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1 AM, December 14

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6 AM, December 14

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06:41 techrightssec2; pwer ower was out most of the night after a hiccup late in the evening after afk

06:41 techrightssec2; the hiccup broke ytalk etc

06:41 schestowitz-TR; did you see my two URLs (my own blog)

06:42 schestowitz-TR; wait...

06:42 techrightssec2; no

06:43 schestowitz-TR; British parliament yesterday: we should quit administrating those experimental COVID-19 vaccines. Harms outweigh the benefits now. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/14/miscarriage-of-medical-science/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/14/miscarriage-of-medical-science/

06:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Miscarriage of Medical Science

06:46 techrightssec2; Checking

06:46 techrightssec2; The second one is just a link to a video

06:48 schestowitz-TR; invidious

06:48 schestowitz-TR; I also try to preserve the description with URLs

06:48 schestowitz-TR; I reckon his days are numbered in youtube

06:48 schestowitz-TR; and he already promotes his own site

06:48 schestowitz-TR; and parrots shit google compels him to say

06:48 schestowitz-TR; it reminds me of some regimes

06:48 schestowitz-TR; and how they force athletes and all to sing some anthem

06:48 schestowitz-TR; and wear certain symbolism of politics

06:48 techrightssec2; Yes, it is noticeable that many are compelled to parrot things, usually by

06:48 techrightssec2; throwing in a "windows is ok" or "windows, too" which goes the opposite to the

06:48 techrightssec2; rest of the video

06:50 schestowitz-TR; the latest BS is,

06:50 schestowitz-TR; clown computing is the future

06:50 schestowitz-TR; Gulag and Amazon/Oracle/Microsoft/IBM

06:50 schestowitz-TR; and saying it is not ok make syou "crank"

06:50 schestowitz-TR; or, as my former boss would put it

06:50 schestowitz-TR; "paranoid" or "hobbyist"

06:51 techrightssec2; It is over for clown, be sure to link to those reports from the other day

06:51 techrightssec2; which show that clown is not and has never been cost effective

06:51 techrightssec2; All they have to come back with is an ad hominem fallacy.

06:55 schestowitz-TR; yes, "ad hominem fallacy.

06:55 schestowitz-TR; exactly, that's also mentioned repeatedly in the series about Sirius

06:55 schestowitz-TR; and now we have a resident troll in IRC pushing those same lies

06:56 techrightssec2; Like with systemd

06:56 techrightssec2; Probably a large intersection in the sets containing people in both groups

06:59 schestowitz-TR; and 'secure' boot etc.

06:59 schestowitz-TR; trust GAFAM

06:59 schestowitz-TR; because you have to trust SOMEONE

06:59 schestowitz-TR; so trust MICROSOFT

06:59 schestowitz-TR; btw, canonical just shills azure as "confidential"

06:59 schestowitz-TR; I'd never touch ubuntu again

06:59 techrightssec2; On what basis, besides possible kickbacks, does Canonical make that assertion?

06:59 schestowitz-TR; maybe it's in the canonical contract, implicitly

06:59 schestowitz-TR; a) do marketing for microsoft

06:59 schestowitz-TR; b) do not participate in antitrust complaints

06:59 schestowitz-TR; btw, I still lack enough material for that [topic]

06:59 schestowitz-TR; it's still in my drafts for now


7 AM, December 14

07:01 techrightssec2; Probably, or it's via all the "talent" which they have hired "away" from m$

07:01 techrightssec2; Is there staffing data available to show how many at m$ are now on Canonical's

07:01 techrightssec2; payroll?

07:03 schestowitz-TR; no, it ius na very laborious task

07:03 schestowitz-TR; like, if their names are unique, you look them up

07:03 schestowitz-TR; some fools pout theirt full employment history in microsoft linkedToEpstein

07:03 schestowitz-TR; in the past, some people in email or irc give me hat tips re canonical stuff

07:03 schestowitz-TR; like rich spencer from microsoft

07:04 schestowitz-TR; then desktop chief at canonical

07:04 schestowitz-TR; microsoft managed to put a person in charge of the biggest userbase of gnu/linux

07:04 schestowitz-TR; and they seeded mono this way

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07:05 techrightssec2; Microsofters tend to hide their connections these days; Same for message headers

07:05 techrightssec2; in e-mail. They /don't/ want it obvious that the mail got lost in m$ outlook

07:05 techrightssec2; or m$ exchange

07:50 schestowitz-TR; findign unix and foss-oriented people is hard

07:50 schestowitz-TR; they should be paid more, not less

07:50 schestowitz-TR; the subject of the latest TR posts

07:50 schestowitz-TR; not sure if there are lessons there that apply to other people who frequent the site

07:50 schestowitz-TR; clown computing will be revisited later


8 AM, December 14

08:10 schestowitz-TR; good news re msfr

08:10 schestowitz-TR; looks increasignly plausible the layoffs happen next month

08:10 schestowitz-TR; they might delay to save face

08:10 schestowitz-TR; due to the rumours

08:10 schestowitz-TR; draft

08:24 techrightssec2; checking

08:24 techrightssec2; text missing?

08:24 schestowitz-TR; jst added some more text

08:24 schestowitz-TR; captions

08:24 schestowitz-TR; from your pointers re xbox

08:25 techrightssec2; ack

08:26 schestowitz-TR; can you suggest another ref/gem to throw in for more effect?

08:30 techrightssec2; https://www.trueachievements.com/n49563/xbox-drm-online

↺ https://www.trueachievements.com/n49563/xbox-drm-online

08:30 techrightssec2; https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.html

08:30 techrightssec2; http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/100312/932078071-MIT.pdf?s

↺ http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/100312/932078071-MIT.pdf?s

08:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.trueachievements.com | Xbox online DRM heavily criticised following major outages [updated]

08:30 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-DRM in Windows Vista - Schneier on Security

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08:46 schestowitz-TR; off the script: from what I saw in their irc trolling, you become an EPIC thorn on their side when you

08:46 schestowitz-TR; point out azure is faikling and there are layoffs

08:46 schestowitz-TR; becasuse

08:46 schestowitz-TR; a) it is true

08:46 schestowitz-TR; b) they keep trlling shareholders "azure" is the future

08:46 schestowitz-TR; v) they reclassiofy almost everything as "clown" or "Azure" over time to fulful b

08:48 techrightssec2; Yes, it appears that the might be moving budget line items under "Azure" to

08:48 techrightssec2; fake growth. They've also gotten a few bailouts which they appear to have

08:48 techrightssec2; funneled into the Azure budget. However, the layoffs expose the truth.

08:48 techrightssec2; Too bad those laid off 1) drank the koolaid and won't speak and 2) signed

08:48 techrightssec2; non-disparagement clauses in their separation contracts so they can't speak

08:48 techrightssec2; even if they would speak.

08:48 schestowitz-TR; not just layoffs

08:48 schestowitz-TR; I heard from inside that the management goes around with an axe looking for what to cut

08:48 schestowitz-TR; expense-wise

08:48 schestowitz-TR; to the point it no longer feels the same

08:48 schestowitz-TR; lowering morale


9 AM, December 14

09:12 techrightssec2; It was always a backstabbing kind of place, thus those that want to work there

09:12 techrightssec2; are questionable and those that have worked there are pure toxin

09:14 schestowitz-TR; "Looks like (fearful) foreign nationals are flooding this post" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jTBhjA6#replies Microsoft = sociopaths. Hardly surprising to see racism and xenophobia; they turn against one another.

↺ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1jTBhjA6#replies

09:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thelayoff.com | Why does Microsoft hire so many foreigners? - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs

09:20 schestowitz-TR; yes, I noticed after I had made the error

09:20 schestowitz-TR; sorry about that

09:20 schestowitz-TR; btw, did you also paste some odysee video before accidental crtl+c?

09:20 schestowitz-TR; if so, I did not get a change to open the link

09:20 schestowitz-TR; after

09:20 schestowitz-TR; [09:12] <techrightssec2> It was always a backstabbing kind of place, thus those that want to work there

09:20 schestowitz-TR; [09:12] <techrightssec2> are questionable and those that have worked there are pure toxin

09:20 schestowitz-TR; we start workout in a few minutes

09:20 schestowitz-TR; the cold wave gives more incentive to exercise

09:20 schestowitz-TR; the one upside, if any...

09:20 schestowitz-TR; it won't be warner sooner than the weekend

09:20 schestowitz-TR; and it's killing people here, financially, mentally, and health toll

09:20 schestowitz-TR; in his video last night john campbell said he was wearing TWO thermal vests

09:20 schestowitz-TR; in addition to thick garments

09:20 schestowitz-TR; energy bills here can easily exceed 300 a month if you keep a modest home warm

09:20 schestowitz-TR; biab

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10:29 techrightssec2; testing restarting ytalk automatically after reboot, or at least the

10:29 techrightssec2; script for it, won't actually reboot here until it is really needed


11 AM, December 14

11:47 schestowitz-TR; turns out mjg is a windows coder

11:47 schestowitz-TR; for TPM

11:47 schestowitz-TR; to put trucks on the road without an actual driver

11:47 schestowitz-TR; it would be criminal to attempt this

11:47 schestowitz-TR; the incidents would take only days to start

11:48 psydruid; the mask has fallen off completely

11:49 psydruid; no wonder he pushes all of that Microsoft crap

11:52 mjg59_; What? That code is for Windows laptops.

11:52 mjg59_; Because we have people who use CAD tools that are only available for Windows

11:52 schestowitz-TR; still

11:53 schestowitz-TR; keep those trucks in the garage

11:53 schestowitz-TR; they are unfit for purpose

11:53 schestowitz-TR; Windows or not

11:53 schestowitz-TR; even without Windows it's already INSANE

11:53 schestowitz-TR; speaking as a postdoc who researcher this

11:53 schestowitz-TR; and did peer review of ieee papers in this area

11:53 schestowitz-TR; autonomous driving is in its diaspers

11:53 schestowitz-TR; nowhere near production ready

11:54 schestowitz-TR; just falsely marketed like many other things

11:54 schestowitz-TR; it's the "polygraph of automobiles"

11:54 mjg59_; Did your research go beyond attempting to fit models of a picture of the back of a car to video?

11:54 schestowitz-TR; did you see company demos?

11:54 schestowitz-TR; aka vapourware

11:55 schestowitz-TR; which target clueless shareholders?

11:55 schestowitz-TR; what's left of them

11:55 schestowitz-TR; 93% of the aurora shareholders seem to have bailed out

11:55 schestowitz-TR; realising this is going nowhere

11:55 schestowitz-TR; and press is belatedly saying the same

11:55 schestowitz-TR; so the companies move the goalposts

11:55 schestowitz-TR; as they always do

11:55 schestowitz-TR; now it's "trucks"

11:55 schestowitz-TR; even MORE dangerous

11:55 schestowitz-TR; some carry like 20 tons

11:56 schestowitz-TR; and can break bridges

11:56 schestowitz-TR; you knowit

11:56 schestowitz-TR; I know it

11:56 schestowitz-TR; but you won't admit it

11:56 schestowitz-TR; moving goalposts from sedan to truck because the smaller one fails does not make sense

11:56 schestowitz-TR; the roads ae not rails

11:56 schestowitz-TR; even trains need drivers

11:57 schestowitz-TR; same for planes

11:57 schestowitz-TR; and you can find ample literature about the reasons

11:57 schestowitz-TR; trucks need drivers

11:57 mjg59_; k

11:57 schestowitz-TR; not some faceless vessels that can move in any directiomn

11:57 schestowitz-TR; and contain chips made in shenzen

11:57 schestowitz-TR; which do who-the-fuck knows what

11:58 schestowitz-TR; k is not a good answer

11:58 schestowitz-TR; wrong answer ;-)

11:59 schestowitz-TR; video sequences don't give you a good predictive model

11:59 schestowitz-TR; compared to trained humans

11:59 schestowitz-TR; and humans protect themselves

11:59 schestowitz-TR; robots lack that instict

11:59 schestowitz-TR; it's hard to program fear of death


noon, December 14

12:00 mjg59_; You really don't want fear of death in a truck - it's ok if the truck is destroyed if the alternative would be hurting someone else

12:09 schestowitz-TR; no

12:09 schestowitz-TR; that's even more sinister

12:09 schestowitz-TR; it's like those online railway dilemmas

12:09 schestowitz-TR; what you want to do is control remoately the lever inside the carriage

12:09 schestowitz-TR; and send people to their death

12:09 schestowitz-TR; based on some peripheral risk calculation

12:10 schestowitz-TR; like a death panel

12:10 schestowitz-TR; and likely a wrongful one

12:10 schestowitz-TR; "we sent the passengers down the cliff"

12:10 mjg59_; Yeah a truck without a driver is an easy choice there

12:10 schestowitz-TR; "that's better than than hitting the barrier of the NSA's SQ"

12:10 schestowitz-TR; *HQ

12:10 schestowitz-TR; so you want to remoately control cars

12:10 schestowitz-TR; that opens up to more assassination prospects

12:10 mjg59_; If you have a choice between hitting a human or not hitting a human, you choose not hitting a human

12:11 mjg59_; Without having to worry about whether a human in the truck

12:11 schestowitz-TR; or , like rms puts it, you can dismember people in the car with a saw and then deliver than to saudi embassies

12:11 schestowitz-TR; mjg59_: you want to remoately controlcars

12:11 schestowitz-TR; with companies like mirosoft in charge

12:11 mjg59_; Literally no

12:11 schestowitz-TR; your company wants microsoft to buy

12:11 schestowitz-TR; and does tpm, even windows drivers

12:11 schestowitz-TR; so that's a no-no

12:12 schestowitz-TR; I don't want microsoft controlling people around me

12:12 schestowitz-TR; it can kill people

12:12 schestowitz-TR; and make it look like a LITERAL accident

12:12 mjg59_; I am also in favour of giant corporate entities not controlling people

12:12 schestowitz-TR; they took you onbaord for the illusion of security

12:12 schestowitz-TR; as there is unease about remoaetely controlled cars

12:13 schestowitz-TR; NOT the same as autonomous

12:13 schestowitz-TR; remotely controlled

12:13 mjg59_; Not sure what you're saying here

12:13 schestowitz-TR; so they need some snakeoil like windows+TPM

12:13 schestowitz-TR; while you hail Azure and stuff

12:13 schestowitz-TR; horrible

12:13 mjg59_; But there's no interface to remotely control the vehicles

12:13 schestowitz-TR; you are clever enough to see where this is going

12:13 schestowitz-TR; opposite of software freedom

12:13 schestowitz-TR; you want to take people's cars from them

12:13 mjg59_; The security design is actually to prevent that

12:13 schestowitz-TR; like you did with laptops

12:14 schestowitz-TR; no

12:14 schestowitz-TR; it's remote control

12:14 schestowitz-TR; for the car

12:14 schestowitz-TR; TPM too

12:14 schestowitz-TR; they can remotely disable cars

12:14 schestowitz-TR; microsolft can remoately brick laptops

12:14 schestowitz-TR; via UEFI crapwar

12:14 mjg59_; I really love the idea of you just jumping up and down in front of a giant screen screeming about me

12:14 schestowitz-TR; e*crapware

12:15 schestowitz-TR; mjg59_: now I know what you do

12:15 mjg59_; Full on 2-minute hate

12:15 schestowitz-TR; and I dislike it

12:15 schestowitz-TR; first you attacked people's control over their computers

12:15 mjg59_; Elaborate fantasies

12:15 schestowitz-TR; now you do the same with computers on 4 wheels or even 18 wheels

12:15 mjg59_; What you're saying just isn't true

12:15 schestowitz-TR; that can kill many people

12:15 schestowitz-TR; time will tell if I was right about

12:15 schestowitz-TR; 1) regulatory barriers

12:15 mjg59_; Yeah sure let's check in in a decade

12:16 mjg59_; I'm good with that

12:16 schestowitz-TR; (this won't fly; if it starts, it'll be stopped fast)

12:16 schestowitz-TR; 2) these things will be misused maliciously, whether by intention or not

12:16 schestowitz-TR; 3) security will remain a big problem, as will car ownership

12:16 schestowitz-TR; it's some cybord fantasy spun into a company

12:16 schestowitz-TR; for ageing clueless shareholders

12:16 schestowitz-TR; who sank some bucks into a $10 company

12:17 schestowitz-TR; (peak $17)

12:17 schestowitz-TR; that's almost a penny stock already

12:17 schestowitz-TR; *cyborg

12:17 schestowitz-TR; I can give similar examples

12:17 schestowitz-TR; of people trying to convince themselves sci-fi can become pragmatic reality

12:17 schestowitz-TR; and it all went up in flames

12:18 schestowitz-TR; life is for practical things

12:18 schestowitz-TR; not childhod books

12:18 schestowitz-TR; and superhero comics

12:18 schestowitz-TR; like some 'kids' in SIrius

12:18 schestowitz-TR; grown-ups who use cartoons and fancy themselves as superheroes

12:19 schestowitz-TR; Keith Alexander from NSA asked them to replicate Star Trek for his office

12:19 schestowitz-TR; NSA chief

12:19 schestowitz-TR; acting like a kid

12:19 schestowitz-TR; and they did that... waste of taxpayers' money

12:20 schestowitz-TR; and aurora is selling transformers(tm) fantasy

12:20 schestowitz-TR; elon your boss from twitter does the same in tesla

12:20 schestowitz-TR; modeling the vapourware trucks like that


3 PM, December 14

15:26 schestowitz-TR; are links still impending?

15:34 techrightssec2; yes, in a bit

15:46 techrightssec2; ack

15:46 techrightssec2; M$ hates and attacks /everything/

15:47 schestowitz-TR; i think something changed in a key perl file, likely camerlcase

15:47 schestowitz-TR; so I get an error

15:47 schestowitz-TR; can you check at your end?

15:53 psydruid; The only thing that can help for a start is the total destruction of M$

15:54 psydruid; Not going to M$ HQ to lecture them on free software

15:55 techrightssec2; which script?

15:55 techrightssec2; There are some pending changes that deal with reconverting punycode back to

15:55 techrightssec2; unicode in host names and the necessary module is not buildable on the

15:55 techrightssec2; production system so I may have to make a work-around

15:55 techrightssec2; but which script?

15:55 techrightssec2; The CamelCase.pm file should be ok since that needs to run successfully

15:55 techrightssec2; prior to the actual upload occuring.

15:55 techrightssec2; If CamelCase fails then the upload does not happen.


4 PM, December 14

16:00 schestowitz-TR; i see now

16:00 schestowitz-TR; need to install encode in cpan


5 PM, December 14

17:04 schestowitz-TR; Not going to M$ HQ to lecture them on free software

17:04 schestowitz-TR; RMS 2019

17:04 schestowitz-TR; weeks before bill gates got caught up in a scandal

17:05 schestowitz-TR; bribing mit through his bbf, the child sex trafficker

17:05 schestowitz-TR; and then microsoft-centric media shifted all attention to rms

17:12 schestowitz-TR; *bff

17:12 schestowitz-TR; psydruid: ^


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