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04:44 Techrights-sec; deduplicated yesterday's HTML IRC logs
05:07 Techrights-sec; does irclog2html.py have UTF-8 problems?
05:07 Techrights-sec; ^scratch that. looking elsewhere
05:07 Techrights-sec; fixed
05:08 schestowitz-TR; gm
05:08 schestowitz-TR; I may have overslept a bit
05:08 schestowitz-TR; mild headache
05:08 schestowitz-TR; not de to stress
05:08 schestowitz-TR; there was no stress at all
05:08 Techrights-sec; gm
05:08 Techrights-sec; np
05:08 Techrights-sec; stress from yesterday? light workout usually helps
05:08 Techrights-sec; good
05:13 schestowitz-TR; today the plan is to cycle and bring back food 'downhill'
05:13 schestowitz-TR; because it should be nice and sunny
05:13 schestowitz-TR; and I want to be out more
05:13 schestowitz-TR; I should stiill be able to produce a lot
05:13 schestowitz-TR; this is consideered exercise
05:13 schestowitz-TR; I need ti kearn where I can shave off time, other than sleep
05:13 schestowitz-TR; sleeping too little tends to cause headache after a bit
05:13 schestowitz-TR; and the only way to make them go away is make up the hours
05:14 Techrights-sec; nice
05:14 Techrights-sec; sleep and exercise cannot be skimped on, food sometimes depending on the balance
05:14 schestowitz-TR; food is not the issue and we still find good prices
05:14 schestowitz-TR; that might come in handy is we halve our working hours
05:14 schestowitz-TR; *if
05:24 Techrights-sec; ack
05:24 Techrights-sec; should the Misinformation/Disinformation heading become
05:24 Techrights-sec; Misinformation/Disinformation/Propaganda ?
05:24 schestowitz-TR; I think that would overlap "Astro>Turf
05:25 Techrights-sec; ok, should Propaganda be explicitly in Astroturf ? there is kind of a grey area
05:25 Techrights-sec; between the astroturf and disinformation some stuff falls into both
05:25 Techrights-sec; it's been a growing problem for some weeks
05:26 schestowitz-TR; Maybe we should refactor these and make more categs
05:26 schestowitz-TR; like misinformation
05:26 schestowitz-TR; being separate from prpopagnada/disinof
05:26 schestowitz-TR; and politics being its own categ
05:27 Techrights-sec; ok
05:28 schestowitz-TR; one area of improvement, which I don;t think would affect any existing code, is dynamic insec at
05:28 schestowitz-TR; the top for html, it still uses an old static one
05:28 schestowitz-TR; in lagrance it can have bookmarks for the page, based on the headings
05:29 Techrights-sec; yes the head can be changed. So an index with internal links would be helpful?
05:30 schestowitz-TR; currently it has in it categs that used to be always occupied, but it was speculative
05:30 schestowitz-TR; around 2008
05:31 Techrights-sec; Oh, perhaps it could be an index generated based on which categories actually
05:31 Techrights-sec; have content?
05:33 schestowitz-TR; yes, but I never went as far as implementing thisa
05:33 schestowitz-TR; and until years ago the background still says "boycott novell" in dimmed colours
05:33 schestowitz-TR; some sites tried to imitate these daily links
05:33 schestowitz-TR; before realising it was too much work to maintain on a daily basis
05:33 schestowitz-TR; for us it's part of the frowl looking for topic to cover
05:35 Techrights-sec; yes
05:37 schestowitz-TR; it also does, in general, makes you a better informed citizen
05:38 schestowitz-TR; which can help you avoid many perils in life
05:38 schestowitz-TR; (rianne watches "too much" gulagtube... mostly harmful channels... but the
05:38 schestowitz-TR; "recommended" over time steer her towards clickbair utter junk)
05:38 schestowitz-TR; *harmless I meant
05:38 schestowitz-TR; not harmful
05:38 schestowitz-TR; gulagtube steers her towards the harmful ones
05:38 Techrights-sec; yes youtube pushes constantly, there is always a risk of getting warn down
05:38 Techrights-sec; I use it too much (meaning still even at all) but nearly 100% of the time
05:38 Techrights-sec; it is when following a specific external link to a specific video decided
05:38 Techrights-sec; in advance
05:40 schestowitz-TR; I have to lookm away or almost shuit my eyes if I enter the front page to enter some search phrase
05:40 schestowitz-TR; this means their interface is neither useful nor healthy
05:40 schestowitz-TR; twitter is a lot like this too
05:40 schestowitz-TR; "I come here ONLY to do X"
05:40 schestowitz-TR; "stop messing with my head"
05:40 Techrights-sec; yes I don't look at twitter at all
05:40 Techrights-sec; if it is like youtube it is hard to avoid seeing the thumbnails for the
05:40 Techrights-sec; "recommendations"
05:42 schestowitz-TR; in twitter and gulagtube you need to place the browser window about 300pixels to the outside of the raster
05:42 schestowitz-TR; depending on screen resolution as they have a "fluid" design
05:42 schestowitz-TR; so it's not even predictable
05:42 schestowitz-TR; in old rekonq I wrote some rules to just eliminate those sections
05:42 schestowitz-TR; but browsers and sites keep changing
05:45 schestowitz-TR; you know they go too far where you have the digital equiv of "what did I come to the kitchen for??"
05:46 Techrights-sec; it is that way on purpose. when that happens I close the tab to avoid
05:46 Techrights-sec; playing into their trap
05:47 schestowitz-TR; invidious reproduced a little bit of this behavious (sidebar, front page)
05:47 schestowitz-TR; but it's free software
05:47 schestowitz-TR; though I did not see instances thst change this default behaviour
05:52 Techrights-sec; yes
05:52 Techrights-sec; I think I see a way to do the Table of Contents
05:52 Techrights-sec; It would use an id attribute in each heading and then harvest those from
05:52 Techrights-sec; the non-empty nodes
05:54 schestowitz-TR; that would be an improvement
05:54 schestowitz-TR; iirc, in gemtext the section with these gets lumped into the main text
05:54 schestowitz-TR; an even super-duper version will also count <li> under a section, somehow, then add a number in
05:54 schestowitz-TR; brackets
05:58 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "As enforced by these corporate apparatchiks of Managerialism, university academics are obliged to compete by means of publishing in the so-called top journals, and to stockpile (quantity over quality) ever greater numbers of publications than their peers." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/academentia-and-managerialism/ | Source: Counter Punch
05:58 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Academentia and Managerialism - CounterPunch.org
05:59 schestowitz-TR; IME, many publish the same crap over and over again
06:00 schestowitz-TR; with small tweaks of newer bits tucked in
06:00 schestowitz-TR; to game the system
06:00 schestowitz-TR; publcation and research are not the same thing
06:00 schestowitz-TR; it's like assessing a workout based on number of reps
06:00 schestowitz-TR; or a relationship based on total income
06:01 schestowitz-TR; (few people even bother readon these papers in full, lecturing means greater audience than
06:01 schestowitz-TR; some paper with 100 views of the abstract and 10 views of the actual paper, which month later is
06:01 schestowitz-TR; "old")
06:02 Techrights-sec; looking
06:03 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather do NOC than academia
06:03 schestowitz-TR; I used to do both in tandem
06:03 schestowitz-TR; one was vastly easier
06:03 Techrights-sec; yes there are few decent ones mostly just filler
06:04 schestowitz-TR; what I do not like is, if they ask me to do project work and programming for ther salary of NOX
06:04 schestowitz-TR; that's what we thought would happen
06:04 schestowitz-TR; and so we decided to leave
06:04 schestowitz-TR; but not it is negotable
06:04 schestowitz-TR; *now
06:09 Techrights-sec; project work is another price category
06:11 schestowitz-TR; but wait :-)
06:11 schestowitz-TR; it's also weekend/overnight
06:11 schestowitz-TR; while there is potential for distraction like alerts or calls
06:11 schestowitz-TR; to me, noc means noc
06:11 schestowitz-TR; you want projects/coding?
06:11 schestowitz-TR; send me another contract
06:11 schestowitz-TR; I am being to be "on-call" and write a short report and triage things
06:11 schestowitz-TR; sometimes invetigate or intervene
06:12 Techrights-sec; yep
06:12 schestowitz-TR; by intervention I mean soemtimes like "restart jboss" if some alert seen and can be confirmed as true positive
06:18 Techrights-sec; ack
06:18 schestowitz-TR; "if you are so smart, how come your salary is like this?"
06:18 schestowitz-TR; -Person who works 60-70 hours a week, grilling a person who carely works 6 a week
06:21 Techrights-sec; ack
06:21 Techrights-sec; it's a common misperception
06:22 schestowitz-TR; (I am referring to siblings here)
06:22 schestowitz-TR; (fwiw, my barely educated mother assumes people study things just for a job, i.e. for money)
06:22 schestowitz-TR; (thankfully my dad, who never went to university, is not that shallow, so I'm not on my own)
06:22 schestowitz-TR; regarding exercise, since I open up to personal things atm, lately I used he stairs a lot
06:22 schestowitz-TR; sets are sprints to uppser floor, sometimes with shotput ball at hand
06:22 schestowitz-TR; it's good cardio interval training (downstairs=interval)
06:26 schestowitz-TR; psychological life hack
06:26 schestowitz-TR; put backpack on
06:26 schestowitz-TR; make the mission to make the workout proftable
06:26 schestowitz-TR; by carrying discounts back
06:26 schestowitz-TR; then count the savings as profit
06:26 schestowitz-TR; if there is a lot to carry, and you sweat, that's "good workout"
06:26 schestowitz-TR; when we still went to the gym (we stopped around May 20 2021) we'd use the trip back home
06:26 schestowitz-TR; to hunt for food
06:26 schestowitz-TR; sometimes also discounted things for the home like a 10 pound wine rack (original was like 50 pounds)
06:26 schestowitz-TR; we bought so many things in those years and can now use the many spares for decades, or use them as gifts
06:26 schestowitz-TR; if you can save 200 a month on food, think of that as two work shifts (16 hours) you need not do
06:31 schestowitz-TR; I hope current discount rates last
06:31 schestowitz-TR; we can still find those
06:32 schestowitz-TR; but the searching has to extend further
06:32 schestowitz-TR; like casting a wider net for the same "catch"
06:32 schestowitz-TR; igf you save 1000-2000 a year, just by shopping "smarter", then means less labour is required
06:32 schestowitz-TR; labour => capital => "stored labour" (desposits)
06:32 schestowitz-TR; spendings/income ratio= pace of desposits
06:32 schestowitz-TR; the goal is not to overdo them, like falling into the "game" people shame you into
06:32 schestowitz-TR; which is likely harder - LOL - if you don't know how to access social control media inc. GulagTube
06:32 schestowitz-TR; GulagTube became so bad that even without the web interface you would get far too many ads
06:32 schestowitz-TR; for now, librewold zaps them all (I think)
06:32 schestowitz-TR; better ask rianne, I typically just use yewtu.be
06:33 Techrights-sec; yes
06:38 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> Pedophilia is a real issue. No need to make it a partisan issue though. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/gop-pedophilia-smear-incitement/ | Source: The Nation
06:38 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | The GOP's Pedophilia Smears Are An Incitement to Violence | The Nation
06:38 schestowitz-TR; Climate change => politicised
06:38 schestowitz-TR; Undoing unwanted conception => politicised
06:38 schestowitz-TR; what next?
06:41 Techrights-sec; everything is politicized,
06:41 Techrights-sec; the election committee which made illegal deals with Iran to bring the world
06:41 Techrights-sec; the Reagan administration turned that aspect of health care into a political
06:41 Techrights-sec; footbal
06:41 Techrights-sec; football
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06:45 schestowitz-TR; speaking of which, this weekend "our team" (200m from us) can secure its season win
06:45 schestowitz-TR; cementing the lead
06:46 schestowitz-TR; we'll cycle past the stadium, later
06:46 schestowitz-TR; aftter rianne finishes gardening
06:46 schestowitz-TR; cultivating the soil for the neighbours' cats
06:46 schestowitz-TR; to poo in
06:46 schestowitz-TR; "our team" is currently tanked 2ns in the world
06:46 schestowitz-TR; *ranked
06:46 schestowitz-TR; after bayern munich
06:46 schestowitz-TR; when we moved here it was barely in top 10
06:46 schestowitz-TR; but the oil tycoons from UAE sank lots of money into it
06:46 schestowitz-TR; same way KSA does now with NUFC
06:46 schestowitz-TR; [05:56] <techrights-news> KSA sportswashing... and now buying Twitter via MusKSA https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/12/
06:46 schestowitz-TR; greg-norman-saudi-arabias-sportswashing-emissary/ | Source: Counter Punch
06:46 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-May 12, 2022 - CounterPunch.org
06:46 Techrights-sec; KSA appears to be on a reputation laundering mission, and getting too much
06:46 Techrights-sec; complicity in covering up past and present crimes
06:51 schestowitz-TR; that appeals to the masses who worship money, no matter how it's made and what follows it
06:51 schestowitz-TR; like war and stuf
06:51 schestowitz-TR; you cannot deny it, sportwashing works
06:51 schestowitz-TR; and places/businesses that get this money do benefit
06:51 schestowitz-TR; but the problem is, it perpetuates a cycle
06:51 schestowitz-TR; where many are in fact the losers
06:51 schestowitz-TR; currently we try to lower the bills
06:51 schestowitz-TR; esp. energy
06:51 schestowitz-TR; only exception is PCs, but they are all laptops with savings (modes) turned on
06:51 Techrights-sec; many worship only money
06:51 schestowitz-TR; 8 working 24/7, mine provide enough light so the bulbs are rarely needed
06:51 schestowitz-TR; and in winter some heat too is produced if I can seal off a room and then body heat too factors in
06:51 schestowitz-TR; in winter I might go in the same room as rianne as heat is easier to conserve this way
06:51 schestowitz-TR; it took me less than one houir to move everything here, I clocked it ntentionally
06:53 schestowitz-TR; people who worship ONLY money (or mostly money) are playing a stupid sport
06:53 schestowitz-TR; and later in life they realise that you cannot bring that money with you to "heaven"
06:53 schestowitz-TR; nor can you buy youth or health with it
06:53 schestowitz-TR; doing your hobbies when you are 67 is dumb
06:53 schestowitz-TR; some can barely walk around in places abroad
06:54 schestowitz-TR; my mom already struggles in flights due to her knees
06:54 Techrights-sec; not so much a sport as LARPing
06:54 Techrights-sec; https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-larping-live-action-role-playing-steampunk-aurum-larp-2018-10
06:54 Techrights-sec; shared fantasy /delusion
06:54 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.businessinsider.com | What Is LARPing (Live Action Role Playing)?
06:55 schestowitz-TR; nice analogy
06:55 schestowitz-TR; I like the saying (and show) we have here, "Only Fools and Horses"
06:55 schestowitz-TR; (I guess you know what follows
06:58 schestowitz-TR; New: "As to why I haven't left yet? Because it seems this Agile movement has invaded everywhere and things would be more of the same elsewhere. At least here, I'm not forced to use Windows [4]." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/05/12.1"
06:59 Techrights-sec; yep
06:59 Techrights-sec; btw check the new merged links for today, it has an automatically generated
06:59 Techrights-sec; table of contents
06:59 Techrights-sec; if that is the way it should be then next step will be to get that into the
06:59 Techrights-sec; work flow
06:59 Techrights-sec; ack
07:02 schestowitz-TR; a) there are ways to contribute to society other than jobs
07:02 schestowitz-TR; (some jobs are BS). Good banks, activism...
07:02 schestowitz-TR; b) I will check the table of contents in a moment, it'll show up in tmux soon
07:02 schestowitz-TR; c) something I forgot while typing a and b, but it wasn't important anyway
07:02 schestowitz-TR; I akm chasing daily linkaa atm with gemini on the side
07:02 schestowitz-TR; matey is very active in the main channel and is on topic
07:02 Techrights-sec; that's great news about IRC
07:03 schestowitz-TR; irc's problem is not the loss of time
07:03 schestowitz-TR; but the loss of focus
07:03 schestowitz-TR; and why I muted dfc
07:03 schestowitz-TR; he's the equivalent of social control media GUIs (web UIs)
07:06 schestowitz-TR; ot-ish: yesterday's meeting was using the self-serving lies about the health of the company
07:06 schestowitz-TR; but you could sense they tried hard to keep everyone onboard (not all companies are like that)
07:06 schestowitz-TR; maybe because the external HR agency cautioned them about cost of compensation
07:06 schestowitz-TR; but either way, this is the first such meeting in 3 years
07:06 schestowitz-TR; and now without physical office they cannot waste our time on train journeys
07:10 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I were 110 mins on call, spent similar length of time discussing outcome
07:10 schestowitz-TR; reduction of hours likely the way forward, but to keep pension and employement record, plus
07:10 schestowitz-TR; reduction of tax deduction, both of us to stay onboard
07:10 schestowitz-TR; at reduced capacity
07:10 schestowitz-TR; which is something we thought about doing years ago anyway
07:10 schestowitz-TR; whhen I started in the company 11+ years ago I covered only Sat and Sun
07:11 Techrights-sec; TOC generation is now integrated into the work flow
07:20 schestowitz-TR; excellent!
07:20 schestowitz-TR; I might soon work towards getting the publication patterns off wordpress
07:20 schestowitz-TR; at least partly
07:20 schestowitz-TR; the CMS treadmill "innovation" (so-called) means higher technical debt
07:20 schestowitz-TR; techdirt imprisoned itself in wordpressDOTCOM
07:20 schestowitz-TR; the bulletins, ipfs, gemini and others are a stepping stone towards where we want to be
07:20 schestowitz-TR; I tried gnunet but it's alphaware at this point
07:20 schestowitz-TR; with gemini, the site is just tar -opt [direction], untar /tar -xf directory, then add demon of choice
07:20 schestowitz-TR; like vget in openbsd, which is just hundreds of LOCs iirc and open port
07:20 schestowitz-TR; but it does not have widepsread adoption yet and dealing with attachment is hard
07:20 schestowitz-TR; I hope that will change in due course
07:20 schestowitz-TR; I stopped making material ABOUT gemini
07:20 schestowitz-TR; Disinformation https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/meet-the-head-of-bidens-new-disinformation-governing-board/
07:20 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.thenation.com | Meet the Head of Bidens New Disinformation Governing Board | The Nation
07:20 schestowitz-TR; this is what worries me
07:20 schestowitz-TR; CAs aside, it seems like
07:20 schestowitz-TR; 1) social control media gatekeepers , e.g. "hacker" "news"
07:20 schestowitz-TR; 2) sofwtare designed to block/suppress some sites
07:20 schestowitz-TR; 3) balkanised Web, GOVERNMENT-imposed blacklists, amybe ISPs to join
07:20 schestowitz-TR; to "prtect us"
07:20 schestowitz-TR; we don't need to wait until the "showdown"
07:20 schestowitz-TR; kriakou (cia whistleblower; we used to interact online) warns that this is about shutting off
07:20 schestowitz-TR; "undesirable" voices like his
07:20 schestowitz-TR; at one point only RT would consider him "permissible"
07:20 schestowitz-TR; and CONSORTRIUM NEWS
07:20 schestowitz-TR; and now they crack down on those, too
07:20 schestowitz-TR; and those who appeared in RT have "splaining" top do
07:21 schestowitz-TR; I meant vger earlier, not vget
07:21 schestowitz-TR; it probably lacks many features
07:21 schestowitz-TR; but the complexity of those things is very low, a bit like irc pre v.3
07:22 Techrights-sec; yes it's happening on both sides of the Atlantic
07:22 Techrights-sec; however only a tiny amount of politicians even act aware of the problem
07:22 Techrights-sec; they could probably be counted on one hand, and then to make it worse,
07:22 Techrights-sec; only a subset ofthose is activng
07:22 Techrights-sec; vger requires one bit of very specialized knowledge to get running
07:22 Techrights-sec; for those that know it, it is deads simple to set up
07:22 Techrights-sec; for those that lack the background it is a non-starter
07:24 schestowitz-TR; few remaining politicians are tech-savvy
07:24 schestowitz-TR; and some of the experts they recruit are microsofters
07:24 schestowitz-TR; seems like patrick breyer might be the exception
07:24 schestowitz-TR; but among "establishment" politicians his party is regarded a laughing stock
07:24 schestowitz-TR; (the name never helped, even as tongue-in-cheeck)
07:28 schestowitz-TR; "darknet" = something we cannot control
07:28 schestowitz-TR; "shitcoin" = also something we cannot control, but that does not make it virtuous
07:28 schestowitz-TR; "shitcoin scams in the darknet" = associating scams and crime with thge former
07:28 schestowitz-TR; where the name, "darknet", does not help either
07:28 schestowitz-TR; www = FB
07:28 schestowitz-TR; self-hosted WWW = LOL!!! YOUR SHITTTY SITE LOOKS SO 90s!!! LOL!!! And no "valid" cert...
07:28 schestowitz-TR; what about privacy??? Says the person froma a TWITTER account, running a pileshit of JS
07:28 schestowitz-TR; just to render 140 chars of shitpost
07:28 schestowitz-TR; in an account that demands 2FA with phone number an "APPS" that transmits location throughout
07:28 schestowitz-TR; the day
07:29 Techrights-sec; they're not experts only sales teams and lobbyists posing as experts
07:29 Techrights-sec; the policitians like that because it is familiar and they get campaign money
07:29 Techrights-sec; self-hosed will soon be defacto illegal; self-signed certificates have been
07:29 Techrights-sec; dropped from some libraries and modules, not just the major browsers
07:29 Techrights-sec; surveillance is one of the objectives common to both industry and government
07:31 schestowitz-TR; GOVERNMENT-FUNDED "industry"
07:31 schestowitz-TR; you saw my link from yesterday
07:31 schestowitz-TR; if the tech giants fail, the taxpayers will bail "big tech" like they do "big banks"
07:31 schestowitz-TR; if the US goes under
07:31 schestowitz-TR; China will do the same
07:31 schestowitz-TR; it is about "national interest", not "job creation"
07:31 schestowitz-TR; the high-paid workers are riding tax money and national debt
07:31 Techrights-sec; yes
07:32 schestowitz-TR; I like to use the term "doping"
07:32 schestowitz-TR; like business that net VC money
07:32 schestowitz-TR; and quickly waste that on gradeur
07:32 schestowitz-TR; like using up the harvest by Sewptember
07:32 schestowitz-TR; to thenm starve in winter
07:32 schestowitz-TR; I'd rather earn little, slowly, not buy a second-hand mercedes to make impressions
07:33 schestowitz-TR; "fighting desertification" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/un-report-warns-earth-crossroads-battle-against-global-drought-crisis
07:33 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | UN Report Warns Earth at 'Crossroads' in Battle Against Global Drought Crisis
07:35 schestowitz-TR; <techrights-news> "Russia warned Thursday that it would not hesitate to retaliate should Finland join NATO" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/12/russia-threatens-retaliatory-steps-finland-inches-closer-joining-nato | Source: Common Dreams
07:35 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.commondreams.org | Russia Threatens 'Retaliatory Steps' as Finland Inches Closer to Joining NATO
07:53 schestowitz-TR; just noticed pi's nginx served over 6k pages yesterday
07:53 schestowitz-TR; we have another pi available, same OS, could do HA at home although both rely on same ISP
08:08 schestowitz-TR; OK, I've just opened the "merged" revised file
08:08 schestowitz-TR; very well done
08:08 schestowitz-TR; I will integrate this into my workflow
08:08 schestowitz-TR; I might have to change timeline.sh a tad bit
08:08 schestowitz-TR; then I will check what it looks like in gemtext
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08:15 Techrights-sec; thanks
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08:55 Techrights-sec; context?
08:57 schestowitz; "
08:57 schestowitz; Links 11/05/2022: KDE Gear 22.04.1 and EuroLinux 8.6
08:57 schestowitz; Posted in News Roundup at 8:42 am by Dr. Roy SchestowitzContentsGNU/LinuxDistributionsDevices/EmbeddedFree Software/Open SourceLeftovers
08:57 schestowitz; "
09:08 Techrights-sec; gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/12/eurolinux-8-6/
09:08 Techrights-sec; checkcing
09:10 schestowitz-TR; it is just that I am guessing thiss line is about to become a lot longer
09:10 schestowitz-TR; it would be good for gemini when all gemini articles are presented in a way that does not give
09:10 schestowitz-TR; the impression of afterhought or second-class citizenry
09:10 schestowitz-TR; I am guilty of that sometimes, e.g. with memes, but I started including headlines too and author names
09:10 schestowitz-TR; from screenshots
09:10 Techrights-sec; yes so it should be removed since Gemiini does not have internal links
09:11 schestowitz-TR; That looks very nice in largance though, it shows full index for the page on the sidebar and clicking takes you to the rig
09:11 schestowitz-TR; ht section
09:11 schestowitz-TR; better experience than in "modern" Web browsers
09:18 Techrights-sec; check git
09:18 Techrights-sec; running cron updater
09:22 schestowitz-TR; ok check the above link
09:22 Techrights-sec; ok check the above link
09:23 schestowitz-TR; great, this also fixed that for other posts where the categories did not fit in and lacked spaces
09:23 schestowitz-TR; rianne is posting in tm, soon I will post daily links, I am not working on timeline.sh wokflow
09:28 Techrights-sec; np
10:02 schestowitz-TR; is there a change in another file that latches onto links-toc.pl and is not updates in git?
10:02 schestowitz-TR; *updated
10:06 Techrights-sec; yes ... checking
10:06 Techrights-sec; added to git; I thought I had it symlinked but don't since I have to customize
10:06 Techrights-sec; the paths
10:22 schestowitz-TR; I am guessing it's a fuction call somewhere and that I can add that at my end as well
10:22 schestowitz-TR; I got it working
10:25 schestowitz-TR; http://techrights.org/2022/05/13/about-bsd
10:25 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Links 13/05/2022: End of About BSD | Techrights
10:26 schestowitz-TR; I tried a bunch of things to get things after Leftovers to also show up in the TOC
10:26 schestowitz-TR; for some reason it stop after Leftovers
10:29 schestowitz; https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2F%3Fstoriesddd&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices
10:29 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-validator.w3.org | [Invalid] Markup Validation of http://techrights.org/?storiesddd - W3C Markup Validator
10:29 Techrights-sec; ok checking
10:44 schestowitz-TR; I was just about to suggest sending that
10:44 schestowitz-TR; hang on ...
10:44 schestowitz-TR; sorry, I was posting to TM, so got distracted
10:44 Techrights-sec; The input file is the 2022-05-13.html or 2022-05-13-merged.html nothing else
10:44 Techrights-sec; what file are you trying to process with links-toc.pl ?
10:44 Techrights-sec; thanks for the validator links, there are some warnings and errors I can fix
10:44 Techrights-sec; from here but not all
10:44 Techrights-sec; new template
10:44 Techrights-sec; Error Line 4408, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" already defined
10:44 Techrights-sec; Info Line 1865, Column 12: ID "ipfs-table" first defined here
10:56 schestowitz-TR; OK, #m[number] works now
10:56 schestowitz-TR; I will copy the template
10:56 schestowitz-TR; I have juts tested with past 6 daily links' input files
10:56 schestowitz-TR; sometimes it goes further than leftovers
10:56 schestowitz-TR; I wonder if invalid xhtml is what causes it to panic
10:56 schestowitz-TR; testing some more
10:56 schestowitz-TR; I am starting to suspect is gets baffled ifthe first level sections have items in them, but still testing
10:56 schestowitz-TR; yes, OK, now I am quite sure
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |-Section A
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |-news
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |-Section B
10:56 schestowitz-TR; would break and show just Section A
10:56 schestowitz-TR; if you remove "news"
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |-Section A
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |----Section B
10:56 schestowitz-TR; |----Secttion C
10:56 schestowitz-TR; then it copes OK
10:57 Techrights-sec; id attributes must be unique so if they are to be repeated then class would
10:57 Techrights-sec; be more appropriate for formatting and layout matters
10:57 Techrights-sec; great
10:58 schestowitz-TR; the ipfs validation error (and similar) are due to me "not writing enough articles"
10:58 schestowitz-TR; so the blogs's front page shows two "IRC posts" among the "latest 8" and sections are redefined with nonunqie IDs
11:11 Techrights-sec; akc
11:17 schestowitz-TR; I could just abstain from nesting iterms directly under level 1 headings
11:17 schestowitz-TR; that would not be hard
11:17 schestowitz-TR; about to set off cycling
11:17 schestowitz-TR; checking all of today's gz files
11:17 schestowitz-TR; tm, wordpress, drupal OK; only wiki gz invalid
11:17 Techrights-sec; ack
11:17 schestowitz-TR; bbl
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14:10 schestowitz-TR; back home
14:10 schestowitz-TR; saved about 40
14:10 schestowitz-TR; now properly back (desk)
14:10 schestowitz-TR; on the way back I thought,
14:10 schestowitz-TR; iunstead of #m[number]
14:10 Techrights-sec; good savings
14:10 schestowitz-TR; maybe pick random letter
14:10 schestowitz-TR; as some pages contain muliple batches of Daily Links
14:10 schestowitz-TR; hence there is a good chande if id collision
14:10 schestowitz-TR; which not only renders validation errors
14:10 schestowitz-TR; but also ambiguity as to what direction the drirector links to
14:10 schestowitz-TR; with 50+ letters the program goes away, or maybe some other thing, date would be the worst UID
14:10 schestowitz-TR; as the collusion would typically occur with batches of the same date
14:15 schestowitz-TR; btw, my "leave my job" draft can be rcycled as "going part part" to focus on the site
14:15 schestowitz-TR; pending confirmation
14:15 schestowitz-TR; we did the maths and realise there's no way to retire, not even close, far toioo early
16:07 schestowitz-TR; He's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://techrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/
16:07 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.theregister.com | Elon Musk puts Twitter deal on hold over bot count The Register
16:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Twitter is Not as Important as the Media Wants Us to Believe | Techrights
16:08 schestowitz-TR; He's not wrong. Twitter is FAKING its numbers. https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/13/musk_twitter_on_hold/ see https://tec
16:08 -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Could not resolve host: tec; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://tec )
16:08 schestowitz-TR; hrights.org/2022/04/16/twitter-lies/
16:08 schestowitz-TR; realising they pay for a pile of dying shit
16:08 schestowitz-TR; while twitter makes my account seem like suddenly impression quadrupled
16:08 schestowitz-TR; and it's obv. fake
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18:50 Techrights-sec; Twitter is a massive disinformation megaphone and contol of it is worth
18:50 Techrights-sec; a lot of money to some malevolent interests.
18:50 Techrights-sec; what kind of actions + savings can put you on a trajectory to retire in 10 years
18:50 Techrights-sec; ?
18:52 schestowitz-TR; if I worked very very hard on "money", I could retire in 10 years
18:52 schestowitz-TR; but then I'd losing 10 years trying to earn money
18:52 schestowitz-TR; so the balanced approached is better
18:52 schestowitz-TR; maybe we'll even move somewhere that is less expensive
18:52 schestowitz-TR; but that's just a thought
18:52 schestowitz-TR; the world is too vaolatile atm
18:52 Techrights-sec; ok I was wondering what timescale a balanced track would bring
18:54 schestowitz-TR; I hope MusKSA withdrsw, then Twitter collapses, for good...
18:54 schestowitz-TR; both of b/
18:54 schestowitz-TR; best of both worlds
18:54 schestowitz-TR; in a sense
18:55 schestowitz-TR; like Microsoft and Yhoo!
18:55 schestowitz-TR; They kept doing that to Yahoo!
18:55 schestowitz-TR; until Yahoo! died
18:55 schestowitz-TR; Twitter would not recover
18:55 schestowitz-TR; they already piss people off by saying Trump might come back
18:55 schestowitz-TR; and Musk got TOOOOOONNNNS of freepress over fake, hypothetical, likely impossible
18:55 schestowitz-TR; "free speech"
18:55 schestowitz-TR; so he got his money's worth already
18:55 Techrights-sec; a collapse of twitter would be to nearly everyone's advantage
18:55 schestowitz-TR; also as shareholder
18:55 schestowitz-TR; see the link (you sent?) re SEC investigation
18:56 schestowitz-TR; regarding toc code, I can refrain from adding links right after level heading 1
18:56 schestowitz-TR; as I said, choosing a random letter eahc time for id would dodge ambiguity across batches of Daily Links
18:57 Techrights-sec; I can look at that over the next few days, probably
19:03 schestowitz-TR; re Twitter, a shame think we forgot to buy popcorn
19:03 schestowitz-TR; I'd buy even without a discount
19:03 schestowitz-TR; once again, as the "Why I hate Elon Musk Video" starts,
19:03 schestowitz-TR; Musk get a ton of free publicity without spending a cent
19:03 schestowitz-TR; Trump was good at that too
19:03 schestowitz-TR; je just says Trump, free speech, a bunch of other stuff
19:03 schestowitz-TR; and did not even seal the deal, it seems...
19:04 schestowitz-TR; meanwhile Twitter Inc. puff up its chest
19:04 schestowitz-TR; pretending to be big
19:04 schestowitz-TR; like 4 times bigger
19:04 schestowitz-TR; like AOL the floppy delivery system
19:04 Techrights-sec; ack
19:20 Techrights-sec; ack
19:20 Techrights-sec; I'm not sure I understand what change is needed with the TOC code. Can you
19:20 Techrights-sec; show a URL or more details?
19:22 schestowitz-TR; sure, I need to demonstrate with two or more files
19:22 schestowitz-TR; input files
19:22 schestowitz-TR; doy uo
19:22 schestowitz-TR; I think I froze ytalk, ctrl s/q
19:22 schestowitz-TR; managed to undo that or maybe network lag
19:22 schestowitz-TR; do you need clarification about random letter
19:23 schestowitz-TR; or nested item right below level 1 heading? or both?
19:23 Techrights-sec; ctrl s will freeze, ctrl q will unfreeze
19:24 Techrights-sec; Clarification regarding which file. I suppose the Epoch could be used as part
19:24 Techrights-sec; of the id attribute, that would make it unique enough since the script would
19:24 Techrights-sec; be most unlikely to be run twice in one second
19:25 schestowitz-TR; hour of day would make it unique enough
19:25 schestowitz-TR; rianne and I are scraping the pile of news quite hard thurd and friday
19:25 schestowitz-TR; because there is almost nothing of substance
19:25 schestowitz-TR; I will provide input files
19:30 Techrights-sec; ok
19:30 Techrights-sec; tm is having trouble
19:30 Techrights-sec; or at least unreachable from here
19:30 schestowitz-TR; see your account on pi
19:30 schestowitz-TR; 1) run with links-before.html
19:30 schestowitz-TR; 2) two now the one "with-sternberg"
19:31 schestowitz-TR; 3) the diff is one link after leftovers
19:31 schestowitz-TR; 4) the output diff is TOC going to end of file vs stopping at leftovers
19:31 schestowitz-TR; I've just started ddos protector on TM
19:31 schestowitz-TR; due to a surge (load avg 48)
19:31 Techrights-sec; thanks
19:31 Techrights-sec; ok
19:31 Techrights-sec; tm is having trouble
19:31 Techrights-sec; or at least unreachable from here
19:31 Techrights-sec; checking file
19:31 Techrights-sec; ack
19:33 schestowitz-TR; ohl, oops, I put the files in MY homedor on YOUR server
19:33 Techrights-sec; not seeing any new file in the home directory
19:33 Techrights-sec; one problem might be also with the div id for the whole toc itself from
19:33 Techrights-sec; the template
19:51 Techrights-sec; ok looking
19:51 Techrights-sec; taking a guess...working...
19:51 Techrights-sec; ok check Git
19:51 Techrights-sec; the id for the toc div is also replaced
19:54 schestowitz-TR; thanks
19:54 schestowitz-TR; trying...
19:54 schestowitz-TR; the IDs are much better now, that's very good
19:54 schestowitz-TR; when I run it with sternberg the TOC ends after "leftovers"
19:54 schestowitz-TR; I checked to be sure I use the latest revision
19:58 Techrights-sec; make sure to use the latest template.html
19:58 Techrights-sec; ack
19:58 schestowitz-TR; oh, that would be it.... let me try
20:08 schestowitz-TR; iirc, we had a bunch of old template lying about
20:08 schestowitz-TR; but maybe not in git rather some some diretory somewhere?
20:08 Techrights-sec; the one in Git is the authoritative one
20:08 Techrights-sec; in the Links directory
20:19 schestowitz-TR; I don't remember where the old ones were, maybe the older git
20:19 schestowitz-TR; but either way, mine had some hacks bolted onto it
20:19 schestowitz-TR; so I filed it in git and will have to make subtle changes
20:19 schestowitz-TR; my changes are very minor, I just need to test a few times
20:24 schestowitz-TR; Ok, I found them, they are in ~/bin
20:24 schestowitz-TR; template* files
20:24 schestowitz-TR; that's how I remembered it
20:24 schestowitz-TR; I will move them to a new dir
20:24 schestowitz-TR; there are now 5 files under ~/bin/template
20:24 schestowitz-TR; if I become part timer I should tidy those bits up as well
20:26 Techrights-sec; Ok but the one all the perl scripts are based on is in Links in Git
20:26 Techrights-sec; maybe best to delete or at least tar+gzip the old ones so they are
20:26 Techrights-sec; out of the way
20:26 Techrights-sec; ack
20:28 schestowitz-TR; I've begun making my own 'deriv' of template
20:28 schestowitz-TR; because I need a lot more "slots" for howtos
20:28 schestowitz-TR; and the top part contains some 'logic' for adding the right date to title in wordpress
20:28 schestowitz-TR; those are easy, trivial edits, I won't push these back
20:28 schestowitz-TR; I have some vbery oddball workflow
20:28 schestowitz-TR; and some magic mouse buttons to help make it faster
20:28 Techrights-sec; I just add them on the fly with not-quite-macros
20:28 Techrights-sec; extra mouse buttons would help a lot I expect
20:29 schestowitz-TR; I used to do the same with xbindkeys (still there, too)
20:29 schestowitz-TR; but mouse if faster, the thumb just moves a little
20:33 schestowitz-TR; gn
20:33 schestowitz-TR; I will test here what needs testing
20:33 schestowitz-TR; this will overll improve Daily links
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