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2 AM, December 13

02:12 schestowitz-TR; as of one hour ago, lunduke is uploading his old videos to youtube.... en masse


5 AM, December 13

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7 AM, December 13

07:00 techrightssec2; :(

07:00 techrightssec2; I suppose many will be demonetized en masse for having the cheek to contain

07:00 techrightssec2; the string "Linux" in the title.

07:13 schestowitz-TR; I wonder how that happened

07:13 schestowitz-TR; and I did not even notice

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8 AM, December 13

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08:35 psydruid; Is that because Google wants people to use ChromeOS over GNU/Linux?

08:35 psydruid; And rather Windows or macOS over GNU/Linux too?

08:35 psydruid; Because big money loves other big money?

08:36 techrightssec2; maybe the authorities don't want "too many" people to control their PCs and their files

08:36 techrightssec2; use clown storage

08:36 techrightssec2; no kodi

08:36 techrightssec2; embrace DRMa

08:36 techrightssec2; and make sure all people are empty vessels, "consumers" in socially CONTROLLED "media"

08:45 psydruid; It's not going to work in the end

08:46 psydruid; But the irony is that all the hardware that gives people the freedom they used to have comes out of China these days

08:46 psydruid; As in both chips and boards


9 AM, December 13

09:03 schestowitz-TR; in many aspects, china has been world leader for years

09:03 schestowitz-TR; even financially it has been getting there

09:03 schestowitz-TR; us likes to fake the worth of its companies and "markets"

09:03 schestowitz-TR; while some people buy $50m homes

09:03 schestowitz-TR; yards away from trailer parks

09:04 schestowitz-TR; of people who barely survive and die from simple diseases

09:04 schestowitz-TR; in terms of military, russia can take on usa already

09:04 schestowitz-TR; but only if it brings out the nukes

09:04 schestowitz-TR; same for chin

09:04 schestowitz-TR; *china


10 AM, December 13

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10:30 psydruid; the megalomania of M$ has no bounds

10:30 psydruid; I don't know of any other company in IT that wants to be everything to everyone

10:30 psydruid; except for the rest of MAGMA

10:31 psydruid; as if the world will come crashing down if they don't dominate everything

10:31 psydruid; or at least try to

10:43 schestowitz-TR; MAGMA :-)

10:43 schestowitz-TR; I saw others using it

10:44 schestowitz-TR; but you coined it

10:44 schestowitz-TR; afaik

10:58 psydruid; I did


11 AM, December 13

11:02 schestowitz-TR; GAFAM was made up by me and Assange

11:03 schestowitz-TR; after some stupid european politicians said "GAFA"

11:18 psydruid; with all these breaches and ransomware attacks you wonder for how long M$ will stay entrenched

11:19 psydruid; any other company with their track record would have gone out of business a long time ago

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noon, December 13

12:00 techrightssec2; There has been yet another corruption scandal in the EU Parliament.

12:00 techrightssec2; Considering that corruption is yet another threat to actual democracy,

12:00 techrightssec2; the same could be said of the corruption coming from and via the European

12:00 techrightssec2; Patent Office.

12:00 schestowitz-TR; germany will defend it regardless

12:00 schestowitz-TR; cash cow and all

12:01 techrightssec2; Yes, Germany's involvment there and its entanglement with M$ is part of the

12:01 techrightssec2; corruption pattern.

12:02 schestowitz-TR; one word: munich

12:02 schestowitz-TR; they even play off berlin bs munich

12:02 schestowitz-TR; as hq

12:02 schestowitz-TR; apropos bribes, see my latest 3 posts in TR

12:02 schestowitz-TR; very dodgy

12:02 techrightssec2; One point to remember is that m$, and thus perhaps sw patents, is not a matter

12:02 techrightssec2; of technical decisions, but one of political decisions and specifically about

12:02 techrightssec2; control and surveillance a la CIA and NSA.

12:02 techrightssec2; checking

12:04 techrightssec2; gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/13/sirius-open-source-or-foxconn/

12:04 techrightssec2; gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/12/era-of-virtual-company/

12:04 techrightssec2; gemini.techrights.org/2022/12/12/sirius-open-source-living-wage/

12:04 techrightssec2; ?

12:04 schestowitz-TR; yes, the text should be sufficient

12:06 schestowitz-TR; people who point out espionage aspects of "clown" computing are subjected to name-calling

12:06 schestowitz-TR; even if they have a phd and a long track record researching this

12:07 schestowitz-TR; also a former colleagu, treated similarly

12:07 schestowitz-TR; along with his german partner

12:07 schestowitz-TR; circa 2012

12:07 schestowitz-TR; he knoew about echelon and all

12:07 schestowitz-TR; that was before nsa leaks and back when clown computing was still young

12:08 techrightssec2; Yep, ad hominen works despite being a logical fallacy, that's why microsoft's

12:08 techrightssec2; own Lennart Poettering used it as a backup to the appeal to novelty fallacy.

12:08 techrightssec2; He had nothing to offer except logical fallacies in regards to systemd.

12:09 mjg59_; Microsoft's actually at the forefront of making it possible to use Azure without having to trust Microsoft

12:09 schestowitz-TR; lol

12:09 schestowitz-TR; in my reading lists I still have some PDFs

12:10 schestowitz-TR; but rarely a time to reopen, for now...

12:10 schestowitz-TR; I still have 60,000+ unread comments in joindiaspora

12:10 schestowitz-TR; in my email box (no need for the site to be online

12:10 schestowitz-TR; social control media is like that

12:10 schestowitz-TR; so anyway, I still have some WBer story about companies that cancel people as a service

12:10 schestowitz-TR; but no hard evidence or material

12:10 schestowitz-TR; just word of mouth from insider

12:19 psydruid; Microsoft is at the forefront of stealing your data from Azure and using it for advertising

12:23 schestowitz-TR; Microsoft is at the forefront of hiring phonies to do marketing for them

12:23 schestowitz-TR; 'secure' boot

12:23 schestowitz-TR; 'confidential' computing

12:23 schestowitz-TR; pluton

12:23 schestowitz-TR; azuresurveillance

12:23 schestowitz-TR; asurveillance :-)

12:24 schestowitz-TR; DoD: give MOAR money to MSFT

12:24 schestowitz-TR; we LOVE this data-harvesting

12:24 schestowitz-TR; also pop a 10,000,000,000 dollar bailout to Jeff bezos... as gratitude for "Alexa"

12:25 mjg59_; The entire point of this technology is that Microsoft (and anyone else who implements it) provides a service that they have no insight into

12:25 mjg59_; I do understand scepticism of that! But it would help a great deal if you could express that through technical criticism

12:26 schestowitz-TR; if I didn't know you since a decade ago, I'd say we have a Microsoft shill in IRC now

12:26 mjg59_; Google and Amazon are in the process of deploying the same tech

12:26 schestowitz-TR; two heads of the same HYDRA(TM)

12:26 mjg59_; It's not a Microsoft-only thing, they're just ahead in terms of implementation atm

12:26 mjg59_; But anyone else could build the same

12:27 schestowitz-TR; I'm sure you'll promote illusion of "privacy" for them

12:27 schestowitz-TR; because you did this before

12:27 schestowitz-TR; and the media will go rah rah about clown "savings"

12:27 schestowitz-TR; and "confidentiality"

12:27 mjg59_; AMD's SEV allows the creation of VMs that are secured by encryption keys that exist only in the CPU, not even visible to the hypervisor

12:27 schestowitz-TR; "give us all your national health and patient records next"

12:27 schestowitz-TR; GAFAM, Oracle, IBM

12:27 mjg59_; The contents of RAM are encrypted, the hypervisor can only see the encrypted content

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you do not see the machines

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you do not control the machines

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you do not own the machine

12:28 mjg59_; And there's an attestation path that allows you to prove that they're in this state

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you have NO control over what they do

12:28 mjg59_; So no, you don't see them, control them or own them

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you do

12:28 schestowitz-TR; for medical data for sure

12:28 schestowitz-TR; anyway, I'm out

12:28 schestowitz-TR; this is going nowhere

12:28 schestowitz-TR; you promote NSA talking points

12:29 mjg59_; But if your VM attests to being in this state, the cloud provider has no ability to do anything to your VM other than just stop it running

12:29 mjg59_; They can't see the data in it

12:29 mjg59_; I'd recommend reading the spec! It's kind of complicated but worthwhile

12:31 mjg59_; You still need to trust AMD, but that would be true if you had AMD servers of your own

12:37 schestowitz-TR; lol, home office seems to have opened duplicate files

12:37 schestowitz-TR; not just double-charged

12:38 schestowitz-TR; if they don't get very basic things right, then can you trust them for more critical things

12:38 schestowitz-TR; like brexit or war politics?

12:38 techrightssec2; Is there a volume discount? :)

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12:39 schestowitz-TR; a month late they corrected the charging error

12:39 schestowitz-TR; but only after some nagging from lawyer

12:39 schestowitz-TR; "coalition of chaos" :)

12:40 techrightssec2; ack

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2 PM, December 13

14:16 schestowitz-TR; techdirt spreading lies for Apple: "Apple has always been a market leader in user security." Huh??? Apple = NSA P

14:16 schestowitz-TR; RISM and more. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/12/apple-angers-fbi-by-offering-more-privacy-and-security-to-us

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/12/12/apple-angers-fbi-by-offering-more-privacy-and-security-to-us

14:16 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Apple Angers FBI By Offering More Privacy And Security To Users | Techdirt

14:16 schestowitz-TR; ers/ | Source: Techdirt

14:16 techrightssec2; ack

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4 PM, December 13

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7 PM, December 13

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8 PM, December 13

20:24 schestowitz-TR; Long COVID Impacting Several Millions of Brits https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/long-covid-uk/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/long-covid-uk/

20:24 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Long COVID Impacting Several Millions of Brits

20:40 schestowitz-TR; England and Wales Deaths in December 11.2% Higher in 2022 Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/post-covid-deaths-in-december/

↺ https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/13/post-covid-deaths-in-december/

20:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive England and Wales Deaths in December 11.2% Higher in 2022 Than Pre-COVID-19 Levels


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