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00:45 schestowitz-TR; I've added list-rss-feed.sh to git
00:45 schestowitz-TR; not the list itself, but something that just flattens and sorts of opml
00:45 schestowitz-TR; this can be used to track additions of feeds over time
00:45 schestowitz-TR; for gemini we have two very long files, lists of xml feeds for gemini capsules
00:45 schestowitz-TR; the hope it to encourage people to use these
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11:07 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> This past weekend I've been hunting for RSS feeds. I'm shocked that some MSM sites became surprisingly small (very few original stories per day)
11:07 schestowitz-TR; btw, irc logs not posted yet
11:39 Techrights-sec2; IRC logs posted
11:39 schestowitz-TR; thanks, I'll post Daily Links now
11:39 schestowitz-TR; I'm still trying to net more and more RSS feeds
11:39 schestowitz-TR; identifying sites and sections that cover relevant topics, then pursuing feeds for these
11:39 schestowitz-TR; I find a ton of interesting things along the way
11:42 schestowitz-TR; is there something sensitive in the list of feeds (1150 or so in total, after dupe removal)? i've been trying to make a repeatable process with sorting to
11:42 schestowitz-TR; change-control the list, potentially, but realise some reveals stuff about the collector's taste
11:42 schestowitz-TR; I used to spend days hunting for RSS feeds, there's no authoritative source of an "OPML central" (which incidentally can be like DMOZ but for XML)
11:47 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:47 Techrights-sec2; the RSS feeds turn upwhen they turn up
11:52 schestowitz-TR; see /tmp/sorted-rss-feeds.txt
11:52 schestowitz-TR; output from list-rss-feed.sh
11:52 schestowitz-TR; just sent over as well
11:54 Techrights-sec2; ack
11:54 Techrights-sec2; is that generated with the latest version of the script?
11:56 schestowitz-TR; maybe I changed the filename a bit
11:59 Techrights-sec2; is that generated with the latest version of the script?
11:59 Techrights-sec2; check Git
11:59 schestowitz-TR; thanks
11:59 schestowitz-TR; (markdown works ok with git, xml with ordered sets and unordered sets is not git territories, hence no opml)
11:59 schestowitz-TR; checking git
12:02 schestowitz-TR; hang on, trying to avert multitasking overload
12:02 schestowitz-TR; learning froma recent past mistake...
12:02 schestowitz-TR; I think a next chapter for us, which merits promotion, is the concept of moving away from cenralised platforms of all sorts and using rss to do the "legwo
12:02 schestowitz-TR; rk"
12:02 schestowitz-TR; which is not the same as gemini, in geminispace too there's a growing centralisation issue as some provide gemini "hosting" for "accounts"
12:02 Techrights-sec2; ack
12:06 schestowitz-TR; ok, pushed
12:06 schestowitz-TR; people are lazy
12:06 schestowitz-TR; or unfamiliar with rss
12:06 schestowitz-TR; anything to lower the entry barrier can put them OFF social control media
12:06 schestowitz-TR; they think they "need" that to know what's new
12:20 Techrights-sec2; checking
12:22 schestowitz-TR; "I recently discovered that my ISP was blocking the domain 'rt.com'. This is the domain of a 'sanctioned' media company, Russia Today. Prior to Russia invading Ukraine, this was a mainstream news source." gemini://gemini.susa.net/shocking_dns_nothingness.gmi
12:30 Techrights-sec2; ack
12:31 schestowitz-TR; slippery slope
12:31 schestowitz-TR; 1. "pirate" sites (only after lengthy court battles, in some nations)
12:31 schestowitz-TR; 2. "news" source we do not agree with
12:31 schestowitz-TR; ...
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13:34 schestowitz-TR; draft
13:34 schestowitz-TR; I've just added a newer (shorter) one
13:34 schestowitz-TR; I think this subject is rarely explored
13:34 schestowitz-TR; In Gemini drawing a fake table is the only way
13:34 schestowitz-TR; with ''' (slanted)
13:34 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:34 Techrights-sec2; checking
13:34 Techrights-sec2; a regular HTML table would work there
13:34 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:41 Techrights-sec2; I seldom check youtube videos; even going in to specific known videos,
13:41 Techrights-sec2; they are filled with ads and you have to interact with the ad to get
13:41 Techrights-sec2; past it otherwise the video will not return. I'm a about completely
13:41 Techrights-sec2; done with youtube
13:42 schestowitz-TR; this morning while shaving I watched the latest video from robertson
13:42 schestowitz-TR; rianne makes fun of his voice, she cannot help it, says he sounds like female
13:42 schestowitz-TR; his video showed not much on the screen, but he pastes together many "takes"
13:42 schestowitz-TR; the video had little actual value because it was repetitive
13:42 schestowitz-TR; basically, arch good, but not for everything, coz hard...
13:42 schestowitz-TR; if you STILL want to watch youtube, do what rianne does and get librewold
13:42 schestowitz-TR; for now, at least, it rids you from lots of the crap
13:42 schestowitz-TR; she is glad to have lft firefox behind
13:42 schestowitz-TR; partly because of the viewing experience, while it lasts...
13:42 schestowitz-TR; afaik, yutube-dl and derivs are for downloading more than for streaming (yes, I know
13:42 schestowitz-TR; those are similar)
13:42 schestowitz-TR; if I see a video I really like, I download, keep, replay
13:43 Techrights-sec2; mosty empty commentary from him though sometimes on rare occasion quite
13:43 Techrights-sec2; insightful
13:43 Techrights-sec2; but the arch video was not one of the good ones
13:43 Techrights-sec2; youtube-dl still works most ofthe time but is very slow and can take an hour
13:43 Techrights-sec2; for a video that might be skipped sometimes after seeing the first seconds
13:43 Techrights-sec2; i see few of those and have no real way of properly cataloguing them
13:43 Techrights-sec2; there are on occasion those that I would prefer to bring public attention to
13:46 schestowitz-TR; there needs to be a IA/Wayback Machine for video
13:46 schestowitz-TR; I know they host videos, but that is not the same
13:46 schestowitz-TR; a lot of videos we linked to or used in techrgihts over the years are just blank slot now
13:46 schestowitz-TR; for some posts, the posts are rendered next to worthless, except near time of publicaiton
13:46 schestowitz-TR; like those that link to Lunduke videos
13:46 schestowitz-TR; he removed almost every video he ever made
13:47 Techrights-sec2; that had been Youtube before it was purchased
13:47 Techrights-sec2; LBRY is still there but is nearly 100% garbage,
13:47 Techrights-sec2; because of URLs it is still possible to point to useful material there
13:47 Techrights-sec2; but only if one comes in from the outside to a known good video
13:47 Techrights-sec2; searching and browsing will only bring garbage there
13:50 schestowitz-TR; LBRY seems like fakecoin inflation pump and dump
13:50 schestowitz-TR; with 'free' hosting as bait
13:50 schestowitz-TR; last night in gemini I saw a post about a similar platform that mandates you play the NFT spiel
13:50 schestowitz-TR; just to be admitted inside
13:50 schestowitz-TR; the way to go is peertube
13:50 schestowitz-TR; but unless it's a popular video with many peers it's too slow to get going
13:50 schestowitz-TR; even the blender instance of it was way too slow for me
13:50 schestowitz-TR; I did not try searching odysee, but I'm not too interested either
13:50 schestowitz-TR; it doesn't work in my browser of choice
13:51 Techrights-sec2; :(
13:51 Techrights-sec2; I've not used peertube, it's too slow :/
13:51 Techrights-sec2; Odysee is just a UI for LBRY the same comment applies there plus it is infected
13:51 Techrights-sec2; with gratuitious and useless javascript
13:55 schestowitz-TR; if the world's datacentres, CDNs and underwater cables can bear the load of gulagtube, netflix, iptv etc. then this is an allocaiton-of-capacity
13:55 schestowitz-TR; issue rather than a real technocal peril
13:55 schestowitz-TR; but "powers DAT BEEEE" like it the way it is and won't just give away the powers associated with centralisation and DRM
13:55 schestowitz-TR; better yet, with p2p you free up a lot of untapped capacity og bluetooth and wifi
13:55 schestowitz-TR; meshing for instance
13:55 schestowitz-TR; but efficiency isn't a priority, even for the so-called "green agenda" politicians
13:55 schestowitz-TR; they most resort to low-cost pandering with sound bites and distance-future promises, pledges
13:55 schestowitz-TR; apropos, give each person a 5 TB drive with "content", inc. wikipedia in all language, you'll help the planet vastly more
13:55 schestowitz-TR; than all those graft (boradbast access) programmes
13:55 schestowitz-TR; *brandband
13:55 Techrights-sec2; ack
13:55 Techrights-sec2; YaCy tried that but could not gain traction
14:33 Techrights-sec2; https://yacy.net/
14:33 Techrights-sec2; maybe after the mythical OS upgrade we can run an instance of YaCy at TR,
14:33 Techrights-sec2; first for the site itself, later for documents pointed to in the daily links
14:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-yacy.net | Home - YaCy
14:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, more likle migration to a new container or VM
14:34 schestowitz-TR; which depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is ready
14:34 schestowitz-TR; ipfs is a dht pollution machine
14:34 schestowitz-TR; akin to shitcoin with merkle trees
14:34 schestowitz-TR; I've grown dissatisfied
14:34 schestowitz-TR; the more you throw at it, the more it takes
14:34 schestowitz-TR; until you push the limits of hardware and network
14:34 schestowitz-TR; it's like a corporation :-)
14:34 schestowitz-TR; yes, more likle migration to a new container or VM
14:34 schestowitz-TR; which depends on the network too being configured to point to the new one when it is ready
14:56 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:57 schestowitz-TR; rss news have become calmer since not receiving microsofters in the feeds
14:57 schestowitz-TR; or spam or false positives
14:57 schestowitz-TR; I've just made some gemini fixes
14:57 schestowitz-TR; the trash there does exist, but it's not corporate trash
14:57 schestowitz-TR; just people with trash for brains sometimes
14:57 Techrights-sec2; ack
14:58 Techrights-sec2; checking
15:00 schestowitz-TR; i also learned some git syntax in the process
15:00 schestowitz-TR; like how to watch a particular old version of a file
15:00 schestowitz-TR; git show commit-id:path-to-file/file
15:00 schestowitz-TR; I was trying to understand how a dupe in the imports crept in
15:01 schestowitz-TR; I tried to model an addition based on an existing one, forgot to delete the model
15:01 schestowitz-TR; didn't notice until now
15:01 schestowitz-TR; the page to use is AllInOne.gmi
15:01 schestowitz-TR; that compresses everything and organised it
15:01 Techrights-sec2; yes
15:01 Techrights-sec2; ack
15:02 schestowitz-TR; had we used rss software that is extensible, it would be possible to do processing there too
15:02 schestowitz-TR; the automated feeds already do that to some degree, e.g. dupe detection
15:03 schestowitz-TR; also the spamSites.pm detection/matching
15:03 Techrights-sec2; ack
15:03 Techrights-sec2; yes there is some caching in the RSS specification or at least a request
15:03 Techrights-sec2; for how often is the maximum update frequency
15:08 schestowitz-TR; if impelemneted correctly, rss files are cheap to send, cheaper than most images
15:08 schestowitz-TR; cacing rss is very eay
15:08 schestowitz-TR; you only attach a trigger even to new "content" adds, modify the file once
15:08 schestowitz-TR; a page with 50 images in it should be more cumbersome for a server than 50 requests for the same rss feed
15:08 Techrights-sec2; /if/ implemented correctly, some embed whole articles :/
15:14 schestowitz-TR; giving full article rss is good practice
15:14 schestowitz-TR; appreciate by many
15:14 schestowitz-TR; appreciated
15:14 schestowitz-TR; it can actually help performane
15:14 schestowitz-TR; and lower toll on your site
15:14 schestowitz-TR; because people do not go to the site to get css files sd such
15:14 schestowitz-TR; full rss, full story text
15:14 schestowitz-TR; the issue is, some fear it would be leveraged for scraping and plagiarism (as happens)
15:14 schestowitz-TR; some sites cannot deal too well with relative paths (e.g. for images), so it also helps to have images and attachment as
15:14 schestowitz-TR; "self-contained"
15:14 schestowitz-TR; full story rss is terrible for metrics like "pageviews"
15:14 schestowitz-TR; because some people onlye ven fetch xml filkes
15:14 schestowitz-TR; and not even per-page xml
15:14 schestowitz-TR; in those cases, one surrogate for view, assuming the rss reader can diusplay image, is number of requests for an image in that page/post
15:14 Techrights-sec2; except that those badly done RSS feeds seem to fetch images too
15:14 Techrights-sec2; ack
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17:31 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#m
17:31 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Stuff like this is why I have to do things like get @schestowitz to re-host their crazy ass blog posts for posterity: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Create-stickiness-with-IP-Microsoft-Partner-Network.pdf"|nitter.it
17:33 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#m
17:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "apparently MS has my tweets monitored so I do plan to finish live tweeting seasons 4, 5 and 6 of Dawson's Creek for their entertainment"|nitter.it
17:34 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536116460359192576#m
17:34 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Kevin Beaumont (@GossiTheDog): "if u followed me for cybersecurity stuff, monday to fridays work hours i do boring cyber stuff, evenings is Love Island and Dawson's Creek, and Saturday and Sunday is video games."|nitter.it
17:34 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/GossiTheDog/status/1536118999221735426#m
17:34 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536378116137811968#m
17:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-mitchel lewis (@stautistic): "Totally a coincidence"|nitter.it
17:35 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#m
17:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC in Slovenia, someone checked if the 2/3 majority requirement was followed, apparently not http://techrights.org/2022/06/12/another-reason-unified-patent-court-upc-is-a-hostile-coup-that-will-fail/"|nitter.it
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18:27 schestowitz-TR; I am adding some changed that I've just tested successfull (first go)
18:27 schestowitz-TR; successfully with a small caveat
18:27 schestowitz-TR; that affects pages where you can have up to 365 days listed
18:27 schestowitz-TR; and groups them into months
18:27 schestowitz-TR; ok, pushed
18:27 schestowitz-TR; the changes are simple enough to be self-explanatory
18:27 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1536253258821509120#m
18:27 schestowitz-TR; https://nitter.it/stautistic/status/1536377800835289088#m
18:29 Techrights-sec2; ack
18:29 Techrights-sec2; ok
18:30 schestowitz-TR; I can clean my feeds a lot faster now, with gulkag removed
18:30 schestowitz-TR; and want to garden things more
18:30 schestowitz-TR; the highest priority iis OS migration, but there is a bottleneck who is in canada atm
18:30 Techrights-sec2; ack
18:30 Techrights-sec2; ack
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19:16 schestowitz-TR; LOL
19:16 schestowitz-TR; Mozilla does it again
19:16 schestowitz-TR; go to the Mozilla blog
19:16 schestowitz-TR; Maybe Moz thinks that Firefox users in subsaharan africa are a copy of SF/Bay Area
19:16 Techrights-sec2; checking
19:16 Techrights-sec2; link?
19:16 Techrights-sec2; oh, I see. The themes of the interviews. Nothing about tech, it seems.
19:19 schestowitz-TR; wait, this sucks
19:19 schestowitz-TR; the eitorial presentation in the site and rss feed is not the same
19:19 schestowitz-TR; I need anothher 'angle' on this
19:19 schestowitz-TR; also see what I published re phoronix moments ago
19:19 schestowitz-TR; wow, mozilla does not advertise rss feedsat lacllk
19:19 schestowitz-TR; but plenty of buttons for facebook, twitter, gulag
19:19 schestowitz-TR; they don't give a shit about the web
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19:32 Techrights-sec2; no rss feed, looked at https://blog.mozilla.org/en/latest/ instead
19:32 Techrights-sec2; Mozilla is to the web what LF is now to Linux
19:32 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-blog.mozilla.org | Latest - The Mozilla Blog
19:32 schestowitz-TR; exactly! see my draft
19:32 schestowitz-TR; we thought the same
19:32 Techrights-sec2; checking
19:32 Techrights-sec2; probably ought to mention specifically what made Mozilla popular in the "old"
19:32 Techrights-sec2; days
19:32 Techrights-sec2; -- standards and a lean, modular, FOSS browser
19:44 schestowitz-TR; rephrased
19:44 schestowitz-TR; in draft
19:50 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Coronavirus Celebrated Jubilee https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/13/covid19-celebrated-jubilee/
19:50 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Coronavirus Celebrated Jubilee
19:53 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:55 schestowitz-TR; go celebrate with grandma liz (well, you paid for the party anyway... already.. through tax)
19:55 schestowitz-TR; don't worry if your own grandma died later because you gave her something
19:56 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:58 schestowitz-TR; across the road from us there is a stadium with ~50k seating capacity
19:58 schestowitz-TR; not counting the pitch
19:58 schestowitz-TR; they had 5 or 6 concerns here this month
19:58 schestowitz-TR; eo you can estimate how many "kids" passed near us
19:58 schestowitz-TR; rianne did a lot of the trips to town for food
19:58 schestowitz-TR; and she complained about how reckles these people are
19:58 schestowitz-TR; you would not know we're worse off than summer 2020 and 2021
19:58 schestowitz-TR; I showed it in my blog
19:58 Techrights-sec2; ack
19:58 Techrights-sec2; :(
19:58 Techrights-sec2; they are shortsighted and careless
19:59 schestowitz-TR; it might not kill them
19:59 schestowitz-TR; 'only' loved ones
20:01 schestowitz-TR; to covid-19 they are not just superspreaders
20:01 schestowitz-TR; but "SUPERNODES"
20:01 schestowitz-TR; they are conduits through which to reach more vulnerable human tissues
20:01 schestowitz-TR; but the media is "tried" of THAT crisis
20:01 schestowitz-TR; *tired
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20:22 schestowitz-TR; )just did some housekeeping in TM: test local backup, messages (syslog), mysql.log; all OK. Just needed the affirmation)
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