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2 AM, February 14

02:13 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625296946691981312#m

↺ https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625296946691981312#m

02:13 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues There used to be a "lets remove google from foss" thread where I had to mention techrights." | La Contre-Voie - nitter

↺ https://wiki.debian.org/PrivacyIssues

02:14 schestowitz-TR2; https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625298399934435333#m

↺ https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/yuhong2/status/1625298399934435333#m

02:14 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.lacontrevoie.fr | Yuhong Bao (@yuhong2): "Part of the reason I paid attention to @MarginaliaNu is the hardware issues it shows." | La Contre-Voie - nitter

02:17 schestowitz-TR2; "Joensuu's employment services chief says she thinks that employers still have unnecessary prejudices against hiring immigrants." https://yle.fi/a/74-20017683

↺ https://yle.fi/a/74-20017683

02:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yle.fi | Foreigners' Finnish skills considered a bigger obstacle than they really are, city official says | News | Yle Uutiset

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3 AM, February 14

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; k00k:

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; Re: Quotations from Chairman Mao

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > The richest source if power to wage war lies in the masses of the

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > people. The imperialists are bullying us in such a way that we will have

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > to deal with them seriously.

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > Considering the revolutionary war as a whole, the operations of the

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > peoples Guerillas and those of the main forces of the Kuomintang,

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > compliment each other like a mans right arm and left arm.

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > Unquestionable victory in or defeat in War is determined mainly by the

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > masses, of Political, Economical and Natural conditions on all sides.

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > The Object of War is Specifically to preserve oneself and destroy the enemy.

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > So in hindsight, why are we supposedly helping U.S & European Union

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > imperialism?

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > Have you read the quotes from Mr Shwab of the WEF? "Pedophilia is

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > Nature's Gift to Children!" according to him. Yet surely if Mr Shwab

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > lived in China where 70 Billion ARM devices where sold, he would already

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > be hanging for his pediatric and dim view by the neck on public display!

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; >

03:48 schestowitz[TR2]; > Best wishes


4 AM, February 14

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5 AM, February 14

05:00 schestowitz-pi; broke glass bowl in kitchen, seconde incident in two monrings, but this damage is not expensive,

05:00 schestowitz-pi; it mostly wastes timr

05:00 schestowitz-pi; *time

05:12 schestowitz-pi; had lots to paste here yesterday (links) and some stuff to say, but worried scrollback would be

05:12 schestowitz-pi; exceeded

05:12 schestowitz-pi; anyway, that was not too important

05:12 schestowitz-pi; i have lots of time to watch the news more widely than before and go beyond foss

05:12 schestowitz-pi; i tried the version 7 of the script and I got the "~" issue again

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05:15 schestowitz-pi; saw lots of "good" news so far since 11pm rise

05:15 schestowitz-pi; when i say "good" these days it often means something bad for epople or companies that I strongly dislike

05:15 schestowitz-pi; at 10am today I want to observe ONS number

05:15 schestowitz-pi; I had some ;''throwaway' datasheets on my old drive before it crashed

05:15 schestowitz-pi; it might thus be a little tricky to quickly generate the same kind of analysis

05:15 schestowitz-pi; but i don't mind

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05:15 schestowitz-pi; if I minded those lost files, I'd back them up more often

05:15 schestowitz-pi; a "bomb" (shell) may soon drop on epo

05:15 schestowitz-pi; major scandal

05:15 schestowitz-pi; working on graphics

05:15 schestowitz-pi; btw, your february and ours feels almost like spring, can't complain..

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6 AM, February 14

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06:33 schestowitz-pi; near the top the feeds are more sparsely populated

06:33 schestowitz-pi; but pgup/down helps


8 AM, February 14

08:06 schestowitz-pi; one good thing about being unhinged, unlocked, off the rails of a gui

08:06 schestowitz-pi; and doing your own code is that it is easily extensible

08:06 schestowitz-pi; no need to lobbyp "upstream"

08:06 schestowitz-pi; but now, having been deatched from quiterss, i already think how to use heuristics

08:06 schestowitz-pi; limited to gui (like filtering by words) to script things and cluster related topics

08:06 schestowitz-pi; algorithmically

08:06 schestowitz-pi; we already manage toi post far more links per day

08:06 schestowitz-pi; (btw, just got back, catching up a bit)

08:06 techrights[sec]; In the last 15 years lobbying upstream, even when providing sampe code, is

08:06 techrights[sec]; a waste of time.

08:06 techrights[sec]; I suppose something with a GUI could be built out aspects of the feed reader

08:06 techrights[sec]; script, but it's not a high return on effort until there are more reasons to

08:06 techrights[sec]; learn PyQt and such.

08:09 schestowitz-pi; i'm quite good at guis and used many frameworks

08:09 schestowitz-pi; but would rather not rush to gui-fy things as there is a maintenance overhead

08:09 schestowitz-pi; when new versions come out

08:09 schestowitz-pi; not good roi

08:09 schestowitz-pi; my matlab/octave gui stuff had me ranked #1 in the world around 2004 or 2005

08:09 schestowitz-pi; gui fetishes are a 90s thing

08:09 schestowitz-pi; i think due to many people m,ovined from doses to various windowing things

08:09 schestowitz-pi; and it was "all the rage"

08:12 techrights[sec]; the only area a GUI /might/ help is being able to edit the OPML entry inside

08:12 techrights[sec]; the interface. Because the UI is currently a web page, that is to possible at

08:12 techrights[sec]; the moment.

08:13 schestowitz-pi; it's easy enough for me with nano and kate

08:13 schestowitz-pi; the latter is a GUI

08:13 schestowitz-pi; but sure, it does not do editing per se

08:13 schestowitz-pi; not in the beyond-nesting level

08:13 schestowitz-pi; there are xml and opml general-purpose editors

08:13 schestowitz-pi; no need to make antoher one ;-)

08:21 techrights[sec]; Exactly.

08:22 schestowitz-pi; wow, this toolset is really awesome, wish we had done this years ago

08:22 schestowitz-pi; but did not until the crash

08:22 schestowitz-pi; i already knew I was not efficient because the workflow felt wrong

08:22 schestowitz-pi; lots of clicking and copying, where the actions were repetitive

08:24 schestowitz-pi; all i really needed was 1) overview, 2) no text, 3) consistent format

08:24 schestowitz-pi; overview as in, let's see what's new atm

08:24 schestowitz-pi; btw, phoronix can barely produce even one headline worth clicking in per day now

08:24 schestowitz-pi; a lot is just some kernel patches that don't matter much

08:24 schestowitz-pi; due to over-emphasising quotas

08:26 techrights[sec]; It's all about finding which parts of the workflow cann be offloaded onto

08:26 techrights[sec]; scripts and about tuning the workflow to facilitate that while still getting

08:26 techrights[sec]; revelvant tasks done.

08:26 techrights[sec]; Too much clicking is always a bad sign even if some people enjoy it and

08:26 techrights[sec]; find it addictive^Wengaging.

08:26 techrights[sec]; Body text could be added as per the automated feeds but I think that would

08:26 techrights[sec]; add very little to no value. I've only checked two or three Phoronix articles

08:26 techrights[sec]; in recent months and they were really more like blurbs than posts or articles.

08:26 techrights[sec]; Given Michael's great work in the past, I feel bad for the situation he is in

08:28 schestowitz-pi; he still does benchmarks, but a lot of the rest is to generate "clicks" and get people to

08:28 schestowitz-pi; see the ads, which are most of each page

08:28 schestowitz-pi; i meant above to seay "no images", not "no text"

08:28 schestowitz-pi; very seldom do images become really essential to what I am reading

08:28 schestowitz-pi; esp. in technical domains

08:28 schestowitz-pi; like some photo of a politician

08:28 schestowitz-pi; adds nothing

08:28 schestowitz-pi; regarding outlines, at the moment I offload the html using my script, so use the two

08:28 schestowitz-pi; tools in parallel

08:28 schestowitz-pi; i am dump mine into /tmp in 2 mins

08:32 schestowitz-pi; two files just added to /tmp

08:32 schestowitz-pi; exmplifying the dirty script/hack

08:32 schestowitz-pi; and its output that I then use

08:32 schestowitz-pi; some feeds, like france24, are neat because they're providing just enough text, not badly

08:32 schestowitz-pi; tranculated, and there no ?tracking-junk trailing the url (i manually remove those)

08:32 schestowitz-pi; so I can read, categorise, post to irc and my backup at the site schestowitz.com while it gets added

08:32 schestowitz-pi; to Daily Llinks

08:33 schestowitz-pi; *truncated, not sure why I typed that strange word

08:33 schestowitz-pi; muscle memory I guess

08:33 techrights[sec]; Is body text needed? I figure it would be probably be hidden by a click and

08:33 techrights[sec]; if a click is needed it might as well bring up the full web page in the browser

08:35 schestowitz-pi; regarding body text, is there a "hidden" property for blockquote?

08:35 schestowitz-pi; or some other approach?

08:35 schestowitz-pi; so that it appears in the html file but not in the browser

08:35 schestowitz-pi; the context is very unpredictale, varies from site to site

08:45 schestowitz-pi; out of curiousity, and i rarely do such stuff, i checked how many requests per week for the Daily Links fish thi

08:45 schestowitz-pi; ngie (over html/SOME RSS clients but not all, def. not gemini), it says 35k-40k

08:45 schestowitz-pi; i.e. 5k+ a day

08:45 schestowitz-pi; checking image requests helps count out bots, spiders, and passive readers over the full text rss

08:45 schestowitz-pi; feed (we give everything in rss, as some people demand to read it this way and it is more

08:45 schestowitz-pi; convenient if you can afford the b/w)

08:45 schestowitz-pi; apachelog says every 5 mins about 200 reqs for the TR RSS feed

08:45 schestowitz-pi; so if you assume people poll once a day that can be a lot

08:46 schestowitz-pi; i think that, all in all, Daily Links are actually the most useful contribution of the site

08:46 schestowitz-pi; or so I was told

08:46 schestowitz-pi; i know several foss sites that tried to copy it but gave up as they cannot do it as well

08:46 techrights[sec]; I'm not sure how many feed readers are broken though

08:49 schestowitz-pi; yeah, these metrics are not reliable and should not matter much

08:49 schestowitz-pi; back in 2004ish I was getting obsessed with site traffic

08:49 schestowitz-pi; to the point where I spent too much time worrying about it

08:49 schestowitz-pi; 5 mins ago it said 100+ requests for the linux-china webm files were made in <5 mins

08:49 schestowitz-pi; those are not likely to be bots

08:49 schestowitz-pi; i was surprised to see 50k reqs for videos per week

08:49 schestowitz-pi; if you go to google.com

08:49 schestowitz-pi; press video

08:49 schestowitz-pi; search for linux stuff

08:49 schestowitz-pi; techrights is listed there and ranked well

08:55 schestowitz-pi; i feel sort of bad for people who still think Google/YouTube as a shim between their audience is safe

08:55 schestowitz-pi; or twitter "followers" instead of direct access to rss feeds

08:55 schestowitz-pi; our rss address has been the same for almost 17 years

08:55 schestowitz-pi; companies don't last this long, ot the urls don't (feedBURNER)

08:55 schestowitz-pi; anyway, sorry i i rammble on too much. i left my employer at the right time, we can not fortify what

08:55 schestowitz-pi; we have and imprrrrrrrrrrrrove it (oops, that's barrier and loggy network)

08:55 schestowitz-pi; *laggy

08:55 schestowitz-pi; high latency can result in keystroke sent several times

08:55 schestowitz-pi; i use ytalk over the raspi400

08:55 schestowitz-pi; it connected over ssh to vonick, which in turns connected to ssh

08:55 schestowitz-pi; *is connected

08:55 schestowitz-pi; and then vonick runs barrier over two machines, to reach 'itself'

08:55 schestowitz-pi; barrier would 'skip' or 'bypass' the machine in the middle if it cannot be reached

08:55 schestowitz-pi; but i spent an hour yesterday trying to debug a separate issue with the two barrier handles screen

08:55 schestowitz-pi; edges and corner for screen spaces that are of very diferent shape

08:55 schestowitz-pi; synergy does not seem to have this problem, but nothing is perfect, i timed out and gave up


9 AM, February 14

09:00 schestowitz-pi; the monthly cost of pc+external screen is low compared to the "worth" of time

09:00 schestowitz-pi; i dim down more these days, or physically switch off when afk

09:01 schestowitz-pi; distributing the processes a<cross machine can be done in a way that makes it robust to one machine

09:01 schestowitz-pi; losing the connection or rebooting

09:01 schestowitz-pi; for important open files we have the pi back up to external 3tb drive each morning

09:01 schestowitz-pi; and keep a stack going back a few days, in case removery from older scnapshot is needed

09:01 schestowitz-pi; the files are accessed over ssh, so there is also a corresponding working file in /tmp or ram

09:01 schestowitz-pi; i started doing it this way 12 months ago when vonick alerted about the ssd

09:01 schestowitz-pi; it seems like good practice in general, two working copies always on two machines

09:01 schestowitz-pi; just need to seperate the files that barely change (infrequent backups) and those that change

09:01 schestowitz-pi; all day long

09:01 schestowitz-pi; anf files you don't mind losing, e.g. browser history, images you already uploaded to a site etc./

09:06 techrights[sec]; Rsync can do incremental backup with --link-dest

09:08 schestowitz-pi; i prefer what i call "stacks" and iirc amazon calls "Glacier(TM)"

09:08 schestowitz-pi; since 2004ish

09:08 schestowitz-pi; so that in case I mess up something I can go back in time

09:08 schestowitz-pi; p[redating zfs and btrfs in linux

09:08 schestowitz-pi; also, if you use the don't delet option in rsync (or vice vers)

09:08 schestowitz-pi; then you're left with lots of cruft

09:08 schestowitz-pi; rather than a mirror

09:16 techrights[sec]; Yes, periodic use of the --delete option is essential.

09:17 schestowitz-pi; seems like a neat workaround

09:17 schestowitz-pi; to embrace of file systems that are complex

09:17 schestowitz-pi; i will take a look.....

09:44 schestowitz-pi;

09:44 schestowitz-pi; sometimes the mumble monitoring picks up or scans a scanner

09:44 schestowitz-pi; just now some ip from a block in bulgaria (it seems)

09:44 schestowitz-pi; tried some parts above 60000

09:44 schestowitz-pi; *ports


10 AM, February 14

10:06 techrights[sec];

10:06 techrights[sec]; Scanners run all the time against many ports

10:06 techrights[sec];

10:27 schestowitz-TR2; So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019 https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/02/14/30-percent-death-increase/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/02/14/30-percent-death-increase/

10:27 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive So Far This Year 75,717 Deaths in England and Wales, Compared to 58,461 in the Same Period in 2019


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noon, February 14

12:02 schestowitz-pi; pandemic is over

12:02 schestowitz-pi; back to work, folks

12:02 schestowitz-pi; good luck

12:02 schestowitz-TR2; "persistently sad or hopeless" https://www.plenglish.com/news/2023/02/13/cdc-says-teen-girls-report-record-levels-of-violence-suicide-risk/ | Source: La Prensa Latina

↺ https://www.plenglish.com/news/2023/02/13/cdc-says-teen-girls-report-record-levels-of-violence-suicide-risk/

12:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.plenglish.com | CDC says teen girls report record levels of violence, suicide risk - Prensa Latina

12:07 techrights[sec];

12:07 techrights[sec]; They are affected worst by social control media.

12:08 schestowitz-pi; make-up cannot compete with instagram

12:08 schestowitz-pi; so they will always feel ugly

12:16 techrights[sec]; Not to mention the destructive messages brought to the non-mainland Chinese

12:16 techrights[sec]; targets by ByteDance.

12:28 schestowitz-pi; idg says microsoft faces "slowing growth"

12:29 schestowitz-pi; i didn't know firing 25k staff is "growth"

12:29 schestowitz-pi; then again, i didn't know ComputerWorld News is noise

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12:49 techrights[sec]; g other that growth cannot be

12:49 techrights[sec]; mentioned. Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growth

12:49 techrights[sec]; than expect" or some other nonsense.

12:49 techrights[sec]; "growth" has become so sacred to MBAs that anything other that growth cannot be

12:49 techrights[sec]; mentioned. Thus collapse is even labelled as "slowing growth" or "less growth

12:49 techrights[sec]; than expect" or some other nonsense.

12:49 schestowitz-pi; in 1945 the soviets entered berlin

12:50 schestowitz-pi; hitler experienced "slowing growth" and shot himself

12:50 schestowitz-pi; alwaysd wanting morer and never is "enough" is a mental condition

12:50 schestowitz-pi; even putin might have it and biden pumps up the war budget

12:50 schestowitz-pi; so it seems those people run the world

12:50 schestowitz-pi; they always want more

12:50 schestowitz-pi; more salary, higher position

12:50 schestowitz-pi; "vicious cycle"


1 PM, February 14

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13:58 schestowitz-TR2; Two completely different things https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/eff-backs-california-bill-protect-people-seeking-abortion-and-gender-affirming | Source: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/02/eff-backs-california-bill-protect-people-seeking-abortion-and-gender-affirming

13:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFF Backs California Bill to Protect People Seeking Abortion and Gender-Affirming Care from Dragnet Digital Surveillance | Electronic Frontier Foundation

13:59 techrightssec; Yes, they're working to marginalize a mainsteam topic by coupling it to

13:59 techrightssec; other completely unrelated divisive. It's done on purpose.


2 PM, February 14

14:00 schestowitz-pi; EFF afaic remember focused on the core issues back in the novell days

14:00 schestowitz-pi; nothing about abortion and such

14:00 schestowitz-pi; that's ACLU

14:00 schestowitz-pi; EFF and ACLU do collaborate on overlapping issues at times

14:01 techrights[sec]; Collaboration is fine and at times useful. However, the core issues need to

14:01 techrights[sec]; be in the forefront 100% of the tine,

14:01 techrights[sec]; s/tine/time

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3 PM, February 14

15:59 schestowitz-pi; unstable troublemaker in sheep clothing


4 PM, February 14

16:04 schestowitz-pi; 'back' now from in-house valentine's

16:04 schestowitz-pi; cards, gifts, other special things

16:04 schestowitz-pi; i can't believe in 2023 we're still 30% more deaths than 2019

16:04 schestowitz-pi; and the media does not mention this

16:05 schestowitz-pi; we joked just not about what we could do "out" and not just the cost

16:05 schestowitz-pi; but the risk associated

16:06 techrights[sec]; The media does not mention deaths here either

16:06 techrights[sec]; though they are many

16:43 schestowitz-pi; soon they will call people with masks on "snobs", nuns, paranoid, "criminals"

16:43 schestowitz-pi; i.e. the opposite of what it was in 20202

16:43 schestowitz-pi; policies not consistent wrt the data/evidence

16:43 schestowitz-pi; it's like a "fashion"

16:43 schestowitz-pi; now wearing them is "out of fashion"

16:46 schestowitz-pi; headsup: don't expect manyn links/articles today, i prioritise being a decent person/husband and today is 14/2

16:48 schestowitz-pi; to guys it might be a mostly normal day, but to women it is not

16:48 schestowitz-pi; partly because of peers and brain

16:50 schestowitz-TR2; COVID-19 vaccines we have at the moment suck anyway. Efficacy far too low. Cheap to make (bar patent cartel/thicket), cause illness, don't offer sufficient protection. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Sweden-Discards-8.5-Million-Doses-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-20230213-0018.html

↺ https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Sweden-Discards-8.5-Million-Doses-of-COVID-19-Vaccines-20230213-0018.html

16:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.telesurenglish.net | Sweden Discards 8.5 Million Doses of COVID-19 Vaccines | News | teleSUR English

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; Lesson of the story: do NOT PRE-order junk. Certainly don't pay x100 times the production costs because of a patent collusion and DO NOT do all this under/with secret clauses at taxpayers' expense. They won't be happy about it.

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16:57 schestowitz-TR2; the-scientist.com running "sponsored-article"[s] (spam/ads). We remember when the site had some dignity and quality. Sadly, a lot of journals went down the same path/route, even took bribes from Bill Gates to do a 180, instead of condemning his anti-health push -- as they once they -- they'd run puff pieces for him (yes, even Lancet!!!)

16:57 schestowitz-TR2; the-scientist.com is, at this moment, 66% SPAM ("sponsored article"") and 3% "opinion" (yes, opinion, not reporting). it'll probably be offline in a few years. sold out.

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