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beginning of new day, November 14

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3 AM, November 14

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4 AM, November 14

04:18 schestowitz-TR; Substantial Underestimate of the True Circulation of COVID-19 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/covid19-circulation/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/covid19-circulation/

04:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Substantial Underestimate of the True Circulation of COVID-19

04:19 Techrightssec; Summary?

04:19 schestowitz-TR; in that page

04:22 Techrightssec; Not seeing one there.

04:22 schestowitz-TR; right below the video. "Description:"

04:22 schestowitz-TR; with some references

04:24 schestowitz-TR; he chooses title to avoid "pissing up" Gulag and its sponsors

04:24 schestowitz-TR; his channel and all his videos will likely vanish at some point

04:24 schestowitz-TR; they can even pick years-old videos, like they dom SwitchedToLinux

04:40 Techrightssec; ack

04:41 schestowitz-TR; can the like other-links for 11-14 be disregarded for the time being?

04:43 Techrightssec; Yes, the file is being edited as an experiment in the work flow.

04:44 Techrightssec; I think it will be better to do editing off of tr-new and then upload

04:44 Techrightssec; as before. So tomorrow's will behave as more normal. But hopefully

04:44 Techrightssec; the automated links and such can be done on tr-new


5 AM, November 14

05:15 schestowitz-TR; I think I will need to change my notifer for when the files are readt

05:15 schestowitz-TR; *ready

05:15 schestowitz-TR; atm it looks for latest other-links

05:25 Techrightssec; that method will be good once again starting after a few minutes

05:25 Techrightssec; I had forgotten about that.

05:25 Techrightssec; Hammering out some scripting migration atm

05:26 schestowitz-TR; thanks

05:26 schestowitz-TR; trying hard to find stories atm

05:26 schestowitz-TR; it gets harder over time

05:33 Techrightssec; ok try now, ignore 2022-11-14.html it is an artifact

05:33 Techrightssec; It'll take a few days to smooth out the details but the coarse part of

05:33 Techrightssec; the merge works now on tr-new

05:33 Techrightssec; In an interview, Mikko Hyppnen indicated that he thinks that the solution to

05:33 Techrightssec; ending the blaming the victim which m$ does is to remove the ability for

05:33 Techrightssec; the victim to modify his or her system and that only vendors should be in

05:33 Techrightssec; full control of the systems.

05:41 schestowitz-TR; ok, got the latest. should other links be ignored until later today?

05:41 schestowitz-TR; or did you refer to the one with ~ at the end?

05:59 Techrightssec; other links is good too

05:59 Techrightssec; the ~ files should be ignored


6 AM, November 14

06:00 schestowitz-TR; Mikko Hyppnen is Establishment figure

06:00 schestowitz-TR; f-secure iirc

06:06 Techrightssec; Yes his fortune and his career is built on sucking up to m$

06:09 schestowitz-TR; the "media" picks "winners" and "losers" or "experts" and "cracks"

06:09 schestowitz-TR; that media is also funded by advertisers that work foir SUPO, NSA etc.

06:09 schestowitz-TR; the f in f-secure can stand for all sorts of things

06:09 schestowitz-TR; there is a trademark sign after "secure"

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7 AM, November 14

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07:31 Techrightssec; ack


8 AM, November 14

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08:32 schestowitz-TR; Trying to blame "SSH" for people choosing lousy UNIX password. Amazing 'journalism'. https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/new-kmsdbot-malware-hijacking-systems.html

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/new-kmsdbot-malware-hijacking-systems.html

08:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | New KmsdBot Malware Hijacking Systems for Mining Crypto and Launch DDoS Attacks

08:37 Techrightssec; Yep, their end goal is probably a push for proprietary interfaces rather

08:37 Techrightssec; than a commodity shell/

08:37 Techrightssec; It's been part of a push by microsofters to block the protocol at the firewall

08:39 schestowitz-TR; they associate real securityy with crime

08:39 schestowitz-TR; "sideloading"

08:39 schestowitz-TR; or remote "updates" (whose? what kind?) you cannot control or turn down

08:39 schestowitz-TR; notice this trend in "industry"

08:39 schestowitz-TR; proprietary VPNs and bloatware

08:39 schestowitz-TR; then "clown computing" and "webapps" that only work with compromsied browsers

08:39 schestowitz-TR; i.e. they're not "web", just "apps" for some hypervisor

08:41 schestowitz-TR; "Improving cyber-security by purchasing licenses for all proprietary software is expensive, however, a better alternative may be to migrate to open-source software like Ubuntu Linux and LibreOffice." https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/2022/11/14/sysnova-to-hold-cyber-security-awareness-training-for-it-professionals

↺ https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangladesh/2022/11/14/sysnova-to-hold-cyber-security-awareness-training-for-it-professionals

08:41 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.dhakatribune.com | Sysnova to hold cyber security awareness training for IT professionals

08:43 schestowitz-TR; when it comes to scientific, fact-based analysis, we are winning hsnds down

08:43 schestowitz-TR; btw, that 'hypervisor' is no longer limited to JS

08:43 schestowitz-TR; with wasm and other craps you now rely on tons oc crappy code at the 'hypervisor' level

08:43 schestowitz-TR; not being defective, either intentionally or by accident (with CISA getting headsup_

08:45 schestowitz-TR; speaking of science, ons has new data tomorrow before midday (time judged by prior release times)

08:45 schestowitz-TR; if the trend persists, and if we see such strong evidence of 'cardiac events pandemic',

08:45 schestowitz-TR; then one has to start questioning those boosters, knowing that according to ons

08:45 schestowitz-TR; those excess deaths are neither due to covid or long covid

08:45 schestowitz-TR; *nor

08:58 Techrightssec; fters to block the protocol at the firewall

08:58 Techrightssec; ack


9 AM, November 14

09:00 schestowitz-TR; Twitter is Collapsing: In Numbers... https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/twitter-is-collapsing/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/twitter-is-collapsing/

09:00 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Twitter is Collapsing: In Numbers


10 AM, November 14

10:18 Techrightssec; ack

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I've just posted a Torvalds clip

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I found a better way to encode those clips, both as webm and without missing frames

10:24 schestowitz-TR; I save the 'recipe' for future use cases

10:25 schestowitz-TR; topics would be nice, but likely hard to think of

10:25 schestowitz-TR; as the i/o in news is very low lately

10:25 schestowitz-TR; not much news of significance

10:33 schestowitz-TR; Antibodies tests for COVID-19 in the UK, 179 nanograms per millilitre (ng/ml) or 800 ng/ml: as of this past autumn, 70% or 95% have been exposed to COVID-19 (probably more so the latter; 179 nanograms is very little) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ons-antibodies.ods

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ons-antibodies.ods

10:35 Techrightssec; ack

10:35 Techrightssec; the above interview was full of canards to be addressed, not necessarily but

10:35 Techrightssec; s/but/by/

10:35 Techrightssec; drawing attention to the interview or the book. That those myths and attitudes

10:35 Techrightssec; are circulating in various monied circles is a *big* threat to the continued

10:35 Techrightssec; existence of general purpose computing. As forecast when the first version

10:35 Techrightssec; came out the xbox is a testbed for DRM to be rolled out to the general market

10:35 Techrightssec; over time. There was another article recently about general-purpose versus

10:35 Techrightssec; appliance-based computing.

10:35 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

10:35 Techrightssec; not an article but another video :/

10:35 Techrightssec; https://youtu.be/EiWov2GWgDc

↺ https://youtu.be/EiWov2GWgDc

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Invidious: https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=EiWov2GWgDc

↺ https://invidio.xamh.de/watch?v=EiWov2GWgDc

10:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> invidio.xamh.de | An Interview with Eben Upton- Creator and CEO of Raspberry Pi - Invidious


11 AM, November 14

11:19 schestowitz-TR; UK COVID-19 strategy: infect everybody, distract from the fact far more people than usual are dying every week

11:19 schestowitz-TR; Over 13,000 Registered Deaths in the UK Per Week in Autumn (We're Still Losing Almost as Many People as When COVID-19 Started) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/uk-deaths-based-on-ons/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/uk-deaths-based-on-ons/

11:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Over 13,000 Registered Deaths in the UK Per Week in Autumn (Were Still Losing Almost as Many People as When COVID-19 Started)

11:21 Techrightssec; https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/are-we-doomed-the-future-of-our-smart:c

↺ https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/are-we-doomed-the-future-of-our-smart:c

11:21 Techrightssec; Both videos cover some common topics but from different directions

11:21 Techrightssec;

11:21 Techrightssec; ack

11:21 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-odysee.com | Are we doomed? The future of our smart world?

11:30 schestowitz-TR; watching the video now

11:30 schestowitz-TR; if it strikes many nerves, I might do a response

11:30 schestowitz-TR; he's dressed up not like a hacker

11:30 schestowitz-TR; but like a showman

11:30 schestowitz-TR; don't be offneded

11:30 schestowitz-TR; so far the video is shit

11:30 schestowitz-TR; like internet of shit

11:30 schestowitz-TR; 3 mins in

11:30 schestowitz-TR; doesn't say anything

11:30 schestowitz-TR; self-promotion

11:30 schestowitz-TR; from the guy who looks like a magician and talks like one

11:30 schestowitz-TR; now they add stock effects

11:30 schestowitz-TR; for dramatic effect

11:30 schestowitz-TR; don't want to trash-talk it

11:30 schestowitz-TR; will just close

11:30 schestowitz-TR; "smart... smart... smart"

11:30 schestowitz-TR; he talks their language

11:30 schestowitz-TR; anyway, it's just the media hyping up his name, I think

11:30 schestowitz-TR; and his talking the same language

11:30 schestowitz-TR; I've closed david copperfield and will check links now

11:31 Techrightssec; yep

11:31 Techrightssec; same with the gesturing and such; however, he's gen X

11:31 Techrightssec; regardless of how he hops around

11:31 Techrightssec; there are a lot of parts there, it is long

11:32 schestowitz-TR; even if there are parts about "HEY HI" and "clown", I doubt it will improve

11:32 schestowitz-TR; I know almost nothing about him except his name and where he works

11:32 schestowitz-TR; and people quoting him a lot

11:37 Techrightssec; the main topic ws his repeated pushing for appliance computing to replace

11:37 Techrightssec; general purpose computing and his assertations that only the vendors should

11:37 Techrightssec; have control over the computer not the people sitting at the keyboard

11:39 schestowitz-TR; he mentioned "netflix" on "smart TV"

11:39 schestowitz-TR; I think he's a hypocrite

11:39 schestowitz-TR; with his "dumb watch" and "smart" things he has no control over

11:39 schestowitz-TR; he is the pork-eating imam

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11:41 schestowitz-TR; like I said, I know very little about him

11:41 schestowitz-TR; but he's the gimmick version of (fake?) security

11:41 schestowitz-TR; like people who tell us about "software freedom" while shilling pluton, microsoft-restricted boot,

11:41 schestowitz-TR; and mess about with "smart" gadgets at home in spite of how many flaws that introduced at many levels, even whilem

11:41 schestowitz-TR; afk

11:42 Techrightssec; yes, see https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot-07/exploiting-concurrency-vulnerabilities-system-call-wrappers

↺ https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot-07/exploiting-concurrency-vulnerabilities-system-call-wrappers

11:42 Techrightssec; at least back in 2007 all such anti-virus hokum was just for show and bypasable

11:42 Techrightssec; if nothing has changed (which it probably hasn't) then it is still hokum

11:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.usenix.org | Exploiting Concurrency Vulnerabilities in System Call Wrappers | USENIX

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11:44 schestowitz-TR; the f can stand for f*** rather than a nation

11:44 schestowitz-TR; I am cycnical of the AV pushers

11:44 schestowitz-TR; inc. kaspersky

11:44 schestowitz-TR; no matter the outfit (black t-shirt, superhero, suit)

11:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe mikko is a good salesman

11:46 Techrightssec; see once instance at about 48m into the odysee video

11:46 Techrightssec; he lies about "getting better security" from locking people out of their own

11:46 Techrightssec; systems

11:46 Techrightssec; I guess if one defines security as job security for shysters and poor quality

11:46 Techrightssec; software then ok. But for standard confidentiality, integrity, and availability

11:46 Techrightssec; that is not true.

11:47 schestowitz-TR; there are analogies for this

11:47 schestowitz-TR; where you outsource control and call that security

11:47 schestowitz-TR; like slaves who got "barn safety" and food

11:47 schestowitz-TR; but they didn't enjoy safety if they tried to run away

11:47 schestowitz-TR; they could be shot in the back

11:47 schestowitz-TR; there is the buzz-term "managed service

11:47 schestowitz-TR; softer version of "outsourcing"

11:52 Techrightssec; "those are much more secure because they *are* closed", he says

11:52 Techrightssec; https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17501-if-ye-love-wealth-better-than-liberty-the-tranquility-of

↺ https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/17501-if-ye-love-wealth-better-than-liberty-the-tranquility-of

11:52 Techrightssec; usually they were hanged when caught if not returned to servitude immediately,

11:52 Techrightssec; at least in the US. Other regions had different practices through the ages

11:52 Techrightssec; and in MENA the practice of keeping people as slaves is still ongoing and not

11:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Samuel Adams: If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tran...

11:52 Techrightssec; let up over the centuries though the rest of the world modernized. Some cultures let slaves buy their freedom over a few years or else

11:52 Techrightssec; gradually become a normal member of the tribe over time. So it varied a lot. Again, MENA still has

11:52 Techrightssec; a prodigious slave trade.

11:52 Techrightssec; and slave holdings and many jobs done are not far from slavery there anyway.

11:52 Techrightssec; Thus it is reprehensible that sports events allow themselves to be used

11:52 Techrightssec; for reputation washing there.


noon, November 14

12:02 schestowitz-TR; Poor research: "It's not immediately clear how the WordPress sites are breached, and Sucuri said it did not notice any obvious plugin flaws being exploited to carry out the campaign." https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/over-15000-wordpress-sites-compromised.html

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/over-15000-wordpress-sites-compromised.html

12:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | Over 15,000 WordPress Sites Compromised in Malicious SEO Campaign

12:02 schestowitz-TR; thehackernews.com | Over 15,000 WordPress Sites Compromised in Malicious SEO Campaign

12:02 schestowitz-TR; Webspam disguised as 'article' https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/what-is-external-penetration-test.html

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/what-is-external-penetration-test.html

12:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | What is an External Penetration Test?

12:02 schestowitz-TR; thehackernews.com | What is an External Penetration Test?

12:23 Techrightssec; THe part of his video which was not about IoT was about blaming the victim

12:23 Techrightssec; and using the blame as an excuse to wrest further control away from people.


1 PM, November 14

13:01 *scientes23 (~c62ebe51@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #boycottnovell

13:07 Techrightssec; and in that video, they both omit a real, major crisis with embedded systems,

13:07 Techrightssec; that of 32-bit time

13:07 Techrightssec; https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20130813072244

↺ https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20130813072244

13:07 Techrightssec; https://people.cs.nctu.edu.tw/~tsaiwn/sisc/runtime_error_200_div_by_0/www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/critdate.htm#Y2038

↺ https://people.cs.nctu.edu.tw/~tsaiwn/sisc/runtime_error_200_div_by_0/www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/critdate.htm#Y2038

13:07 Techrightssec; That's at least as big a crisis as having the devices be online

13:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-undeadly.org | 64-bit Time on OpenBSD

13:07 Techrightssec; More so in some ways because it affects old devices even whether they are

13:07 Techrightssec; online or not

13:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-people.cs.nctu.edu.tw | Merlyn - Critical and Significant Dates - J R Stockton

13:09 schestowitz-TR; email is fast becoming a massive waste of time

13:09 schestowitz-TR; I cherry-pick what to open not because of classic spam

13:09 schestowitz-TR; but PR agencies and shitheads writing "proposals"

13:09 schestowitz-TR; which I delete but need to scam for a few seconds anyway

13:09 schestowitz-TR; gmail does not solve this issue, it contributes to it

13:10 Techrightssec; GMail contributes to the worsening of e-mail all around.

13:10 Techrightssec; It's part of their ongoing moves to capture the service and take the protocols

13:10 Techrightssec; private.

13:11 schestowitz-TR; the best method I found was,

13:11 schestowitz-TR; let it pile up for about a month

13:11 schestowitz-TR; then, sort by subject line, author etc. to cluster the shit

13:11 schestowitz-TR; it makes deletion a lot faster

13:11 Techrightssec; It's part of their ongoing moves to capture the service and take the protocols

13:11 Techrightssec; private.

13:11 Techrightssec; /proprietary.

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13:36 schestowitz-TR; Bruce Schneier has mentioned "ransomware" and fails to note this is primarily a Microsoft Windows issue, to be resolved by disconnecting such machines and firing those who deployed such machines in the medical domain https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/a-digital-red-cross.html

↺ https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/11/a-digital-red-cross.html

13:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-A Digital Red Cross - Schneier on Security

13:36 schestowitz-TR; A Digital Red Cross - Schneier on Security

13:36 schestowitz-TR; Removing Microsoft would be vastly more effective https://www.wsj.com/articles/red-cross-wants-digital-symbols-to-deter-hackers-from-healthcare-institutions-11667571607

↺ https://www.wsj.com/articles/red-cross-wants-digital-symbols-to-deter-hackers-from-healthcare-institutions-11667571607

13:36 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Red Cross Wants Digital Symbols to Deter Hackers From Healthcare Institutions - WSJ

13:36 schestowitz-TR; Red Cross Wants Digital Symbols to Deter Hackers From Healthcare Institutions - WSJ

13:36 schestowitz-TR; or maybe mikko an blame the patients and try to lock them out

13:36 Techrightssec; ack

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13:38 schestowitz-TR; some weeks ago zemlin gave a talk in the uk about security

13:38 schestowitz-TR; yes, zemlin the sec guru

13:38 schestowitz-TR; parroting microsoft and snyk talking points

13:38 schestowitz-TR; link in IRC

13:38 schestowitz-TR; they pretend it's about money and propose tracking

13:38 schestowitz-TR; of course he mentions github lots of times

13:38 schestowitz-TR; I don't even want to link to it

13:39 Techrightssec; It's just part of their ongoing campaign against software freedom

13:39 Techrightssec; not about money at all

13:45 schestowitz-TR; the copyrioght troll has just sent a physical letter

13:45 schestowitz-TR; after like... 2 months?

13:45 schestowitz-TR; for me it's nothing

13:45 schestowitz-TR; to rianne (who doesn't know how such trolls operate)

13:45 schestowitz-TR; it's more of a nuisance

13:48 schestowitz-TR; good for the next letter-ripping video, I guess

13:48 schestowitz-TR; just a question of when

13:48 schestowitz-TR; then I can publish redacted PDFs too

13:48 schestowitz-TR; it's an obviously BS claim

13:49 schestowitz-TR; slow news today, at least I deleted about 300 spam

13:49 schestowitz-TR; and got some more maintenance work done

13:55 schestowitz-TR; This is Microsoft Windows, though the article fails to mention this explicitly (low-grade 'journalism' https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/new-earth-longzhi-apt-targets-ukraine.html

↺ https://thehackernews.com/2022/11/new-earth-longzhi-apt-targets-ukraine.html

13:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-thehackernews.com | New "Earth Longzhi" APT Targets Ukraine and Asian Countries with Custom Cobalt Strike Loaders

13:56 Techrightssec; anyway 32-bit time would be a possible topic as would be the push towards

13:56 Techrightssec; appliance computing. The lack of discussion about 32-bit time and whining

13:56 Techrightssec; at the same time about locking out end users show that the priority is not

13:56 Techrightssec; security and merely a ddistraction from their attacks on general-purpose

13:56 Techrightssec; computing.

13:56 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?


2 PM, November 14

14:00 schestowitz-TR; yes, that might be a good topic

14:00 schestowitz-TR; one thing I don't fully understand is,

14:00 schestowitz-TR; how does unix time system impact security?

14:00 schestowitz-TR; btw, spamnil still doing clickfraud, but with 11 videos in 21 days it's clear he's going nowhere and

14:00 schestowitz-TR; he knows it

14:00 schestowitz-TR; still need to understand how 32-bit systemd are a secyurity rather than invalidity/end of life issue

14:03 Techrightssec; The systems generally cannot be updated in the firmware, the whole unit must

14:03 Techrightssec; be replaced. The problem is that devices being deployed even today are

14:03 Techrightssec; still running 32-bit time.

14:04 schestowitz-TR; with today's appalling quality of engineering, I doubt many will outlast 16 yrs

14:14 schestowitz-TR; apropos, many "smart" systems depend on a clock to operate

14:14 schestowitz-TR; where no clocks should be needed at all!!

14:16 schestowitz-TR; imagine microwaves refusing to hear up because they got cracked

14:16 schestowitz-TR; smoker detectors not buzzing because they have not yet been "configured"

14:16 schestowitz-TR; or some washing machine failing due to having wrong time (not runtime but clock)

14:17 schestowitz-TR; https://dwaves.de/2022/11/14/mental-disorder-is-up-13-globally-41-up-in-germany-in-the-last-10-years-the-github-rant-good-technology-makes-efficient-but-does-not-automatically-make-good-culture-or-good-people/

↺ https://dwaves.de/2022/11/14/mental-disorder-is-up-13-globally-41-up-in-germany-in-the-last-10-years-the-github-rant-good-technology-makes-efficient-but-does-not-automatically-make-good-culture-or-good-people/

14:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- mental disorder is up +13% globally +41% up in Germany in the last 10 years the github rant -> good technology makes efficient but does not (automatically) make good culture or good people | dwaves.de

14:17 schestowitz-TR; german, we used to chat, weak english, but the ideas are spot on

14:17 schestowitz-TR; published moments ago

14:18 Techrightssec; Or dishwashers, or laundry machines, or refirgerators, or ... cars

14:25 schestowitz-TR; cars are becoming exponentially more expensive to "repair" (you cannot mess with a scre driver in silicon)

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and of course to purchase too

14:25 schestowitz-TR; as for kettles, for now we just use the hob with a large pot instead because it's reliable

14:25 schestowitz-TR; this past weekend we saw some kettles at the shop and I joked about how long they last for

14:25 schestowitz-TR; the 'unbranded' (or "poorly" branded) ones barely stand a chace of aurviving a year

14:25 schestowitz-TR; the rest maybe enough to get past the warranty day

14:25 schestowitz-TR; I don't want a pile of half a dozen "good loocking but not working) kettle every decade

14:25 schestowitz-TR; *kettles

14:25 schestowitz-TR; electric showers can be similarly awful

14:25 schestowitz-TR; plasticware

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and not easy to replace, you'd need an electrician (almost as expensive as the plasticware) to safely

14:25 schestowitz-TR; dismount and install "the next one"

14:25 schestowitz-TR; so over the past 1-2 decades I find myself protesting a lot about tech that actually left the customer

14:25 schestowitz-TR; worse off, aside from the gimmicks

14:25 schestowitz-TR; sometimes I listen to football on FM radio (1990s) because going to a Web site takes longer

14:25 schestowitz-TR; JS mess

14:25 schestowitz-TR; and is more noise than signal

14:25 schestowitz-TR; in fact, I used to have a command line program for scores, but that keeps breaking upstream and takes

14:26 schestowitz-TR; ages to work around (for a few more months before next breakage)

14:26 schestowitz-TR; "Drive thru" mentality = the biggest problem with my food is that I need to get my fat arse off the seat

14:26 schestowitz-TR; "Smart things" = if only I could connect this thing to the Net, life would improve

14:26 Techrightssec; The computers built into the car's local network appear mostly a means to

14:26 Techrightssec; increase costs and lock out independent repair shops and force buyers into

14:26 Techrightssec; maintenance subscriptions at the dealer.

14:26 Techrightssec; I think we have a studdy on the waste of space that javascript causes...

14:28 schestowitz-TR; andry dubbed this digital veganism

14:28 schestowitz-TR; I think the association with morality (animals) misses the mark a bit

14:28 schestowitz-TR; vegans get ridiculed for all sorts of things

14:28 schestowitz-TR; but avoiding shitware is about practical benefits, too

14:28 schestowitz-TR; at the pet shop yesterday we saw pig ears for sale (in the dog section)

14:28 schestowitz-TR; that upset rianne, but dogs eat meat

14:33 schestowitz-TR; ---

14:33 schestowitz-TR; free software is about ethics of hoarding, sharing, and control over people (facilitated by the former two)

14:33 schestowitz-TR; but the issue we speak of here are also about pragmatism and economics

14:33 schestowitz-TR; I think for TR to analyse and put forth helpful vocabulary would be a contribution

14:33 schestowitz-TR; andy's "digital vegan" is a metaphor

14:33 schestowitz-TR; gemini tackles many issues at once, inc. energy consumption (lots more facets)

14:33 schestowitz-TR; i hope that having more free time will let me 1) think and 2) write properly on these issues

14:33 schestowitz-TR; do you still maintain that youtube-dl-based script for cutting and featching videos from gulagtube?

14:33 schestowitz-TR; i know the swiss army knife was attacked with help from friedman/microsoft

14:33 schestowitz-TR; but for the new TR it would help if I could make shortcuts and retrieve/process/clip vidoes

14:33 schestowitz-TR; directly on the server

14:41 Techrightssec; no that script has not been maintained or worth the effort due to

14:41 Techrightssec; various problems with youtube

14:41 Techrightssec; best to try other tools to download and then once the file is stored locally

14:41 Techrightssec; hit it with ffmpeg

14:41 Techrightssec; invidious might be better in that regard

14:41 schestowitz-TR; atm I use some instances of invidious, retreieve the mp4 (it's the only option for audio+vide)

14:41 schestowitz-TR; than ffmpeg with time range

14:41 schestowitz-TR; then upload via wordpress or kio (for large files)

14:41 schestowitz-TR; the new tr can handle many short posts like tm does

14:41 schestowitz-TR; then, being able to raise issues rapidly, with static pages and maybe video clips

14:41 schestowitz-TR; would imho be not just invaluable in the pace sense

14:41 schestowitz-TR; but also more "fun"

14:41 schestowitz-TR; with wordpress I spent some time messing about with knobs such as categories

14:41 schestowitz-TR; I'm glad rianne and I no longer need to enter/select/multiselect categories

14:41 schestowitz-TR; it speeds things up

14:41 schestowitz-TR; but having some archibg and search for that site might be useful, as a future feature so to speak

14:42 schestowitz-TR; I made a full backup of /var/www/t* last night and copied the tar.gz to "bubi"

14:44 schestowitz-TR; to wit: what hurts microsoft et al the most if not new exposes or rapid posts

14:44 schestowitz-TR; but a site that stays online decade after decade

14:44 schestowitz-TR; so even "old" scandsls never go undocumented and cannot be denied in the absence of evidnece

14:44 schestowitz-TR; tuxmachines reviews go a llllooooonnnggg way back

14:44 schestowitz-TR; they show that even in 2005/6 the "desktop" was good enough compared to XP

14:44 schestowitz-TR; youtube will collapse after FB and Twitter

14:44 schestowitz-TR; the barrage of ads are suggestive of urgent call for profitability

14:57 schestowitz-TR; [14:46:48] <techrights-news> Well,, the copyright troll that tries to target techrights coverage of EPO crime now sends envelopes in the post. What next, anthrax attacks? Lawyers that do attend and copyright trolling need to be disbarred. Is the bar a "licence to blackmail"?

14:57 schestowitz-TR; [14:49:18] --> psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social

14:57 schestowitz-TR; [14:52:22] <techrights-news> According to this (source: ONS), the British population sometimes loses antibodies against COVID-19 over time. https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ons-health.ods

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/ons-health.ods

14:57 schestowitz-TR; [14:56:58] <techrights-news> UK Survey on Top Issues as Perceived by the Public https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/uk-top-issues/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/uk-top-issues/

14:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Survey on Top Issues as Perceived by the Public

14:57 schestowitz-TR; [14:56:59] [TechrightsSocial] schestowitz.com Blog Archive UK Survey on Top Issues as Perceived by the Public

14:58 Techrightssec; They seem to object more about what articles are still online rather than

14:58 Techrightssec; a whole site, in most cases. Articles critical of m$ or bill seem to

14:58 Techrightssec; have frequently disappeared from sites that are still around

14:58 Techrightssec; Though the do seem to prioritize eliminating solid, easily understood criticism

14:58 Techrightssec; backed by clear data.

14:58 schestowitz-TR; yes, crosscut deleted articles about both Microsoft and Gates after the latter had dbribed it

14:58 schestowitz-TR; *bribed


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15:09 Techrightssec; Same for many blogs as well

15:10 schestowitz-TR; ONS: More than 1 in 50 People in England Estimated to be COVID-19 Positive This Month https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/covid-19-positive/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/covid-19-positive/

15:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive ONS: More Than 1 in 50 People in England Estimated to be COVID-19 Positive This Month

15:10 schestowitz-TR; the "new normal": quite a few people nearby coughing, and not even covering the mouth

15:32 Techrightssec; Same for many blogs as well

15:32 Techrightssec; ack

15:43 schestowitz-TR; An Emergent Pandemic of Sudden Deaths in the UK (People Dying at Home) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/pandemic-of-sudden-deaths/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/pandemic-of-sudden-deaths/

15:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive An Emergent Pandemic of Sudden Deaths in the UK (People Dying at Home)

15:43 schestowitz-TR; Coronavirus (COVID-19) Deaths: Open Data as OpenDocument Format (ODF) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/ons-but-odf/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/ons-but-odf/

15:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Coronavirus (COVID-19) Deaths: Open Data as OpenDocument Format (ODF)


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16:15 Techrightssec; ack

16:15 Techrightssec; what was the summary?

16:15 Techrightssec; gemini.techrights.org/2022/11/14/pat-gelsinger-and-linus-torvalds/

16:15 schestowitz-TR; it's in the headline

16:15 schestowitz-TR; but transcript might help

16:16 schestowitz-TR; Office for National Statistics Makes It Hard to Demonstrate Increase in Heart Failures https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/office-for-national-statistics-data/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/11/14/office-for-national-statistics-data/

16:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Office for National Statistics Makes It Hard to Demonstrate Increase in Heart Failures

16:36 Techrightssec; The drive is really slow, IPFS must still be running there :/

16:36 Techrightssec; The post has kind of a bad spin on things since LT realized his mistake

16:36 Techrightssec; almost immediately and fixed the licensing right away, though he still

16:36 Techrightssec; insists on saying open source to avoid uttering the f-word

16:42 schestowitz-TR; a) ipfs is not running

16:42 schestowitz-TR; b) thanks, I for the transcript

16:42 schestowitz-TR; c) added it to www/wordpress too

16:43 Techrightssec; np

16:44 schestowitz-TR; i am still short on topics

16:44 schestowitz-TR; 8 posts in my personal blog in past day

16:44 schestowitz-TR; little in TR

16:47 Techrightssec; general-purpose computing and Freedom ?

16:47 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

16:47 Techrightssec; Linus really means the F-word when he says Open Source

16:47 Techrightssec; ^ topic ?

16:47 Techrightssec; Yes, and that intentionally created confusion can be rebutted.

16:47 Techrightssec; especially in light of his 2012 Q&A session where he emphasized that choosing

16:47 Techrightssec; the GPL for his work was the best decision he ever made *because of*

16:47 Techrightssec; the reciprocity. That was overshadowed by the M$-owned press fussing

16:47 Techrightssec; over his rightful frustration with nvidia.

16:49 schestowitz-TR; this was not 2012

16:49 schestowitz-TR; oh, maybe it was actually

16:49 schestowitz-TR; strange, I remembered it happening much later

16:52 schestowitz-TR; OTA

16:52 schestowitz-TR; I will go through the interview and remark on it

16:52 schestowitz-TR; noting the SF aspects along the way

16:52 schestowitz-TR; OTA

16:53 schestowitz-TR; in 1991 it was Free software

16:53 schestowitz-TR; he intentionally warps history

16:53 schestowitz-TR; this was not 2012

16:53 schestowitz-TR; oh, maybe it was actually

16:53 schestowitz-TR; strange, I remembered it happening much later

16:53 schestowitz-TR; OTA

16:53 schestowitz-TR; I will go through the interview and remark on it

16:53 schestowitz-TR; noting the SF aspects along the way

16:53 schestowitz-TR; OTA

16:54 Techrightssec; Yes, and that intentionally created confusion can be rebutted.

16:54 Techrightssec; especially in light of his 2012 Q&A session where he emphasized that choosing

16:54 Techrightssec; the GPL for his work was the best decision he ever made *because of*

16:54 Techrightssec; the reciprocity. That was overshadowed by the M$-owned press fussing

16:54 Techrightssec; over his rightful frustration with nvidia.

16:54 Techrightssec; It's in the TR WordPress site somewhere, many times, but can be approached

16:54 Techrightssec; from a slightly new angle based on the full Gelsinger interview with LT

16:54 Techrightssec; ack

16:54 Techrightssec; be sure to cite the 2012 comment! please!


6 PM, November 14

18:23 schestowitz-TR; going to record epo video about menopause next

18:23 schestowitz-TR; see scrollback in irc

18:23 schestowitz-TR; mastodon'community' now censors critics of bill gates

18:23 schestowitz-TR; i'm disgusted

18:23 schestowitz-TR; i guess they might borrow some straw men

18:23 schestowitz-TR; if "don't like gates" => qanon

18:23 schestowitz-TR; OTA

18:23 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: ^

18:55 Techrightssec; checking

18:55 Techrightssec; It's rather important to note that LT still refers to freedom and reciprocity

18:55 Techrightssec; despite using the phrase "open source". So while he is definitely for

18:55 Techrightssec; backing the f-word up with deeds, he remains very reluctant to say it out loud.


7 PM, November 14

19:38 schestowitz-TR; OTA

19:38 schestowitz-TR; draft


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