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IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, April 14, 2022

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1 AM, April 14

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5 AM, April 14

05:52 schestowitz; > Thanks for sharing

05:52 schestowitz; >

05:52 schestowitz; > One thing that is easy to spot: the debian.community post doesn't make

05:53 schestowitz; > comment about FLOSSK anywhere. None of the FLOSSK people are in the

05:53 schestowitz; > tartan photos. Therefore, why does FLOSSK write to you, why did nobody

05:53 schestowitz; > from Debian contact you directly?

05:53 schestowitz; >

05:53 schestowitz; > "Others are also welcome to join us there for a reasonable price."

05:53 schestowitz; >

05:53 schestowitz; > I don't think the post is about the prices.

05:53 schestowitz; >

05:53 schestowitz; > A very useful way to address any complaint. Just ask one and only one

05:53 schestowitz; > question: "When was the first complaint you received about Mr Pocock?"

05:53 schestowitz; >

05:53 schestowitz; > Let them answer that before drilling down on their concerns. Their

05:53 schestowitz; > answers will eventually be contradicted with the dates. Just as the

05:53 schestowitz; > accusation of a relationship with an intern was contradicted by evidence

05:53 schestowitz; > about who really did that.


6 AM, April 14

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7 AM, April 14

07:48 schestowitz-TR; ota

07:48 schestowitz-TR; 7169 reqs for "rms' in today's logs

07:48 schestowitz-TR; out of 41510 for webm

07:48 schestowitz-TR; I was curious as many people do access that talk already

07:52 schestowitz; =

07:52 schestowitz; https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/04/08/lat-inte-eu-infora-natcensur-i-tysthet/

↺ https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2022/04/08/lat-inte-eu-infora-natcensur-i-tysthet/

07:52 schestowitz; =

07:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-femtejuli-se.translate.goog | Lt inte EU infra ntcensur i tysthet

07:52 schestowitz; x https://www.inach.net/the-digital-services-act/

↺ https://www.inach.net/the-digital-services-act/

07:52 schestowitz; =

07:52 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.inach.net | The Digital Services Act INACH


10 AM, April 14

10:24 Techrights-sec; TR shows up high in the search results for the talk and the FSF still

10:24 Techrights-sec; has not published it anywhere , or at least no where easily found

10:25 schestowitz-TR; I mostly ignore search engine because loyal readers are a lot more important then someone clicking

10:25 schestowitz-TR; something and maybe pressing back

10:25 schestowitz-TR; yesterday you and I debated what to do about sites that become SEO spamfarms

10:25 schestowitz-TR; "Foss Linux" seems to be heading in a bad direction too


11 AM, April 14

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11:27 Techrights-sec; ack

11:27 Techrights-sec; much of the US government is porbably operated by and, certainly, on behalf of

11:27 Techrights-sec; microsofters

11:27 Techrights-sec; against the best interests of the nation

11:27 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft, Microsoft, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, Kaseya (Windows)... https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity

↺ https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity

11:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.cisa.gov | Current Activity | CISA

11:27 schestowitz-TR; /2022/04/13/cisa-adds-10-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog

11:27 schestowitz-TR; CISA must be run partly by Microsofters

11:27 schestowitz-TR; They save face and shift attention to FOSS in a negative light quite a lot

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noon, April 14

12:21 schestowitz-TR; [11:54] <techrights-news> "Training Bundle might even make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates." WTF?? https:/

12:21 schestowitz-TR; /boingboing.net/2022/04/04/six-linux-courses-that-can-take-you-from-computer-zero-to-hero-quickly.html

12:21 Techrights-sec; yes boingboing has been crap since corey left they shill M$ shift often and

12:21 Techrights-sec; loudly

12:21 Techrights-sec; "make the most novice computer user into a regular Bill Gates."

12:21 Techrights-sec; what, does it come with a complementary NAMBLA membership?

12:21 Techrights-sec; yes he probably feels burned because it was off to a good start while he

12:21 Techrights-sec; was there

12:21 Techrights-sec; They are one example of the symptom.

12:21 Techrights-sec; I guess buyouts worked for the colleges and universities and now they are turning to the reamining areas where people can self-tea

12:21 Techrights-sec; learn in spite of everything else.

12:21 Techrights-sec; s/can learn/could have learned/

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3 PM, April 14

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15:44 schestowitz-TR; draft

15:44 schestowitz-TR; my impression after a few weeks with kde neon is not all good

15:44 schestowitz-TR; I can see things I don't like as well

15:44 schestowitz-TR; it feels like "rolling release"

15:44 schestowitz-TR; and therefore I can spot some rougher edges

15:44 schestowitz-TR; maybe for a hobby guy like daemonfc it's OK

15:44 schestowitz-TR; but I end up wasting lots of time trying to 'fix' things

15:44 Techrights-sec; ack

15:44 Techrights-sec; the whole distro has to be rolling then

15:46 schestowitz-TR; it also reminds me of windows in the sens that it wants a reboot to install

15:46 schestowitz-TR; the system updates

15:46 schestowitz-TR; and does not want me to run apt-get upgrade

15:46 schestowitz-TR; this seems like a regression to me

15:46 schestowitz-TR; but I assume they want a whole new image to boot each time

15:46 schestowitz-TR; I did not research this properly

15:48 schestowitz-TR; vlc was causing some issues

15:48 schestowitz-TR; and now webcamoid

15:48 schestowitz-TR; installing updates takes a long time

15:48 schestowitz-TR; I'm OK with it as long as it's not "truly" my mkain machine

15:48 schestowitz-TR; but maybe one for storage of files

15:48 schestowitz-TR; and music, some browsing etc.

15:58 Techrights-sec; ack


4 PM, April 14

16:01 schestowitz-TR; don't get me wrong,. I put all the essensial data like email on there and usually I don't change machines

16:01 schestowitz-TR; immediately

16:01 schestowitz-TR; I still do file editing, over ssh, from the "old" machine, vonick

16:01 schestowitz-TR; I also check system error messages to assure myself nothing crazy is hapening

16:01 schestowitz-TR; that OS will soon run out of official support

16:01 schestowitz-TR; KDE neon has very cutting edge packages

16:01 Techrights-sec; ack

16:01 schestowitz-TR; I would rather records on there as the camera is of better quality

16:01 schestowitz-TR; copying across files for processing to the other machine takes only a few seconds

16:01 schestowitz-TR; about a week ago the microphone no longer worked properly

16:02 schestowitz-TR; so I set that aside and used the other one in the meantime

16:02 schestowitz-TR; after this update (read) reboot) I hope it'll be back to normal

16:02 schestowitz-TR; I wasted a lot of time trying to 'fix' it

16:11 schestowitz-TR; on the upside, this past night tuxmachines had no issues

16:11 schestowitz-TR; no downtime and the backups seem fine, I check every 12 hours

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I did not test gunzip on them

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I will do in a moment on TR

16:11 schestowitz-TR; weirdly enoughn the gzip file on archives/tm*, for yesterday, is failing

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I tried all sorts gunzip and gzip -d

16:11 schestowitz-TR; the one from a day earlier (04-12) works OK

16:11 schestowitz-TR; when extracted it is 1.62gb

16:11 schestowitz-TR; AAA

16:11 schestowitz-TR; another dump will come there soon

16:11 schestowitz-TR; I eill test it

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16:23 Techrights-sec; ok

16:38 schestowitz-TR; I still cannot fix the microphone+noisetorch, even after updates

16:38 schestowitz-TR; but maybe it can work out for the better as I want to try obs studio

16:40 Techrights-sec; I'm mostly unfamiliar with sound. I can only make the vague recommendation

16:40 Techrights-sec; to try to get each voice on a separate channel and then use Audacity or a fork

16:40 Techrights-sec; to do noise reduction.

16:40 Techrights-sec; My (mis-)understanding is that a lot of people do the audio in Audacity or a

16:40 Techrights-sec; fork and then fold that in with the video recordings using Kdenlive, after

16:40 Techrights-sec; having captured the video with OBS. Thus one of the reasons for clapping once

16:40 Techrights-sec; at the start.

16:40 Techrights-sec; That facilitates synchronizing the sound and the video.

16:42 schestowitz-TR; such a process would certainly take a lot more time

16:42 schestowitz-TR; webcamoid managed to simplify a lot of stuff

16:42 schestowitz-TR; I am not entirely sure why, just roughly when, the input

16:42 schestowitz-TR; stopped working

16:42 Techrights-sec; Yes many (nearly all) seem to have a full time production manager

16:42 Techrights-sec; The video seemed to lock up.

16:42 Techrights-sec; By the way is there a link to the official FSF arhived copy of the talk?

16:42 schestowitz-TR; which video locked up?

16:44 schestowitz-TR; I did notice that vlc was recently acting a bit odd

16:45 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/

http://techrights.org/2022/04/13/rms-libreplanet-2022-and-irc/

16:45 Techrights-sec; At least in VLC it locks up. That happens in other videos too

16:45 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Video of Richard Stallmans Belated LibrePlanet 2022 Talk (With Commentary) | Techrights

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16:52 schestowitz-TR; yes, I did notice this vlc issue recently

16:52 schestowitz-TR; maybe a week ago

16:52 schestowitz-TR; for the first time

16:52 schestowitz-TR; but in firefox and other media players it plays OK

16:52 schestowitz-TR; I'm not sure why

16:52 Techrights-sec; :/

16:52 Techrights-sec; VLC used to be best but I gather it has attracted undesireable attention from M$

16:52 Techrights-sec; or other malevolent interests

16:53 schestowitz-TR; I am nore sure if what changed was vlc, the media files, or something else

16:53 schestowitz-TR; but a few times I was mortified that recordings had gone bad

16:53 schestowitz-TR; and then I saw it was OK in other players

16:53 schestowitz-TR; I cannot recall if processing the video overcame the issue

16:58 schestowitz-TR; I've just tested some older file

16:58 schestowitz-TR; it seems like procesing or re-encoding such video solves the issue for vlc

16:58 schestowitz-TR; but I think we've seen the issue whether it's recorded on the new laptop or the new

16:58 schestowitz-TR; laptop

16:58 schestowitz-TR; this leads me to suspecting vlc might be the culprit

16:58 schestowitz-TR; today I iUN-installed vlc after installing it 2 weeks ago on the new lapto

16:58 schestowitz-TR; as it was causinf severe issues at time

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5 PM, April 14

17:11 schestowitz-TR; this is starting to look like a blessing in disguise

17:11 schestowitz-TR; the options in obs studio are a whole new level

17:11 schestowitz-TR; the file sizes are smaller

17:11 schestowitz-TR; it does noise cancellation

17:11 schestowitz-TR; filters are several

17:11 schestowitz-TR; and allows several cams all at ones

17:11 schestowitz-TR; with the screen also

17:11 schestowitz-TR; I think this is what I will use from now on

17:11 schestowitz-TR; shhhhiiiit

17:11 schestowitz-TR; but anyway, different workflow

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6 PM, April 14

18:00 schestowitz-TR; the audio mixing is very nice too

18:00 schestowitz-TR; so now the only reason for still using webcamoid is legacy i guess

18:00 schestowitz-TR; draft

18:00 schestowitz-TR; you can see the 1-min video

18:02 Techrights-sec; I've not done video editing for a very long time

18:02 Techrights-sec; ack

18:02 Techrights-sec; Maybe the draft could have a few words about the goal of the survey or the topic

18:02 schestowitz-TR; wait, are you reading the obs draft

18:04 schestowitz-TR; also notice file size

18:04 schestowitz-TR; 2.5mb for a 1-min busy video

18:04 schestowitz-TR; a

18:04 schestowitz-TR; vastly better than before

18:05 Techrights-sec; Oh. Refreshed now. I see OBS on KDE now

18:05 Techrights-sec; The text of the post ought to mention KDE Neon by name

18:05 Techrights-sec; "BS Studio" ought to be "OBS Studio

18:05 Techrights-sec; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

↺ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

18:05 Techrights-sec; Excellent

18:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Serial comma - Wikipedia

18:07 schestowitz-TR; important typo

18:07 schestowitz-TR; in terms of workflow

18:07 schestowitz-TR; it outputs to a bunch of formats di not like

18:07 schestowitz-TR; about 6 proprietary ones

18:07 schestowitz-TR; so I copy the output across, ffmpeg to convert to webm and then pipe through the usual

18:07 schestowitz-TR; algos

18:07 schestowitz-TR; thgis way the script is compatible with both PCs

18:07 Techrights-sec; Perhaps that could be annotated in the post as an advantage.

18:10 schestowitz-TR; which advantage? the formats|? File size? Webcamoid has more options

18:10 schestowitz-TR; and more liberal ones

18:10 schestowitz-TR; as a side note, for streaming it suggests using all sorts of disservices I strionglu dislike

18:10 schestowitz-TR; but we rarely have a need to stream anything

18:11 Techrights-sec; "also notice file size"

18:11 Techrights-sec; "16:44:55 bnchs; i'm pretty sure the trolls triggered them too much"

18:19 Techrights-sec; streaming is only useful in very specific contexts, nothing relevant to TR

18:19 schestowitz-TR; yes, there are risks associated with it in an env not carefully controlled

18:19 schestowitz-TR; like an actual studio

18:20 Techrights-sec; yep

18:20 Techrights-sec; a proper studio would be a prerequisite, too

18:20 Techrights-sec; an probably a better mic

18:20 schestowitz-TR; since you have mentioned it, I am going to weak the mic

18:21 Techrights-sec; I bet there are good used mics around now that those that tried and gave up

18:21 Techrights-sec; on vlogging plous those that found they wanted even fancier during the pandemic

18:21 Techrights-sec; have made their decisions

18:27 schestowitz-TR; this evening's tm backup went o

18:27 schestowitz-TR; jk gunzipping now

18:27 schestowitz-TR; yes, looks good

18:27 schestowitz-TR; 1.69gb

18:27 schestowitz-TR; the new few days I will focus a lot on patenbts

18:27 schestowitz-TR; i will also recover from lack of sleep and am about to mess around with obs studio

18:27 schestowitz-TR; it has ALOOOOT of funcionality

18:27 Techrights-sec; excellent

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7 PM, April 14

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