestowitz-TR; most of the readers are rss digestors

15:55 Techrights-sec; The bug is with Apache2, the ? will have to be escaped in the links ...

15:57 schestowitz-TR; i think it is close to ready provided there are working links in rss feeds

15:57 schestowitz-TR; data entry seems to work OK

15:57 schestowitz-TR; but the target machine/container is not ready yet

15:57 schestowitz-TR; might be useful to have a list of deps for siatuins like D-R

15:58 Techrights-sec; The bug is with Apache2, the ? will have to be escaped in the links ...

15:58 Techrights-sec; long way from ready but the time is right for more detailed tests

15:58 schestowitz-TR; i meant ready to deploy on the machine

15:58 schestowitz-TR; but not yet to direct traffic to it


4 PM, July 15

16:13 Techrights-sec; no it is long from deploymen, maybe a month or two

16:14 schestowitz-TR; in a month or two we can have 2000 posts to migrate but that is doable

16:14 schestowitz-TR; migrated from old to new to ensure no urls break

16:15 Techrights-sec; it's not ready now and it's not ready in the foreseeable future

16:15 Techrights-sec; but it is progressing

16:18 Techrights-sec; btw hotlinking is not just a fauxpax but dangerous, even to the Tor project

16:18 Techrights-sec; I'll have to add a check to choke when it is found

16:18 Techrights-sec; storing locally is fine but that's the same as uploading any other image

16:18 Techrights-sec; btw hotlinking is not just a fauxpax but dangerous, even to the Tor project

16:18 Techrights-sec; I'll have to add a check to choke when it is found

16:18 Techrights-sec; storing locally is fine but that's the same as uploading any other image

16:18 schestowitz-TR; one easy fix it,

16:18 schestowitz-TR; *is

16:18 schestowitz-TR; since it's always one url

16:18 schestowitz-TR; take the url as an input

16:18 schestowitz-TR; like image for post

16:18 schestowitz-TR; then wget it, stgore locally

16:18 schestowitz-TR; it can be fair use if the image is assopciate with the page we send a lot of traffic to

16:23 Techrights-sec; there are several hotlinked images

16:23 Techrights-sec; fair use is not the risk with hotlinking. there is the matter of lost or missing

16:23 Techrights-sec; images or mischief, especially the latter;

16:23 Techrights-sec; I can add in a check to prevent hotlinking so it does not happen accidentally later

16:23 Techrights-sec; I'm wondering what kind of work flow to use for the update. I guess the

16:23 Techrights-sec; script should accept eithe the verbatim title or the path to the HTML file

16:23 Techrights-sec; and then use that to look up the record based on the title; Though title

16:23 Techrights-sec; is not necessarily unique

16:23 Techrights-sec; yes

16:23 Techrights-sec; so maybe path XOR title+date?

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16:23 schestowitz-TR; titles are not unique, e.g. "Android leftovers"

16:23 Techrights-sec; or would there be multple duplicates of the title on a single date?

16:25 Techrights-sec; right now the database uses slug+date as a unique key

16:28 schestowitz-TR; Once again! A week passes and the UK regime of Borisnaro fails to release the weekly report as scheduled for every Thurssay. Is COVID-19 data too being 'ousted' with the psychopath? https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022

↺ https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/weekly-all-cause-mortality-surveillance-2021-to-2022

16:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Weekly all-cause mortality surveillance: 2021 to 2022 - GOV.UK

16:29 schestowitz-TR; going to take a nap

16:29 schestowitz-TR; I have shift at 1am

16:29 schestowitz-TR; back in an hour

16:29 schestowitz-TR; news is now slow, but MEANINGFUL news is barely existent today

16:29 schestowitz-TR; and I can catch up sat+sun

16:29 schestowitz-TR; when adding nodes i will also add to the test server

16:29 schestowitz-TR; and report any issues I stumble upon

16:29 Techrights-sec; ack

16:29 Techrights-sec; thanks! adding nodes helps find where to tune it


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18:45 schestowitz-TR; back

18:46 Techrights-sec; ok got some improvements done in two of the scripts and have started thinking

18:46 Techrights-sec; out a way to implement the update / editing

18:46 schestowitz-TR; excellent

18:52 Techrights-sec; removed an external dependecy (xmlstarlet) while I was in there

18:52 Techrights-sec; for a one-off action it was ok but once multiple activities require XPaths

18:52 Techrights-sec; it is easier to use the module for it


7 PM, July 15

19:07 schestowitz-TR; just added a node

19:07 schestowitz-TR; I can see it added

19:08 Techrights-sec; excellent

19:08 Techrights-sec; I still need to figure out how to visualize the navigational aspects

19:08 Techrights-sec; the modified feed just above the footer is good for recent material

19:08 Techrights-sec; but we need a way for crawlers to walk all the way back to the first post

19:08 Techrights-sec; or the most recent post, either direction, from any arbitrary entrance

19:08 Techrights-sec; If the RSS needs adjustment, it is still early in the decision process.

19:09 Techrights-sec; I don't have a wide range of screens to test it on. In this day and age

19:09 Techrights-sec; a mobile devilce, ideally a "smart"phone, should be used in the

19:09 Techrights-sec; design of the layout.

19:09 schestowitz-TR; you can make the windows more narroq

19:09 schestowitz-TR; many users on "phones" are using chrome

19:11 Techrights-sec;

19:11 Techrights-sec; yes

19:11 Techrights-sec; I've been using Chromium for it lately, hopefully that is close enough since

19:11 Techrights-sec; I won't touch Chrome. The layout seems ok for a narrow screen but the right

19:11 Techrights-sec; most column doesn't drop down to become another footer even when the screen

19:11 Techrights-sec; is too narrow to render it properly. I've forgotten how to do that and will

19:11 Techrights-sec; have to look it up, again.

19:11 schestowitz-TR; the mobile-friendly version of Techrights front page has it in the inline css

19:12 schestowitz-TR; which you wrote

19:12 Techrights-sec; I'll look there, too.

19:21 schestowitz-TR; larabel again downplaying secure boot, pluton etc.

19:21 schestowitz-TR; but then again I broke up with him aleady

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19:35 Techrights-sec; it's too bad larabel is apologizing for that, he is already reducing his

19:35 Techrights-sec; future income that direction

19:36 schestowitz-TR; oh, cool, now it cautioned me to remove hotlinking stuff

19:36 schestowitz-TR; I did upon demand and it registered

19:36 schestowitz-TR; re larabel, I saw many comments on that post

19:36 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure what audience he aims for

19:36 schestowitz-TR; but sjvn is losing many fans, fast

19:36 schestowitz-TR; they aim to appease imaginaries (trolls)

19:36 schestowitz-TR; to his credit, gardiner has just blaster microsoft for it in a new video

19:36 schestowitz-TR; I did not click

19:37 schestowitz-TR; seems like the slant is,

19:37 schestowitz-TR; microbell is trying to defend his 'boss' (AMD) with the pluton crap

19:37 schestowitz-TR; and say, look, it works!

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19:39 Techrights-sec; unfortunately so. it reduces his credibility further

19:40 schestowitz-TR; like with ooxml and uefi in 2014

19:40 schestowitz-TR; "look, regulators, nothiing to see here, it's fine... look at Gulag instead"

19:46 Techrights-sec; yep


8 PM, July 15

20:13 schestowitz-TR; I added two more nodes

20:13 schestowitz-TR; all worked perfectly

20:13 schestowitz-TR; and I think I did all "types" of alyouts

20:13 schestowitz-TR; there are half a dozen "styles"

20:13 schestowitz-TR; the rss feed generated is empty

20:13 schestowitz-TR; at one point we can have a public "beta"

20:15 Techrights-sec; excellent

20:15 Techrights-sec; working with CSS atm, but no progress with it

20:15 Techrights-sec; it's working well but the script(s) are slightly buggy in that they

20:15 Techrights-sec; insert multiple <body> elements somehow

20:15 Techrights-sec; I have to figure out how thats happening

20:16 schestowitz-TR; at the "beta" stage having working rss is not crucial

20:16 schestowitz-TR; this is the first cms change in almost 20 years

20:16 schestowitz-TR; dries is ocvver 40 already

20:16 schestowitz-TR; (I saw the CSS changes btw, the current site always had small fonts, dating back to 2004 when 800px screens were still common... same for Techrightd layout in wordpres)

20:18 Techrights-sec; fixed the feed.xml

20:18 Techrights-sec; noproblem, just point out that it is currently a mockup, possibly one of many

20:18 schestowitz-TR; mind if I do a video later showing on the screen some of the prototype?

20:18 schestowitz-TR; in the future it might be interesting to look back

20:18 schestowitz-TR; yeah, exploratory

20:19 Techrights-sec; I'm going to give the CSS a rest for now


10 PM, July 15

22:03 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/edropple/status/1547933242216419330#m

↺ https://nitter.it/edropple/status/1547933242216419330#m

22:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Ed (@edropple): "I hadn't thought about the techrights guy for literally a decade. I assumed he'd just gone to a troll farm upstate. But he's--he's still going--"|nitter.it

22:03 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/Leigh__420/status/1547854974305964033#m

↺ https://nitter.it/Leigh__420/status/1547854974305964033#m

22:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Leigh420 (@Leigh__420): "OK Dump Duck really Bling! Now To move on da #Brave ship! http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/"|nitter.it

http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/"|nitter.it

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