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beginning of new day, September 13

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8 AM, September 13

08:30 Techrights-sec; gm

08:30 Techrights-sec; Two scripts and the database structure are now set up to begin to retain

08:30 Techrights-sec; plain text without the markup. That is necessary preparation for full text

08:30 Techrights-sec; searching. It's been tested locally but not in-place. Please double check

08:30 Techrights-sec; the addition and updating of records.

08:31 schestowitz-TR2; you want me to double check that when posting and updating things seem sane, right?

08:31 Techrights-sec; Yes, thanks

08:31 Techrights-sec; It /should/ be ok, but a second set of eyes is essential.

08:32 schestowitz-TR2; I wanted to ask,

08:32 schestowitz-TR2; [08:29] <techrights-news> Notice how SJVN and OIN refuse or fail to speak about software patents as the issue, they blame "trolls". IBM, Microsoft, LF etc. are not against software patents; watch who they collect bribes from!

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; is this something to cover in article/video?

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; SJVN is swpats shill

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; I thought I'd just ignore him

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; he and zdnet pushing the oin line

08:33 schestowitz-TR2; they are in another universe

08:33 Techrights-sec; I think so, since they are consciously choosing to promote software patents

08:33 Techrights-sec; through selective omission. That implies misdirection if not downright

08:33 Techrights-sec; dishonesty.

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; let's wait a day and see if there are follow-ups

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; or a better angle from which to tackle this

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; they cancel people who actually talk about the real issue

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; and real solutions to the issues

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; they want to pretend ICBM will be our ally

08:34 schestowitz-TR2; because... money

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08:35 Techrights-sec; Yes, which further emphasizes their active, conscious participation in

08:35 Techrights-sec; the promotion of software patents against the general backdrop of software

08:35 Techrights-sec; freedom. (It goes without saying that software patents are not a matter

08:35 Techrights-sec; for software developers or programmers, but an active harm against actual

08:35 Techrights-sec; end-users.)

08:41 schestowitz-TR2; draft

08:44 Techrights-sec; ack

08:44 Techrights-sec; More details on what is wrong with the handling of the certificates is needed.

08:44 Techrights-sec; The one link with the transcript provides that information but a few words or a

08:44 Techrights-sec; couple of lines of summary would help greatly.

08:44 Techrights-sec; Hint: CAs

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes I make errors

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; if judged not to be too huge, I don't try to undo

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; because last time I tried it caused chaos on my home network

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; due to the log giles being gigabyes in size

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; *files

08:49 schestowitz-TR2; dasya ago, to sanitise away binary crap from the unplanned shutdown, I had to stop several services first

08:54 Techrights-sec; ack


9 AM, September 13

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; btw, I spent a lot of time recipe hunting

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I realise I really suck at cooking

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; but then again we live in a generation like that

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; imagine getting "that was tasty" instead of "you got a like"

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I remember when mothers cooked

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; now the mothers are like kids

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; with their "smart" phones and selfies

09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I found no obvious errors in the capsule

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; ---

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; I think the media now teaches both men and womewn that cooking is a sign of weakeness

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; and they should instead be consumeers of processed foods with preservatives

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; somer of which can contribute to trumour cell

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; *tumour

09:03 schestowitz-TR2; we spoke about it yesterday in relation to an aunt

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; --

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; I've just made copy of the irc lines re sjvn

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes instead of scripting I just think about the issues for a while

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; like in the kitchen

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; and then the arguments come out a little better

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; after thinking them over

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; maybe more links will become available

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; I have not kept track of patent news in a while and not much is missed

09:08 schestowitz-TR2; as journalism there too is stagnant or non-existent

09:09 Techrights-sec; Checking links

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; road-ahead sign: irc a bit noisy this week, I've decided to look away a little more

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; until it resettles

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; it's often like this when matey becomes active and people respond

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; I am improving the layout here and writing some tiny tools

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; when the new setup is in place we can produce more suitably for the 2023 era

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; regarding trend ocean, I 'll monitor his "content" for a week maybe

09:13 schestowitz-TR2; perhaps we can then decide what to do

09:13 Techrights-sec; Notice the tabloids ridicule Andrew but avoid mentioning why

09:13 Techrights-sec; ack

09:16 schestowitz-TR2; tabloids are always full of it

09:16 schestowitz-TR2; I just ignore them

09:16 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes I look at the covers for a laugh when rianne pays for food and I wait around

09:16 schestowitz-TR2; all in all, the culture here is still good; the target audience of tabloids is typically

09:16 schestowitz-TR2; the 'lower' class, to put it politely

09:22 schestowitz-TR2; being in the underclass somewhere like iceland might be no better than being among the elites in macao or lagos or some other "rich island"

09:22 schestowitz-TR2; the uk caused suffering inwards and outwards and used booze inwards (opium outwards) to soften ... looking for another words here ... the masses

09:22 schestowitz-TR2; class here is still a thing, but only if you actively socialise.

09:22 schestowitz-TR2; lull, captivate, hyponotiuse, paralyse... still forgot the word I had in mind...

09:23 schestowitz-TR2; going for coffee, the word might come back if i don't stare at a monitor

09:30 Techrights-sec; pacify?

09:30 Techrights-sec; The global smartphone market looks like the new Opium Wars

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; yes!

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; or neutralise, hypnotise, zombify

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; the last is apt a term for "smart" phone

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; I didn't know about opium wars until 10 years ago

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; many orgs that used to fight for civil rights become corporate pacifiers

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; like oin

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; worse,

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; a) opium did not report back on the subject

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; b) opium needs cultivating, farming, transporting

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; c) the age for opium is typically higher

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; ...

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; people no longer garden for food nor can they cook anything

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; making them a lot more dependent on the "supply chain"

09:35 schestowitz-TR2; as noteed earlier

09:36 Techrights-sec; opiumwars++

09:36 Techrights-sec; It does share the characteristics of pacification and neutralization, however.

09:36 Techrights-sec; Yes, it hits them before their teens. See some of the health articles about

09:36 Techrights-sec; the severe, permanent damage that does, not to mention what it does to the

09:36 Techrights-sec; removing the ability to eventually be ready for participation in society.

09:36 Techrights-sec; In some areas, I have heard, that the new houses and apartments, and renovated

09:36 Techrights-sec; ones, are basically made without kitchens.

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09:38 schestowitz-TR2; yes, people now pay rent the same as before but for low-quality aparthotel or small hotel room

09:38 schestowitz-TR2; not studio per se

09:38 schestowitz-TR2; but just a fridge

09:38 schestowitz-TR2; no kitchen

09:38 schestowitz-TR2; it has a "dining area" (read: table)

09:43 Techrights-sec; The weird ones are the sites where the kitchens and kitchenettes are removed

09:43 Techrights-sec; during "renovation"

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; I'm sure they make up for it with referctories;-)

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; cooking takes a loit of time

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; but it's the different between dying young or old

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; and spending 200-300 ppm or just 50-50

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; *150

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; working harder kills, too

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; more financial demands => shorter life

09:46 schestowitz-TR2; "PLEASE INSERT COINS"

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; regarding the link you sent about self-hosting email

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; there is a middle ground

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; a shared account with webhost outside the home

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; that lets you manage everything from within your domain

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; on a shared IP adress

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; they handle the address reputation

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; and even inform you if there is a scatterback

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; email is not encrypted

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; very few people will be able to send AND receive encrypted mail from you

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; so the argument about privacy hardly holds

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; at work, a colleague bragged email was on encrypted file system

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; I reminded him we outsourced to AWS

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; and never encrypt email even though 12 years ago I did try to suggest it

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; he bought a $1,000 steel door

09:54 schestowitz-TR2; but left the window wide open


10 AM, September 13

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; ===

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; there is a solution to all this: avoid email, whenever possible. or be passive about them. I think I now average 2 outgoing emails per day

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; the temptation is further reduce (or the incentive) when you only open it twice a day and only go through unknown sources or origins once a week or less

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; voice chat is a tricky one but avoiding personal topics makes sense, as not everything said out aloud is recorded (knowingly or unknowingly) or typed down

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; the coundaries are blurred by those listening devices, which are now advertsed using gimmicks like "can recognise voice/accent/language"

10:00 schestowitz-TR2; which means scanning of the audio content, turning it into text, as a 'feature'... ti "improve your experience"

10:12 schestowitz-TR2; to the media this should all be "common ssnse", but it seldom warns people. regarding phonecalls, one should assume that what's feasible is done at all

10:13 schestowitz-TR2; times, but then talks over the phone would get dry and platonic, even business calls. they want people to become "open books"

10:16 Techrights-sec; Amazon, Google, and Apple have a multitude of "smart", always-on microphones

10:16 Techrights-sec; reporting back to HQ 24/7 from many people's homes and most people's pockets.

10:17 schestowitz-TR2; don't forget "meta" ;-)

10:17 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft tried also, but it's a distant 6th or 10th...

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; linkedin is failing (more layoffs)

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; what were they thinking?

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; I wanted to say something else about eavesdropping but forgot. it was not so important anyway.

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; the "smart" car hype rapidly gets descriobed as a fad in the media

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; inc. EVs

10:18 schestowitz-TR2; esp. now with energy shortages

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; if you can teach even a dozen people something related to tech

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; and those (each) teach another dozen the same, then the impact is there

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; I wish FSF wrote more articles

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; their advocacy has been muted and "meetings" in IRC have very limited reach

10:20 schestowitz-TR2; they also lost a lot of audience, which did not migrate frdom ffeenode to cancelnode

10:31 Techrights-sec; Their move to "cancel node" was unwise, especially since there was a prime

10:31 Techrights-sec; opportunity to showcase the benefits of self-hosting.

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; not to sound pushy or anything,

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; is the image uploader considered ready for production given its successful use for a whole, sans animated gifs?

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; in zfs quotes are needed or removal or trailing "?crap"

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; and then again, we thought about integrating it into add

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; and having just changed that process for search, maybe better to first let that new change settle for a few days before introducing another change

10:35 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is posting pages atm

10:40 Techrights-sec; It is just about ready, as long as animated GIFs are avoided.

10:41 schestowitz-TR2; I will add an aliad for rianne and marius later

10:41 schestowitz-TR2; marius later, rianne now

10:41 schestowitz-TR2; to see if she copes ok

10:41 schestowitz-TR2; I call it 'upload'

10:41 schestowitz-TR2; *alias

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noon, September 13

12:07 schestowitz-TR2; see latest post

12:07 schestowitz-TR2; maybe guardian and billPR belong in the same plonkbin

12:10 Techrights-sec; ok

12:10 Techrights-sec; education or training :(

12:10 schestowitz-TR2; all I can say is,

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; like most kids I accidentally found pr0n

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; several times

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; and it was always a negative experience

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; I don't think NPR should find a way to weasel its way out of it

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; they just don't give a shit about kids

12:11 schestowitz-TR2; [11:58] <techrights-news> Normal people: folks who say toddlers should be told about sex are sick perverts. NPR: Bill Gates pays us. We should give a platform to those "sick perverts".

12:12 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft Peters saaid to parents he would "teach" their kids

12:12 schestowitz-TR2; aged about 9

12:12 schestowitz-TR2; and he did

12:34 Techrights-sec; :( :(

12:34 Techrights-sec; no wonder the Gates are involved

12:35 schestowitz-TR2; in the court of public opinion they have lost already or are actively losing

12:35 schestowitz-TR2; testing the water to see if a comeback does more harm than "good"

12:35 schestowitz-TR2; I think he's done for

12:35 schestowitz-TR2; (tbh)

12:37 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "The United States is already a global leader in traffic-related fatalities" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/

12:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Extreme Weight Of Large Electric Vehicles Is Going To Be A Very Dangerous Problem | Techdirt

12:46 Techrights-sec; I hope he is done for, but for now he has his flunkies spending more time

12:46 Techrights-sec; in DC than in Redmond. They seem to have direct access to most top politicians

12:46 Techrights-sec; and as a side effect are collapsing the "cyber" readiness of the nation.

12:46 Techrights-sec; That's not good, neither the corruption that both feeds and thrives on nor

12:46 Techrights-sec; the collapsing state of digital defense.

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; right, for certain

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; it's all relative

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; you cannot topple people at that level overnight

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; you can try, but being a thorn on the side is already something

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; he wasn't a person who rose to it

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; he was born into it

12:48 schestowitz-TR2; like Liz II

12:50 Techrights-sec; The US Gov certainly knows exactly where he is and how to reach him

12:50 Techrights-sec; whether with papers or anything else.

12:50 Techrights-sec; Yes, he comes from at least several generations of wealth and his mom basically

12:50 Techrights-sec; maneuvered the IBM desktop monopoly into his hands. The rest was played from

12:50 Techrights-sec; his college majors, Risk(tm) and poker. The former is mostly about conniving and extending monopolies. The latter is about bullshitting and posturing.

12:51 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Weapons Industry https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam | Source: Common Dreams; NOT just "traditional" weapons, also electronic: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

↺ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam

http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/

12:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Weapons Industry as a Taxpayer Scam | Julia Gledhill

12:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights

12:54 Techrights-sec; https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/product/risk-game:2C7C6F52-5056-9047-F5DD-EB8AC273BA4C

↺ https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/product/risk-game:2C7C6F52-5056-9047-F5DD-EB8AC273BA4C

12:54 Techrights-sec; Every time the US bails out M$ or does anyting short of prosecution of its

12:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.hasbro.com | NO TITLE

12:54 Techrights-sec; executives it hurts its readiness, defense, economy, and national productivity.

12:54 Techrights-sec; https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/

↺ https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/

12:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.economicshelp.org | The broken window fallacy - Economics Help

12:55 schestowitz-TR2; they keep smashing windows to "protect jobs"

12:55 schestowitz-TR2; they should instead smash the Windows monopoly

12:55 schestowitz-TR2; and get stuff done

12:56 schestowitz-TR2; but dominating other nations' PCs from afar would get harder

12:56 schestowitz-TR2; "it might lead to dancing"

12:56 Techrights-sec; or karaoke

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12:58 schestowitz; https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/sweden-dancing-illegal-spontaneous-law-a7905531.html

↺ https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/sweden-dancing-illegal-spontaneous-law-a7905531.html

12:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Spontaneous dancing still illegal in Sweden | The Independent | The Independent


1 PM, September 13

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13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> RMS is non-conformist (never was); that has been weaponised by a whole bunch of losers who try to signal to evil, murderous corporations that they're conformist and willing to cross the "heretic"

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; --> starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> CoCs are pledges of allegiance to the murderous people whose behaviour must never be questioned

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; CoCs create classes of people (the "ENFORCER/S") who are invulnerable to the Rule of Law. They ARE the law. http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/

http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- techrights.org | Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPOs Code of Conduct | Techrights

13:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPOs Code of Conduct | Techrights

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Code of Conduct (CoC) is a very old concept. It's an ENABLER OF CRIMES. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

13:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | Techrights

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- techrights.org | Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | Techrights

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> It's not at all a coincidence that CoCs are most vigorously promoted by those who are salaried by the most heinous criminals in the world. They're protecting the criminals from critics. The sad thing is, most of them don't realise the extent to which they're being used. It's NOT about protecting minorities but about protecting the powerful.

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; A society forced to condone the crimes of some -- e.g. "royals" -- is not a society based upon any concept like Rule of the Law, to say the least

13:17 schestowitz-TR2; Code of Conduct (CoC) as proposed by criminals of the highest order in Europe. They even used the term CoC like a decade ago. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/

13:18 Techrights-sec; https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/

↺ https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/

13:18 Techrights-sec; https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy

↺ https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy

13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rationalwiki.org | Broken window fallacy - RationalWiki

13:35 Techrights-sec; ack

13:35 schestowitz-TR2; rianne now adds images OK

13:35 schestowitz-TR2; that was fast

13:35 Techrights-sec; Nice


2 PM, September 13

14:25 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Hany Farid is a computer science professor at Berkeley. Here he is insisting that his students should all delete Facebook and YouTube" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/

14:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fearmongering CS Professor Insists That Californias Design Code Is Nothing To Worry About. Hes Wrong | Techdirt

14:26 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "To be clear, the shift from traditional cable television to streaming TV has been a very good thing." No, not quite. DRM and "you own nothing" is NOT progress. Cannot even make COPIES (no VCR) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/

14:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Youre Living In The True Golden Age Of Television. Enjoy It, Because Its About To End. | Techdirt

14:26 Techrights-sec; That's not fearmongering. There are many, many solid reasons for that position.

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; techdirt has been consistently pro-gafam

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; protecting them from critic, private and public

14:27 schestowitz-TR2; that's one thing I don't like tbh

14:28 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Social control media is toxic crap. We should collectively abandon it to solve this issue. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/ | Source: Techdirt

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/

14:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EFF Asks Ninth Circuit To Toss Two Stupid Lawsuits Claiming Federal Government Is Moderating Social Media Users | Techdirt

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; techdirt, mind you, is not a person

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; but about half a dozen people

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; one of whom (last I checked not from kate) is glyn moody

14:30 schestowitz-TR2; so the stance of one writer might be reserved to that one person, not a collective

14:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> UK: from "eat or heat" to "FUNERAL AND CORONATION"

14:41 Techrights-sec; ack

14:52 Techrights-sec; I would go out of my way to read Glyn's articles, if there were a way to find

14:52 Techrights-sec; them.

14:53 schestowitz-TR2; they moved to wordpress.com

14:53 schestowitz-TR2; so you could probably click in his name, then add "/feed/" to the end of teh url e.g. glynmoody/feed/

14:59 Techrights-sec; THe link they had was broken, but I figured out this one manually:

14:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.techdirt.com/user/glynmoody/feed/

↺ https://www.techdirt.com/user/glynmoody/feed/


3 PM, September 13

15:09 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Apple pandering to idiots and EFF pandering to Apple in "Bay Area"; EFF become a hipsters' cargo cult (ALL these devices spy a lot, but that does not bother EFF) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode | Source: EFF

↺ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode

15:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFFs Cover Your Tracks Will Detect Your Use of iOS 16s Lockdown Mode | Electronic Frontier Foundation

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; PGP evil

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; Apple good

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; Award to Microisoft

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; uses DuckDuckMicrosoft

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; F* EFF

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; not a word on several very important issues

15:10 schestowitz-TR2; of course they never got back to me on EPO

15:11 schestowitz-TR2; Cindy Cohn should use that 50+ million dollars in the bank account to issue refunds to supporters who gave a damn

15:20 schestowitz-TR2; many orgs cash in, pack up, and vanish

15:20 Techrights-sec; I wonder what would prompt the EFF to address software patents or, especially,

15:20 Techrights-sec; the EPO either publicly or in private.

15:20 Techrights-sec; Yes, it looks like they are simply cashing in on the name as a path towards

15:20 Techrights-sec; a quiet and meek exit.

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; analogy for LF

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; millions cheer for "Linux"

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; add brand value

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; Zemlin and the frauds cash in

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; EFF: supporters, journalists, staff build a brand

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; worth of work: huge

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; exit free: maybe 1%, still a lof when the impact's worth is measured at billions

15:21 schestowitz-TR2; *exit fee

15:37 Techrights-sec; ack

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16:41 schestowitz-TR2; ota

16:41 schestowitz-TR2; 30 mins

16:41 schestowitz-TR2; zdnet is a sham

16:41 schestowitz-TR2; i hope it dies soon

16:41 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> The founders of EFF care about the MISSION of EFF. The people currently in charge, however, seem to care only about money they can raise by milking to brand. Also compare Torvalds to Zemlin.

16:42 Techrights-sec; It would be good, though there were some top quality articles from 20 years ago

16:42 Techrights-sec; So I hope that the old part of their archives remain. The new stuff would not

16:42 Techrights-sec; be a loss though.

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16:43 schestowitz-TR2; the old stuff is barely possible to find and might in fact be offline already

16:43 schestowitz-TR2; if there is "no bueiness value" in it

16:43 schestowitz-TR2; it's like letting MBAs run a library

16:43 Techrights-sec; It's more or less impossible to find, sadly enough. But that seems to be

16:43 Techrights-sec; one of their priorities, short of outright deletion.

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16:44 schestowitz-TR2; former editor (iirc), berlind/ner), started another sie, progrmmableweb

16:45 schestowitz-TR2; but it fell off the radar during pandemic

16:45 schestowitz-TR2; maybve the site is dead already

16:45 schestowitz-TR2; he left an interesting article upon his departure

16:50 Techrights-sec; They had a bunch of really good authors for a while, but that was long ago.

16:50 Techrights-sec; Someday it'd be useful and, maybe, interesting to find out what M$ did to SJVN

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; he called microsoft "linuc company" earlier this summer

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; he plays the card of

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; "i was against them"

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; "htye have changed"

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; that's a very powerful card for microsoft to hold

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; like odf creator saying ooml is ok

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; they tried to hide mgj too

16:52 schestowitz-TR2; *hire


5 PM, September 13

17:03 Techrights-sec; Yes, SJVN selling out does a lot of damage in some ways. Probably everyone

17:03 Techrights-sec; realizes he has flipped, but for microsofters it is very convenient to have

17:03 Techrights-sec; their words come from his mouth.

17:03 Techrights-sec; Add Durusau to the list. Something bad happened to him on his visit there.

17:03 Techrights-sec; s/bad/very bad/

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17:37 Techrights-sec; If even one person could speak as an insider about M$ politics and lack of

17:37 Techrights-sec; security, like is happening with Twitter, it would be closed down in a week.

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; and now /. is meetooing LF

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; in the LINUX section

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; not related to Linux at all

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; openwashing some "wallet" shit

17:37 schestowitz-TR2; virtual money

17:37 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/

http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/

17:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights


6 PM, September 13

18:08 Techrights-sec; Yes, but that is just not even scratching the surface. There have been so

18:08 Techrights-sec; many hints about far, far worse.

18:08 Techrights-sec; And not just to the US government either. But it comes at the cost of having

18:08 Techrights-sec; an infrastructure which is completely permeable not only to domestic agencies

18:08 Techrights-sec; but also to *all* (or any that care to try) foreign ones.

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; empire protect thoise that control them, not those who fight for them

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; compliicity with gov is a SELLING POINT

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; just not to users

18:09 schestowitz-TR2; but to governments

18:10 Techrights-sec; ack


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