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beginning of new day, September 14

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3 AM, September 14

03:23 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Open-source software enables researchers to see materials in 3D while they're still on the electron microscope" https://news.umich.edu/visualizing-nanoscale-structures-in-real-time/

↺ https://news.umich.edu/visualizing-nanoscale-structures-in-real-time/

03:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.umich.edu | Visualizing nanoscale structures in real time | University of Michigan News

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6 AM, September 14

06:03 Techrights-sec; ack

06:04 schestowitz-TR2; just sent instructions to marius

06:05 schestowitz-TR2; Marius uses the automated script not the shell.

06:05 schestowitz-TR2; So which instructions?

06:05 Techrights-sec; Marius uses the automated script not the shell.

06:05 Techrights-sec; So which instructions?

06:06 schestowitz-TR2; see email

06:06 Techrights-sec; Thanks

06:09 Techrights-sec; Though the script might change since it's not considered completed.

06:10 schestowitz-TR2; yeah, i'm aware


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10 AM, September 14

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; mate, :) it's worse

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; theverge.com

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; ANY page I visit with falkan

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; becomes 500

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; lol!!!

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; good luck with billg

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; I never liked them after patel fired the person who was preparing an article for them

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; because he exposed billg

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; and then billg took over

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; so deep inside I hope they join, along with zdnet, the graveyard of sites

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; I would not miss them

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; they dn't target me

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; I'm not their audience

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; they probably only test with "smart" phones

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; ads, infinite scroll...

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; WAIT< WTF!!!!

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; the bottom links link to VOXMEDIA!

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; so theverge is vox

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; goldman sachs et al

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; very notorious

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; bottom of pages

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; "the verge is a vox mnedia network"

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; so they sold or sold out

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; or cashed in on the exit

10:16 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot even enter any article there, not with falkon anyway

10:34 Techrights-sec; ack

10:34 Techrights-sec; When did they sell to that company?

10:36 schestowitz-TR2; i wondered the exact same thing, maybe wikipedia can tell

10:36 schestowitz-TR2; maybe it has gone on for years without them declaring it

10:36 schestowitz-TR2; sort of like pia and freenode

10:37 Techrights-sec; Here's a hint: https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/4/23056898/the-verge-partners-with-vox-media-studios-and-21-laps-on-new-netflix-series

↺ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/4/23056898/the-verge-partners-with-vox-media-studios-and-21-laps-on-new-netflix-series

10:37 Techrights-sec; It's been a while though, already in 2021:

10:37 Techrights-sec; https://deadline.com/2021/12/vox-media-group-nine-to-merger-digital-consolidation-1234890285/

↺ https://deadline.com/2021/12/vox-media-group-nine-to-merger-digital-consolidation-1234890285/

10:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theverge.com | The Verge Partners with Vox Media Studios and 21 Laps on New Netflix Series - The Verge

10:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Vox Media And Group Nine Media On Verge Of Merging Amid Digital Consolidation Wave Deadline

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; same with zdnet

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; it has been complicated since cbs collapsed

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; and then another company stepped in

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; even weirder when you check out the families that own these companies

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; wikipedia is not helping much, it feels like it covers up

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; zdnet, in its own words, sells sponsored narratives

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; like the oin and lf bs

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; that's the product

10:39 schestowitz-TR2; assigned to staff writer

10:42 Techrights-sec; "Lockhart Steele, founder and C.E.O. of the Curbed Network, met Bankoff about two years ago, around the same time Vox Media acquired The Verge. Though the t

10:42 Techrights-sec; wo have "flirted" with the prospect of joining forces the timing was never right, until now that is."

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.politico.com/media/story/2013/11/with-curbed-buy-vox-media-is-done-with-acquisitions-for-a-while-001312/

↺ https://www.politico.com/media/story/2013/11/with-curbed-buy-vox-media-is-done-with-acquisitions-for-a-while-001312/

10:42 Techrights-sec; Sure kept that low-key

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-With Curbed buy, Vox Media is done with acquisitions, for a while- POLITICO Media

10:42 Techrights-sec; https://www.vox.com/2015/5/26/8663975/vox-media-recode-deal-explained

↺ https://www.vox.com/2015/5/26/8663975/vox-media-recode-deal-explained

10:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Vox Media-Re/code deal, explained by Vox Medias CEO - Vox

10:42 Techrights-sec; Re/code used to be around but faded away rather rapidly at some point.

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; I've long been in favour of boyotting billbc, billpr, and the verge

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; all compromsied by the bill, just like bill's guardian

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot stand sending them traffic, thinking about what monsters that helps support (even if not linking directly to the hagiographies and revisionism)

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; re re/code, you beat me to it

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; I was about to say the same thing you did

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; yesterday I sae ina fried (Microsoft mole) boosting LF trash, i.e. github

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft tim became a nomad, just like catalin cimpanu and bogdan popa

10:44 schestowitz-TR2; they won't be done till they sell pencil from a cup in the street

10:45 Techrights-sec; :(

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; they are actively malicious

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; with some publishers, like pro publica, they just drink from the fountain billg pisses in

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; and that makes them tainted rather than actively malicious

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; so that's the lesser problematic tier

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; now that more people know what the bill and lolita foundation is, it is important to remind people who took bribes from it

10:47 schestowitz-TR2; that's just karma

10:50 Techrights-sec; https://www.axios.com/2022/03/03/vox-media-group-nine-merger-layoffs

↺ https://www.axios.com/2022/03/03/vox-media-group-nine-merger-layoffs

10:50 Techrights-sec; anti-investment to drive de-growth towards an eventual "successful" bankruptcy

10:50 Techrights-sec; https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verge#Vox_Media_/_SB_Nation

↺ https://ultimatepopculture.fandom.com/wiki/The_Verge#Vox_Media_/_SB_Nation

10:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.axios.com | Vox Media lays off 3% of staff after Group Nine merger

10:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-ultimatepopculture.fandom.com | The Verge | Ultimate Pop Culture Wiki | Fandom

10:55 schestowitz-TR2; two common tactics (HR)

10:55 schestowitz-TR2; -reduce hours for a perios of time according to which severance if calculated, then lay off

10:56 schestowitz-TR2; -assign workers to a new (obsolete) unit, then scuttle the unit (happened in epo)

10:56 schestowitz-TR2; btw, I am failing to leave the company, no matter what I try; cannot do anything abrupt because of rianne's position

10:56 Techrights-sec; ack

10:56 Techrights-sec; https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/27/vox-media-cuts-staff-slows-down-hiring-as-recession-fears-grow.html

↺ https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/27/vox-media-cuts-staff-slows-down-hiring-as-recession-fears-grow.html

10:56 Techrights-sec; ack

10:57 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cnbc.com | Vox Media cuts staff, slows down hiring as recession fears grow


11 AM, September 14

11:00 schestowitz-TR2; maybe the new site (redesign) is a low-cost skeleton, time will tell. i cannot open any page there, they obv. lost me as a reader.

11:00 schestowitz-TR2; the new zdnet most certaionly feels like a rush job, a low-budget pull-shit-together work

11:00 schestowitz-TR2; with a logo a little child can make

11:00 schestowitz-TR2; *rushed

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11:07 Techrights-sec; https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/

↺ https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/

11:07 Techrights-sec; "best for ..."

11:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/ )

↺ https://www.capterra.com/p/179174/StoryStream/

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11:09 schestowitz-TR2; best for > optimised for > limited to

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; site might not be safe -> press many buttons to go ahead -> this site is malicious, close tab

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; the www is for tim b-l to share info -> it's to share DATA -> it's transport for DRM shit

11:09 schestowitz-TR2; wikipedia is for collaboration on info -> wikipedia is to 'guard' info from spinners -> wikipedia is for spinners to guardian brands from "harmful" facts

11:10 Techrights-sec; https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream

↺ https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream

11:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream )

↺ https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/storystream

11:10 Techrights-sec; ack

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; rip, www

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; thge casket has been ready, made by the master carpenter

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; but the www does not yet know it is there

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; it insists things will be ok if only everyone downloaded timbl's JS framwork from proprietary microsoft'nsa shithub

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; if only...

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; we meanwhile have other frameworks for interlinked pages that are safe to use and don't come with 200MB binaries

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; and can do as well as doxygen and other vital stuff

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; "due, WTF!!! I don't need your fucking FONTS to read your fucking recipe!!"

11:12 schestowitz-TR2; *dude

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11:32 Techrights-sec; ack

11:32 Techrights-sec; Which recipe site(s) push external fonts?

11:33 schestowitz-TR2; lots of the "big ones" for sure

11:33 schestowitz-TR2; the ones that think sites are always viewed like a poster with the same device and configs

11:33 schestowitz-TR2; some sites are like a PDF

11:33 schestowitz-TR2; and that too makes wrong assumption about the client device

11:34 Techrights-sec; Many CMS-based sites in general push external fonts.

11:34 Techrights-sec; The pages end up being many tens of megabytes, all told.

11:34 Techrights-sec; The Verge's new layout is "quite cleve" but basically unusable on a standard

11:34 Techrights-sec; landscape mode screen. I bet they only bothered to test it on a smartphone.

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; that is not a smart move

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; they are on the verge of driving away many readers

11:35 schestowitz-TR2; I cannot even access the site, not even with JS

11:42 Techrights-sec; It does not need javascript, as far as I know, but the abuse of CSS makes for

11:42 Techrights-sec; very agitated, distracting movement while scrolling and a miserably narrow

11:42 Techrights-sec; column for the actual content. The crap on the screen moves around despite

11:42 Techrights-sec; me not telling to explicitly. Clever is not the same as useful.

11:42 Techrights-sec; I used to be able to skim the site quickly and pick out interesting articles.

11:42 Techrights-sec; Now it is hard to see what the articles are about and what to even click on.

11:42 Techrights-sec; Usability is not a goal, very clearly. That's not a problem limited to

11:42 Techrights-sec; The Verge. Usability is so out of fashion that you can buy some of the best

11:42 Techrights-sec; books on the topic for a few EUR, including shipping. One of the thinks which

11:42 Techrights-sec; I suspect has happened is that the people who grew up with "engagement" in their

11:42 Techrights-sec; interfaces think that is how the site is best made. If it does not have RSS

11:42 Techrights-sec; I might stop checking it, since it requires too much time and effort for the

11:42 Techrights-sec; meager return it still provides.

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; too much spice spoils the broth

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; we need to start over

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; back to 90s www

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; i know the feeling

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; in 2004ish I wrote a bunch of scriptc to follow sites that did not have rss feeds (yet)

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; right now I have list of sites to check

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; for which either new rss exists or no specific-enough feeds exist, e.g. linux

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; today rianne asked about traffic in new TM

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; I told her I don't know and don't care much

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; it's not even clear what and who to measure

11:45 schestowitz-TR2; e.g. bots or x requests per page (images, css, favicon...)

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; to impress or to lie to shareholders like FB and twitter do

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; you could just double the number of objects in each page, then count "hits"

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; or you could count spiders are "active users" etc etc

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; i told you years ago that I learned from addiction until around 2006 that tracking "stats" can be a major waste of time

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; time better spent producing more instead

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; and not giving a damn about perceived "popularity"

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; it can be down-putting

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; spamnil keeps increasing spambot/clickfrauds doses to keep the same level of self-delusion/satisfaction

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; but deep inside he knows he's a fraud and utter failure

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; like many managers (inwards)

11:49 schestowitz-TR2; insecure to the poiint of bullying anyone who might expose them


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14:21 Techrights-sec; There are a lot of possible dead ends to explore still.

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; you can grab the key in roy @ tr-new or tm-new

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; it is the one I use

14:29 Techrights-sec; ok

14:29 schestowitz-TR2; ota (lf)

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3 PM, September 14

15:08 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Many of Peiter (Mudge) Zatkos former colleagues have received offers of payment for information about him." https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-search-for-dirt-on-the-twitter-whistle-blower

↺ https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-search-for-dirt-on-the-twitter-whistle-blower

15:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.newyorker.com | The Search for Dirt on the Twitter Whistle-Blower | The New Yorker

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4 PM, September 14

16:34 schestowitz-TR2; recorded, done

16:34 schestowitz-TR2; thanks, I shall take a look when I wake up later

16:34 schestowitz-TR2; need to first catch up with links to assure TM is ehad of the surve

16:35 schestowitz-TR2; *ahead of the curve

16:36 schestowitz-TR2; search functionality can later be used to check other (prior) pages for proxmity and then add "pages related to this:"

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