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04:24 schestowitz-TR; just fyi
04:24 schestowitz-TR; last night bee-tea updated the firmware
04:24 schestowitz-TR; I rarely check if they do this
04:24 schestowitz-TR; unless I have something critical
04:24 schestowitz-TR; so anyway, 3:15am they rebooted it again
04:24 schestowitz-TR; IP address changed
04:24 schestowitz-TR; thankfully I was awake and quickly changed dns
04:24 schestowitz-TR; I am going to mess around with obs shortly
04:24 schestowitz-TR; it is VERY impressive
04:25 Techrights-sec; nice
04:25 Techrights-sec; I hear good things all around about OBS but have not looked at a it
04:25 schestowitz-TR; I have a few topic ideas to cover
04:25 schestowitz-TR; but they are not great
04:25 schestowitz-TR; some ae lf-related
04:25 schestowitz-TR; I leave patents aside for a moment
04:25 schestowitz-TR; do you have a topic in mind?
04:25 schestowitz-TR; I've just cleaned rss for "main" feeds
04:26 Techrights-sec; NDAs were mentioned in the IRC logs, they are pribably at least as harmful
04:26 Techrights-sec; as patents and far more insidious
04:26 schestowitz-TR; yes, sadly trade secrets and NDAs are not a legal area I feel comfortable to comment on
04:26 schestowitz-TR; would rather pass tbh
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04:29 Techrights-sec; ok
04:29 Techrights-sec; I figure those and the nondisparagement clauses in termination contracts
04:29 Techrights-sec; are covering billions if not trillions of dollars in damage by hiding corporate
04:29 Techrights-sec; misdeeds.
04:30 schestowitz-TR; you have just given me topic idea
04:30 schestowitz-TR; btw, zemlin seems to be doing some pr campaign for himself
04:30 schestowitz-TR; rianne notified me
04:30 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot comment on it
04:30 schestowitz-TR; as he piggybacks a toddler with severe disabilities
04:30 schestowitz-TR; so it's too toxic to even comment on
04:31 Techrights-sec; yes but I have not followed his antics lately
04:31 Techrights-sec; yes that's the game the microsofters play
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05:28 schestowitz-TR; ota
05:28 schestowitz-TR; dfraft
05:34 Techrights-sec; ack
05:34 Techrights-sec; a few words in the first paragraph about the nature of the FUD would help
05:34 Techrights-sec; https://www.nngroup.com/articles/inverted-pyramid/
05:34 Techrights-sec; https://ohiostate.pressbooks.pub/stratcommwriting/chapter/inverted-pyramid-style/
05:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.nngroup.com | Inverted Pyramid: Writing for Comprehension
05:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ohiostate.pressbooks.pub | Inverted pyramid style Writing for Strategic Communication Industries
05:34 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I added some words and links
05:35 Techrights-sec; np
05:37 Techrights-sec; maybe, to refine it further,
05:37 Techrights-sec; s/tends to be mentioned in dark/tends to only be mentioned in dark/
05:38 schestowitz-TR; I think that would be untrue though
05:38 schestowitz-TR; it's not exclusive a trend
05:38 Techrights-sec; ah, ok
05:38 Techrights-sec; It is, however, a predominant trend
05:42 schestowitz-TR; hang on
05:42 schestowitz-TR; I shall expand
05:42 schestowitz-TR; ok, see now
05:50 Techrights-sec; "too often" rather than "only" ?
05:50 Techrights-sec; checking
05:50 Techrights-sec; s/its not going to improve/its not going to improve for the forseeable future/
05:50 Techrights-sec; ?
05:50 Techrights-sec; ^forseeable
05:50 schestowitz-TR; check out the latest post from LFossFarce
05:51 Techrights-sec; ok
05:51 Techrights-sec; https://fossforce.com/2022/04/dirk-hohndel-linux-linus-licenses-and-the-business-of-open-source/
05:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fossforce.com | Dirk Hohndel: Linux, Linus, and the Business of Open Source - FOSS Force
05:51 schestowitz-TR; we have spamnil #2
05:52 Techrights-sec; :(
05:52 schestowitz-TR; yes
05:53 schestowitz-TR; money talks
05:53 schestowitz-TR; some people talk for mney
05:53 schestowitz-TR; she did ibm/redhat through some media contractor last year
05:53 schestowitz-TR; many puff pieces
05:53 schestowitz-TR; not the money is LF
05:53 schestowitz-TR; Not just the pieces
05:53 schestowitz-TR; also the site
05:53 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if she removed past articles about LF
05:53 schestowitz-TR; or will
05:53 Techrights-sec; say-for-pay
05:53 Techrights-sec; It would be interesting to know what leverge they gain to get people to sell out
05:55 schestowitz-TR; we used to cover cases. real concrete examples,
05:55 schestowitz-TR; of sites that blast gates, his foundation and microsoft
05:55 schestowitz-TR; he then bribes them
05:55 schestowitz-TR; and they take down the criticism
05:55 schestowitz-TR; I think LF is another foundstion of this kind
05:55 schestowitz-TR; at the very least they muzzle their critics
05:55 schestowitz-TR; and zemlin is now "protecting children"
05:55 schestowitz-TR; so I'd better say nothing
05:55 Techrights-sec; there's often a carrot and a stick not just a carrot
05:55 Techrights-sec; perhaps. for the time being.
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08:46 schestowitz-TR; LOL "Unicorn Media"
08:46 schestowitz-TR; Is that what fossforce is going under?
08:49 Techrights-sec; perhaps; gambling / speculation on random sites in hopes of a big payoff at the IPO?
08:50 schestowitz-TR; do you want me to copy the latest proxy code? I see you made further changes
08:52 Techrights-sec; yes, probably a good idea
08:52 Techrights-sec; that one has been tested locally
08:53 Techrights-sec; the one in GIt, that is
09:09 schestowitz-TR; done
09:09 schestowitz-TR; green
09:09 schestowitz-TR; testing manually
09:16 schestowitz-TR; this afternoon we shop for food
09:16 schestowitz-TR; not sure if you noticed in irc, but leah is like us in that regard
09:16 schestowitz-TR; 'stealing' the discounts
09:16 schestowitz-TR; here, they can be like 90% off or more if you are lucky
09:19 schestowitz-TR; food is one of those things, along with water, you cannot import to dodge high pricing locally
09:19 schestowitz-TR; so that imposes more threat of monopoly or oligopoly abuse
09:19 schestowitz-TR; iow, price-fixing
09:19 schestowitz-TR; there are other words for it
09:20 schestowitz-TR; happiest country on the planet, not polling in the local supermarkets ;-)
09:22 schestowitz-TR; -
09:22 schestowitz-TR; Lxer had a 3-day downtime recently and it acts like it is run by somehow careful
09:22 schestowitz-TR; or is desperate due to media deserts
09:22 schestowitz-TR; a lot of links they post they are not 'supposed' to post
09:22 schestowitz-TR; and they will put off real gnu/linux neophiles or users
09:24 schestowitz-TR; I will NOT do videos about such sites becauise I assume no ill intent
09:24 schestowitz-TR; there, the isue is different
09:24 schestowitz-TR; but I think in a hurried rush to post anything
09:24 schestowitz-TR; even webspam from linux.com
09:24 schestowitz-TR; they only dig their own grave,
09:24 schestowitz-TR; accelerating their demise
09:24 schestowitz-TR; like our stupid company thinkintg that making compromises
09:24 schestowitz-TR; would keep us around lonmger
09:24 schestowitz-TR; while in reality driving awaysome geeks
09:42 Techrights-sec; as for driving people away; A-players hire A-players; B-playes hire C-players and worse, driving away the talent
09:42 Techrights-sec; comprimises often mean appeasementg instead, and appeasment always fails sooner
09:42 Techrights-sec; or later
09:42 Techrights-sec; usually sooner
09:42 Techrights-sec; there are several insterests that gain from the demise of Linux.com
09:42 Techrights-sec; and OpenSource.com
09:42 Techrights-sec; THose sites could serve as beacons but are intentionally prevented frmm
09:42 Techrights-sec; anything benefiial like that
09:42 Techrights-sec; Speaking of Freedom, is RMS talk online anywhere? The TR video seems
09:42 Techrights-sec; broken. I tried to listen to it in VLC but it started looping after a while
09:44 schestowitz-TR; if you mean the audio started looping, that's the fault of the streamer
09:44 schestowitz-TR; their playback thing got stuck like a broken record during the ted talk
09:44 schestowitz-TR; also, the talk became audio-only
09:44 schestowitz-TR; which does not make free software seem too good
09:44 schestowitz-TR; although I suspect the culprit was RMS and his connection
09:47 Techrights-sec; It's the problem that people go out of their way to make things complex
09:47 Techrights-sec; and furthermore refractoring is not valued in either business or popular culture
09:47 Techrights-sec; If it compiles, throw it over the fence and run away.
09:50 schestowitz-TR; afaik, figosdev dumped the webm to a local file
09:50 schestowitz-TR; and I recorded from my end
09:50 schestowitz-TR; if you use another media player, you will mostly see irc channels and get the voice
09:50 schestowitz-TR; nothing missed as rms turned off his cameras after 1 min of technical difficulties
09:50 schestowitz-TR; from what I saw yesterday, as per bnchs iirc (in IRC), fsf has since then locked down access to IRC
09:50 schestowitz-TR; IOW, this stream attracted a platoon of prolonged disruption
09:52 Techrights-sec; I tried to listen to it in VLC but it started looping after a while
09:52 Techrights-sec; I haven
09:52 Techrights-sec; I haven't looked at streaming video for a very logn time and don't know
09:52 Techrights-sec; how that might have been set up. It would make sense for the distribution
09:52 Techrights-sec; of the streams go go from another node and not RMS himself but there are
09:52 Techrights-sec; so many very stupid decisions being made in software development these days
09:52 Techrights-sec; that it might have been the case that the bottleneck was his connection.
09:52 Techrights-sec; It's the problem that people go out of their way to make things complex
09:52 Techrights-sec; and furthermore refractoring is not valued in either business or popular culture
09:52 Techrights-sec; If it compiles, throw it over the fence and run away.
09:52 Techrights-sec; yes software freedom and especially its successful proponents are in the sights
09:52 Techrights-sec; of teams of astroturfers paid for by interestes aligned with M$ if not M$ itselfFSF and others are not willing to acknowledge that
09:52 Techrights-sec; reality and appear to
09:52 Techrights-sec; accept astroturfers as grassroots.
09:54 schestowitz-TR; bot ok, let me put it like this
09:54 schestowitz-TR; 1) fsf would have little use for this file
09:54 schestowitz-TR; as if cointains no video
09:54 schestowitz-TR; and RMS was struggling to understand what the questions were about
09:54 schestowitz-TR; I stopped after the first one
09:54 schestowitz-TR; 2) even if I got the raw file from fig/matey, same problem as (1)
09:54 schestowitz-TR; not to brag, but at least in our version you have something to look at like 2 IRC networks
09:54 schestowitz-TR; I tried not to talk much
09:54 schestowitz-TR; except when I could not resist or when there were technical issues
09:54 schestowitz-TR; it's perfecctly possible this talk will never be published
09:54 schestowitz-TR; not officially anyway
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09:57 Techrights-sec; I wonder if the webm at TR can be salvaged then.
09:59 schestowitz-TR; as I said, the file generally works
09:59 schestowitz-TR; I only started noticjing issues in vlc, and vlc alone, about 2 weeks ago
09:59 schestowitz-TR; and after checking files produced on a DIFFERENT machine,
09:59 schestowitz-TR; I saw the same issue in VLC
09:59 schestowitz-TR; so I don't think it's due to the recording software
09:59 schestowitz-TR; post-processing it is fine
09:59 schestowitz-TR; webcamoid is not the same version on both machines
09:59 schestowitz-TR; so I suspect vlc is at fault
10:08 Techrights-sec; ok I will look in Audacity
10:08 Techrights-sec; ^Listen
10:13 schestowitz-TR; IME, any media player that does video works OK with it
10:13 schestowitz-TR; I got miffed if not upset a few times
10:13 schestowitz-TR; seeing that the video got stuck
10:13 schestowitz-TR; then I tried a different media player
10:13 schestowitz-TR; I spent 1 hour yesterday trying to 'fix' webcomoid
10:13 schestowitz-TR; my conclusion is, neon updates the kernel
10:13 schestowitz-TR; a lot
10:13 schestowitz-TR; not like point releases
10:13 schestowitz-TR; so they may have broken noisetorch
10:13 schestowitz-TR; after the reboot last week
10:13 schestowitz-TR; either way, I organised things around here
10:13 schestowitz-TR; and studies obs basicsa
10:13 schestowitz-TR; so I suspect videos will be recorded mostly on that machined
10:13 schestowitz-TR; soon I might extend the shell script for videosi might even make it go faster
10:13 schestowitz-TR; webm/ogg do no support "copy" operation in or from the proiprietyary formats
10:13 schestowitz-TR; in ffmpeg
10:13 schestowitz-TR; and the conversions are a bit lossy
10:13 schestowitz-TR; a 'round-trip' would not give the same quality
10:13 schestowitz-TR; maybe same file size, not qua<lity
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10:17 Techrights-sec; proprietary formats should never be written
10:17 Techrights-sec; enough is lost when reading them and
10:17 Techrights-sec; even if not converting much
10:22 schestowitz-TR; i want to read out to you what format the "open" OBS supports for output:
10:22 schestowitz-TR; mkv - default
10:22 schestowitz-TR; flv
10:22 schestowitz-TR; mp4
10:22 schestowitz-TR; mov
10:22 schestowitz-TR; ts
10:22 schestowitz-TR; m3u8
10:22 schestowitz-TR; i do not even know the last two
10:22 Techrights-sec; ack
10:22 Techrights-sec; It's a variant of MPEG / MP3
10:27 schestowitz-TR; OK
10:27 schestowitz-TR; rianne is now posting in tuxmachines
10:27 schestowitz-TR; then I will post Daily Links and look into improving voice quality
10:27 schestowitz-TR; there are lots of things to tinker with there
10:27 schestowitz-TR; failing that, maybe external mic
10:27 schestowitz-TR; on the machine 'vonick' I could get voice to the point of being
10:27 schestowitz-TR; relatively clean with noisetorchj
10:37 Techrights-sec; In the RMS video, your voice and the stream are mushed into the same channel
10:37 Techrights-sec; rather than separate channels. It would be so much better to have them
10:37 Techrights-sec; separate
10:37 Techrights-sec;
10:38 schestowitz-TR; i am not adding more 'schenes'
10:38 schestowitz-TR; with effects when I shift from one to another
10:38 schestowitz-TR; like moving between 2cams+deskto
10:38 schestowitz-TR; to just face
10:38 schestowitz-TR; or just desktop
10:38 schestowitz-TR; I can add text, images etc.
10:38 schestowitz-TR; re rms, had I used obs, the sound would come directly from the output
10:38 schestowitz-TR; no headphone involved
10:38 schestowitz-TR; and there would be channels
10:38 schestowitz-TR; but it's too late now
10:39 Techrights-sec; it's a learning process
10:39 schestowitz-TR; "IT's TOO LATE!!" -RMS
10:39 Techrights-sec; also a lot of typing is heard on your side in the audio
10:39 Techrights-sec; does it have push-to-talk?
10:40 schestowitz-TR; maybe
10:40 schestowitz-TR; it has many hundreds of knobs and menu items
10:40 schestowitz-TR; I've only scratched the surfave
10:40 schestowitz-TR; I know webcamoid very well
10:40 schestowitz-TR; and would still use it
10:40 schestowitz-TR; but obs is a whole different league
11:10 schestowitz-TR; ok, as of this morning I am off work till monday afternoon
11:10 schestowitz-TR; as I said, errands later
11:10 schestowitz-TR; but this coming weekend will be productive
11:10 schestowitz-TR; prioovided no major technical blunders
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11:28 Techrights-sec; excellent
11:28 Techrights-sec; though I expect that news will be even more quiet than it has been
11:28 schestowitz-TR; that's good
11:28 schestowitz-TR; I hope it will slow down
11:28 schestowitz-TR; at least to let me catch up with 400 or so patent items I wish to go through
11:28 schestowitz-TR; I dumped gulag alerts
11:28 schestowitz-TR; it was very poor s/n ratio anyway
11:28 schestowitz-TR; but so is the web
11:28 schestowitz-TR; GiGI
11:28 schestowitz-TR; GIGO
11:28 schestowitz-TR; Garbage in, Gulag Out
11:30 Techrights-sec; yep
11:30 Techrights-sec; The good part is that there are some more RSS feeds than there were before
11:30 Techrights-sec; but only a few and it dooes take a LOT of time to go through those anyway
11:30 Techrights-sec; The updater does not rely on the network functioning :/
11:30 schestowitz-TR; I have just spent a long time going througn our caposule
11:30 schestowitz-TR; mostly to stady the daily links
11:30 schestowitz-TR; the success ratio for the updater improved
11:30 schestowitz-TR; and we have very extensive sets of daily links
11:30 schestowitz-TR; with headings for 'bookmarks' in the traditional snese
11:30 schestowitz-TR; at least for clients that support these
11:50 schestowitz-TR; --
11:51 schestowitz-TR; ota
11:51 schestowitz-TR; when I start doing transititons (animations) and hogh framerate cameras and stuff like music
11:51 schestowitz-TR; it seems like compression goes off the chart and back to similar file sizes as
11:51 schestowitz-TR; webcamoid generates
11:51 schestowitz-TR; I will try to learn how to play "nice" with the compression, like little
11:51 schestowitz-TR; optical flow, so to speak
11:51 schestowitz-TR; that's the algorithm typically used, with artifacts seen when the signal goes
11:51 schestowitz-TR; "off"
11:51 schestowitz-TR; so a lot of upcoming videos will be a tad experimental
11:51 schestowitz-TR; unless I record on the "old" machine
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12:43 schestowitz-TR; i am typing some draft up
12:43 schestowitz-TR; i wanted to know
12:43 schestowitz-TR; are you trying to produce something from this recording?
12:43 schestowitz-TR; draft
12:43 Techrights-sec; ack
12:43 Techrights-sec; ack
12:43 Techrights-sec; no, just wanted to listen to the recording
13:09 schestowitz-TR; hold yo' guns
13:09 schestowitz-TR; FSF has uploaded the talk
13:09 schestowitz-TR; will share now
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13:41 Techrights-sec; thanks
13:41 Techrights-sec; severe compression artefacts in the audio
13:41 Techrights-sec; seems to be a concessin speech, withdrawing and conceding to the growth
13:41 Techrights-sec; of non-free rather than reaching out to the /sources/ causing the use of
13:41 Techrights-sec; non-free software
13:41 schestowitz-TR; I am preparing humour for epo people
13:41 schestowitz-TR; re rms,, I did not interpret his speech as such at all
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14:33 Techrights-sec; he promotes backing up rather than advancing
14:33 Techrights-sec; the examples need to be better suited to long term strategic planning
14:36 schestowitz-TR; what you insinuates, I think
14:36 schestowitz-TR; is a Winstonm moment
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or Stockholm syndrome
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or brainwash
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or coup
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or conditions imposed upon him
14:36 schestowitz-TR; or weakly-functioning mental faculties
14:36 schestowitz-TR; maybe you are right, but I did not sense that
14:36 schestowitz-TR; Remember that before the strat of this coup he literally wnt to
14:36 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft
14:36 schestowitz-TR; which I thought was very dump and counter-productyive
14:36 schestowitz-TR; also bad for morale
14:41 Techrights-sec; yes that was foolish on many levels incouding loss of credibility and damage
14:41 Techrights-sec; to general morale
14:41 Techrights-sec; However I fully expect that M$ planned for that when it extended the
14:41 Techrights-sec; "invitation"
14:42 schestowitz-TR; SJVN, colleague of Mary Jo Microsoft, weaponised this visit as much as she had done
14:43 Techrights-sec; Yes, above all it gave lots of ammo to his detractors.
14:45 schestowitz-TR; on the one hand RMS is a "pervet" and crazy
14:45 schestowitz-TR; and at the same time he is "reasonable"
14:45 schestowitz-TR; because he visited criminals who bribe officials and attack us
14:45 schestowitz-TR; and phone my boss
14:45 schestowitz-TR; and bribe
14:45 schestowitz-TR; so he's helluva lot more useful as fodder
14:45 schestowitz-TR; "whhy d you support RMS? IT IS PEDO!"
14:45 schestowitz-TR; "why can't you accept Micrtosoft? Even RMS made peace with them.."
14:46 Techrights-sec; the trolls play those themes
14:46 Techrights-sec; Or boss' boss
14:46 Techrights-sec; Except that those lies were cultivated in the defense of Bill who they
14:46 Techrights-sec; needed to distract from, and still do.
14:46 Techrights-sec; Notice all the yammering about the "insecurity" of FOSS tools but no mention
14:46 Techrights-sec; anywhere about Windows TCO in regards to malware, especially ransomware.
14:47 schestowitz-TR; vmware blames "linux" for sec issues
14:47 schestowitz-TR; after it violated GPL in Linux
14:47 schestowitz-TR; aand made shitty proprietary crap
14:47 schestowitz-TR; and Zemlin makes money from them
14:49 Techrights-sec; not necessarily. He could probably bring in more money by enforcing the GPL
14:49 Techrights-sec; and otherwise showing morals. NOtice that over the years the LF turned,
14:49 Techrights-sec; as others have put it, into a serial infringers' club. Also over the years,
14:49 Techrights-sec; the public has been turned against reciprocal licensing towards non-reciprocal
14:49 Techrights-sec; or, as some call it, push-over licensing. The latter cannot be ddual licensed
14:49 Techrights-sec; in any meaningful way and thus cuts the developers off from an important source of Funding.
14:53 schestowitz-TR; while I find this subject fascinating I am hesitent to do
14:53 schestowitz-TR; an article or videom about this
14:53 schestowitz-TR; as none of this is new
14:53 schestowitz-TR; or even a very unique insight
14:53 schestowitz-TR; but...
14:53 schestowitz-TR; our goal should be to make such truisms weidely understood
14:53 schestowitz-TR; FOSSForce won't do that!
14:54 Techrights-sec; ack
14:54 Techrights-sec; yes
14:55 schestowitz-TR; SJVN is very predictable
14:55 schestowitz-TR; IBM/Red Hat puff pieces
14:55 schestowitz-TR; Micreosoft apologism
14:55 schestowitz-TR; LOT Netowkr//OIn puff piece
14:55 schestowitz-TR; LF ad
14:55 schestowitz-TR; repeat step 1
14:55 schestowitz-TR; profit from the sponsors (i.e. the above )
14:55 Techrights-sec; his article in The Register was a lame recycled article
14:55 Techrights-sec; ack
14:59 schestowitz-TR; RMS: the four freeedoms are
14:59 schestowitz-TR; SJVN: RMS is a pedo, don't listen to him
14:59 schestowitz-TR; The four pillars are: swwpats: LF (not Linux), IBM, and Microsoft
14:59 schestowitz-TR; Spamnil's site, which I last saw 10 mins ago, has managed to become 100% spam
14:59 schestowitz-TR; I was gonna tell you but thought it was not newsworthy
14:59 schestowitz-TR; thankfully, nobody pays attention to this shit
15:00 schestowitz-TR; people would rather piff in the lake
15:00 schestowitz-TR; *piss
15:00 schestowitz-TR; Soon he will be cut off and let go like ERric Brown
15:00 schestowitz-TR; But for now he can do more damage
15:00 schestowitz-TR; Sheela and James will keep this demolition man
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I'll check again if Sheeela works directly for Microsoft already
15:00 schestowitz-TR; or not yet
15:00 schestowitz; Sheela Zemlin - Chief Revenue Officer (IPO on NYSE 2021)
15:00 schestowitz; "My expertise is in leading revenue-generating functions of an organization to extraordinary growth, creating the operational discipline to scale efficiently, building high-performing teams that last, and delivering results for internal and external customers. Have directly led revenue growth from $20MM to $50MM, from $80MM to $100MM and as a GM for $100MM+ businesses. Over my career, Ive taken on a diverse mix of responsibilities by design
15:00 schestowitz; in order to become a great, multi-disciplinary leader; Im an initiator, operator, coach and problem solver at the core. Id describe myself as a culture builder, bold, data-driven, collaborative, results oriented, transparent, strategic and hands-on."
15:01 schestowitz; https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/19085484
15:01 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
15:02 schestowitz; https://investors.bakkt.com/governance/board-of-directors/person-details/default.aspx?ItemId=ee4ad7b3-e3d5-4cb1-8ba1-55be8e91fdb1
15:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-investors.bakkt.com | Bakkt - Governance - Board of Directors - Person Details
15:02 schestowitz; "Sheela Zemlin has served as Bakkts Chief Revenue Officer since April 2021. Prior to joining Bakkt, Ms. Zemlin was the lead, client-facing partner for the emerging Fintech practice of and Chief Revenue Officer for PricewaterhouseCoopers New Ventures. Prior to this role, Ms. Zemlin was an Executive in Residence with PricewaterhouseCoopers New Ventures from 2017 to 2018. Before she joined PricewaterhouseCoopers, Ms. Zemlin was the General
15:02 schestowitz; Manager and Senior Vice President for TIBCO Software, where she managed a global team across sales and customer success for the SaaS business. Ms. Zemlin earned a degree in operations management from Michigan State University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. She also serves as a director for Digimarc Corporation and as an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School."
15:09 schestowitz; very money-centric
15:09 schestowitz; if zemlin ever did care about linux
15:09 schestowitz; the wife would lecture him about her "success" with Microsoft
15:10 schestowitz; https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS
15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=460503801&name=LINUX%20FOUNDATION&city=&state=&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS )
15:10 schestowitz; still nothing since 2018
15:11 Techrights-sec; ack
15:13 schestowitz-TR; should i doi a vid response to sjvn el reg?
15:13 Techrights-sec; not sure. depends on the approach.
15:18 schestowitz-TR; reading it now
15:18 schestowitz-TR; 411 commens
15:18 schestowitz-TR; he should do more areticles like this
15:18 schestowitz-TR; not 'obligatory shit' for OIN
15:18 Techrights-sec; :(
15:18 Techrights-sec; conflict of interest to be sure
15:23 schestowitz-TR; bear in mind
15:23 schestowitz-TR; to some people, "success" means chromebooks
15:23 schestowitz-TR; and patent pools
15:23 schestowitz-TR; but not to everyone
15:23 schestowitz-TR; softwaree freedom aside,
15:23 schestowitz-TR; conrrupt corporations cannot be reformed
15:23 schestowitz-TR; and should not be rewarded
15:23 schestowitz-TR; they should be eradicated
15:23 schestowitz-TR; media that misleads people
15:23 schestowitz-TR; as the business model
15:23 schestowitz-TR; is no better than SEO spamfarms that mislead seach engines
15:23 schestowitz-TR; sjvn takes a salary from such media
15:23 schestowitz-TR; at one point we were exchanging emails and he told me how he would cope
15:23 schestowitz-TR; with the loss of his site to quinstreet
15:23 schestowitz-TR; saying he would write in [list of pubs]
15:23 schestowitz-TR; but he ended up writing almost exclusively to a publisher
15:23 schestowitz-TR; that gave him no freedom
15:24 schestowitz-TR; intsead, it gave him instructions
15:24 schestowitz-TR; in other words, thje clients (advertisers) decided for sjvn what to write about
15:24 schestowitz-TR; and what positions are permissible
15:24 schestowitz-TR; so far at the register his pieces his pieces are very different from zdnet
15:24 schestowitz-TR; also when he writes at idg, which is very rare
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19:59 schestowitz-TR; [19:59] <techrights-news> "I am now a single-issue voter in the US: stop taxing expats! You can get some insight into the financials of SourceHut in the recently-published financial report." https://drewdevault.com/2022/04/15/Status-update-April-2022.html
19:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-drewdevault.com | Status update, April 2022
20:00 schestowitz-TR; https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/new-mozilla-docuseries-firefox-presents-launch/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/abby-wren-makeup-artist-alopecia-advocate/
20:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | New Mozilla Docuseries Firefox Presents Celebrates Creators
20:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Firefox Presents: A makeup artist with alopecia redefining beauty online
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20:19 schestowitz-TR; > "One thing that really interests me in the Lagrange project is exploring the boundaries of native cross-platform programming, be
20:19 schestowitz-TR; cause I fundamentally dislike the notion that modern cross-platform apps need to be based on a web browser for things to make sens
20:19 schestowitz-TR; e." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_land-of-columns.gmi
20:19 schestowitz-TR; [18:31] <matey> <Techrights-sec> of non-free rather than reaching out to the /sources/ causing the use of <- yes, i said the state
20:19 schestowitz-TR; of the movement sounded more like articles of surrender
20:19 schestowitz-TR; [18:50] <techrights-news> "VMware Multiple Products Privilege Escalation Vulnerability" https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-acti
20:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-acti )
20:19 schestowitz-TR; vity/2022/04/15/cisa-adds-nine-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog Vmware the frauds try to blame "Linux" for their own defect
20:19 schestowitz-TR; ive crap http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware#2022
20:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | VMware - Techrights
20:19 schestowitz-TR; [18:50] <techrights-news> "An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system." VMware is crap lik
20:19 schestowitz-TR; e Windows. No wonder as Microsofters stole the company. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/15/vmware-releases-
20:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/15/vmware-releases- )
20:19 schestowitz-TR; security-updates-cloud-director
20:19 schestowitz-TR; [18:52] <techrights-news> Linux Foundation is now fronting for serial GPl violators like VMware and Microsoft. "Less Time on Compl
20:19 schestowitz-TR; iance"... https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/more-time-on-innovating-less-time-on-compliance/
20:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-linuxfoundation.org | More Time on Innovating, Less Time on Compliance - Linux Foundation
20:19 schestowitz-TR; [19:01] <techrights-news> SJVN shilling Microsoft for LF (the sponsor of this) https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-finally-brings-arm
20:19 schestowitz-TR; -based-vms-to-azure/
20:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://thenewstack.io/microsoft-finally-brings-arm )
20:19 Techrights-sec; I hope Cory Doctorow is able to put away enough to cover a comfortable
20:19 Techrights-sec; retirements so that he does not end up like some others ...
20:20 schestowitz-TR; were you able to 'scroll' back or rather see the link about lagrange?
20:20 schestowitz-TR; while afak I wanted to share some more links but worried they would nuke freom sight older ones
20:22 Techrights-sec; I saw that there was something about Lagrange but did not have a chance to check it
20:22 Techrights-sec; https://gmi.skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-04_land-of-columns.gmi
20:22 Techrights-sec; ??
20:22 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gmi.skyjake.fi | In the Land of Columns and Characters
20:22 schestowitz-TR; Yes, I also need to find better methods og buffering thoughts
20:22 schestowitz-TR; with irc on several screens it's far too easy to get distracted
20:22 schestowitz-TR; Twitter seems to have stated faking "impression" numbers some days ago
20:22 schestowitz-TR; I posted nothing
20:22 schestowitz-TR; but # of impressions more than quadrupled each and every day
20:22 schestowitz-TR; they were sued for faking and settled (lost)
20:23 Techrights-sec; Interesting. I wonder how they can be called out and their fakery exposed.
20:27 schestowitz-TR; either way, there were more things I wanted to share with you but they must not have been too important or else I would have
20:27 schestowitz-TR; written them down. If not here, then my notes somewhere.
20:27 schestowitz-TR; I'm going to record soon.
20:27 schestowitz-TR; Not many annoying bits of noise/news this week.
20:27 schestowitz-TR; I prefer it that way
20:27 schestowitz-TR; Rianne saved us about 30 pounds on the food bills today
20:27 schestowitz-TR; Had I joined, it would be 60
20:27 schestowitz-TR; lots of dirt-cheap items she copuld not carry
20:27 schestowitz-TR; I will doa journey sunday night
20:27 schestowitz-TR; coffee got more expensive
20:27 schestowitz-TR; let me check the weight, hang on
20:27 schestowitz-TR; aldi arbia roast, the cheapest, for the brewing, 227grams at around 1.19 pounds
20:27 schestowitz-TR; the one I used to buy is abotu 1.50
20:28 Techrights-sec; ack
20:28 Techrights-sec; excellent
20:28 schestowitz-TR; regarding twitter, I called them out on it years ago
20:28 schestowitz-TR; of course
20:28 schestowitz-TR; bots
20:28 schestowitz-TR; were gaming the site
20:28 schestowitz-TR; and they looked the other way
20:31 Techrights-sec; I think that may be avout 6.88 EUR per kilo, which is just over half what it
20:31 Techrights-sec; is here nowadays
20:31 Techrights-sec; even the cheapes brand
20:31 Techrights-sec; ^6.34 EUR
20:31 Techrights-sec; If there is Quarterlky profit to be gained, then of course they look the other
20:31 Techrights-sec; way
20:31 Techrights-sec; fossil fuel pricing is used to maniplate elections, especially US elections
20:31 Techrights-sec; there is a myth tying pump prices to satisfaction with the incumbents
20:31 Techrights-sec; that's false but cultivated in the minds of the public anyway
20:31 Techrights-sec; and then the prices are modified to push the election a few points in
20:31 Techrights-sec; on direction or the other.
20:32 schestowitz-TR; one more lever of control or a spiggot for oil magnates to get the country's "leader" to
20:32 schestowitz-TR; "owe them one"
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