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08:30 Techrights-sec; gm
08:30 Techrights-sec; Two scripts and the database structure are now set up to begin to retain
08:30 Techrights-sec; plain text without the markup. That is necessary preparation for full text
08:30 Techrights-sec; searching. It's been tested locally but not in-place. Please double check
08:30 Techrights-sec; the addition and updating of records.
08:31 schestowitz-TR2; you want me to double check that when posting and updating things seem sane, right?
08:31 Techrights-sec; Yes, thanks
08:31 Techrights-sec; It /should/ be ok, but a second set of eyes is essential.
08:32 schestowitz-TR2; I wanted to ask,
08:32 schestowitz-TR2; [08:29] <techrights-news> Notice how SJVN and OIN refuse or fail to speak about software patents as the issue, they blame "trolls". IBM, Microsoft, LF etc. are not against software patents; watch who they collect bribes from!
08:33 schestowitz-TR2; is this something to cover in article/video?
08:33 schestowitz-TR2; SJVN is swpats shill
08:33 schestowitz-TR2; I thought I'd just ignore him
08:33 schestowitz-TR2; he and zdnet pushing the oin line
08:33 schestowitz-TR2; they are in another universe
08:33 Techrights-sec; I think so, since they are consciously choosing to promote software patents
08:33 Techrights-sec; through selective omission. That implies misdirection if not downright
08:33 Techrights-sec; dishonesty.
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; let's wait a day and see if there are follow-ups
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; or a better angle from which to tackle this
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; they cancel people who actually talk about the real issue
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; and real solutions to the issues
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; they want to pretend ICBM will be our ally
08:34 schestowitz-TR2; because... money
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08:35 Techrights-sec; Yes, which further emphasizes their active, conscious participation in
08:35 Techrights-sec; the promotion of software patents against the general backdrop of software
08:35 Techrights-sec; freedom. (It goes without saying that software patents are not a matter
08:35 Techrights-sec; for software developers or programmers, but an active harm against actual
08:35 Techrights-sec; end-users.)
08:41 schestowitz-TR2; draft
08:44 Techrights-sec; ack
08:44 Techrights-sec; More details on what is wrong with the handling of the certificates is needed.
08:44 Techrights-sec; The one link with the transcript provides that information but a few words or a
08:44 Techrights-sec; couple of lines of summary would help greatly.
08:44 Techrights-sec; Hint: CAs
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes I make errors
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; if judged not to be too huge, I don't try to undo
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; because last time I tried it caused chaos on my home network
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; due to the log giles being gigabyes in size
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; *files
08:49 schestowitz-TR2; dasya ago, to sanitise away binary crap from the unplanned shutdown, I had to stop several services first
08:54 Techrights-sec; ack
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; btw, I spent a lot of time recipe hunting
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I realise I really suck at cooking
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; but then again we live in a generation like that
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; imagine getting "that was tasty" instead of "you got a like"
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I remember when mothers cooked
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; now the mothers are like kids
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; with their "smart" phones and selfies
09:01 schestowitz-TR2; I found no obvious errors in the capsule
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; ---
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; I think the media now teaches both men and womewn that cooking is a sign of weakeness
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; and they should instead be consumeers of processed foods with preservatives
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; somer of which can contribute to trumour cell
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; *tumour
09:03 schestowitz-TR2; we spoke about it yesterday in relation to an aunt
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; --
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; I've just made copy of the irc lines re sjvn
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes instead of scripting I just think about the issues for a while
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; like in the kitchen
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; and then the arguments come out a little better
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; after thinking them over
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; maybe more links will become available
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; I have not kept track of patent news in a while and not much is missed
09:08 schestowitz-TR2; as journalism there too is stagnant or non-existent
09:09 Techrights-sec; Checking links
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; road-ahead sign: irc a bit noisy this week, I've decided to look away a little more
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; until it resettles
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; it's often like this when matey becomes active and people respond
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; I am improving the layout here and writing some tiny tools
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; when the new setup is in place we can produce more suitably for the 2023 era
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; regarding trend ocean, I 'll monitor his "content" for a week maybe
09:13 schestowitz-TR2; perhaps we can then decide what to do
09:13 Techrights-sec; Notice the tabloids ridicule Andrew but avoid mentioning why
09:13 Techrights-sec; ack
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; tabloids are always full of it
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; I just ignore them
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; sometimes I look at the covers for a laugh when rianne pays for food and I wait around
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; all in all, the culture here is still good; the target audience of tabloids is typically
09:16 schestowitz-TR2; the 'lower' class, to put it politely
09:22 schestowitz-TR2; being in the underclass somewhere like iceland might be no better than being among the elites in macao or lagos or some other "rich island"
09:22 schestowitz-TR2; the uk caused suffering inwards and outwards and used booze inwards (opium outwards) to soften ... looking for another words here ... the masses
09:22 schestowitz-TR2; class here is still a thing, but only if you actively socialise.
09:22 schestowitz-TR2; lull, captivate, hyponotiuse, paralyse... still forgot the word I had in mind...
09:23 schestowitz-TR2; going for coffee, the word might come back if i don't stare at a monitor
09:30 Techrights-sec; pacify?
09:30 Techrights-sec; The global smartphone market looks like the new Opium Wars
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; yes!
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; or neutralise, hypnotise, zombify
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; the last is apt a term for "smart" phone
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; I didn't know about opium wars until 10 years ago
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; many orgs that used to fight for civil rights become corporate pacifiers
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; like oin
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; worse,
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; a) opium did not report back on the subject
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; b) opium needs cultivating, farming, transporting
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; c) the age for opium is typically higher
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; ...
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; people no longer garden for food nor can they cook anything
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; making them a lot more dependent on the "supply chain"
09:35 schestowitz-TR2; as noteed earlier
09:36 Techrights-sec; opiumwars++
09:36 Techrights-sec; It does share the characteristics of pacification and neutralization, however.
09:36 Techrights-sec; Yes, it hits them before their teens. See some of the health articles about
09:36 Techrights-sec; the severe, permanent damage that does, not to mention what it does to the
09:36 Techrights-sec; removing the ability to eventually be ready for participation in society.
09:36 Techrights-sec; In some areas, I have heard, that the new houses and apartments, and renovated
09:36 Techrights-sec; ones, are basically made without kitchens.
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09:38 schestowitz-TR2; yes, people now pay rent the same as before but for low-quality aparthotel or small hotel room
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; not studio per se
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; but just a fridge
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; no kitchen
09:38 schestowitz-TR2; it has a "dining area" (read: table)
09:43 Techrights-sec; The weird ones are the sites where the kitchens and kitchenettes are removed
09:43 Techrights-sec; during "renovation"
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; I'm sure they make up for it with referctories;-)
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; cooking takes a loit of time
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; but it's the different between dying young or old
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; and spending 200-300 ppm or just 50-50
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; *150
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; working harder kills, too
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; more financial demands => shorter life
09:46 schestowitz-TR2; "PLEASE INSERT COINS"
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; regarding the link you sent about self-hosting email
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; there is a middle ground
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; a shared account with webhost outside the home
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; that lets you manage everything from within your domain
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; on a shared IP adress
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; they handle the address reputation
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; and even inform you if there is a scatterback
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; email is not encrypted
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; very few people will be able to send AND receive encrypted mail from you
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; so the argument about privacy hardly holds
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; at work, a colleague bragged email was on encrypted file system
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; I reminded him we outsourced to AWS
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; and never encrypt email even though 12 years ago I did try to suggest it
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; he bought a $1,000 steel door
09:54 schestowitz-TR2; but left the window wide open
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; ===
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; there is a solution to all this: avoid email, whenever possible. or be passive about them. I think I now average 2 outgoing emails per day
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; the temptation is further reduce (or the incentive) when you only open it twice a day and only go through unknown sources or origins once a week or less
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; voice chat is a tricky one but avoiding personal topics makes sense, as not everything said out aloud is recorded (knowingly or unknowingly) or typed down
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; the coundaries are blurred by those listening devices, which are now advertsed using gimmicks like "can recognise voice/accent/language"
10:00 schestowitz-TR2; which means scanning of the audio content, turning it into text, as a 'feature'... ti "improve your experience"
10:12 schestowitz-TR2; to the media this should all be "common ssnse", but it seldom warns people. regarding phonecalls, one should assume that what's feasible is done at all
10:13 schestowitz-TR2; times, but then talks over the phone would get dry and platonic, even business calls. they want people to become "open books"
10:16 Techrights-sec; Amazon, Google, and Apple have a multitude of "smart", always-on microphones
10:16 Techrights-sec; reporting back to HQ 24/7 from many people's homes and most people's pockets.
10:17 schestowitz-TR2; don't forget "meta" ;-)
10:17 schestowitz-TR2; microsoft tried also, but it's a distant 6th or 10th...
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; linkedin is failing (more layoffs)
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; what were they thinking?
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; I wanted to say something else about eavesdropping but forgot. it was not so important anyway.
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; the "smart" car hype rapidly gets descriobed as a fad in the media
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; inc. EVs
10:18 schestowitz-TR2; esp. now with energy shortages
10:20 schestowitz-TR2; if you can teach even a dozen people something related to tech
10:20 schestowitz-TR2; and those (each) teach another dozen the same, then the impact is there
10:20 schestowitz-TR2; I wish FSF wrote more articles
10:20 schestowitz-TR2; their advocacy has been muted and "meetings" in IRC have very limited reach
10:20 schestowitz-TR2; they also lost a lot of audience, which did not migrate frdom ffeenode to cancelnode
10:31 Techrights-sec; Their move to "cancel node" was unwise, especially since there was a prime
10:31 Techrights-sec; opportunity to showcase the benefits of self-hosting.
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; not to sound pushy or anything,
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; is the image uploader considered ready for production given its successful use for a whole, sans animated gifs?
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; in zfs quotes are needed or removal or trailing "?crap"
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; and then again, we thought about integrating it into add
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; and having just changed that process for search, maybe better to first let that new change settle for a few days before introducing another change
10:35 schestowitz-TR2; rianne is posting pages atm
10:40 Techrights-sec; It is just about ready, as long as animated GIFs are avoided.
10:41 schestowitz-TR2; I will add an aliad for rianne and marius later
10:41 schestowitz-TR2; marius later, rianne now
10:41 schestowitz-TR2; to see if she copes ok
10:41 schestowitz-TR2; I call it 'upload'
10:41 schestowitz-TR2; *alias
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12:07 schestowitz-TR2; see latest post
12:07 schestowitz-TR2; maybe guardian and billPR belong in the same plonkbin
12:10 Techrights-sec; ok
12:10 Techrights-sec; education or training :(
12:10 schestowitz-TR2; all I can say is,
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; like most kids I accidentally found pr0n
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; several times
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; and it was always a negative experience
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; I don't think NPR should find a way to weasel its way out of it
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; they just don't give a shit about kids
12:11 schestowitz-TR2; [11:58] <techrights-news> Normal people: folks who say toddlers should be told about sex are sick perverts. NPR: Bill Gates pays us. We should give a platform to those "sick perverts".
12:12 schestowitz-TR2; Microsoft Peters saaid to parents he would "teach" their kids
12:12 schestowitz-TR2; aged about 9
12:12 schestowitz-TR2; and he did
12:34 Techrights-sec; :( :(
12:34 Techrights-sec; no wonder the Gates are involved
12:35 schestowitz-TR2; in the court of public opinion they have lost already or are actively losing
12:35 schestowitz-TR2; testing the water to see if a comeback does more harm than "good"
12:35 schestowitz-TR2; I think he's done for
12:35 schestowitz-TR2; (tbh)
12:37 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "The United States is already a global leader in traffic-related fatalities" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/the-extreme-weight-of-large-electric-vehicles-is-going-to-be-a-very-dangerous-problem/ | Source: Techdirt
12:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-The Extreme Weight Of Large Electric Vehicles Is Going To Be A Very Dangerous Problem | Techdirt
12:46 Techrights-sec; I hope he is done for, but for now he has his flunkies spending more time
12:46 Techrights-sec; in DC than in Redmond. They seem to have direct access to most top politicians
12:46 Techrights-sec; and as a side effect are collapsing the "cyber" readiness of the nation.
12:46 Techrights-sec; That's not good, neither the corruption that both feeds and thrives on nor
12:46 Techrights-sec; the collapsing state of digital defense.
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; right, for certain
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; it's all relative
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; you cannot topple people at that level overnight
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; you can try, but being a thorn on the side is already something
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; he wasn't a person who rose to it
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; he was born into it
12:48 schestowitz-TR2; like Liz II
12:50 Techrights-sec; The US Gov certainly knows exactly where he is and how to reach him
12:50 Techrights-sec; whether with papers or anything else.
12:50 Techrights-sec; Yes, he comes from at least several generations of wealth and his mom basically
12:50 Techrights-sec; maneuvered the IBM desktop monopoly into his hands. The rest was played from
12:50 Techrights-sec; his college majors, Risk(tm) and poker. The former is mostly about conniving and extending monopolies. The latter is about bullshitting and posturing.
12:51 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Weapons Industry https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/09/12/weapons-industry-taxpayer-scam | Source: Common Dreams; NOT just "traditional" weapons, also electronic: http://techrights.org/2022/02/04/the-united-states-government-should-quit-bailing-out-microsoft-at-taxpayers-expense/
12:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Weapons Industry as a Taxpayer Scam | Julia Gledhill
12:51 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The United States Government Should Quit Bailing Out Microsoft at Taxpayers Expense | Techrights
12:54 Techrights-sec; https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/product/risk-game:2C7C6F52-5056-9047-F5DD-EB8AC273BA4C
12:54 Techrights-sec; Every time the US bails out M$ or does anyting short of prosecution of its
12:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-shop.hasbro.com | NO TITLE
12:54 Techrights-sec; executives it hurts its readiness, defense, economy, and national productivity.
12:54 Techrights-sec; https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/
12:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.economicshelp.org | The broken window fallacy - Economics Help
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; they keep smashing windows to "protect jobs"
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; they should instead smash the Windows monopoly
12:55 schestowitz-TR2; and get stuff done
12:56 schestowitz-TR2; but dominating other nations' PCs from afar would get harder
12:56 schestowitz-TR2; "it might lead to dancing"
12:56 Techrights-sec; or karaoke
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12:58 schestowitz; https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/sweden-dancing-illegal-spontaneous-law-a7905531.html
12:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.independent.co.uk | Spontaneous dancing still illegal in Sweden | The Independent | The Independent
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13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> RMS is non-conformist (never was); that has been weaponised by a whole bunch of losers who try to signal to evil, murderous corporations that they're conformist and willing to cross the "heretic"
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; --> starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #boycottnovell-social
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> CoCs are pledges of allegiance to the murderous people whose behaviour must never be questioned
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; CoCs create classes of people (the "ENFORCER/S") who are invulnerable to the Rule of Law. They ARE the law. http://techrights.org/2016/04/08/battistelli-epo-scorecard/
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- techrights.org | Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPOs Code of Conduct | Techrights
13:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Busted Battistelli: EPO President Violating the EPOs Code of Conduct | Techrights
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Code of Conduct (CoC) is a very old concept. It's an ENABLER OF CRIMES. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/
13:17 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | Techrights
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; -TechrightsSocial/#boycottnovell-social- techrights.org | Raw: How and Why the EPO Code of Conduct (CoC) Came About | Techrights
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> It's not at all a coincidence that CoCs are most vigorously promoted by those who are salaried by the most heinous criminals in the world. They're protecting the criminals from critics. The sad thing is, most of them don't realise the extent to which they're being used. It's NOT about protecting minorities but about protecting the powerful.
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; A society forced to condone the crimes of some -- e.g. "royals" -- is not a society based upon any concept like Rule of the Law, to say the least
13:17 schestowitz-TR2; Code of Conduct (CoC) as proposed by criminals of the highest order in Europe. They even used the term CoC like a decade ago. http://techrights.org/2017/12/30/genesis-of-battistelli-code-of-conduct/
13:18 Techrights-sec; https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/150529/concepts/the-broken-window-fallacy/
13:18 Techrights-sec; https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Broken_window_fallacy
13:18 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-rationalwiki.org | Broken window fallacy - RationalWiki
13:35 Techrights-sec; ack
13:35 schestowitz-TR2; rianne now adds images OK
13:35 schestowitz-TR2; that was fast
13:35 Techrights-sec; Nice
14:25 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "Hany Farid is a computer science professor at Berkeley. Here he is insisting that his students should all delete Facebook and YouTube" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/fearmongering-cs-professor-insists-that-californias-design-code-is-nothing-to-worry-about-hes-wrong/ | Source: Techdirt
14:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fearmongering CS Professor Insists That Californias Design Code Is Nothing To Worry About. Hes Wrong | Techdirt
14:26 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> "To be clear, the shift from traditional cable television to streaming TV has been a very good thing." No, not quite. DRM and "you own nothing" is NOT progress. Cannot even make COPIES (no VCR) https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/youre-living-in-the-true-golden-age-of-television-enjoy-it-because-its-about-to-end/ | Source: Techdirt
14:26 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Youre Living In The True Golden Age Of Television. Enjoy It, Because Its About To End. | Techdirt
14:26 Techrights-sec; That's not fearmongering. There are many, many solid reasons for that position.
14:27 schestowitz-TR2; techdirt has been consistently pro-gafam
14:27 schestowitz-TR2; protecting them from critic, private and public
14:27 schestowitz-TR2; that's one thing I don't like tbh
14:28 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Social control media is toxic crap. We should collectively abandon it to solve this issue. https://www.techdirt.com/2022/09/12/eff-asks-ninth-circuit-to-toss-two-stupid-lawsuits-claiming-federal-government-is-moderating-social-media-users/ | Source: Techdirt
14:28 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-EFF Asks Ninth Circuit To Toss Two Stupid Lawsuits Claiming Federal Government Is Moderating Social Media Users | Techdirt
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; techdirt, mind you, is not a person
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; but about half a dozen people
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; one of whom (last I checked not from kate) is glyn moody
14:30 schestowitz-TR2; so the stance of one writer might be reserved to that one person, not a collective
14:36 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> UK: from "eat or heat" to "FUNERAL AND CORONATION"
14:41 Techrights-sec; ack
14:52 Techrights-sec; I would go out of my way to read Glyn's articles, if there were a way to find
14:52 Techrights-sec; them.
14:53 schestowitz-TR2; they moved to wordpress.com
14:53 schestowitz-TR2; so you could probably click in his name, then add "/feed/" to the end of teh url e.g. glynmoody/feed/
14:59 Techrights-sec; THe link they had was broken, but I figured out this one manually:
14:59 Techrights-sec; https://www.techdirt.com/user/glynmoody/feed/
15:09 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> Apple pandering to idiots and EFF pandering to Apple in "Bay Area"; EFF become a hipsters' cargo cult (ALL these devices spy a lot, but that does not bother EFF) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/09/effs-cover-your-tracks-will-detect-your-use-ios-16s-lockdown-mode | Source: EFF
15:09 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.eff.org | EFFs Cover Your Tracks Will Detect Your Use of iOS 16s Lockdown Mode | Electronic Frontier Foundation
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; PGP evil
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; Apple good
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; Award to Microisoft
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; uses DuckDuckMicrosoft
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; F* EFF
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; not a word on several very important issues
15:10 schestowitz-TR2; of course they never got back to me on EPO
15:11 schestowitz-TR2; Cindy Cohn should use that 50+ million dollars in the bank account to issue refunds to supporters who gave a damn
15:20 schestowitz-TR2; many orgs cash in, pack up, and vanish
15:20 Techrights-sec; I wonder what would prompt the EFF to address software patents or, especially,
15:20 Techrights-sec; the EPO either publicly or in private.
15:20 Techrights-sec; Yes, it looks like they are simply cashing in on the name as a path towards
15:20 Techrights-sec; a quiet and meek exit.
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; analogy for LF
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; millions cheer for "Linux"
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; add brand value
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; Zemlin and the frauds cash in
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; EFF: supporters, journalists, staff build a brand
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; worth of work: huge
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; exit free: maybe 1%, still a lof when the impact's worth is measured at billions
15:21 schestowitz-TR2; *exit fee
15:37 Techrights-sec; ack
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16:41 schestowitz-TR2; ota
16:41 schestowitz-TR2; 30 mins
16:41 schestowitz-TR2; zdnet is a sham
16:41 schestowitz-TR2; i hope it dies soon
16:41 schestowitz-TR2; <techrights-news> The founders of EFF care about the MISSION of EFF. The people currently in charge, however, seem to care only about money they can raise by milking to brand. Also compare Torvalds to Zemlin.
16:42 Techrights-sec; It would be good, though there were some top quality articles from 20 years ago
16:42 Techrights-sec; So I hope that the old part of their archives remain. The new stuff would not
16:42 Techrights-sec; be a loss though.
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16:43 schestowitz-TR2; the old stuff is barely possible to find and might in fact be offline already
16:43 schestowitz-TR2; if there is "no bueiness value" in it
16:43 schestowitz-TR2; it's like letting MBAs run a library
16:43 Techrights-sec; It's more or less impossible to find, sadly enough. But that seems to be
16:43 Techrights-sec; one of their priorities, short of outright deletion.
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16:44 schestowitz-TR2; former editor (iirc), berlind/ner), started another sie, progrmmableweb
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; but it fell off the radar during pandemic
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; maybve the site is dead already
16:45 schestowitz-TR2; he left an interesting article upon his departure
16:50 Techrights-sec; They had a bunch of really good authors for a while, but that was long ago.
16:50 Techrights-sec; Someday it'd be useful and, maybe, interesting to find out what M$ did to SJVN
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; he called microsoft "linuc company" earlier this summer
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; he plays the card of
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; "i was against them"
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; "htye have changed"
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; that's a very powerful card for microsoft to hold
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; like odf creator saying ooml is ok
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; they tried to hide mgj too
16:52 schestowitz-TR2; *hire
17:03 Techrights-sec; Yes, SJVN selling out does a lot of damage in some ways. Probably everyone
17:03 Techrights-sec; realizes he has flipped, but for microsofters it is very convenient to have
17:03 Techrights-sec; their words come from his mouth.
17:03 Techrights-sec; Add Durusau to the list. Something bad happened to him on his visit there.
17:03 Techrights-sec; s/bad/very bad/
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17:37 Techrights-sec; If even one person could speak as an insider about M$ politics and lack of
17:37 Techrights-sec; security, like is happening with Twitter, it would be closed down in a week.
17:37 schestowitz-TR2; and now /. is meetooing LF
17:37 schestowitz-TR2; in the LINUX section
17:37 schestowitz-TR2; not related to Linux at all
17:37 schestowitz-TR2; openwashing some "wallet" shit
17:37 schestowitz-TR2; virtual money
17:37 schestowitz; http://techrights.org/2014/07/31/microsoft-back-doors-admission/
17:37 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Former Microsoft Engineer Working on Windows BitLocker Confirms Government Asks Microsoft for Back Doors | Techrights
18:08 Techrights-sec; Yes, but that is just not even scratching the surface. There have been so
18:08 Techrights-sec; many hints about far, far worse.
18:08 Techrights-sec; And not just to the US government either. But it comes at the cost of having
18:08 Techrights-sec; an infrastructure which is completely permeable not only to domestic agencies
18:08 Techrights-sec; but also to *all* (or any that care to try) foreign ones.
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; empire protect thoise that control them, not those who fight for them
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; compliicity with gov is a SELLING POINT
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; just not to users
18:09 schestowitz-TR2; but to governments
18:10 Techrights-sec; ack
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