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07:37 schestowitz; [22:53] <schestowitz> I'll put that in my todo list

07:37 schestowitz; [22:55] <Source> Do you ever get picked up by larger outlets?

07:37 schestowitz; [22:55] <schestowitz> yes

07:37 schestowitz; [22:55] <schestowitz> what's "left" of them

07:37 schestowitz; [22:55] <schestowitz> they're largely compromised

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <Source> I just found you by googling Nat Friedman Richard Stallman

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <Source> or DuckDuckGo

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> we're large enough on our own

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> DDG is no good

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> don't use DDG

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> it's spying by Nat's company

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/

http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> and xxxx's company

07:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> hosted by Microsoft

07:37 schestowitz; [22:56] <schestowitz> queries Microsoft server

07:37 schestowitz; [22:57] <Source> well fuck lol

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <schestowitz> techrights is about 40,000 pages

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <schestowitz> not counting many documents

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <Source> what's the audience like?

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <schestowitz> and we have copies served from my home server too as a backup against censors

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <schestowitz> the audience is a mix

07:37 schestowitz; [22:58] <schestowitz> patents, free software, ethics...

07:37 schestowitz; [22:59] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza

http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza

07:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza - Techrights

07:37 schestowitz; [23:00] <Source> yeah... so I briefly worked with some former NSA people

07:37 schestowitz; [23:01] <Source> one of them said that people working at the NSA get tired of being restricted by federal law

07:38 schestowitz; [23:01] <schestowitz> one such person did an interview with me years agoi

07:38 schestowitz; [23:01] <schestowitz> he died a year later (not related)

07:38 schestowitz; [23:01] <schestowitz> he only told me on the call that he had worked there

07:38 schestowitz; [23:01] <schestowitz> he used to run linux.com and maybe slashdot too

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <schestowitz>

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <Source> techinquiry.org/

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <schestowitz>

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <Source> you have this right? another journalist sent me that

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <schestowitz> http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/

http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/paul-cormier-hortonworks/

07:44 schestowitz; [23:03] <Source> yeah, Elastic has Endgame now

07:44 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Red Hats CEO is Still Connected to the NSA Through the Hortonworks Board | Techrights

07:44 schestowitz; [23:04] <Source> there's lots of stuff about them working with the NSA on their website

07:44 schestowitz; [23:04] <Source> I don't know if there's any backdoors in their open source stuff

07:44 schestowitz; [23:04] <Source> but probably.

07:44 schestowitz; [23:04] <schestowitz> nobody checks the binaries

07:44 schestowitz; [23:04] <schestowitz> among other issues

07:50 schestowitz; [23:06] <Source> https://www.linkedin.com/in/naytri-shroff-a6872516/

↺ https://www.linkedin.com/in/naytri-shroff-a6872516/

07:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 999 @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/naytri-shroff-a6872516/ )

↺ https://www.linkedin.com/in/naytri-shroff-a6872516/

07:50 schestowitz; [23:06] <Source> or Chief of Staff

07:50 schestowitz; [23:06] <schestowitz> wow

07:50 schestowitz; [23:06] <schestowitz> she worked for Palantir?

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <Source> 3.5 years

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <schestowitz> wow

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <Source> Title Chief of Staff to Global Head of Business Development

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <Source> at Palantir

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <schestowitz> wow

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <schestowitz> didn't know

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <Source> Alex also mentioned some friend of theirs that was an early employee at Palantir

07:50 schestowitz; [23:07] <Source> never got a name

07:50 schestowitz; [23:08] <Source> told me he lives in Tarrytown and gave his wife a million dollars and she left him

07:50 schestowitz; [23:08] <schestowitz> a name would help if you can find

07:50 schestowitz; [23:08] <Source> and he was selling his house

07:50 schestowitz; [23:08] <Source> yeah, I tried to figure it out, but people like that are usually offline

07:50 schestowitz; [23:09] <schestowitz> they know what"online" means

07:50 schestowitz; [23:09] <schestowitz> because they extract data from that

07:55 schestowitz; https://patents.justia.com/patent/7908371

↺ https://patents.justia.com/patent/7908371

07:55 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-patents.justia.com | US Patent for System and method of searching for classifying user activity performed on a computer system Patent (Patent # 7,908,371 issued March 15, 2011) - Justia Patents Search

07:55 schestowitz; [23:28] <schestowitz> :-)

07:55 schestowitz; [23:28] <schestowitz> sounds like SOFTWARE patents

07:55 schestowitz; [23:28] <schestowitz> which we oppose

07:55 schestowitz; [23:28] <schestowitz> moral objections aside


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08:28 activelow; this patent is not a patentable scientific/technical innovation

08:29 activelow; tap and hook into GUI event handlers, keyboard sniffing... patent? crazy.

08:30 schestowitz-TR; ytes

08:30 schestowitz-TR; welcome to USPTO

08:30 activelow; reminds me of, dbus, which implements it

08:30 schestowitz-TR; shit patents

08:30 schestowitz-TR; in large numbers

08:30 schestowitz-TR; Assange had a stroke

08:30 schestowitz-TR; as it turns out

08:32 activelow; btw. NSA contribution to linux kernel was SELinux... RedHat

08:33 schestowitz-TR; yes

08:33 schestowitz-TR; now IBM

08:33 schestowitz-TR; with DoD contracts

08:33 schestowitz-TR; Red Hat is also close to Palantir

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08:33 schestowitz-TR; but I cannot say much about that

08:33 activelow; same with systemd/dbus... RedHat; i do not consider SELinux malicious, systemd/dbus are evil

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08:57 schestowitz; "

08:57 schestowitz; Salary Adjustment Procedure: Test appeals

08:57 schestowitz; With our previous publication we informed you about the open letter we sent to the President. Aiming to avoid flooding the administration with mass legal actions, we suggested the possibility to use test appellants.

08:57 schestowitz; Earlier this week, we received an affirmative reply from the President, in which the President confirmed that the Office would be willing to apply the final outcome of the legal proceedings to all staff in the same situation in fact and law. SUEPO will now be finding a team of active staff members & pensioners that will act as test appellants for the different circumstances we can identify and supporting this group throughout the legal

08:57 schestowitz; proceedings. The first step for them will be filing the Request for Review by 30 September 2020.

08:57 schestowitz; "


9 AM, December 13

09:08 schestowitz-TR; [08:30] <schestowitz-TR> Assange had a stroke

09:08 Techrights-sec; yes I read, but it is only mentioned in one or two places

09:08 Techrights-sec; it is probably a side effect of his physical mistreatment as well as

09:08 Techrights-sec; probably /one/ of the side effects of the medications forced into him

09:08 Techrights-sec; the goal is to kill him

09:08 Techrights-sec; notice also that the judge is a long time friend of the polictician who

09:08 Techrights-sec; had him removed illegally from the embassy


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12:42 schestowitz; "

12:42 schestowitz; [LSCMN] Salary adjustment procedure: Virtual Floor Meetings - Why 1 day of strike?

12:42 schestowitz; Publication on behalf of the Munich Staff Representatives (LSCMN)

12:42 schestowitz; This week, the Local Staff Committee Munich held 7 Virtual Floor Meetings which were very well attended by around 1.000 staff members. We thank you for your participation which confirms again the need of staff to be informed of what is going on in the Office and to gather in person again.

12:42 schestowitz; For your records and for those who could not attend, we invite you to view the slides of the presentation.

12:42 schestowitz;

12:42 schestowitz; Emails to the President and VP4

12:42 schestowitz; In the meetings, we called on you to make your views known by sending an email to the President (president@epo.org) and VP4 (vp4office@epo.org), preferably adding in cc. your Local Staff Committee (mnstcom@epo.org) to keep your staff reps updated.

12:42 schestowitz; In this publication, we provide an example of an email, as well as a short list of questions to help you put your thoughts into writing.

12:42 schestowitz;

12:42 schestowitz; How to register for the strike?

12:42 schestowitz; In the GCC meeting of 10 December, Mr Campinos confirmed that the strike on 15 December 2020 can take place and Ms Simon explained that her services were working on the activation of the strike registration tool and it has now been activated.

12:42 schestowitz;

12:42 schestowitz; Please use the online strike registration tool (also accessible via q/myfips -> Teleworking, time and leave -> Strike registration). More information on industrial actions can be found here. In case you cannot use the tool, you can also inform your line manager in writing.

12:42 schestowitz;

12:42 schestowitz; Make the day of strike count. To support you, we need you to support us!

12:42 schestowitz; "

12:43 schestowitz; "

12:43 schestowitz; LSCMN] Salary adjustment procedure: Outcome of the General Assembly of Thursday 19 November

12:43 schestowitz; Publication on behalf of the Munich Staff Representatives (LSCMN)

12:43 schestowitz; Dear colleagues,

12:43 schestowitz; The first General Assembly of the Local Staff Committee Munich by video-conference was very well attended by around 1.300 staff members. We thank you for your participation which confirms the need of staff to be informed of what is going on in the Office and to gather in person again.

12:43 schestowitz; We received very positive feedback on the factual presentation of the salary adjustment procedure and the broken promises of Mr Campinos, as well as the organisation of the Q&A session.

12:43 schestowitz; For those who could not attend, we invite you to view the slides of the presentation and the video of the General Assembly with the Q&A session below.

12:43 schestowitz; "


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13:04 schestowitz; Publication on behalf of the Munich Staff Representatives (LSCMN)

13:04 schestowitz; Last week, the Local Staff Committee Munich held 7 Virtual Floor Meetings which were very well attended by around 1.000 staff members. The attendance adds to the 1.300 attendees of the General Assembly of 18-11-2020. For your records and for those who could not attend, we invite you to view the slides of the presentation.

13:04 schestowitz;

13:04 schestowitz; In case you are still hesitating to go on strike, you can find some last minute food for thought in this paper.

13:04 schestowitz;

13:04 schestowitz; Your Local

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15:37 Techrights-sec; still mostly away ...


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16:21 schestowitz-TR; rianne was amused by the bear and cat story


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18:04 schestowitz; > Dear Dr Schestowitz

18:04 schestowitz; >

18:04 schestowitz; >

18:04 schestowitz; >

18:04 schestowitz; > Thank you for your email of 15 November 2021, regarding Yorkshire Health

18:04 schestowitz; > Solutions.

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; > Manchester CCG have investigated this matter thoroughly and I now attach

18:05 schestowitz; > our final response to your complaint. Should you not agree with the

18:05 schestowitz; > outcome of your complaint, there are details which outline next steps

18:05 schestowitz; > you are able to take at the end of the attached letter.

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; >

18:05 schestowitz; > Kind regards,

18:05 schestowitz; Thank you, Niall. I am satisfied with the outcome.

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23:19 schestowitz; Re: more rumors

23:19 schestowitz; > Please look out for any rumors about Kristina and her friend.

23:19 schestowitz; >

23:19 schestowitz; > Such rumors are rather easy to contradict. Maybe it is better to let

23:19 schestowitz; > the trolls run amuck for a while before showing they are wrong and

23:19 schestowitz; > making fools of them.

23:19 schestowitz; >

23:19 schestowitz; > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedians_in_OSCAL_2018_02.jpg

↺ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedians_in_OSCAL_2018_02.jpg

23:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-commons.wikimedia.org | File:Wikimedians in OSCAL 2018 02.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

23:19 schestowitz; >

23:19 schestowitz; > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedians_in_OSCAL_2018_01.jpg

↺ https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedians_in_OSCAL_2018_01.jpg

23:19 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-commons.wikimedia.org | File:Wikimedians in OSCAL 2018 01.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

23:19 schestowitz; >

23:19 schestowitz; > Now she is in the UK on the Chevening scholarship at SOAS in London. Do

23:19 schestowitz; > you want to try and meet her?

23:19 schestowitz; I've heard no rumours, nor seen malicious tongues lately.

23:19 schestowitz; I could use some more context.

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