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07:41 schestowitz-TR; regarding population explosion, yes, I am perfectly aware
07:42 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-121022.html#tOct%2012%2006:10:25
07:42 Techrights-sec; ^ topic ?
07:42 Techrights-sec; http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-121022.html#tOct%2012%2003:13:18
07:42 Techrights-sec; # there are far cheaper, far more reliable MFA solutions than "smartphones"
07:42 Techrights-sec; Yubikey, Onlykey, Nitrokey, etc. all last many more years than a "smartphone"
07:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
07:42 Techrights-sec; and without the risk of remote compromise that comes with the "smartphones"
07:42 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, October 12, 2022
07:42 Techrights-sec; Pushing out "smartphones" gives every appearance of a solution in search of
07:42 Techrights-sec; a problem. Are kickbacks or something similar involved?
07:43 schestowitz-TR; you are thinking way ahead and over-estimate our 'talent'
07:43 schestowitz-TR; two of them have ZERO skills in tech and are just sleeping with a colleague
07:43 schestowitz-TR; they use 'Linux'... in virtualbox in Windows
07:43 schestowitz-TR; so giving them yubikey is like buying a coffee machine capsule to someone in a congoese jungle
07:50 Techrights-sec; So then it sounds like they are bending policy into something which justifiess
07:50 Techrights-sec; them buying useless, expensive toys using the company's money.
07:50 Techrights-sec; They should just be upfront and ask for a PS5 for the one "employee"
07:53 schestowitz-TR; I have not even been sent a contract to sign yet and am considering the options
07:53 schestowitz-TR; rianne keeps saying,
07:53 schestowitz-TR; if we tolerate thig
07:53 schestowitz-TR; *this
07:53 schestowitz-TR; the next stage might be, not you need to use "company laptop"
07:53 schestowitz-TR; with who-knows-what on it
07:53 schestowitz-TR; we have colleagues with use hypePhones
07:53 schestowitz-TR; this is not the company I joined in Feb 2011
07:53 schestowitz-TR; and we have NO security people
07:53 schestowitz-TR; just a bunch of self-appointing pretenders
08:00 schestowitz-TR; back on the prior topic, any advice you can give would help
08:00 schestowitz-TR; as we are still not certain how to deal with this
08:00 schestowitz-TR; adding "cellphone" to the home based on false pretenses is surrendering to frauds
08:00 schestowitz-TR; a lot of it was (after 50 mins on phone), "we MIGHT find use for it in the future"
08:00 schestowitz-TR; mfa suually works with landline also
08:00 schestowitz-TR; they phone and read our a numbers
08:02 Techrights-sec; yes, the proposed "smartphone" deployment is fraudulent on several levels.
08:02 Techrights-sec; In other words, they have no use for it now and it is a solution in search of
08:02 Techrights-sec; a problem. :(
08:02 Techrights-sec; Just-in-time is generally more cost efficient when dealing with rapidly
08:02 Techrights-sec; obsolete products that depreciate in both value and utility at a frenetic rate.
08:02 Techrights-sec; If they are truly interested in MFA then they should be looking around to see
08:02 Techrights-sec; what options there are and which are most future-proof, least cost, and
08:02 Techrights-sec; least maintenance. That pretty much excludes all "smartphones".
08:02 schestowitz-TR; ack
08:05 Techrights-sec; There are many kinds of 2FA. Some call and speak a short number or code word.
08:05 Techrights-sec; That works independent of phone type. Or if SMS is required (insecure in the
08:05 Techrights-sec; big picture) then a 15 EUR feature phone will be far more cost effective.
08:05 Techrights-sec; Furthermore, apps are generally just mutilated web browsers that have been
08:05 Techrights-sec; locked to a single site and never updated for security or other reasons.
08:05 Techrights-sec; https://www.nitrokey.com/
08:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Nitrokey |Secure your digital life
08:05 Techrights-sec; https://onlykey.io/
08:05 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-onlykey.io | OnlyKey Hardware Password Manager | One PIN to remember
08:07 schestowitz-TR; someone from finland once sent me entropykey
08:07 schestowitz-TR; I still have it, but the drivers might be well out of data
08:07 schestowitz-TR; that was back when I did GNU/Linux advocacy around 2007 or prior
08:10 Techrights-sec; With the "smartphone" what happens when it is lost, stolen, broken, compromised,
08:10 Techrights-sec; or the battery runs down? Entropy keys would be useful on a server.
08:10 Techrights-sec; There should be a spare "smartphone" to avoid denial of service in those
08:10 Techrights-sec; scenarios. That's too expensive.
08:10 Techrights-sec; This is probably the least expensive option,
08:10 Techrights-sec; https://www.yubico.com/products/security-key/
08:10 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Security Key Series | YubiKeys | Yubico
08:10 Techrights-sec; least expensive
08:12 schestowitz-TR; like I said earlier, NO SECURITY_PROFICIENT PEOPLE make these decisions
08:12 schestowitz-TR; they are frauds like SarinGas
08:12 schestowitz-TR; and this is what we cannot accept
08:12 schestowitz-TR; I told him I've lectured even hospitals here on secuirty since age 22
08:12 schestowitz-TR; I'm a lot more qualified than them
08:12 schestowitz-TR; not that I' a a guru, it's really not my area
08:12 schestowitz-TR; and I often deal with outdated systems, though no more outdated than $employer's
08:12 schestowitz-TR; due to costs and sys admin constraints (we both know this; tessier was more hands-on)
08:12 schestowitz-TR; to remind you, one org we support advocates human rights in iran and its staff is targeted
08:12 schestowitz-TR; you sometimes link to their site
08:12 schestowitz-TR; with masturbating pretenders as "bosses" they can die
08:14 Techrights-sec; Yes, clearly frauds looking for an excuse to buy the most expensive model
08:14 Techrights-sec; of "smartphone" for themselves using company money.
08:14 Techrights-sec; What models (specifically) of "smartphone" are they proposing or is
08:14 Techrights-sec; there a hierarchy of expense.
08:14 Techrights-sec; Many of the newer hardware tokens even allow for NFC, something I am undecided
08:14 Techrights-sec; about, which would ease their use among those with such computers or
08:14 Techrights-sec; "smartphones"
08:14 Techrights-sec; They probably have multiple fatwas against them.
08:14 Techrights-sec; It sounds like if they wise up they will fire your boss either by sending
08:14 Techrights-sec; him on his way or by moving to a different provider.
08:14 Techrights-sec; ack
08:15 schestowitz-TR; look up maxziar bahari
08:15 schestowitz-TR; maziar
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08:23 schestowitz-TR; I've not yet received the thing they want signed
08:23 schestowitz-TR; it might shed a clue on what we're being exposed to (if consenting)
08:23 schestowitz-TR; I would not spend money on lawyers if I can read it meticulously myself
08:23 schestowitz-TR; my uncle us a judge, he gave me advice a few times in past years
08:24 schestowitz-TR; I reckon it allows several "new" abuses and protects them in case of us suing
08:24 Techrights-sec; In some jurisdictions one can strike out offending words, sentences, and
08:24 Techrights-sec; paragraphs with a pen prior to signing. Another trick is to ask for an
08:24 Techrights-sec; electronic copy, and you edit it, print it out and then send the edited
08:24 Techrights-sec; version back. :P
08:28 Techrights-sec; From what you have described they have not presented a case for purchasing
08:28 Techrights-sec; such expensive and perishable items as "smartphones". It sounds more liek
08:28 Techrights-sec; s/liek/like/
08:28 Techrights-sec; one or two wishes to use company money for a toy of their own.
08:35 schestowitz-TR; just had a chat with rianne
08:35 schestowitz-TR; circa 10 mins
08:35 schestowitz-TR; so we like this idea
08:35 schestowitz-TR; we print out the PDF
08:35 schestowitz-TR; we wait 1-2 weeks, for "seeing a lawyer" (not)
08:35 schestowitz-TR; first delay
08:35 schestowitz-TR; then we send modified version with parts "deemed likely illegal"
08:35 schestowitz-TR; they cannot fire because
08:35 schestowitz-TR; they can get sued for retaliating upon trying to "asap" get us to sign something not legal
08:35 schestowitz-TR; and this legal threat can itself foil the whole plan
08:35 schestowitz-TR; we think
08:35 schestowitz-TR; or get us exempted
08:37 Techrights-sec; more gimmicks:
08:37 Techrights-sec; https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-hardware-security-keys/
08:37 Techrights-sec; Closed source gimmick: https://duo.com/product/multi-factor-authentication-mfa/two-factor-authentication-2fa
08:37 Techrights-sec; What are the FSF's recommendations for tokens and authenticators?
08:37 Techrights-sec; Especially for ones that do not require "smartphone" surveillance.
08:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.maketecheasier.com | 5 of the Best Hardware Security Keys for Two-Factor Authentication - Make Tech Easier
08:37 Techrights-sec; ack
08:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) | Duo Security
08:38 Techrights-sec; It still sounds like someone there is looking for an excuse to buy himself
08:38 Techrights-sec; and expensive toy using company money.
08:38 Techrights-sec; I supposed they have not even considered physical security.
08:38 Techrights-sec; You should recommend purchasing specialized devices for that for all the
08:38 Techrights-sec; staff, Glock 17DK would be a good match for physical security.
08:38 schestowitz-TR; ack
08:38 schestowitz-TR; thinking...
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09:49 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: ping
09:49 schestowitz-TR; immune system is now something you get buy/get off the shelf
09:50 schestowitz-TR; the link you gave is german's national broadcaster
09:50 schestowitz-TR; and it shut him upo
09:50 mjg59_; What? No it didn't.
09:51 schestowitz; "Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it."
09:51 schestowitz; -RMS
09:51 mjg59_; Just point at the fucking study, Roy.
09:58 DaemonFC; "The CDC says that although two doses of the vaccine work to prevent severe illness in most people, boosters can help protect severe illness in people in risk groups, and against reinfection from new variants like omicron.
09:58 DaemonFC; Recent trials in Israel and the US have also shown that boosters can help protect older people. Offit says they make sense for people who need them due to risk factors, but that protection from omicron alone isn't enough of a reason to boost everyone.
09:58 DaemonFC; "The people who get hospitalized, people who have multiple comorbidities, who are older or immunosuppressed boost them. I'm all for that," Offit said. "But I just don't understand the story of this war against mild disease in healthy young people."
10:00 mjg59_; DaemonFC: Can you point at the bit where it says that additional COVID vaccinations reduce your immune response to non-COVID diseases?
10:01 schestowitz-TR; DaemonFC: he uses a straw man argument now
10:01 schestowitz-TR; by making up the think to refute
10:02 schestowitz-TR; don't waste time on it
10:03 mjg59_; 08:56 < schestowitz[TR]> they said people vaccinated for covid-19 were more prone to contracting other viruses
10:03 mjg59_; What, precisely, am I making up?
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10:54 schestowitz-TR; apps are (mostly) overrated gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random20
11:00 Techrights-sec; Web2.0 front-ends aka masses of javascript in single-site, insecure, outdated
11:00 Techrights-sec; browsers.
11:02 schestowitz-TR; web sites that read your location as you walk
11:02 schestowitz-TR; and can even figure out orientation vertically on some "phones"
11:02 schestowitz-TR; web sites that easily gain access to call history , address book, microphone, and multiple cameras :-)
11:02 schestowitz-TR; (apropos the news about ./l in SN, re webcam always on)
11:02 schestowitz-TR; *nl
11:04 schestowitz-TR; sys admins need "apps" like barbers need box cutters
11:05 Techrights-sec; That's about it. Sadly they are driven by the Google/Apple duopoly and
11:05 Techrights-sec; the monkey-see, monkey-do attitude that most people take towards life.
11:06 schestowitz-TR; you could even ssay money-see, money-envy
11:06 schestowitz-TR; I avoid these epople like they are infectious lepers
11:06 schestowitz-TR; and keep rianne safe from them, too
11:07 Techrights-sec; That too. Parts of social control media are driven by negative emotions like
11:07 Techrights-sec; jealously and envy and fear.
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11:08 schestowitz-TR; they are "poison" which targets the primal instincts
11:08 schestowitz-TR; and should be labeled as such, esp. in reent years when making is addictive is blatant and insiders blow the whistle on it
11:09 Techrights-sec; Not just target, but also actively exploit those as weaknesses.
11:09 Techrights-sec; They have blown the whistle several times but the results are, without irony,
11:09 Techrights-sec; "discussed" on said same social control media where they are quickly stifled.
11:09 Techrights-sec; and suppressed.
11:12 Techrights-sec; :(
11:12 schestowitz-TR; rianne stopped buying much clothes, except for selling, when she quit the BS machine
11:13 schestowitz-TR; rianne became a happier person when she stopped "using" FB
11:13 schestowitz-TR; a side issue I learned over time is that people buy a lot more clothes
11:13 schestowitz-TR; almost like disposables
11:13 schestowitz-TR; just to show off how big their wardrobe (status symbol) is
11:13 schestowitz-TR; and in social control media you're not allowed ro 'reuse' an item of clothing
11:13 schestowitz-TR; that makes you petty and 'poor'
11:13 Techrights-sec; :(
11:13 schestowitz-TR; so there are envioronmental aspects to these literally toxic (dyes etc.) "sites"
11:19 schestowitz-TR; funny your should mention batteries or UPSs
11:19 schestowitz-TR; earlier on I was thinking of it in the context of fake reasons for "smart" phone (tethering)
11:19 schestowitz-TR; no power may mean no connection
11:19 schestowitz-TR; but no power means no pi (vpn)
11:19 schestowitz-TR; no monitors
11:19 schestowitz-TR; and only a few hours for laptops
11:19 schestowitz-TR; and the router too need power
11:19 schestowitz-TR; so, to us at least, they 'solve' an issue that does not exist
11:19 schestowitz-TR; or a problem that cannot be overcome
11:19 schestowitz-TR; in some scenarios the exchanges too can run out of power
11:19 schestowitz-TR; or nearby stations
11:19 schestowitz-TR; so even a ups at the router and batteries on a laptop... no good
11:19 schestowitz-TR; we cannot do our job on "apps"
11:22 Techrights-sec; The move to 5G mobile networking is another energy problem as the signal requires much more power to send and receive. In the event of outages the towers
11:22 Techrights-sec; won't be able to work on reserve power for any appreciable amount of time.
11:22 Techrights-sec; UPS is only intended to give the computer breathing room to power down before
11:22 Techrights-sec; hard cutoff. There are other options (I forget the name) for proper uptime.
11:22 Techrights-sec; The best is to keep the large displays and printers off those circuits.
11:22 Techrights-sec; The router is a read-only OS and does not need power because if there is no
11:22 Techrights-sec; electricity there is no network anyway.
11:22 Techrights-sec; UPS is only a buffer for a few minutes.
11:22 Techrights-sec; ANother reason the job cannot be done on apps is that the batteries in the
11:22 Techrights-sec; "smartphones" last only a few hours. You'd get as much life out of a new
11:22 Techrights-sec; s/new/old/
11:23 Techrights-sec; laptop. If you can get a new laptop, some of them claim to have 10 - 12 hours
11:23 Techrights-sec; of usage per charge.
11:23 Techrights-sec; Just avoid Nvidia for that.
11:23 schestowitz-TR; wait, the energy supplier's guy, whom I spoke to for a very long time, said the copper net connection can still deliver during localised blackouits/outages
11:23 schestowitz-TR; because at the edges there are some batteries for spare hours
11:23 schestowitz-TR; and gracefully degrdation
11:23 schestowitz-TR; which I believe...
11:23 schestowitz-TR; so if I can boost the router during any sort of blackkouts (planned or unexpected)
11:23 schestowitz-TR; then I can still use the laptops while connected
11:23 Techrights-sec; It depends on a lot of factors. But either way, a UPS is not what would b
11:23 Techrights-sec; e needed at your site.
11:25 schestowitz-TR; yes, normal ups is not what I was after but something that can give enough to the pi and router for maybe 3 hours
11:25 schestowitz-TR; like laptops' batteries
11:27 mjg59_; I have no idea what you're talking about, but consumer UPSes will let routers, modems and a small amount of additional hardware work for hours
11:28 mjg59_; The UPS supplying my uplink will let it run for about 3 hours before dropping out
11:52 Techrights-sec; Another point with the power is that lead-acid batteries are only good for
11:52 Techrights-sec; a few years, an estimated 3 to 5 if I recall correctly.
11:53 schestowitz-TR; I recall reading about ups appliance whose life was so short that they were never put to use in a real incident
11:53 schestowitz-TR; and due to lack of trial and error when a real incident happened they failed to kick in
11:55 schestowitz-TR; :-( another linux news sites I followed is dying
11:55 schestowitz-TR; started posting webspam instead of real stories
11:55 schestowitz-TR; they never recover from that, not fully anyway
11:55 schestowitz-TR; it's a shift in attitude
11:55 schestowitz-TR; like "tfir"
11:59 Techrights-sec; there's not much point in them sticking around once they begin pushing webspam
11:59 Techrights-sec; they can coast a little on the brand recognition and reputation but that
11:59 Techrights-sec; s/that/those.
11:59 Techrights-sec; both disappear quickly once the webspam starts
11:59 Techrights-sec; However, that might be one of the goals of pushing out the web spam.
11:59 Techrights-sec; It takes the site down without people missing it.
12:01 schestowitz-TR; seems like an innovative, creative, novel, covert way to take out one's opposition
12:01 schestowitz-TR; inm theory
12:01 schestowitz-TR; partly joking
12:01 schestowitz-TR; using money to destroy their sites
12:01 schestowitz-TR; and ruin the brand
12:02 schestowitz-TR; I'm looking at you, itsfoss, fossforce, linux.com
12:02 schestowitz-TR; (LF dumpster fires
12:02 schestowitz-TR; did you see the zemlin video I posted last night in TR?
12:02 schestowitz-TR; The man is unhinged
12:02 schestowitz-TR; like a gates npr rep
12:11 Techrights-sec; No, I don't usually have the chance to keep up with the videos just the text
12:12 schestowitz-TR; btw, I need to look deeper into articles I read about vaccine experts expressing concerns that "updated" pfizer jabs were only tested on animals
12:12 schestowitz-TR; I think in the coming years we'lll see further digging into what was actually tested and to what extent
12:12 schestowitz-TR; with effects more serious than hair loss or vomiting
12:12 schestowitz-TR; supprssing research into this can be done within the grant framdworks
12:12 schestowitz-TR; and corporations controlling universities
12:12 schestowitz-TR; but there are always some inquiries
12:12 schestowitz-TR; that of course corporate media is quick to demonise
12:12 schestowitz-TR; today at 4pm we get the weekly data from nhs
12:12 schestowitz-TR; I've not checked the ons data for death (11/10)
12:12 schestowitz-TR; but each week they add more
12:12 schestowitz-TR; I still have some working spreadsheers, I can insert the missing (new weeks) in
12:12 schestowitz-TR; and maybe make some graphs soon
12:12 schestowitz-TR; the ons data is always about 2-3 weeks back
12:12 schestowitz-TR; due to backlog
12:12 Techrights-sec; How up-to-date is the weekly data? I got the impression they were delaying
12:12 Techrights-sec; substantially
12:12 Techrights-sec; ack
12:14 schestowitz-TR; I did a 26 minute video about it on Monday
12:14 schestowitz-TR; the data is fantastic
12:14 schestowitz-TR; because it is vast
12:14 schestowitz-TR; so much so that you can see the curves being very smooth
12:14 schestowitz-TR; and when there is a pattern, it is based on a massive number of people not a random set or subset
12:20 Techrights-sec; gnuplot can do error bars iirc
12:21 schestowitz-TR; I should add error bars (if I recall hwo to calculater them, maybe libreoffice has that built in)
12:21 schestowitz-TR; to show the certainty and accuracy of these curves
12:21 schestowitz-TR; the error bars would be small due to the set size
12:21 schestowitz-TR; I might need to check my own thesis to recall how I rendered them and calculated them
12:21 schestowitz-TR; built in, or need you pass those to it as args?
12:21 schestowitz-TR; I guess the latter
12:21 schestowitz-TR; so you still need to compute
12:21 schestowitz-TR; gnuplot typically just takes a series of value
12:21 schestowitz-TR; I worked a LOT with gnuplot
12:21 schestowitz-TR; even to plot tuxmachines activity some years ago
12:21 schestowitz-TR; gnuplot does not do the maths for you
12:21 schestowitz-TR; and the series of figures alone does not give you error bars
12:21 schestowitz-TR; you need to computer them based on external variables, such as set size
12:23 Techrights-sec; I haven't done it in too long so cannot remember.
12:23 Techrights-sec; Strangly I remember methods from decades ago. :/
12:23 Techrights-sec; https://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/docs_4.2/node140.html
12:23 Techrights-sec; Can you find the script you used back then?
12:23 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-gnuplot.sourceforge.net | Errorbars
12:25 schestowitz-TR; you can chain gnuplot with dc or bc and then plot something
12:25 schestowitz-TR; in tuxmachines blog (old) i showed some scripts with gnuplot
12:25 schestowitz-TR; but that was like 5 years ago
12:25 schestowitz-TR; and tuxmachines is moving on
12:25 schestowitz-TR; btw, search and archives still not there, but they're not so critical
12:25 schestowitz-TR; if search is added, then adding s static secton for "related stories:" becomes possible each time a page gets added
12:25 schestowitz-TR; later today I will see many "reds" in nhs, focus on that, later (another day, i work at 5:30 today) will work on death cert data
12:25 schestowitz-TR; it should be easy to show people my age die younger
12:25 schestowitz-TR; but not much research into causes
12:26 schestowitz-TR; could be so many things
12:26 schestowitz-TR; immune system
12:26 schestowitz-TR; long covid
12:26 schestowitz-TR; depression
12:26 schestowitz-TR; poverty
12:26 schestowitz-TR; nhs sucking
12:26 schestowitz-TR; no access to screenings in 2020-21
12:26 schestowitz-TR; need to study
12:26 schestowitz-TR; all I can do is show what the data shows
12:26 schestowitz-TR; 10% more deaths
12:26 schestowitz-TR; in my age group
12:26 schestowitz-TR; many are young parents
12:27 Techrights-sec; Then there are the harder-to-track effects like "long COVID" and organ damage
12:27 Techrights-sec; like ruined hearts etc
12:27 Techrights-sec; Those are harder to measure
12:27 Techrights-sec; and thus unlikely to be published even irregularly if at all
12:29 schestowitz-TR; I'm careful to not speculate and instead focus on the knowns
12:29 schestowitz-TR; like "number people dead in [age bracket]"
12:29 schestowitz-TR; then, the task is for someone else to study the causes
12:29 schestowitz-TR; we also see a decrease in windows usage
12:29 schestowitz-TR; and vista 11 adoption
12:29 schestowitz-TR; but the causes might be more complicate to explaina nd vary demographically
12:30 Techrights-sec; Right. The causes of the decline in Vista10, Vista11 are not known
12:30 Techrights-sec; Though it looks like many people are moving to Android instead in the various
12:30 Techrights-sec; populations. What would be easily measurable is that whether it is an
12:30 Techrights-sec; actual shift to Android or if new Android users are simply outnumbering
12:30 Techrights-sec; Vista users
12:32 schestowitz-TR; it is a possibility, but it's not like poor countries started using computers only in 2008
12:32 schestowitz-TR; and some use multiple devices
12:32 schestowitz-TR; PCs got expensive
12:32 schestowitz-TR; people got poorers
12:32 schestowitz-TR; PC slaes collapsed
12:32 schestowitz-TR; and I read that in china many chose to have just 'phone' and not a PC
12:32 schestowitz-TR; I think my mom barely uses a PC anymore
12:32 schestowitz-TR; not that she is any more productive now
12:33 Techrights-sec; That's what I'm thinking. That the "smartphones" are spreading into places
12:33 Techrights-sec; where there was nothing at all before. That still breaks the monopoly though,
12:33 Techrights-sec; since market share is market share.
12:33 Techrights-sec; Most people would rather spend 40 minutes dorking unproductively with the
12:33 Techrights-sec; "smartphone" than waiting a bit and getting done with the same task in < 5 min
12:33 Techrights-sec; when in front of a real computer.
12:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, precisely!
12:34 schestowitz-TR; like making cereal instead of proper breaskfast
12:34 schestowitz-TR; and the "cereal" these days tened to be carb-bombs
12:34 schestowitz-TR; (hehe, sounds like "car bomb")
12:34 schestowitz-TR; ()nothing funny about these)
12:35 Techrights-sec; It makes me think that the dorking around is their goal not the actual task
12:35 Techrights-sec; they are pretending to pursue.
13:18 schestowitz; Two days ago the company did this, without notifying anyone:
13:18 schestowitz; https://www.qaccounting.com/i-use-accountants-registered-office-address/
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.qaccounting.com | Should I Use My Accountants As My Registered Office Address? - QA
13:18 schestowitz; https://www.1stformations.co.uk/blog/use-accountant-registered-office/
13:18 schestowitz; turns out it is legal, but not a good sign. We shut down our office in July 2020
13:18 schestowitz; the "Smart" phone BS came a day after the address change
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.1stformations.co.uk | Using Your Accountant For a Registered Office | 1st Formations
13:18 schestowitz; thoughts?
13:27 Techrights-sec; checking
13:27 Techrights-sec; It's problematic that he remains employed despite lying
13:27 schestowitz-TR; timing must have been a coincidence
13:27 schestowitz-TR; maybe related to maternity leave for one who checked the PO box
13:27 schestowitz-TR; but she went on leave months ago
13:27 schestowitz-TR; I notced address change within like less thana day
13:27 schestowitz-TR; I check some things daily
13:27 schestowitz-TR; without rss
13:27 schestowitz-TR; boss was shocked I had become aware (And so fast)
13:27 schestowitz-TR; I reminded him I'm the longest serving staff except the founder
13:27 schestowitz-TR; and I do deserve to know some things
13:27 schestowitz-TR; he likes to get aggressive when exposed lying
13:28 schestowitz-TR; and then pretends to be the victim
13:28 schestowitz-TR; like interrupting you
13:28 schestowitz-TR; and then acccusing the other personal of being rude or interrupting
13:28 schestowitz-TR; that's the type of sociopaths at hand
13:28 schestowitz-TR; he goes like, "why does it matter to you?"
13:28 schestowitz-TR; I remind him, politely, that my reputation may be tied to the employer
13:28 schestowitz-TR; like SarinGas
13:28 schestowitz-TR; he does not care for or understand the business
13:28 schestowitz-TR; yet someone believes to have some god-given rights to dictate
13:28 schestowitz-TR; socipaths
13:28 schestowitz-TR; while WE do ALL the ACTUAL work
13:28 schestowitz-TR; which they CANNOT do (no skills)
13:33 Techrights-sec; ack
13:57 schestowitz-TR; had another chat with the homeboss (rianne)
13:57 schestowitz-TR; i think we know the strategy now
13:57 schestowitz-TR; and it might work okfor them to back off the plan
13:57 schestowitz-TR; or make exemption
13:57 schestowitz-TR; we'll see...
13:57 schestowitz-TR; (joke about rianne being boss of the home)
13:57 schestowitz-TR; maybe that was lost in translation
13:57 schestowitz-TR; 4pm I'll have some nhs data to work with
13:57 schestowitz-TR; TR might pick up speed at night when links are done
14:01 Techrights-sec; ?
14:01 Techrights-sec; ack
14:01 Techrights-sec; ?
14:01 Techrights-sec; ack
14:04 schestowitz-TR; next week we have about 20-30kg of coins to carry to the bank (if all goes to plan)
14:04 schestowitz-TR; I have this unproven theory
14:04 schestowitz-TR; a) they mint fewer coins by moving to "new" bartering
14:04 schestowitz-TR; to make scarcity
14:04 schestowitz-TR; b) making coin-counting machines ascare and expensive
14:04 schestowitz-TR; this way they dicourage cash use, make it a burden
14:04 schestowitz-TR; I have to reopen two accounts in this bank just to use its free coin machine
14:04 schestowitz-TR; it's the onle branch int he centre of town that I know has this service (for free)
14:04 schestowitz-TR; some private shop take 10%(!!) for the 'service'
14:05 Techrights-sec; Coins can be re-used in stores.
14:05 Techrights-sec; If you have an idea how much a trp will cost, you can bring enough and count
14:05 Techrights-sec; them out in time to pay.
14:07 schestowitz-TR; yes, but since about 2002 I've had a habit of dumping smaller change aside, then in plastic bag
14:07 schestowitz-TR; I hadn't yet known about the machines
14:07 schestowitz-TR; they were scarce
14:07 schestowitz-TR; imagine the first time
14:07 schestowitz-TR; I come there with small organised bags
14:07 schestowitz-TR; with coins sorted by type
14:08 schestowitz-TR; and then they present me with this machine
14:08 schestowitz-TR; so I wasted my time
14:08 schestowitz-TR; except
14:08 schestowitz-TR; you can then verify accuracy
14:08 schestowitz-TR; like put all the tens in and see the machine only detects 10s and so on..
14:08 schestowitz-TR; to get some confidence
14:08 Techrights-sec;
14:08 Techrights-sec; If the shops get used to not dealing with cash then they'll have an easier time
14:08 Techrights-sec; dropping it from their work flow.
14:09 schestowitz-TR; yes, exactly
14:09 schestowitz-TR; hence I keep reminding people to pay with cash
14:09 schestowitz-TR; and also use till operators (people)
14:09 schestowitz-TR; to keep them around for all of us
14:09 schestowitz-TR; an act of solidarity, also job-keeping
14:11 Techrights-sec; The same applies to coins, if they're not used to receiving coins they will
14:11 Techrights-sec; cease allowing then in their work flow.
14:15 schestowitz-TR; here, some used "COVID" as a fake excuse
14:15 schestowitz-TR; I wtoe about it at the time
14:15 schestowitz-TR; even made some voice notes on my PDA
14:15 schestowitz-TR; I like to ask them upfront
14:15 schestowitz-TR; and then turn around in an upset gesture
14:15 schestowitz-TR; to make THEM, not me, feel "dirty"
14:15 schestowitz-TR; you still confront not the decision makers
14:15 schestowitz-TR; but people "down the chain"
14:15 schestowitz-TR; in some business directly with the business owner
14:16 schestowitz-TR; and you can congratulate and thank then for taking coina
14:16 schestowitz-TR; and reaffirm their decision
14:16 schestowitz-TR; "we come here because other places don't accdept cash..."
14:16 schestowitz-TR; I taught rianne how to use body language to get serviced at the tills when they are empty
14:16 schestowitz-TR; they pretend they are unmanned
14:16 schestowitz-TR; and also pretend you need to buy cigs to get served by a person
14:16 schestowitz-TR; there are almost always workarounds
14:16 schestowitz-TR; failing that, you make a scene, then leave with the items left them for them to sort out
14:16 Techrights-sec; ack
14:20 schestowitz-TR; a lot of this boils down... to SOCIAL CONDITIONING
14:20 schestowitz-TR; so you know how to confront the trendd/threat
14:20 schestowitz-TR; reward and punishment
14:20 schestowitz-TR; as the person with "the money"
14:20 schestowitz-TR; tghe hardest thing now is,
14:20 schestowitz-TR; still getting them to bag it for you like they used to years ago
14:20 schestowitz-TR; there are ways to get that done too
14:20 schestowitz-TR; subtle ways
14:20 schestowitz-TR; rianne is too shy because she is small, female, and foreign-looking
14:20 schestowitz-TR; if you tried to start 'hashtag' campaign in social CONTROL media,
14:20 schestowitz-TR; it would not spread far
14:20 schestowitz-TR; they would soon say it's an antivaxxer right-wing election-denying terrorist threat
14:20 schestowitz-TR; and 'disperse' the participants
14:20 schestowitz-TR; hahtags are like people "liking" or signing up to a protest
14:20 schestowitz-TR; they do the government's or polcie job
14:20 schestowitz-TR; or making lists of people
14:21 schestowitz-TR; so funny, in a sick way...
14:21 schestowitz-TR; they are mapping themselves, the "threat"
14:22 Techrights-sec; ack
14:22 Techrights-sec; hashtags are closely supervised and I suspect popularity is raised or lowered
14:22 Techrights-sec; drastically dependin on the message the investors wish to promote
14:22 Techrights-sec; Worse is that there are a lot of government representatives without actual
14:22 Techrights-sec; e-mail and pretending to use MS Outlook instead. No wayto reach them
14:22 Techrights-sec; but they don't know that...
14:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Biden White House is upset with Saudi Arabia over the recent OPEC+ decision" https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/12/want-punish-saudis-fast-track-nuke-agreement-iran-and-green-new-deal | Source: Common Dreams
14:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Want to Punish the Saudis? Fast-Track Nuke Agreement With Iran and the Green New Deal | Juan Cole
15:02 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Walled Culture" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/12/techdirt-podcast-episode-333-walled-culture/ | Source: Techdirt
15:02 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Techdirt Podcast Episode 333: Walled Culture | Techdirt
15:09 Techrights-sec; Hmm. That's a SoundCloud link.
15:09 Techrights-sec; Hmm. That's a SoundCloud link.
15:10 schestowitz-TR; yes, I am aware they outsource a lot to clown and proprietary
15:10 schestowitz-TR; but remember techdirt was never a foss platform/site
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15:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Jim Zemlin: we should be more like Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/jim-zemlin-applauding-bill-gates/
15:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin Idolises Microsoft and Bill Gates (in New Talk Published This Week), Applauding a Back Doors Company and Jeffrey Epsteins Enabler | Techrights
15:47 Techrights-sec; TM is active with legitimate visits, not just bots
15:48 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> (NEW): PostgreSQL 15 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/PostgreSQL_15.gmi
15:48 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines PostgreSQL 15
15:50 schestowitz-TR; speed matter a lot, maybe the most
15:50 schestowitz-TR; we're only minutes, not hours, behind LWN with this
15:50 schestowitz-TR; I'm not working on RSS
15:50 schestowitz-TR; I have a way of identifying patterns to pick out urgent stories
15:50 schestowitz-TR; and rianne also checks a lot
15:50 schestowitz-TR; quiet at work today
15:50 schestowitz-TR; and no new email
15:50 schestowitz-TR; which is a good sign
15:58 Techrights-sec; ack
16:02 schestowitz-TR; covid data 2 mins
16:02 schestowitz-TR; sans delays
16:02 schestowitz-TR; lol delay, of course...
16:03 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> (NEW): Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.shtml Something a hopeless company with no business modem would do (_short-term_ business model: sell out to Microsoft)
16:03 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines Canonical displays controversial 'ad' in shell update prog
16:11 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10% https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/test-positivity-rate-soars/
16:11 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive New COVID-19 Data for England: Cases Up 21%, Deaths Up 15% in a Week, Test Positivity Rate Soars to 10%
16:11 Techrights-sec; gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/13/Canonical_displays_controversial_ad_in_shell_update_prog.gmi
16:40 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-septembers/
16:40 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Deaths Rose Sharply This September Compared to Prior Septembers (More Than 10% Higher Than in 2020)
16:53 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Classic FUD. Microsoft propaganda site blames "GoLang" and warns about "Linux" because someone wrote some malware and GoLang and tries to trick people into installing it. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-alchimist-attack-framework-targets-windows-macos-linux/
16:53 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, Linux
16:53 schestowitz-TR; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- www.bleepingcomputer.com | New Alchimist attack framework targets Windows, macOS, Linux
16:53 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Microsoft is trying to shamelessly twist cross-platform compatibility as an undesirable thing and security nightmare.
16:58 Techrights-sec; and that's when they even acknowledge non-m$ platforms
16:58 Techrights-sec; normally in m$ world view, cross-platform means only working across several
16:58 Techrights-sec; of the latest version of m$ windows
16:58 schestowitz-TR; all versions of Vista
17:00 Techrights-sec; basically
17:01 schestowitz-TR; this app [sic] is cross-platform because it works in debian, kylin, sparky, and other debian derivs
17:01 schestowitz-TR; (hardly even multi-platform)
17:01 schestowitz-TR; bill gates believes in freedom of the press because he bribes 1000 newspapers, not just 1
17:03 Techrights-sec; x86
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17:35 Techrights-sec; https://yewtu.be/watch?v=f6wtF_2eyrU
17:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yewtu.be | Glyn Moody: Walled Culture - A Journey Behind the Copyright Bricks - Invidious
17:36 schestowitz-TR; thanks
17:41 Techrights-sec; np
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17:43 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> How music platform Corite is turning true fans into digital street teams - Walled Culture https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/
17:43 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/how-music-platform-corite-is-turning-true-fans-into-digital-street-teams/ )
17:43 schestowitz-TR; we need to agree on how to deal with walled culture
17:43 schestowitz-TR; you check, I check, or perl checks
17:43 schestowitz-TR; at the moment there is duplication of effort, he has just published an item
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17:50 Techrights-sec; Better to check manually since the material seems quite good and very relevant
17:50 Techrights-sec; That way it is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves.
17:50 schestowitz-TR; ok, I will keep on reading it in quiterss
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18:22 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "I'v started a new Gemini mailing list." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~sario528/gemlog/2022-10-13.gmi
18:32 Techrights-sec; t is more likely to get the positive attention it deserves.
18:32 Techrights-sec; ack
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21:05 schestowitz-TR; ] <schestowitz[TR]> Gannett?
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> GOOD
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <starstreak> schestowitz[TR], :)
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> they are malicious sites
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> thatharm visitors
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <DaemonFC> " The nations largest newspaper chain, Gannett, continued its cost cutting measures today, announcing a hiring freeze, a mandatory unpaid five-day leave for every employee this December, a six-month sabbatical, a suspension of 401K matches from the company, voluntary severance offer for those who want to retire or leave the company and an optional four-day workweek."
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <schestowitz[TR]> also propaganda network
21:05 schestowitz-TR; [21:04] <DaemonFC> "Reeds announcement comes about two months after the company laid off roughly 400 employees or 3% of its U.S. workforce at papers across the country, according to a report from flagship title USA Today."
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22:33 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/13/covid-19-deaths-increasing/
22:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Graph: Deaths Involving COVID-19 Increased in the UK
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