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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, January 15, 2022

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beginning of new day, January 15

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07:29 schestowitz; <li>

07:29 schestowitz; <h5><a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How low can you go? Running Ubuntu Desktop on a 2GB Raspberry Pi 4</a></h5>

↺ https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How

07:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 404 @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How )

↺ https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-low-can-you-go-running-ubuntu-desktop-on-a-2gb-raspberry-pi-4">How

07:29 schestowitz; <blockquote>

07:29 schestowitz; <p>At Canonical were proud to be able to offer a full Ubuntu Desktop experience on the Raspberry 4. Ubuntu Desktop provides everything you need to develop software and even deploy it to Ubuntu Server on devices like the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W.</p>

07:29 schestowitz; <p>However the full desktop environment is quite a lot for the Pi to handle. Up until now, weve recommended users stick to models with either 4GB or 8GB of RAM to be confident that it will perform well. One of our goals for the upcoming Ubuntu 22.04 LTS release is to lower that barrier to entry. This means targeting a viable Desktop experience on Raspberry Pi 4 2GB models.</p>

07:29 schestowitz; <p>The secret to this optimisation is a Linux kernel feature called zswap. In this blog, well show you how to enable this functionality today and benefit from the upcoming performance boost that will come as standard in 22.04.</p></blockquote></li>

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07:36 Techrights-sec; xmlstarlet ed -d '//tr[th[@class="nick" and (text()="DaemonFC")]]' irc-log-techri

07:36 Techrights-sec; ghts-140122.html > quieter.html ; firefox quieter.html

07:36 Techrights-sec; ...

07:37 schestowitz-TR; yes, I can relate and I view channels through a filter and aggregator to lower distraction

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9 AM, January 15

09:00 Techrights-sec; filtering is reactive, a more proactive approach is needed to reduce damage to th

09:00 Techrights-sec; e channel and not scare away so many visitors

09:01 schestowitz-TR; yesterday he started using social a bit, for covid chat... I'll try to move things in that direction as soon as I see the issue

09:02 Techrights-sec; ok that's an improvement, perhaps a mute is needed for training purposes

09:02 schestowitz-TR; a last resort, yes... I came close before

09:06 Techrights-sec; not in all channels just the one is needed (long overdue)

09:06 Techrights-sec; https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner

↺ https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner

09:06 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-simple.wikipedia.org | B. F. Skinner - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

09:08 Techrights-sec; https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

↺ https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning

09:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-simple.wikipedia.org | Operant conditioning - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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09:34 Techrights-sec; by the way, the steps to migrate from microSD to USB booting:

09:34 Techrights-sec; burn OS image to USB, mount and transfer /etc /home and parts of /var,

09:34 Techrights-sec; transfer info about installed packages and system accounts,

09:34 Techrights-sec; set boot order in rasp-config, reboot, (all that is quick)

09:34 Techrights-sec; then tie up loose ends, the better your backup protocol the faster this last

09:34 Techrights-sec; part goes

09:34 Techrights-sec; unfortunately for my particular use-case, the new OS has new versions of a lot

09:34 Techrights-sec; of modules and most of my custom scripts are broken, perhaps beyoned repair.

09:34 Techrights-sec; the perl scripts are in a better situation than the python scripts though so

09:34 Techrights-sec; gemini capsule's workflow is most likely unaffected, the microSD card remains as

09:34 Techrights-sec; a backup anyway

09:34 schestowitz-TR; i was just thinking of asking you last night

09:34 schestowitz-TR; as I too might make this move

09:34 schestowitz-TR; I last made a full backup 2 days ago, I will back up cron again now..

09:38 schestowitz-TR; done

09:38 Techrights-sec; ack

09:38 Techrights-sec; excellent

09:39 schestowitz-TR; to be clear, I back up /home to the laptop, which then gets offloaded to external disks too. so all accounts get covered

09:39 Techrights-sec; ack

09:41 schestowitz-TR; based on psydroid, disaster should be presumed imminent at all times and then, moving to external disk if the wiser choice, I have some spare USB disks here

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09:45 Techrights-sec; agreed; a USB stick is adequate and if slightly underprovisioned will do well

09:45 Techrights-sec; I'm not quite sure of the best method to ensure underprovisioning because

09:45 Techrights-sec; of the way that Raspberry Pi OS does the file system expansion. However most

09:45 Techrights-sec; sticks I've seen have 5-year warrantees. So maybe that is not a severe

09:45 Techrights-sec; problem any more.

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noon, January 15

12:28 Techrights-sec; I have a very primitev ive proof of concept chat set up now.

12:29 Techrights-sec; it depends on MQTT and tmux, so with major changes to authentication, it could

12:29 Techrights-sec; scale nicely but the authentication is one of the things which seems to have

12:29 Techrights-sec; broken in the recent version of the distro

12:30 Techrights-sec; because the windowing is managed by tmux, the scrollback is too

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12:44 Techrights-sec; ok still needs work

12:44 Techrights-sec; quoting / escape bug fixed


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14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 pi: hello

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: 1

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: 2

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: 3

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec:

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: yep

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 pi: multi-participants

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: it runs over mqtt, which in theory adds a lot of flexibility

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: if the recent regressions can be worked around or a new version

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: fixes them

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: ctrl-b + dnarrow will reduce the size of the lower pane

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: paste works

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy:

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy:

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: ^ test

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: handles rescaling better

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: yes, the windowing is only tmux

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: I looked at curses a bit but this has fewer parts in some ways

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: $ grep -c -v '^$' xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: 24

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec:

14:29 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: this will make things easier

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: the big disadvantage for right now is that it requires local shell access

14:29 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: that is to say an SSH login is needed

14:30 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: if MQTT can ever work with TLS again then the client can be remote and

14:30 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: a login would not be needed

14:30 schestowitz; 12:44 roy: brb, finalising blog post

14:30 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: ack

14:30 schestowitz; 12:41 techrights-sec: I see a bug with the time stamp ...

14:30 schestowitz; 12:51 techrights-sec:

14:30 schestowitz; 12:51 techrights-sec: ok fixed

14:30 schestowitz; 12:52 techrights-sec:

14:30 schestowitz; 12:52 techrights-sec: need to add ACLs later, too

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10 PM, January 15

22:58 schestowitz; http://suepo.org/january_2022_press_articles/d-47426

↺ http://suepo.org/january_2022_press_articles/d-47426

22:59 schestowitz; "(ManagingIP posted on 05/01/2022). "Haar today, gone tomorrow: EPO's brief BoA move raises queries. Article is behind a paywall - Here is the link to the .PDF which is only available on the restricted SUEPO website - password protected. *Translations are available in German and French."

22:59 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-suepo.org |


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23:39 schestowitz; >> We can do a fiction piece for sure. Last year I

23:39 schestowitz; >> did lots of poetry with fictional scenarios that get some points across.

23:39 schestowitz; > Oh that's refreshing.

23:39 schestowitz; >

23:39 schestowitz; > Tell me what you think of this if you've time for a 15 min read


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